Kii
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Post by Kii on May 13, 2011 20:41:54 GMT -5
To those that say Judas wasn't a flop need to wake up. You're in denial. I don't care if the song debuted at #10 or even #5 on the Hot 100 thanks to its "incredible" sales, it still tumbled like a box of rocks and will have no longevity. I doubt it will sell any albums. The definition of flop varies from artist to artist. Lady Gaga has never had a single peak outside of the Top 5 on Pop. This peaked at #15. FLOP Clearly. The baffling thing though is how hard it flopped considering the performance of her previous material. Tbh this sounded like a #1 to me and a return to form for her after the kinda average BTW.
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TGIF
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Post by TGIF on May 13, 2011 20:45:51 GMT -5
To those that say Judas wasn't a flop need to wake up. You're in denial. I don't care if the song debuted at #10 or even #5 on the Hot 100 thanks to its "incredible" sales, it still tumbled like a box of rocks and will have no longevity. I doubt it will sell any albums. The definition of flop varies from artist to artist. Lady Gaga has never had a single peak outside of the Top 5 on Pop. This peaked at #15. FLOP Clearly. The baffling thing though is how hard it flopped considering the performance of her previous material. Tbh this sounded like a #1 to me and a return to form for her after the kinda average BTW. yeah especially compared to like Alejandro and even Lovegame..
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Post by Hussy on May 13, 2011 23:13:56 GMT -5
ouchhh @ the update , this song is abt to die ( or already died ) although its the best single so far from her upcoming album !!!
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Post by $uperb@tDuDe on May 13, 2011 23:32:11 GMT -5
I still love this song even if the label and fans have given up on it
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 23:33:28 GMT -5
I still love this song even if the label and fans have given up on it
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Drozeey
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Post by Drozeey on May 14, 2011 0:28:07 GMT -5
My god why didn't anyone tell me that Goldfrapp remixed Judas!!
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Post by frashcoholic on May 14, 2011 2:14:18 GMT -5
I love it more than BTW
kinda sad to see this underperformed
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on May 14, 2011 3:15:04 GMT -5
My god why didn't anyone tell me that Goldfrapp remixed Judas!! I hadn't heard either until Alison tweeted about it!
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on May 14, 2011 3:23:48 GMT -5
The Hurts Remix is fantastic as well; such a shame.
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Post by KMJ1 on May 14, 2011 3:52:56 GMT -5
um...if theres this "closet killer, amazing single" theyre purposly holding back and waiting to release, WHY would they possibly be waiting to release it as a 4th OR 5th single LOL?? lol. Id love to hear the strategy or reasoning behind that rationale. lol
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Post by Lozzy on May 14, 2011 4:15:52 GMT -5
um...if theres this "closet killer, amazing single" theyre purposly holding back and waiting to release, WHY would they possibly be waiting to release it as a 4th OR 5th single LOL?? lol. Id love to hear the strategy or reasoning behind that rationale. lol To spread out the era, have good album longevity and keep her in the spotlight for as long as possible? Theoretically, in Katy's next era (only using her as an example because she's massive), if the first single is released in the spring and is quite average, it could smash anyway. If the second single, released in the summer is still subpar but better and very summer-friendly, it could smash anyway. It's from the third single that quality can often start to matter, as the hype is dying down etc. Do you get where I'm going at? If that 'killer track' you speak of was released as the second single, well, it'll smash, she'll be massive around the album date etc, but she's massive now anyway. If she releases that 'killer track' as the fourth or fifth single, then it'll keep the project alive when it's already far in, and keep the album sales up, keep people interested in her, helping tour sales, longevity, album sales, etc. Understand?
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HEADOFTHEPACK
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on May 14, 2011 4:36:17 GMT -5
case in point: Last Friday Night
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Post by Lozzy on May 14, 2011 4:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2011 5:08:21 GMT -5
I JUST HEARD JUDAS ON THE RADIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Post by jink on May 14, 2011 5:12:57 GMT -5
I thought they only played P!nk on the radio over there.
