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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 11, 2011 20:49:42 GMT -5
Also #12 on the Canadian Hot 100. Though it's weird. I've only heard it on the radio a few times. I still hear Born This Way more.
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Post by Ace on May 11, 2011 20:51:52 GMT -5
I actually don't think people were turned off by the lyrics. I definitely agree with jazzysoul. I feel like musically, it was too much for radio. The song is VERY in-your-face and as I've said before, I think it comes down to the "ju-dah ju-da-ah-ah" portion of the song. I can't help but wonder what people would have thought if that wasn't in there at all. I actually think something as simple as that made a huge difference. The chorus of this is catchy enough and after a few listens, the verses sound great. That's the only part of the song I like. I think it just comes down to Judas not being catchy. Not saying whether or not it's a good song; what I am saying is that I don't think it was catchy enough to be a radio single.
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Post by nightshade on May 11, 2011 20:52:44 GMT -5
what I am saying is that I don't think it was catchy enough to be a radio single. fucking and buried. Close this thread. There is nothing left here to discuss.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 11, 2011 20:54:36 GMT -5
We can discuss the video's 18,160,468 views :'(
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Post by Ace on May 11, 2011 21:10:31 GMT -5
what I am saying is that I don't think it was catchy enough to be a radio single. f**king and buried. Close this thread. There is nothing left here to discuss. Really? ??? But it seems like there is a discussion happening... Anyway, I've jammed to every single Gaga's put out except this one (in fact, currently jamming to EOG), and I'm certainly not offended by any perceived religious controversy...so if the sarcasm was intended to imply I'm trolling, then take it elsewhere.
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Post by nightshade on May 11, 2011 21:15:55 GMT -5
f**king and buried. Close this thread. There is nothing left here to discuss. Really? ??? But it seems like there is a discussion happening... Anyway, I've jammed to every single Gaga's put out except this one (in fact, currently jamming to EOG), and I'm certainly not offended by any perceived religious controversy...so if the sarcasm was intended to imply I'm trolling, then take it elsewhere. Yes, there may be a "discussion" but it is nothing that can't be discussed in her official album thread. JUDAS is dead. There is no sarcasm.
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Post by stanr on May 11, 2011 21:37:08 GMT -5
It happens all the time. Never Again, Russian Roulette, Deja Vu, NMTWe're talking A-listers, right? Lol, whether people wanna admit it or not, X-Tina is one of the most successful artists of all time world wide. So hate all you want, but nobody hated her until she had a crappy cd. #next.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 21:50:43 GMT -5
Its unfortunate that this panned out this way but I think the Ah ah ah ah really threw people off. And it was a lil crazy compared to her previous singles. Anyway, whoever her dancer is behind her to her right is sexy. haha
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Post by B. army on May 11, 2011 22:10:13 GMT -5
I liked this song and it is catchy after a couple listens. I thought it could have hit top top 10 with all the promo.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 11, 2011 22:12:11 GMT -5
Really? ??? But it seems like there is a discussion happening... Anyway, I've jammed to every single Gaga's put out except this one (in fact, currently jamming to EOG), and I'm certainly not offended by any perceived religious controversy...so if the sarcasm was intended to imply I'm trolling, then take it elsewhere. Yes, there may be a "discussion" but it is nothing that can't be discussed in her official album thread. JUDAS is dead. There is no sarcasm. This thread won't die, like how the HIAM thread did not die until FOREVER after it peaked.
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Post by The Gypsy on May 11, 2011 22:37:53 GMT -5
Yes, there may be a "discussion" but it is nothing that can't be discussed in her official album thread. JUDAS is dead. There is no sarcasm. This thread won't die, like how the HIAM thread did not die until FOREVER after it peaked. VIVA LA JUDAS :'(
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Post by Hefty Hanna on May 11, 2011 22:39:28 GMT -5
Why would we lock the thread while it's still charting? ???
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Post by Kii on May 11, 2011 23:06:56 GMT -5
This is actually infinitely more catchy than EOG to me. At least it has hooks.. ???
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Post by outrageous on May 11, 2011 23:28:01 GMT -5
Knew this was gonna flop. Being an attention whore wasn't gonna work for her forever.
