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Post by kpasa on Apr 13, 2011 23:39:02 GMT -5
dunno why this ain't here yet but: I... should love it. Very simple, very effective, but for a song that's supposed to be more of a general song about personal struggles with yourself/in love, the cross seems so unnecessary and even a little cheap.
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Post by jink on Apr 13, 2011 23:45:11 GMT -5
Hmm... well, the song does employ a religious metaphor, so it is relevant. Besides, Gaga's rather fixated with cross imagery, probably a result of attending Catholic school.
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Post by kpasa on Apr 13, 2011 23:47:50 GMT -5
It just seems a little arbitrary though; the title alone should imply the religious context. The cross just seems thrown on there for very little reason at all, if nothing more than to draw attention to it (negative or otherwise). Either way, she's just really pushing it lately.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Apr 13, 2011 23:51:45 GMT -5
It just seems a little arbitrary though; the title alone should imply the religious context. The cross just seems thrown on there for very little reason at all, if nothing more than to draw attention to it (negative or otherwise). Either way, she's just really pushing it lately. LOL. Of course, she's pushing it! It's creating buzz for the single. If it was some boring cover, no attention to lead-up. C'mon this is what we expect from the Ga. Bottom line: I just hope it's a great tune.
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Post by xxfetchmonsterxx on Apr 13, 2011 23:53:40 GMT -5
It just seems a little arbitrary though; the title alone should imply the religious context. The cross just seems thrown on there for very little reason at all, if nothing more than to draw attention to it (negative or otherwise). Either way, she's just really pushing it lately. I really don't want her to go overboard with religious elements in her music/ videos. Of course it's okay to incorporate it occasionally, but I really don't want another mess like Alejandro in terms of the video. Not to mention there will be backlash.
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 13, 2011 23:56:52 GMT -5
dunno why this ain't here yet but: 29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljm6w8JwbM1qbs96mo1_500.jpgI... should love it. Very simple, very effective, but for a song that's supposed to be more of a general song about personal struggles with yourself/in love, the cross seems so unnecessary and even a little cheap. That's just a fan recreation/extension of what we saw in the end of the video, there are multiple versions of those. For all we know, that still at the end of the video could've had nothing to do with the artwork - or, the top and bottom of the cover are totally different to the rest. Just sayin ;)
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 13, 2011 23:57:18 GMT -5
She needs to be more respectful towards her religious fans.
That being said, I see nothing wrong with the single cover unless I'm missing the ~symbolism of it.
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Post by kpasa on Apr 14, 2011 0:00:41 GMT -5
LOL. Of course, she's pushing it! It's creating buzz for the single. If it was some boring cover, no attention to lead-up. C'mon this is what we expect from the Ga. Bottom line: I just hope it's a great tune. I don't see anyone else playing the religion card to create hype for their material, do you? But I agree, this is expected of Gaga, and her shtick is becoming incredibly stale and predictable. Not a fan. Not to mention there will be backlash. I doubt Gaga will experience any kind of serious backlash. 'Alejandro' did phenomenal despite the racy video. It might rub people (FOX News, more than anyone) the wrong way, but really I don't think she's going to have an overwhelmingly negative response. Media attention is media attention, good or bad, and exploiting religion is a great way to get it without doing too much damage to your image. For some, this is probably seen as genius. For me though, it's just cheap. That's just a fan recreation/extension of what we saw in the end of the video, there are multiple versions of those. For all we know, that still at the end of the video could've had nothing to do with the artwork - or, the top and bottom of the cover are totally different to the rest. Just sayin ..oop lol. It was posted on @martianleaks' blog, and generally they're a fairly reliable source for this sort of thing. Pretty much just took it and ran with it; if it's fake my apologies.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 14, 2011 0:07:25 GMT -5
there's obviously going to be a "Like a Prayer" vs "Judas" poll, especially for the video.
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 14, 2011 0:11:06 GMT -5
That's just a fan recreation/extension of what we saw in the end of the video, there are multiple versions of those. For all we know, that still at the end of the video could've had nothing to do with the artwork - or, the top and bottom of the cover are totally different to the rest. Just sayin ..oop lol. It was posted on @martianleaks' blog, and generally they're a fairly reliable source for this sort of thing. Pretty much just took it and ran with it; if it's fake my apologies. The real cover could definitely be that or very similar to that, just pointing out that it hasn't been confirmed by anyone official. Of course we're yet to hear the song, but I'm still mixed on that cover. It does look cheap (and saying that it was made in Word and with a cellphone confirms that), and having a cross with a heart embedded in it...? On the other hand though, it's simple and brings past the point of the song - if that relates to the point of the song. I probably would prefer something else, but I don't dislike it.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Apr 14, 2011 0:13:15 GMT -5
Still dying. She continues her attempt to sing despite gravity thrusting her to the ground. That's gonna be the death of her
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Post by xxfetchmonsterxx on Apr 14, 2011 0:13:57 GMT -5
Still dying. She continues her attempt to sing despite gravity thrusting her to the ground. That's gonna be the death of her I laughed at this when I first saw it haha. Still pretty cool of her to continue as if nothing happened.
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Post by David on Apr 14, 2011 0:54:16 GMT -5
'Deluxe makes the other version seem like it has less value' BARF. I actually hate that word with an album too. Deluxe sounds like a word you should only hear or see on a fast food menu.
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Post by nightshade on Apr 14, 2011 7:55:33 GMT -5
Note: In the promo single cover, there's a heart in the intersection of the cross. She needs to be more respectful towards her religious fans. I'm religious and I'm fine with what she's done. ???
