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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 8:11:14 GMT -5
Its interesting seeing some of the most popular artists flop lately: Britney = Her latest album flopped by industry standards, and even TTWE had a huge struggle before taking off (maybe Judas will follow the same path?) Lady GaGa = a bunch of #1 singles on POP charts and then an under-charting Judas What is happening! ... So having the second highest album debut of the year is a flop by industry standards??? TTWE took off right away with a 2000 bullet, and didn't fall below 1000 if I remember correctly... And a #15 is hardly a "flop", not the best but still...
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Post by Hefty Hanna on May 10, 2011 8:13:19 GMT -5
Its interesting seeing some of the most popular artists flop lately: Britney = Her latest album flopped by industry standards, and even TTWE had a huge struggle before taking off (maybe Judas will follow the same path?) Lady GaGa = a bunch of #1 singles on POP charts and then an under-charting Judas What is happening! ... So having the second highest album debut of the year is a flop by industry standards??? TTWE took off right away with a 2000 bullet, and didn't fall below 1000 if I remember correctly... And a #15 is hardly a "flop", not the best but still... I agree that Britney is definitely not flopping. Talk about reaching. The album could have opened up to better numbers though, no questioning that. Oh, and TTWE's bullet has definitely dipped below 1000. It's below that right now. #15 with a four week long chart run is a flop.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on May 10, 2011 8:14:05 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me why EOG board is locked? Heard this on the radio this morning ond it is very radio friendly. Vintage Gaga. DJ said it was getting a lot of requests.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on May 10, 2011 8:15:11 GMT -5
Its interesting seeing some of the most popular artists flop lately: Britney = Her latest album flopped by industry standards, and even TTWE had a huge struggle before taking off (maybe Judas will follow the same path?) Lady GaGa = a bunch of #1 singles on POP charts and then an under-charting Judas What is happening! ... So having the second highest album debut of the year is a flop by industry standards??? TTWE took off right away with a 2000 bullet, and didn't fall below 1000 if I remember correctly... And a #15 is hardly a "flop", not the best but still... Rather. Britney's album was released in March, had a strong debut (although not among her best) and seems to have legs. TTWE has had a pretty standard run for a well-known artist. High debut due to sales, bit of a dip, then a rise and peak. Judas is under performing (although it's run isn't over), but BTW was massive, has longevity and TEOG has received a great reception. The album will debut with strong numbers. So err, yeah. Laters.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 10, 2011 8:17:19 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me why EOG board is locked? Heard this on the radio this morning ond it is very radio friendly. Vintage Gaga. DJ said it was getting a lot of requests. Because it's not officially a single yet. There is a thread for it in the 'Non-Singles/Album Tracks' forum a bit lower down.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 8:19:17 GMT -5
My question is: where were all these fans of Judas three weeks ago? I was here I don't think it's fair to compare it to Run The World and Not Myself Tonight though :/
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Post by Lozzy on May 10, 2011 8:38:49 GMT -5
My question is: where were all these fans of Judas three weeks ago? I was here Something looks odd about that smiley. I don't think it's fair to compare it to Run The World and Not Myself Tonight though :/ NMT peaked at #14 iirc.
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Post by Maximillian on May 10, 2011 8:43:05 GMT -5
... So having the second highest album debut of the year is a flop by industry standards??? TTWE took off right away with a 2000 bullet, and didn't fall below 1000 if I remember correctly... And a #15 is hardly a "flop", not the best but still... I agree that Britney is definitely not flopping. Talk about reaching. The album could have opened up to better numbers though, no questioning that. Oh, and TTWE's bullet has definitely dipped below 1000. It's below that right now. #15 with a four week long chart run is a flop. Not reaching, industry standards for her and the money put into it, it debuted low (most likely because the album was leaked so early). First week debut was expected in the 350-450 range, and it debutes with 276k and then a 73% drop to 75k week two. Yeah its done ok since then, and any other artist would kill for those numbers, but its interesting to see the music public not rally around big artists this time around like they have in the past. As for TTWE stalled for a while back and looked on the verge of peaking, and if im not mistaken has a negative update or two around that time (dont quote me on that part), several weeks back. Its had a great turn around since she started promo. I dont want to call Judas totally dead yet, but it looks like its been buried. Like I said, her era has been handled a mess.
