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Post by Black Jesus on May 3, 2011 8:41:55 GMT -5
+24 on Real Time so far today. Thanks! This may sound stupid but is RealTime monitored on PST?
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Post by Lozzy on May 3, 2011 8:44:59 GMT -5
+24 on Real Time so far today. Thanks! This may sound stupid but is RealTime monitored on PST? I think it's local time, so a PST day would start 3 hours earlier than an EST day, but I'm not fully sure.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 3, 2011 8:47:10 GMT -5
Thanks! This may sound stupid but is RealTime monitored on PST? I think it's local time, so a PST day would start 3 hours earlier than an EST day, but I'm not fully sure. Yeah PST is 3 hours behind EST, which would mean it's only about 7am PST time...so that's already better than yesterday lol
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Post by Mack on May 3, 2011 8:58:21 GMT -5
Is it possible to even get as far as #18 without Clear Channel? I believe 'Slave' made it to #18 before the CC ban went into effect, and then it began to plummet.
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Post by chartfreak on May 3, 2011 10:33:14 GMT -5
Sorry, but this whole religion video stuff, it's so....hmmm...I don't know...it's like do something else. I feel like she's annoying people...and some of those people are radio programmers.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 11:00:39 GMT -5
Sorry, but this whole religion video stuff, it's so....hmmm...I don't know...it's like do something else. I feel like she's annoying people...and some of those people are radio programmers. Yeah, it's definitely annoying people and she will be turning off a lot of her casual listeners if all her stuff this era is this overly religious/political/randomly controversial ish. "Judas" is catchy and I love it now but I'm almost sure the video will turn me off it tbh.
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Post by JayBoozer on May 3, 2011 11:26:32 GMT -5
The thing is the whole song is a metaphor. Its not like she's transmitting some underlying religious message. I have no idea what she's going to be saying about religion in the video but she said it was a celebration of faith so I don't know why people think she's gotten so "serious" and "dark" lately, especially considering that Born This Way is probably her most upbeat, playful single yet.
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Post by giancarlo on May 3, 2011 12:32:51 GMT -5
The thing is the whole song is a metaphor. Its not like she's transmitting some underlying religious message. That doesn't change the fact that it's still provoking to some people. And I'm sure it was meant to be. It's release during Easter week. Using religious themes on the music video... Overall, the way it's being marketed/promoted is annoying & repulsive. Not the song itself. I don't think I'm making any sense now... ???
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Post by tsw2008 on May 3, 2011 12:50:06 GMT -5
This song is an awful, contrived, and deeply calculated attempt at controversy. It's horrendous in every way.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 3, 2011 14:21:28 GMT -5
This song is an awful, contrived, and deeply calculated attempt at controversy. It's horrendous in every way. Says the person who obviously likes the new Jeremiah song more
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Post by tsw2008 on May 3, 2011 14:42:38 GMT -5
What a dumb comment and I suppose now comes the part where I say "Says a person with J lo in their avatar." you see how that works ? We can do this all day. The Jeremiah song is a fun, club song that's all there is to it. It's not a contrived and calculated attempt at controversy. Can you not see the difference ?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 14:56:56 GMT -5
The thing is the whole song is a metaphor. Its not like she's transmitting some underlying religious message. I have no idea what she's going to be saying about religion in the video but she said it was a celebration of faith so I don't know why people think she's gotten so "serious" and "dark" lately, especially considering that Born This Way is probably her most upbeat, playful single yet. Well BTW was completely upbeat and playful but it was the video that changed things. It took away a lot of the fun from the song with all that weird/nasty imagery. Just like with "Alejandro"... a fun breezy song that all of a sudden turned into this random religion attack/issue when the video premiered.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 3, 2011 15:03:23 GMT -5
What a dumb comment and I suppose now comes the part where I say "Says a person with J lo in their avatar." you see how that works ? We can do this all day. The Jeremiah song is a fun, club song that's all there is to it. It's not a contrived and calculated attempt at controversy. Can you not see the difference ? Whatever you say
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Post by nightshade on May 3, 2011 15:09:28 GMT -5
Just like with "Alejandro"... a fun breezy song that all of a sudden turned into this random religion attack/issue when the video premiered. I think the BTW video is very fun so...
