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Post by singingsparrow on May 13, 2011 11:35:18 GMT -5
I'm wondering if this can make it to #1 and keep their streak of the lead singles going to the top since "Crow". I'm doubting it. There has been notably less build-up hype surrounding this release compared to previous records. The Beastie Boys' latest couldn't even debut at #1. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Devin on May 13, 2011 11:43:41 GMT -5
I don't think anyone was expecting it to debut at #1. ???
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Post by lockebox on May 13, 2011 11:45:22 GMT -5
I was. Adele is just too hot right now, though.
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Post by singingsparrow on May 13, 2011 11:45:26 GMT -5
I don't think anyone was expecting it to debut at #1. ??? Which one? "If Not Now, When?" or "Hot Sauce Committee, Pt. 2"? Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Devin on May 13, 2011 11:52:00 GMT -5
I don't think anyone was expecting it to debut at #1. ??? Which one? "If Not Now, When?" or "Hot Sauce Committee, Pt. 2"? Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus I thought you were talking about "Make Some Noise".
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 14, 2011 10:49:04 GMT -5
I'm wondering if this can make it to #1 and keep their streak of the lead singles going to the top since "Crow". I'm doubting it. There has been notably less build-up hype surrounding this release compared to previous records. The Beastie Boys' latest couldn't even debut at #1. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus It is true that there hasn't been as much hype this time around. Weird, it's their first album in 5 years, you'd think more people would be intrigued.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 14, 2011 15:25:49 GMT -5
It's also five years in which an upcoming generation of alternative listeners didn't get to hear much Incubus. And I think the fact that this album is so much lighter is reducing enthusiasm for many fans. I love "Adolescents", but I'll admit, I haven't sought out the leak of the album yet because I'm so afraid of being disappointed with the overall album. Even if they're good songs, I know I'm going to resent that they abandoned their roots THIS much.
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Post by American Idiot on May 14, 2011 20:07:29 GMT -5
It's also five years in which an upcoming generation of alternative listeners didn't get to hear much Incubus. And I think the fact that this album is so much lighter is reducing enthusiasm for many fans. I love "Adolescents", but I'll admit, I haven't sought out the leak of the album yet because I'm so afraid of being disappointed with the overall album. Even if they're good songs, I know I'm going to resent that they abandoned their roots THIS much. It's worth listening to knowing that the material is completely different from what their sound was in the past. The songs are good for what they are, but I too would have rather them gone back to their harder roots that I listened to thirteen years ago from "S.C.I.E.N.C.E" or even "Make Yourself. I figured maybe they did it to relate to the Hot AC/Pop audience a bit more, but that is completely unlike how they were in the past. Since the Alternative format has gotten a lot lighter over the last few years, I'm pretty surprised that this isn't doing better, but then again I'm not overly impressed with it compared to older singles. There is one song called "Switch Blade" that I really like. It's a bit edger than the rest of the album and has a funky/reggae type of sound. I'm hoping that's a future single.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 14, 2011 20:10:34 GMT -5
I've heard a few songs off the album, including that one. The song in addition to "Adolescents" that jumped out to me, probably as my favorite so far, was "Thieves". I think that has also to be in the singles running.
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Post by pen on May 14, 2011 22:54:43 GMT -5
would have rather them gone back to their harder roots that I listened to thirteen years ago from "S.C.I.E.N.C.E" No offense my friend, but there was no way that was ever going to happen. But honestly, would you really want them to go back to SCIENCE? Compared to their other albums, SCIENCE is very much a debut album in every sense, and for them to return there to those metal funk roots would probably produce an album that would both be not nearly as interesting and not nearly as immediate as any of their latter work. Personally, if there's any album Incubus should use as their blueprint, it's Morning View.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 14, 2011 23:05:04 GMT -5
It seems like they lost their funk/metal roots with the departure of Dirk Lance. I'm fine with their current direction, but I wish they just had more traces of where they started. That's why albums like Make Yourself and Morning View would be the two albums that seem more realistic than S.C.I.E.N.C.E. as far as early records their newer music could resemble. Obviously they're different people with different taste, but it does make you wonder if they've just completely lost interest in the music they came up loving or if they just feel like they've exhausted that area creatively.
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Post by pen on May 14, 2011 23:59:59 GMT -5
I haven't heard the new album yet but I think they just wanted to make something chill.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 15, 2011 0:13:27 GMT -5
I haven't heard the new album yet but I think they just wanted to make something chill. Which is fine, and on the few songs I've heard, they've done a good job of that. I just hope at some point they feel like making a heavier album. I wouldn't want them to make a heavier one just to appease old-school fans though, cuz then it'd probably end up sucking.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on May 15, 2011 1:24:32 GMT -5
I've heard the album, and while I can't say I'm totally enamored with it, I do think it is very musically accomplished, and in a way I feel like it's their most confident and focused album since Make Yourself. They clearly poured their hearts into this record, and knew exactly what type of sound they wanted to achieve.
