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Post by Typo on Sept 9, 2011 14:22:46 GMT -5
Lauren Alaina Dishes On Proposals, Love Songs and the Tune Carrie Underwood Wrote for WildflowerYou’ve mentioned working with Carrie Underwood, too…
Well, she wrote one of the songs that’s on my album.
Can you tease anything about that song for us?
It’s a really sweet song about two young teenagers that fell in love and, you know, have thoughts like teenagers and do things that teenagers do, like they runaway and stuff. It’s really pretty. Get that songwriter coin, Carrie.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 9, 2011 15:34:31 GMT -5
I can't at some people putting Carrie as the fourth person most likely to win the FVOTY at the CMAs. Oy. Oh I know! No way that Sara Evans wins the award over Carrie! I would put Carrie third behind Taylor and Miranda, but still with an outside chance. Sara and Martina don't stand a chance in my opinion, but Taylor, Miranda and Carrie all do.
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Post by what on Sept 9, 2011 16:14:12 GMT -5
how come? sara has the biggest comeback and biggest single of the year, bigger than any of carrie, miranda, or taylor's singles the past year. i say she has way more than a fighting chance of winning the award. her nom wasnt just a token nom. its legit.
and sara has already beaten carrie at fvoty at the acms. it isnt that impossible.
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Post by cufan7 on Sept 9, 2011 16:42:50 GMT -5
Lauren Alaina Dishes On Proposals, Love Songs and the Tune Carrie Underwood Wrote for WildflowerYou’ve mentioned working with Carrie Underwood, too…
Well, she wrote one of the songs that’s on my album.
Can you tease anything about that song for us?
It’s a really sweet song about two young teenagers that fell in love and, you know, have thoughts like teenagers and do things that teenagers do, like they runaway and stuff. It’s really pretty. Get that songwriter coin, Carrie. Excited to hear that, those are my favorite types of songs...
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Post by desertfloods on Sept 9, 2011 19:34:33 GMT -5
how come? sara has the biggest comeback and biggest single of the year, bigger than any of carrie, miranda, or taylor's singles the past year. i say she has way more than a fighting chance of winning the award. her nom wasnt just a token nom. its legit. and sara has already beaten carrie at fvoty at the acms. it isnt that impossible. Although I agree it isn't impossible, but Sara winning over Carrie at 2006 ACM... that was when Carrie only had one no.1 single and was only about 6 months old in the country scene. I don't see how that's comparable to this past year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2011 19:42:25 GMT -5
I love the JTTW video from the PP Party. :) how come? sara has the biggest comeback and biggest single of the year, bigger than any of carrie, miranda, or taylor's singles the past year. i say she has way more than a fighting chance of winning the award. her nom wasnt just a token nom. its legit. and sara has already beaten carrie at fvoty at the acms. it isnt that impossible. Sara winning at the ACMs 6 years ago isn't relevant. Sara's had a comeback year, but the #1 was all there really was to it. Carrie's sold more albums & singles than her in the past year. Stronger has only sold 278k as of the Sept. 17, 2011 chart date. Sara had a two-week #1, but Carrie had a #2 and RM went #1. Carrie also had a larger-scale tour during the period than Sara did. I don't see how people are putting Sara ahead of so many just because it was a comeback year. I like her, and the comeback was very cool to see, but it doesn't mean it warrants her an award over people who have succeeded more in the past year than her. Oh, well. This situation will always be a black & white one and never any grey in between.