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Post by kpasa on May 3, 2011 15:16:54 GMT -5
I think the BTW video is very fun so... well yes but that's only one opinion on it. I also think the 'Born This Way' video was approached way too seriously. I thought for sure it was her not taking herself seriously till she went on about how she didn't accomplish what she wanted with it or some mess like it was supposed to be speaking to people. I was like uh..? 'Judas' is a case Gaga example. Love the song but sometimes I just wish she would do something just for funsies, not to be this serious deep reflection of her beliefs.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 3, 2011 15:40:27 GMT -5
Bits and pieces from DJ White Shadow's interview:
Lady Gaga wrote Born This Way in ten minutes, how long did the song take to produce? A lot longer than 10 minutes. I think we worked on that song the longest actually. Obviously it is a very special song. Everyone wanted it to be perfect. It was a bummer for me when everyone was saying it sounded like a Madonna song. If you know one thing about me, it is that I am absolutely not influenced by Madonna. I think it was bulls**t to be honest. I guess there are a hundred songs that you could put a pitch shift and a BPM change on and loop and make them sound like anything. In addition, there are 5 songs on the radio right now that have the exact same chords and progression. Actually there are 5 songs out that are exactly the same song, on the radio at the same time. Right now. Why doesn’t anyone ever bring that up? Thatis a f**king felony. Lets talk about that! As an added note, how many people have been copying Gaga since she came out? Oh, I have that answer: everyone. Have you seen all the lightning bolts painted on faces, or the one hand eye cover ups during photos, or the exact same promo posters being put up as Gaga’s, or the new popularity of unicorns, or the copycat fake “Oh I’m so cool with the gay community” rhetoric? Or how about the fact that there was barely any dance music on the radio until “Just Dance” came out? Come on motherf**kers, let’s keep it real here. If we are going to talk about who is chasing who, I think we all know the answer to that. So yeah, she did something new, and people had to reach back 20+ years to find a song that could have possibly sounded like it, and that made news? Come on. And I get to watch people try and f**k Gaga all the time and steal her s**t, but guess what? While you were out trying to make the music she made off The Fame, thinking she was making The Fame v2.0, she went and made some next s**t for you to chase for the next 3 years. So, suck on that.
Of all of the songs from Born This Way that you produced, which one are you most proud of? All of them. But Government Hooker gives me a rock hard boner that a small statured person could do pull ups on.
How would you describe your sound? I make fighting music. I try to make people have such a f**king good time that they literally want to punch someone in the f**king face and then give them a big wet kiss.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 3, 2011 15:40:54 GMT -5
BTW was such a fun non-serious video to me. I really cannot believe people see it as a serious, dark video lol. I mean, she is bouncing around with pink hair and dressing up in gap teeth and making fun of old sci fi films. I do see that point with ALejandro though. I still wish she had made a colorful video of some sort with that. I remember someone posted a video treatment I thought was cute and still sort of Gaga-ish-like,she is a prostitute and Alejandro is one of the men who falls in love with her along with other men. That still sounds serious, I guess, but I was imagining a fun colorful video where she has men chasing after her and she is pushing them away or something.
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Post by when the pawn... on May 3, 2011 15:52:50 GMT -5
Real Time update back to +5
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Post by Black Jesus on May 3, 2011 15:55:09 GMT -5
Real Time update back to +5 wtf....Has z100 been spinning this?
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Post by Tea-why on May 3, 2011 16:13:48 GMT -5
This song is just subpar to me (same with BTW). It's good but very time I listen to it, I have to listen to "Bad Romance" right after lol.
I'm not entirely surprised at the reception.
But I respect Gaga's talent, so I hope it does well :)
Can someone explain to me what Clear Channel is in simple terms? I'm not sure and I don't feel like reading the huge wikipedia entry :)
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on May 3, 2011 16:20:37 GMT -5
Bits and pieces from DJ White Shadow's interview: Lady Gaga wrote Born This Way in ten minutes, how long did the song take to produce?A lot longer than 10 minutes. I think we worked on that song the longest actually. Obviously it is a very special song. Everyone wanted it to be perfect. It was a bummer for me when everyone was saying it sounded like a Madonna song. If you know one thing about me, it is that I am absolutely not influenced by Madonna. I think it was bulls**t to be honest. I guess there are a hundred songs that you could put a pitch shift and a BPM change on and loop and make them sound like anything. In addition, there are 5 songs on the radio right now that have the exact same chords and progression. Actually there are 5 songs out that are exactly the same song, on the radio at the same time. Right now. Why doesn’t anyone ever bring that up? Thatis a f**king felony. Lets talk about that! As an added note, how many people have been copying Gaga since she came out? Oh, I have that answer: everyone. Have you seen all the lightning bolts painted on faces, or the one hand eye cover ups during photos, or the exact same promo posters being put up as Gaga’s, or the new popularity of unicorns, or the copycat fake “Oh I’m so cool with the gay community” rhetoric? Or how about the fact that there was barely any dance music on the radio until “Just Dance” came out? Come on motherf**kers, let’s keep it real here. If we are going to talk about who is chasing who, I think we all know the answer to that. So yeah, she did something new, and people had to reach back 20+ years to find a song that could have possibly sounded like it, and that made news? Come on. And I get to watch people try and f**k Gaga all the time and steal her s**t, but guess what? While you were out trying to make the music she made off The Fame, thinking she was making The Fame v2.0, she went and made some next s**t for you to chase for the next 3 years. So, suck on that.Of all of the songs from Born This Way that you produced, which one are you most proud of?All of them. But Government Hooker gives me a rock hard boner that a small statured person could do pull ups on. How would you describe your sound?I make fighting music. I try to make people have such a f**king good time that they literally want to punch someone in the f**king face and then give them a big wet kiss. yea like gaga invited dance music to pop right. all started around blackout mr eye shadow and even earlier
