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Post by Black Jesus on May 10, 2011 10:07:59 GMT -5
well considering this is a thread for Judas, take that s**t somewhere else defensive, much?? In terms of Gaga, Judas is a pretty major disappointment and can guarantee the record company is really scrambling behind the scenes. Radio clearly has said nuh uh to this song. When you post in the wrong thread I get really defensive. And then he edited his post to add much nicer things Monsters gotta be ready to take the heat though. We're gonna get bashed like crazy cause of this under-performing song. So many people have been killing to see this day come.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 10:14:32 GMT -5
defensive, much?? In terms of Gaga, Judas is a pretty major disappointment and can guarantee the record company is really scrambling behind the scenes. Radio clearly has said nuh uh to this song. When you post in the wrong thread I get really defensive. And then he edited his post to add much nicer things Monsters gotta be ready to take the heat though. We're gonna get bashed like crazy cause of this under-performing song. So many people have been killing to see this day come. Well, in terms of other artists, I'd probably not call Judas a flop, but in terms of gaga, it's a flop. Yes you guys are gonna take shit for it, but good to get one out of the way. every artist has them, and it doesn't mean the end of her career or anything, so just roll with it and let the haters hate. That said, I love gaga, but not feeling the new song either.
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Post by nightshade on May 10, 2011 10:24:03 GMT -5
So many people have been killing to see this day come. Truth. No other artist could get away with BTW or Judas. I'm very curious to see how the album sales do.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 10:38:36 GMT -5
I've already played this more than Born This Way
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 10:51:54 GMT -5
There's really no point in trying to make this seem like it wasn't a dud...yes we all know about the top 10 peak (cue "Never Again/Russian Mullet") but we all know for any major pop artist nowadays (Gaga, Beyonce, Britney, Rihanna, Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson, Ke$ha) that if a song peaks at #15 on mediabase and with 35 million, it's a dud.
Popstars can and have easily bounced back from disappointments so there's no need to lament or get all defensive about it.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 10, 2011 11:17:18 GMT -5
When you post in the wrong thread I get really defensive. And then he edited his post to add much nicer things Monsters gotta be ready to take the heat though. We're gonna get bashed like crazy cause of this under-performing song. So many people have been killing to see this day come. Well, in terms of other artists, I'd probably not call Judas a flop, but in terms of gaga, it's a flop. Yes you guys are gonna take s**t for it, but good to get one out of the way. every artist has them, and it doesn't mean the end of her career or anything, so just roll with it and let the haters hate. That said, I love gaga, but not feeling the new song either. Actually, I agree with you that this is a flop. I am not feeling the new song at all. It's the first Gaga single that I didn't like.
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Post by David on May 10, 2011 11:32:46 GMT -5
EOG killed Judas, but Judas was dying a slow death anyway. Consider it a mercy killing. Judas was predestined for damnation. Oh wait....
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Post by Black Jesus on May 10, 2011 11:33:17 GMT -5
EOG killed Judas, but Judas was dying a slow death anyway. Consider it a mercy killing. Judas was predestined for damnation. Oh wait.... OMG haha that's kinda creepy...
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Post by blue in moonlight on May 10, 2011 11:44:10 GMT -5
Well, I guess "Judas" is officially done now. It was essentially a non-starter since it was never really given the opportunity to recover in the slightest. While I don't think it was going to smash after the lukewarm reception, I still believe it's the sort of song that would have seeped underneath people's skin and they would have grown to love it. The hook remains killer. I may be one of the few who has actually liked all of her singles and enjoy some of the BTW singles more than some of the ones from TF/TFM. Gaga may be in a bit of an awkward position. I think she clearly wants to push her sound in a more progressive direction but her audience seems divided as to whether it's willing to accept anything other than pop confections from her that go down easy. I'm very anxious to see how this era unfolds. Will it be Like A Prayer-esque (less commercial success and slight controversy but critically lauded and, subsequently, considered a definitive)? Or could it be her Erotica?
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 10, 2011 11:45:11 GMT -5
At least we got a good video out of it. Hopefully they also learned a bit from this under-performing.
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Post by David on May 10, 2011 11:50:12 GMT -5
I wonder if Judas could do what Not Afraid did in a way? I remember NA reached a higher peak while LTWYL was peaking as well. GaGa could easily have 2 singles on radio at once as long as they sounded different enough, but I just don't know if radio would get behind it if one of them was Judas. (Which hasn't been getting very good feedback)
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on May 10, 2011 11:54:43 GMT -5
Well, I guess "Judas" is officially done now. It was essentially a non-starter since it was never really given the opportunity to recover in the slightest. While I don't think it was going to smash after the lukewarm reception, I still believe it's the sort of song that would have seeped underneath people's skin and they would have grown to love it. The hook remains killer. I may be one of the few who has actually liked all of her singles and enjoy some of the BTW singles more than some of the ones from TF/TFM. Gaga may be in a bit of an awkward position. I think she clearly wants to push her sound in a more progressive direction but her audience seems divided as to whether it's willing to accept anything other than pop confections from her that go down easy. All of this.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 14:02:24 GMT -5
lol @ the local station [which disregarded/avoided Judas] "And here's Lady Gaga's second single after Born This Way and the buzz song Judas--EDGE OF GLORY!"
