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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 13:10:28 GMT -5
After 281 listens I still cannot figure out what the hell she's saying in the verses
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Post by Ace on May 11, 2011 14:05:03 GMT -5
TLC's "Damaged" and Janet Jackson's "Just a Little While" both peaked at #19 after only 4 weeks. Both amazing songs too.
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Post by Maximillian on May 11, 2011 14:29:31 GMT -5
Lol, whether people wanna admit it or not, X-Tina is one of the most successful artists of all time world wide. So hate all you want, but nobody hated her until she had a crappy cd. #next. LOL. Yes of course she was ONE of them. Any artist who sells albums worldwide is "one of the most successful" in the world. In fact, in terms of album sales: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_worldwideMichael Jackson, the Beatles, and even the Backstreet Boys (!!!) are big winners. Celine Dion makes multiple appearances on the chart. Britney Spears is even on the list with her debut album. None of Christina's albums have come close, even cumulatively. Her popularity peaked in the mid-2000s. Since then it's been nearly nothing from her in terms of significant musical accomplishments (other than judging "The Voice"). Actually... 50 million albums WW, and only 17 million of those were in the US. So really, she is a huge WW success. Also, any artist who can say they have sold 50 million albums, is a force to be reckoned with (especially since she doesnt throw out a new CD every year like Rihanna, GaGa, Britney, and other major artists who have comparable sales). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Aguilera_discographyMoving on...
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Post by TGIF on May 11, 2011 14:32:23 GMT -5
I'm pressed at this flopping this way. :( same :(
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Post by ClevelandRox on May 11, 2011 14:38:49 GMT -5
TLC's "Damaged" and Janet Jackson's "Just a Little While" both peaked at #19 after only 4 weeks. Both amazing songs too. OMG poor Damaged. :'( I thought it did way better than that.
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Post by kilt on May 11, 2011 15:10:57 GMT -5
Judas flopping should teach Gaga's team to release singles duly and refrain from over-hyping them.
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Post by worldwide on May 11, 2011 15:22:58 GMT -5
Wow, so this is really done since TEOG has been announced as the third single. Who would've thought this would be a flop or gaga would experience a flop. In 3 months 3 singles.
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Post by Kii on May 11, 2011 15:54:04 GMT -5
Overhyped? Nah. It felt to me the lead up to this single, and with the whole leak, this single release was entirely deflated, if anything. The song was just overall too over the top for radio to want to play it as much as it should have been. Musically this is amazing but just not enough people 'got' what she was going for imo. With the
"Holy fool" "In the biblical sense, I am beyond repentance, fame hooker, prostitute wench" "Judas is the demon I cling to"
etc. lines, it's pretty easy to see how her actual message in the song becomes convoluted and people are left wondering "Erm, what exactly is she trying to say?" and I think her using religious metaphors and references STILL made people uncomfortable, no matter the message involved. At the end of the day this is still one of her stand out tracks, song and video wise, in spite of it's peak.
Releasing EOG as a single just cause of the mostly positive reception is the biggest mistake they could have made, I'm sure they already had other singles planned out, probably all of which are better than it.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 15:55:34 GMT -5
This is far and away my least favorite Gaga single and it has absolutely nothing to do with the lyrical content. I think the verses are jarring and the chorus feels like a rehash of "Bad Romance". I was bored with this song within a couple of weeks. I would not be surprised if the underperformance of this song has more to do with sonic qualities than people being offended by the lyrics.
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Post by discoloser on May 11, 2011 16:00:18 GMT -5
Marry the Night was third single, with release week of album release, if if i remember correctly. So, TEOG has replaced that.
'Hair' will remain 4th single. Unless it's reception is HORRIBLE. I think MTN will stay planned as a single, just not in the near future.
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Post by JayBoozer on May 11, 2011 16:01:05 GMT -5
This is far and away my least favorite Gaga single and it has absolutely nothing to do with the lyrical content. I think the verses are jarring and the chorus feels like a rehash of "Bad Romance". I was bored with this song within a couple of weeks. I would not be surprised if the underperformance of this song has more to do with sonic qualities than people being offended by the lyrics. You think the verses are jarring, I think they're hard-hitting in a good way. You think the chorus feels like a rehash of Bad Romance, I think its super catch and complements the verses really well. Its a very dynamic song, I just don't think most people could really catch on to it first listen or were too turned off by the lyrics (or maybe annoyed by the fact that shes always using religious motifs).
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 16:01:24 GMT -5
Marry the Night was third single, with release week of album release, if if i remember correctly. So, TEOG has replaced that. "Marry the Night" was Gaga's choice for the third single. The label (Jimmy Iovine) wanted "The Edge of Glory". After "Judas" underperformed, I think the label took the reigns.
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Post by discoloser on May 11, 2011 16:02:56 GMT -5
Ty jazzy. I was half-right LOL.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 16:03:35 GMT -5
This is far and away my least favorite Gaga single and it has absolutely nothing to do with the lyrical content. I think the verses are jarring and the chorus feels like a rehash of "Bad Romance". I was bored with this song within a couple of weeks. I would not be surprised if the underperformance of this song has more to do with sonic qualities than people being offended by the lyrics. You think the verses are jarring, I think they're hard-hitting in a good way. You think the chorus feels like a rehash of Bad Romance, I think its super catch and complements the verses really well. Its a very dynamic song, I just don't think most people could really catch on to it first listen or were too turned off by the lyrics (or maybe annoyed by the fact that shes always using religious motifs). Not really understanding your point. Obviously people have differing opinions on the song. I am just saying that I think the sonic qualities of the song were a major reason that it underperformed, and I do not think that the lyrics are the reason the song flopped especially because I can't even understand most of what she is singing in this song anyway.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 11, 2011 16:05:38 GMT -5
Unfortunately the label got it wrong. TEOG should've stayed a buzz single like Imma Be from BEP and they could've slipped it in as the last single.