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Post by Black Jesus on May 3, 2011 16:32:47 GMT -5
Bits and pieces from DJ White Shadow's interview: Lady Gaga wrote Born This Way in ten minutes, how long did the song take to produce?A lot longer than 10 minutes. I think we worked on that song the longest actually. Obviously it is a very special song. Everyone wanted it to be perfect. It was a bummer for me when everyone was saying it sounded like a Madonna song. If you know one thing about me, it is that I am absolutely not influenced by Madonna. I think it was bulls**t to be honest. I guess there are a hundred songs that you could put a pitch shift and a BPM change on and loop and make them sound like anything. In addition, there are 5 songs on the radio right now that have the exact same chords and progression. Actually there are 5 songs out that are exactly the same song, on the radio at the same time. Right now. Why doesn’t anyone ever bring that up? Thatis a f**king felony. Lets talk about that! As an added note, how many people have been copying Gaga since she came out? Oh, I have that answer: everyone. Have you seen all the lightning bolts painted on faces, or the one hand eye cover ups during photos, or the exact same promo posters being put up as Gaga’s, or the new popularity of unicorns, or the copycat fake “Oh I’m so cool with the gay community” rhetoric? Or how about the fact that there was barely any dance music on the radio until “Just Dance” came out? Come on motherf**kers, let’s keep it real here. If we are going to talk about who is chasing who, I think we all know the answer to that. So yeah, she did something new, and people had to reach back 20+ years to find a song that could have possibly sounded like it, and that made news? Come on. And I get to watch people try and f**k Gaga all the time and steal her s**t, but guess what? While you were out trying to make the music she made off The Fame, thinking she was making The Fame v2.0, she went and made some next s**t for you to chase for the next 3 years. So, suck on that.Of all of the songs from Born This Way that you produced, which one are you most proud of?All of them. But Government Hooker gives me a rock hard boner that a small statured person could do pull ups on. How would you describe your sound?I make fighting music. I try to make people have such a f**king good time that they literally want to punch someone in the f**king face and then give them a big wet kiss. yea like gaga invited dance music to pop right. all started around blackout mr eye shadow and even earlier Ummm not quite. Gimme More, Piece of Me, and Break the Ice weren't quite "dance" songs. They were pop but they weren't really club bangers either.
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Post by kpasa on May 3, 2011 16:35:58 GMT -5
Absolutely not. Take the Britney talk out of here. Dance music has been around for decades.
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Post by nightshade on May 3, 2011 16:40:22 GMT -5
Absolutely not. Take the Britney talk out of here. Dance music has been around for decades. Right. Britney does not belong here, LOVE, shame on you! Love DJ White Shadow's responses.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 16:41:02 GMT -5
"If you know one thing about me, it is that I am absolutely not influenced by Madonna."
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Post by nightshade on May 3, 2011 16:43:47 GMT -5
"If you know one thing about me, it is that I am absolutely not influenced by Madonna." I hope you know that DJ White Shadow (one of the main producers on Born This Way) is the one answering in this interview and it's not Lady GaGa.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 3, 2011 16:43:49 GMT -5
"If you know one thing about me, it is that I am absolutely not influenced by Madonna." Sarcasm
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 16:49:21 GMT -5
"If you know one thing about me, it is that I am absolutely not influenced by Madonna." I hope you know that DJ White Shadow (one of the main producers on Born This Way) is the one answering in this interview and it's not Lady GaGa. That makes more sense but I still like that line
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 16:57:14 GMT -5
Bits and pieces from DJ White Shadow's interview: It was a bummer for me when everyone was saying it sounded like a Madonna song. If you know one thing about me, it is that I am absolutely not influenced by Madonna. I think it was bulls**t to be honest. I guess there are a hundred songs that you could put a pitch shift and a BPM change on and loop and make them sound like anything.or the one hand eye cover ups during photos or the copycat fake “Oh I’m so cool with the gay community” rhetoric? Lawllllz. People like him are exactly the reason why Gaga is specifically called out or targeted when she follows/borrows/"copies" something from somebody else as opposed to other artists. That actually sounds like something Gaga herself would even say nowadays tbh.
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Post by kpasa on May 3, 2011 17:07:15 GMT -5
That actually sounds like something Gaga herself would even say nowadays tbh. I genuinely thought I was reading a Gaga interview until I saw the tag. ETA so I don't sound like an idiot: from the excerpts. The whole interview makes it obvious it isn't her.
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