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Post by lum on Apr 14, 2011 8:05:49 GMT -5
She needs to be more respectful towards her religious fans. I'm religious and I'm fine with what she's done. ??? +1
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Apr 14, 2011 8:06:16 GMT -5
Hmm... well, the song does employ a religious metaphor, so it is relevant. Besides, Gaga's rather fixated with cross imagery, probably a result of attending Catholic school. The simplest, to the point post on this page and the one I agree with the most. There won't be a backlash and if there is, it will be minor and completely overblown. I don't personally feel she's pushing anything, and it's quite cynical to claim she's just pulling out the religious card, especially when she's already incorporated that sort of imagery into a previous release. It's hardly the 'oh what can I do NOW that I haven't done yet to push people's buttons' approach. That said, I'm not stupid; there's always a reason. However, as the post above me points out - an interest in religious imagery is natural given her background.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 14, 2011 9:35:52 GMT -5
I had a dream about this song last night. It sounded amazing. Note: In the promo single cover, there's a heart in the intersection of the cross. She needs to be more respectful towards her religious fans. I'm religious and I'm fine with what she's done. ??? We've already had this discussion, but some view dressing up in a latex pope costume and swallowing rosaries is a bit distasteful. I really don't feel like having this conversation again.
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Post by nightshade on Apr 14, 2011 9:38:04 GMT -5
I had a dream about this song last night. It sounded amazing. Note: In the promo single cover, there's a heart in the intersection of the cross. I'm religious and I'm fine with what she's done. ??? We've already had this discussion, but some view dressing up in a latex pope costume and swallowing rosaries is a bit distasteful. I really don't feel like having this conversation again. People will view anything she does as distasteful so...
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 14, 2011 9:53:44 GMT -5
I had a dream about this song last night. It sounded amazing. We've already had this discussion, but some view dressing up in a latex pope costume and swallowing rosaries is a bit distasteful. I really don't feel like having this conversation again. People will view anything she does as distasteful so... Just making a general comment here too: I honestly don't care what she does. Her doing things like that really turn me off but she has every right to do it and if I don't like it, then I don't watch it. I just don't think it's the smartest career move. I doubt she cares though.
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Post by BRhap786 on Apr 14, 2011 9:58:37 GMT -5
Hearing "Bad Romance" last night loud and in the car + hearing that "Judas" is more like previous Gaga tracks vs. something like "BTW" = I'm now very very excited for this to debut! Bring it on next week!!
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Post by kpasa on Apr 14, 2011 10:15:18 GMT -5
It's really not worth debating opinions... lmao. I mean, it's fine to disagree and voice your point but seriously now.
Anyway, I was more than little tired last night, but something about the religions business rubs me the wrong way still even in right mind (congrats to those of you who are religious and don't care; my opinion still stands). As far as the imagery goes, I wasn't saying the cross was irrelevant so much as it is unnecessary; slight difference. I just find it odd how in the interviews the song is played up to be metaphorical more than religious, yet here we are with this cover... seems a bit contradictory.
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Post by nightshade on Apr 14, 2011 10:24:13 GMT -5
As far as the imagery goes, I wasn't saying the cross was irrelevant so much as it is unnecessary; slight difference. I just find it odd how in the interviews the song is played up to be metaphorical more than religious, yet here we are with this cover... seems a bit contradictory. I don't find anyone playing up the song to be anything other than what it is. It didn't sound metaphorical when she said "You have to look into what is haunting you and you need to look into forgiving yourself in order to move on." I thought the artwork is just saying 'I'll let my music do the talking' and she's already stated that there will be some symbolism in the video.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 14, 2011 10:25:50 GMT -5
Well, if she wanted the music to speak for itself she wouldn't have included a cross at all rofl.
I don't see anything wrong with the cross, I'm just saying.
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Post by nightshade on Apr 14, 2011 10:27:39 GMT -5
Well, if she wanted the music to speak for itself she wouldn't have included a cross at all rofl. Well there's a cross and a heart in it.
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Post by kpasa on Apr 14, 2011 10:30:46 GMT -5
It didn't sound metaphorical when she said "You have to look into what is haunting you and you need to look into forgiving yourself in order to move on." ..that would be the metaphor for 'Judas', yes. Again, i don't see a problem with it from a religious standpoint (I think she's on the verge at times in other areas, but not with this cover specifically, if I may clarify.) Just saying it feels like something of a call for attention more than anything TO ME. That's all.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Apr 14, 2011 11:06:55 GMT -5
Sometimes I wish Gaga would just have single covers where she is blonde, looks normal, and its just a random face shot or whatever. Then people wouldn't have pages upon pages picking one very cover. Though, I have to say it is kinda cool that a little ole maybe single cover can get that reaction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 11:11:10 GMT -5
I had a dream about this song last night. It sounded amazing. Looks like Gaga is attacking us in our dreams
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Apr 14, 2011 11:24:42 GMT -5
Its so funny when I hear people say they dreamt about a song that hasn't even come out. lol
BTW, that video of Gaga falling...what makes it even funnier is that guy looking for her under the piano, but she's already up.
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Post by bibliotheque on Apr 14, 2011 13:11:24 GMT -5
New lyrics
Jesus is my virtue, and Judas is the demon I cling to, I cling to.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 14, 2011 13:19:50 GMT -5
I can honestly say I can't wait for Tuesday to come. I am so excited for this. I think this may be a true return to form after BTW.
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