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Post by dehaviland on May 10, 2011 8:52:21 GMT -5
Judas is DEAD & GONE. This thread can be closed and locked, lol.
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Post by Oprah on May 10, 2011 8:52:23 GMT -5
Britney isn't flopping, but her performance this era has been...odd. She's getting pushed by radio like never before in her career, yet the public doesn't seem to be biting in the form of either album or single sales. HIAM's sales are particularly abysmal all things considered.
Judas flopped, there's no way around it. It's already done after just four weeks and is the follow up to eight back to back massive hits.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on May 10, 2011 8:54:05 GMT -5
Britney isn't flopping, but her performance this era has been...odd. She's getting pushed by radio like never before in her career, yet the public doesn't seem to be biting in the form of either album or single sales. HIAM's sales are particularly abysmal all things considered. Judas flopped, there's no way around it. It's already done after just four weeks and is the follow up to eight back to back massive hits. This is basically how I feel about both projects.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on May 10, 2011 8:54:31 GMT -5
Like I said, her era has been handled a mess. It hasn't at all ???
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Post by Lozzy on May 10, 2011 8:57:02 GMT -5
Bringing this info in here, but please continue 'The Edge of Glory' discussion in its own thread. It's not official, but cross-checking with the real-time updates, it looks like this song got 156 first-day spins, putting it at #36 for the single day, and sandwiching it between "Barbra Streisand" and "Don't You Wanna Stay" at #63 for the week. This should be correct, but I don't usually use the real-time pages as an official updates source; I'll check with the actual chart once I get into it tomorrow. As an indication, it has 36 spins for today so far; that being with 6.5-9.5 hours of the day, I would think it might score a debut at around #37 on Sunday. :)
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Post by Lozzy on May 10, 2011 9:00:48 GMT -5
Like I said, her era has been handled a mess. It hasn't at all ??? I agree. The only thing I don't really like and would've done differently is having 'The Edge of Glory' released today - 'Judas' did seem to be picking up a bit, especially digitally and with the help of AT40, I think that if it wasn't for TEOG it might've actually made it somewhere, but with TEOG #1 on iTunes and stealing Judas' spins, it obviously won't. I do like the promo single idea, but it did kill Judas. If I were the label I would've at least waited until next Tuesday to see what Judas is doing then - if it's doing terribly, then TEOG is out, but if it's actually picked up, then no promo single. I've said that before, anyway. But yes, the handling of this era has been pretty good altogether. :)
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Post by dehaviland on May 10, 2011 9:02:08 GMT -5
Britney isn't flopping, but her performance this era has been...odd. She's getting pushed by radio like never before in her career, yet the public doesn't seem to be biting in the form of either album or single sales. HIAM's sales are particularly abysmal all things considered.Judas flopped, there's no way around it. It's already done after just four weeks and is the follow up to eight back to back massive hits. HIAM went platinum though. ???
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Post by Black Jesus on May 10, 2011 9:02:13 GMT -5
Judas is DEAD & GONE. This thread can be closed and locked, lol. Easy there, Xtina fan! lol I don't think the NMT thread was locked for awhile afterwards
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Post by Lozzy on May 10, 2011 9:02:41 GMT -5
Britney isn't flopping, but her performance this era has been...odd. She's getting pushed by radio like never before in her career, yet the public doesn't seem to be biting in the form of either album or single sales. HIAM's sales are particularly abysmal all things considered.Judas flopped, there's no way around it. It's already done after just four weeks and is the follow up to eight back to back massive hits. HIAM went platinum though. ??? Platinum for a Hot 100 #1 & CHR #3 isn't really all that good.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on May 10, 2011 9:08:58 GMT -5
I agree. The only thing I don't really like and would've done differently is having 'The Edge of Glory' released today - 'Judas' did seem to be picking up a bit, especially digitally and with the help of AT40, I think that if it wasn't for TEOG it might've actually made it somewhere, but with TEOG #1 on iTunes and stealing Judas' spins, it obviously won't. I do like the promo single idea, but it did kill Judas. That's ridiculous. Nobody can blame TEOG for the performance of 'Judas'. TEOG wasn't the reason it lost audience (and spins, for that matter) for the past week and a half.