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Post by slayZ on May 11, 2011 16:12:36 GMT -5
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Post by michael7627 on May 11, 2011 16:28:53 GMT -5
How is this a flop if it debuted at 10 on the Billboard 100 and is still top 20 after 4 weeks? Are you kidding me???
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How is this a flop if it debuted at 10 on the Billboard 100 and is still top 20 after 4 weeks? Are you kidding me??? Given the cold reception on radio and then the sales sliding. The upswing in sales (possibly) during the last week was only because of the video premiering. The song's going to drop like a rock, having no staying power after this.
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Post by August on May 11, 2011 16:45:15 GMT -5
Perez Hilton even stated in a video on his blog today about the the under-performance of Judas. Surprised to hear him say this because usually if Lady Gaga even takes a shit, he will point out how genius, incredible, and ground breaking it was and that it was the biggest thing worldwide.
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Post by Mike79 on May 11, 2011 16:51:11 GMT -5
This under-performed for several reasons, it's lyrical context, esp. in the verses is almost unrecognizable, meaning you couldn't really understand what GaGa is singing so you couldn't follow along and sing to it. The Judas, Juda-has part was kind of ODD, where-as in Bad Romance, the Ra-Ra-oh-la-la's are not part of the title. Who really wants to sing along to a song called Judas, the back beats and production are still epic to me, but the title and all it's lyrics are just not catchy to the overall public. I also think that she needs to stop using "GAGA" in her songs as part of the lyrics. So many factors, I really hope we have other massive upbeats on this album where you just don't have to think too much into them but sing them and enjoy them as they are, if that makes any sense. As far as The Edge of Glory, I'll post my thoughts in that thread.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 11, 2011 17:02:07 GMT -5
This is far and away my least favorite Gaga single and it has absolutely nothing to do with the lyrical content. I think the verses are jarring and the chorus feels like a rehash of "Bad Romance". I was bored with this song within a couple of weeks. I would not be surprised if the underperformance of this song has more to do with sonic qualities than people being offended by the lyrics. You think the verses are jarring, I think they're hard-hitting in a good way. You think the chorus feels like a rehash of Bad Romance, I think its super catch and complements the verses really well. Its a very dynamic song, I just don't think most people could really catch on to it first listen or were too turned off by the lyrics (or maybe annoyed by the fact that shes always using religious motifs). I actually don't think people were turned off by the lyrics. I definitely agree with jazzysoul. I feel like musically, it was too much for radio. The song is VERY in-your-face and as I've said before, I think it comes down to the "ju-dah ju-da-ah-ah" portion of the song. I can't help but wonder what people would have thought if that wasn't in there at all. I actually think something as simple as that made a huge difference. The chorus of this is catchy enough and after a few listens, the verses sound great.
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Post by August on May 11, 2011 17:02:13 GMT -5
just watched the Cannes performance. Definitely entertaining.
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Post by Mike79 on May 11, 2011 17:04:06 GMT -5
I think the Ju-dah, ju-da--ah-ah part is HORRIBLE, the verses are forgetable but the chorus and beats of this are EPIC! I love the video too! :) Poor JU-DAS! :(
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Post by AP on May 11, 2011 17:12:44 GMT -5
I love how she used a headset mic at Cannes after everyone suggested it after the Ellen performance.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 11, 2011 17:38:41 GMT -5
How is this a flop if it debuted at 10 on the Billboard 100 and is still top 20 after 4 weeks? Are you kidding me??? High debuts on the Hot 100 can be manipulated - whether or not something "flops" has nothing to do with its peak It just kind of bugs me people are so quick to call What The Hell a "flop", and it's probably gonna end up having twice the airplay of Judas, if not more
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 11, 2011 17:49:36 GMT -5
Judas is fairing better in Canada. It's #8 on the Pop airplay charts. Though I wonder what the realtime update is now.
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Post by repentyourself on May 11, 2011 18:02:00 GMT -5
That was not a good performance. I can't believe this is done. Whatever, Edge of Glory is the best single yet off the album, so hopefully that smashes. Lol, whether people wanna admit it or not, X-Tina is one of the most successful artists of all time world wide. So hate all you want, but nobody hated her until she had a crappy cd. #next. LMAO, no, she really isn't... at all...
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Post by Maximillian on May 11, 2011 19:02:32 GMT -5
Just heard EOG on the radio, sounded slightly different. Did they send out a radio edit? The intro was cut and I didnt hear the sax part. It was on WSTR Atlanta
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Post by neally on May 11, 2011 20:43:36 GMT -5
That was not a good performance. I can't believe this is done. Whatever, Edge of Glory is the best single yet off the album, so hopefully that smashes.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 11, 2011 20:46:24 GMT -5
Judas is fairing better in Canada. It's #8 on the Pop airplay charts. Though I wonder what the realtime update is now. That's awesome! Glad it went Top 10 somewhere...
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