But I gotta admit I've warmed up to the song, mainly the production and how hard it hits.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 11, 2011 23:33:58 GMT -5
This is actually infinitely more catchy than EOG to me. At least it has hooks.. ??? IKR. The chorus is epic, especially the finale. EOG doesn't hit that sweet spot for me. It just kinda chugs along.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 11, 2011 23:37:03 GMT -5
I think the verses are what killed the song.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 11, 2011 23:46:28 GMT -5
Thank God it's getting a remaster on the album. So like a different version?
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Post by nightshade on May 11, 2011 23:49:43 GMT -5
You can't hear anything she says in the verses. Thank God it's getting a remaster on the album. It's sad they are doing such a thing. It sounds absolutely fine. I saw a copy of the BTW album already though. So has the remaster been done and made it onto the album or will it be on other copies?
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Thank God it's getting a remaster on the album. So like a different version? Possibly. But I think they will fix up the volume on the vocals and the instrumental production in order to create a proper balance so it sounds better. Usually when I think of remastering, it usually sounds worse. I have had bad past experiences with remastered editions of albums.
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Post by wavey.β¨οΈ on May 11, 2011 23:53:54 GMT -5
I think just all the buzz and things said about this song just made it stall..
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on May 11, 2011 23:54:33 GMT -5
ngl Judas did sound like a dysfunctional mess on the first couple of listens. I had to listen to it with the lyrics in front of me to appreciate it. So hopefully it's a good thing
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 11, 2011 23:58:03 GMT -5
So like a different version? Possibly. But I think they will fix up the volume on the vocals and the instrumental production in order to create a proper balance so it sounds better. Usually when I think of remastering, it usually sounds worse. I have had bad past experiences with remastered editions of albums. *cough*Celebration*cough* lol
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Post by jink on May 12, 2011 0:04:06 GMT -5
Possibly. But I think they will fix up the volume on the vocals and the instrumental production in order to create a proper balance so it sounds better. Usually when I think of remastering, it usually sounds worse. I have had bad past experiences with remastered editions of albums. *cough* Celebration The Immaculate Collection*cough* lol That butchery of LAP...
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Also, on the CD for The Fame Monster, it felt like some of the songs were too loud. "Dance In The Dark" sounded slightly distorted in some parts. Possibly. But I think they will fix up the volume on the vocals and the instrumental production in order to create a proper balance so it sounds better. Usually when I think of remastering, it usually sounds worse. I have had bad past experiences with remastered editions of albums. *cough* Celebration The Immaculate Collection*cough* lol That butchery of LAP... It was a tragedy that the Shep remix was used instead of the original version or even the 7" edit from the promo. They're just making the song sound more High Quality. The sad thing nowadays is that remastering is thought to equal louder. Many sound engineers have no f**king clue about how to actually do mastering anymore. The volume was too high for some of the songs and of course the horrible editing on "Erotica" (when that Middle Eastern vocal sample ends), "Express Yourself" (when the "c'mon girls, do you believe in love?..." stuff comes in, you can hear the spoken part cutting in and out), etc.
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Post by lugus15 on May 12, 2011 0:10:17 GMT -5
The remastering is a good idea.... Judas sounds too demo-ish, like it needed a little ¨polishing¨.
Anyways, I hope this will be able to scan 2 million in the US so as not to break her streak.... but I'm not holding my breath tho :(
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Post by JayBoozer on May 12, 2011 1:45:57 GMT -5
I'm really sad this underperformed :(. This is probably my second favorite song from her.
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Post by Lozzy on May 12, 2011 2:07:52 GMT -5
Gaga & Co weren't happy with the team that mastered BTW and Judas. They think that, Judas especially, sounds too LQ. So they've gone with a different mastering team for the album. It should sound better on the album. That is ridiculous. Please no. BTW and Judas are amazing as is, and that would just make it sooo messy.
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Post by sbk on May 12, 2011 4:11:06 GMT -5
Yes!! Many people always thought her vocals were too buried under the instrumental and sounded muffled on BTW. I thought the mixing sounded amateurish. Glad that they're fixing that
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Post by Lozzy on May 12, 2011 5:48:41 GMT -5
THURSDAY 5/12 UPDATE
15 15 LADY GAGA Judas 4801 4950 -149 27.232 β 165 Spins β 164 Bullet β 1.723 Audience
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on May 12, 2011 5:49:55 GMT -5
nice let's move to better song
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