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Post by NeRD on May 10, 2011 9:09:11 GMT -5
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Post by nightshade on May 10, 2011 9:10:46 GMT -5
I agree. The only thing I don't really like and would've done differently is having 'The Edge of Glory' released today - 'Judas' did seem to be picking up a bit, especially digitally and with the help of AT40, I think that if it wasn't for TEOG it might've actually made it somewhere, but with TEOG #1 on iTunes and stealing Judas' spins, it obviously won't. I do like the promo single idea, but it did kill Judas. That's ridiculous. Nobody can blame TEOG for the performance of 'Judas'. TEOG wasn't the reason it lost audience (and spins, for that matter) for the past week and a half. For the past week and a half, they can't but it's finally picked up on iTunes and people are starting to warm up to it so now they can blame TEOG.
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Post by dehaviland on May 10, 2011 9:15:45 GMT -5
Judas is DEAD & GONE. This thread can be closed and locked, lol. Easy there, Xtina fan! lol I don't think the NMT thread was locked for awhile afterwards lmao. i'm sure i requested the same, especially how she was getting dragged so bad on here.
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Post by dehaviland on May 10, 2011 9:20:18 GMT -5
HIAM went platinum though. ??? Platinum for a Hot 100 #1 & CHR #3 isn't really all that good. true. idk why HIAM didn't have radio longevity, and didn't sell more. should at least be double platinum. >:(
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Post by Black Jesus on May 10, 2011 9:23:37 GMT -5
Easy there, Xtina fan! lol I don't think the NMT thread was locked for awhile afterwards lmao. i'm sure i requested the same, especially how she was getting dragged so bad on here. haha I know I felt bad and I didn't know the thread was locked...NMT was not flop-worthy IMO. But anyways...
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 10, 2011 9:24:29 GMT -5
HIAM went platinum though. ??? Platinum for a Hot 100 #1 & CHR #3 isn't really all that good. #IJUSTCAN'T
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Post by Oprah on May 10, 2011 9:42:29 GMT -5
EOG killed Judas, but Judas was dying a slow death anyway. Consider it a mercy killing.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on May 10, 2011 9:54:20 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me why EOG board is locked? Heard this on the radio this morning ond it is very radio friendly. Vintage Gaga. DJ said it was getting a lot of requests. Because it's not officially a single yet. There is a thread for it in the 'Non-Singles/Album Tracks' forum a bit lower down. thank you Zeck
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Post by KMJ1 on May 10, 2011 9:58:48 GMT -5
just heard her new song. sounds barely good enough for a b side lol. wow, did this turn out to be one of the biggest musical trainwrecks of all time. never ever wouldve believed just 3 months ago.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 10, 2011 9:59:58 GMT -5
just heard her new song lol. sounds barely good enough for a b side well considering this is a thread for Judas, take that shit somewhere else
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Post by Black Jesus on May 10, 2011 10:01:51 GMT -5
wow, did this turn out to be one of the biggest musical trainwrecks of all time. Yeah see I have a problem with people like you who just come into threads and instigate/be ignorant to start problems. I'm not even going to go into the success of BTW, but Judas: #10 on Hot 100 #15 on Pop Radio shot to #1 on iTunes within a view hours 13 million YouTube video views in a few days. Bitch, please.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 10:06:02 GMT -5
just heard her new song lol. sounds barely good enough for a b side well considering this is a thread for Judas, take that s**t somewhere else defensive, much?? In terms of Gaga, Judas is a pretty major disappointment and can guarantee the record company is really scrambling behind the scenes. Radio clearly has said nuh uh to this song.
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