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Post by falkos on May 14, 2011 5:23:18 GMT -5
you Lady fans must realise that the days that US Radios were playing all Gaga songs all day for 2 years are OVER. Her recent 3 singles aren't Just Dance, Poker Face or Alejandro. She doesn't need to spend 10 mil $ in her videos, she must do good music
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2011 5:24:37 GMT -5
^I fail to see how Alejandro fits in there...
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Kii
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Post by Kii on May 14, 2011 6:10:27 GMT -5
you Lady fans must realise that the days that US Radios were playing all Gaga songs all day for 2 years are OVER. Her recent 3 singles aren't Just Dance, Poker Face or Alejandro. She doesn't need to spend 10 mil $ in her videos, she must do good music
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Post by ashley on May 14, 2011 6:21:57 GMT -5
I think the problem with Judas was Born This Way. I think other than fans, most people were really disappointed by Born This Way. Yes, it had an amazing debut because everyone got caught up in the hype but I think a lot of people weren't that impressed and have snubbed Judas as a result. People weren't willing to blindly buy a song again and radios weren't willing to play it death in a week when the last song turned out to be not so great and now people just seem indifferent to it and are probably just waiting for the album.
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Post by Lozzy on May 14, 2011 6:26:13 GMT -5
I thought they only played P!nk on the radio over there. Oh, no, this was American radio, still yet to hear it on Australian radio SATURDAY 5/14 UPDATE15 16 LADY GAGA Judas 4308 4960 -652 22.875 – 275 Spins – 302 Bullet – 2.295 Audience brb, killing someone. Edit: failed :( But anyway, debuts at #24 on the AT40 this week! Ridiculously late, but it's awesome to hear it on radio for a second time! 'The Edge of Glory' should enter in about a month.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2011 6:44:56 GMT -5
:O will this beat Born This Ways negative bullet? :O
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Lozzy
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Post by Lozzy on May 14, 2011 6:47:52 GMT -5
:O will this beat Born This Ways negative bullet? :O Yeah, tomorrow. 'Born This Way' gained bullet today after all. At this stage, it looks like 'Born This Way' may well last its twenty weeks in the chart (up till 7/3), but 'Judas' will most likely be out by then. So sad.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 14, 2011 6:49:12 GMT -5
Wait, this is losing spins on radio?
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Lozzy
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Post by Lozzy on May 14, 2011 7:00:15 GMT -5
Wait, this is losing spins on radio? I don't understand. Next.
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Post by kmbgs on May 14, 2011 9:56:57 GMT -5
Whoa this is really plummeting, had no idea. But ya, bring on TEOG.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 14, 2011 11:11:44 GMT -5
To those that say Judas wasn't a flop need to wake up. You're in denial. I don't care if the song debuted at #10 or even #5 on the Hot 100 thanks to its "incredible" sales, it still tumbled like a box of rocks and will have no longevity. I doubt it will sell any albums. The definition of flop varies from artist to artist. Lady Gaga has never had a single peak outside of the Top 5 on Pop. This peaked at #15. FLOP I mean, peaking at #15 is fine if you have a 20 week run, but this looks like it'll peak at #15 with a 6-7 week run - that's a flop for ANY artist
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Post by Pikachu. on May 14, 2011 11:23:38 GMT -5
HIAM GOT A +10 TODAY. SO THIS IS FLOP. 4real tho, this will obviously fall fast cause TEOG is coming up fast. So it really isn't a surprise or anything.
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TGIF
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Post by TGIF on May 14, 2011 15:28:28 GMT -5
OMG she killed her performance of this on graham norton! everything was amazing, i'm not ready to move on from this yet :'(
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Post by JayBoozer on May 14, 2011 15:35:47 GMT -5
OMG she killed her performance of this on graham norton! everything was amazing, i'm not ready to move on from this yet :'(
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Post by xxfetchmonsterxx on May 14, 2011 15:36:45 GMT -5
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