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Post by Lockheart on May 10, 2011 14:06:00 GMT -5
I'm kinda bummed though this looks to be done. The beat to this song is just SICK!! This is her her best single since Bad Romance imo. Still, it's a top ten hit for an underperforming single
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Post by August on May 10, 2011 14:15:17 GMT -5
MTV Hits is playing a block of all her videos right now...just played Judas, currently on Lovegame.
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Post by Rurry on May 10, 2011 14:15:57 GMT -5
At first I was rooting for this to be a hit because it's a good song but I don't even care now. Edge of Glory is SO much better, so I want that to take over.
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Post by slayZ on May 10, 2011 14:58:50 GMT -5
i love this song so much. can't believe it underperformed. :'(
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Post by nightshade on May 10, 2011 15:00:53 GMT -5
lol @ the local station [which disregarded/avoided Judas] "And here's Lady Gaga's second single after Born This Way and the buzz song Judas--EDGE OF GLORY!" Which station? They're GaGa stans. :'(
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Post by David on May 10, 2011 15:30:08 GMT -5
lol @ the local station [which disregarded/avoided Judas] "And here's Lady Gaga's second single after Born This Way and the buzz song Judas--EDGE OF GLORY!" Buzz single? lol Awesome.
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Post by The Gypsy on May 10, 2011 15:53:25 GMT -5
Alright here's the plan. Maybe if we don't mention this single, we can pretend that TEOG is the second single and this was just a promo! :o lol @ the local station [which disregarded/avoided Judas] "And here's Lady Gaga's second single after Born This Way and the buzz song Judas--EDGE OF GLORY!" Oh, it looks like SOMEBODY'S idea is catching on.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 10, 2011 16:42:12 GMT -5
1 week on VEVO: 15,545,255 views :'(
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Post by george1166 on May 10, 2011 17:15:22 GMT -5
So, this is just considered a buzz single now?
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on May 10, 2011 17:18:01 GMT -5
i love this song so much. can't believe it underperformed. :'( I'm gutted, it's far and away my favourite of the three.
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Post by hitseeker. on May 10, 2011 17:18:22 GMT -5
It baffles me how this is underperfoming on radio, c'mon! :'(
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 10, 2011 17:23:58 GMT -5
So, this is just considered a buzz single now? I don't like how people think they can backtrack and call official singles that flopped "buzz singles". We might as well face it, this song exploded and then essentially imploded on itself. It flopped. If we, as gaga fans, can accept that and admit it, we can move on. No, it wasn't a buzz single. It was a full fledged second single that spiraled out of control into flop land just as the amazing video was being released. Unprecedented but it shan't be too detrimental for the next single(s).
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 17:24:52 GMT -5
I'm a bit disappointed about them pulling the plug on this. The only positive thing about this underperforming was that it was one of her weaker singles and it's being replaced by a stronger song (The Edge of Glory).
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 17:26:21 GMT -5
lol @ the local station [which disregarded/avoided Judas] "And here's Lady Gaga's second single after Born This Way and the buzz song Judas--EDGE OF GLORY!" Which station? They're GaGa stans. :'( WRWM Here's their current spins for this week for Judas & BTW: 10 15 LADY GAGA Born This Way 54 74 -20 0.0876 34 41 LADY GAGA Judas 9 12 -3 0.0101 They haven't been really Judas friendly at all but they've spammed BTW since the beginning. EoG kind of fits into their style anyway I guess. --remembering to quote would be nice lol opps
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 17:27:36 GMT -5
Shame that this song kinda stalled...and is the lowest charting single of GaGa's career. It's so good and catchy! All 3 singles have been solid imo....
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Post by Taylor. on May 10, 2011 17:31:09 GMT -5
So, this is just considered a buzz single now? No. They sent it for adds and released a video. It was the second single.
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Post by Kii on May 10, 2011 17:39:33 GMT -5
TEOG really isn't stronger than this to me, btw. Though it's much more digestible, it's incredibly boring to me and lacks any sort of hook she is famous for. It doesn't even sound like a GaGa song. ??? Sounds more like something kelly or pink would have put out 3 years ago, coincidentally the chorus uses similar chord progressions to both MLWSWY and So What.
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