And let's face it, S.C.I.E.N.C.E. was made almost 15 years ago. Make Yourself was considerably less intense, and while their subsequent albums had their rockin' moments, they largely stopped being a heavy rock band after that. I think we just have to accept that the band just doesn't have the desire to make that type of music anymore. Even Light Grenades was 5 years ago, and since then several of the band members have had experiences that changed both their understanding of music and their lives in general.
For what it's worth, though, nothing jumps out at me as a hit single on this album. Right now I think "Switch Blade" and "Thieves" are actually the weakest tracks on there. The only one that's REALLY clicked with me is the title track, though I'm not sure if radio would embrace that one. I'm sure other songs could grow on me with time... I'm actually resisting the urge to listen more as I know the band and its management are unhappy about the leak.
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Post by sjn1279 on May 15, 2011 9:13:56 GMT -5
It doesn't stand out or stick as well as "Pardon Me" or "Wish You Were Here" or "Megalomaniac" or "Anna-Molly" or even "Black Heart Inertia". It just feels like a generic Incubus song, if you can call Incubus generic. This is WAY better than "Black Heart Inertia" imo. I actually liked Black Heart Inertia quite a bit. I don't find their new single good at all.
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Post by American Idiot on May 15, 2011 11:27:04 GMT -5
would have rather them gone back to their harder roots that I listened to thirteen years ago from "S.C.I.E.N.C.E" No offense my friend, but there was no way that was ever going to happen. But honestly, would you really want them to go back to SCIENCE? Compared to their other albums, SCIENCE is very much a debut album in every sense, and for them to return there to those metal funk roots would probably produce an album that would both be not nearly as interesting and not nearly as immediate as any of their latter work. Personally, if there's any album Incubus should use as their blueprint, it's Morning View. Oh yeah, I knew they never would. An album like "S.C.I.E.N.C.E." wouldn't have pulled in any success at all with the way music is now one bit. I was really expecting this album to be like "Light Grenades Part II" I just personally enjoyed their earlier material much more than their stuff over the past five to ten years or so.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 15, 2011 12:08:43 GMT -5
This is WAY better than "Black Heart Inertia" imo. I actually liked Black Heart Inertia quite a bit. I don't find their new single good at all. Really? I think this single is much more enjoyable than "Black Heart Inertia." Also, how does S.C.I.E.N.C.E. sound like? Never listened to the album.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 15, 2011 15:30:39 GMT -5
^Funk-metal. :) "Summer Romance" is a pretty song (and a very cool one at that). But songs like "Deep Inside", "Redefine", "A Certain Shade Of Green", "Idiot Box", and "New Skin" are a slightly funkier and heavier hint of the heavier album tracks and "Pardon Me" on Make Yourself.
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Post by rockmaniac on May 17, 2011 18:48:30 GMT -5
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on May 17, 2011 21:31:24 GMT -5
I've tried and tried, but I still can't get into this song yet. I have a bad feeling about the CD this summer.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 18, 2011 20:34:09 GMT -5
I hope they can still open with strong numbers once the album drops.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on May 19, 2011 1:12:46 GMT -5
I do too. Maybe they can get a stronger single out before then.
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Post by American Idiot on May 19, 2011 9:11:35 GMT -5
I don't think there's really any choices on the album that will grab everyone's attention and convince them to go out and buy it unfortunately. At least to us rock fans. Like I said, I like the album, but it's very unlike every other release they've had before. I really think they should be marketing especially the AAA format. Some of these tracks I believe would do very well there.
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Post by rockmaniac on May 23, 2011 10:12:38 GMT -5
any follow-up ideas? I'd go with Promises, Promises
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 23, 2011 12:56:41 GMT -5
You're already trying to predict a follow up? It's only been like 2 months since the single was released.
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Post by Devin on May 23, 2011 12:57:42 GMT -5
Is this really done already?
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Post by Walking Contradiction on May 23, 2011 13:14:06 GMT -5
I'm pretty surprised both this and "Make Some Noise" are already on their way out. I was expecting pretty fast rises and falls for both, but figured they'd at least peak in the top 5. I guess Incubus and the Beasties aren't in the same state of popularity as Linkin Park, who were able to take a song like "The Catalyst" to #1.
As for a second single... I say they just go ahead and release the title track. It wouldn't be a typical single from them, but it's powerful and attention-grabbing, and at least has tempo and a hook of sorts. Plus it's really as Alternative-friendly as anything else on the album, aside from maybe "Switchblade" and "Thieves", both of which I really don't like.
Really, no matter what they do, I expect this era to be a flop at radio.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 23, 2011 13:31:13 GMT -5
I don't think it's done at Alternative just yet. It only has a -4 bullet, definitely could pick back up.
On Active, however, looks like it's dropping fast. :(
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Post by lockebox on May 27, 2011 7:57:40 GMT -5
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Post by calichaos on May 28, 2011 22:47:23 GMT -5
has the song peaked yet? I love this song it was mos def a grower =] i will be getting the album
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