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Post by what on Sept 9, 2011 20:04:14 GMT -5
i wasnt saying its comparable. im saying it could happen, again, since it has already happened. a lot of people, not you two in particular, think sara has no chance wnning against carrie just bec she has way weaker vocals. while i think that carrie has better vocals, i dont agree that sara doesnt stand a chance, ever. since she has won before.
the thing is, as the past recent cmas have shown, success is relative as to who judges it. no one really sits down and tallies every number, every sales, every #1, every concert tour that nominees have achieved in the past year. say a voter recognizes that carrie has been relatively successful selling albums, singles, concerts, etc., but sees sara's comeback more impactful bec it defied more odds compared to carries, and maybe taylor's quite "easy" roads to success. and thinks in that case sara deserves the award more. whos to say thats wrong???
i dont agree its as simple as black and white. i think its actually grey all over. people vote for diff reasons that appeal to them. and while i may not think sara may be the clear-cut winner, i wouldnt be surprised if she wins. i can see her getting the vote from "older" folks or "smaller" acts bec they may feel more connected to her than they do to carrie and taylor and their mega-success that seems surreal for most. its naturla of people to feel of wanting to root for someone. people want an underdog to root for. they want a fairy-tale, a feel-good story. sara fits that bill, regardless of whether shes less statiscally successful than other nominees or not. thats why people have been pushing miranda all these years until she finally broke through, and won all these awards, even though her so-called "biggest" year is not even half of carries sh era. she was the underdog to carries top dog. now, sara's the underdog to the young ladies' top dog. people dont always vote on success. maybe they should, but its not always the case.
i would be ecstatic if carrie wins her 4th, that would tie her up with reba and martina and still leave her plenty of time to get that record-setting 5th award. if i had a vote, i would vote for carrie, not bec of her sales or her tours, or her singles, but bec in my opinion she delivered the best performance of the year in hgta, and that should be enough to define fvoty. bar none.
but sara will be my close second. i like her comeback more than the successful numbers of taylor and miranda, which thye would probably achieve with much regularity now.
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Post by TFMachado on Sept 9, 2011 20:18:04 GMT -5
Sorry, just fixing an historic error here: in 2006, when Sara won Top Female Vocalist at the ACMs, Carrie was nominated for Top New Female Vocalist, and won... so no, Sara never beat Carrie at an award, at least not that particular one!
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Post by what on Sept 9, 2011 20:32:50 GMT -5
carrie WAS nominated in the top female vocalist, along with martina, sara, gretchen and leanne. so yes, sara has beaten carrie before in the top female award. as absurd as it may sound to some. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTkHM1jtRVYcarrie beat miranda and julie roberts in the top new female voclasit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2011 23:18:12 GMT -5
I just hope this longer wait for the album means a more artistic/organic album. I want something original with that critical acclaim that she deserves. I want the critics to be blown away, and I want the album to be a classic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2011 23:49:20 GMT -5
I do wonder if something is happening behind the scenes at the label since this is Carrie's first album since Joe Galante left, and ever since he left, things in Carrie's world have just been... off compared to the usual. I don't know, but I'm curious to see how this album and its release plays out. the thing is, as the past recent cmas have shown, success is relative as to who judges it. no one really sits down and tallies every number, every sales, every #1, every concert tour that nominees have achieved in the past year. say a voter recognizes that carrie has been relatively successful selling albums, singles, concerts, etc., but sees sara's comeback more impactful bec it defied more odds compared to carries, and maybe taylor's quite "easy" roads to success. and thinks in that case sara deserves the award more. whos to say thats wrong??? i dont agree its as simple as black and white. i think its actually grey all over. people vote for diff reasons that appeal to them. and while i may not think sara may be the clear-cut winner, i wouldnt be surprised if she wins. i can see her getting the vote from "older" folks or "smaller" acts bec they may feel more connected to her than they do to carrie and taylor and their mega-success that seems surreal for most. its naturla of people to feel of wanting to root for someone. people want an underdog to root for. they want a fairy-tale, a feel-good story. sara fits that bill, regardless of whether shes less statiscally successful than other nominees or not. thats why people have been pushing miranda all these years until she finally broke through, and won all these awards, even though her so-called "biggest" year is not even half of carries sh era. she was the underdog to carries top dog. now, sara's the underdog to the young ladies' top dog. people dont always vote on success. maybe they should, but its not always the case. i would be ecstatic if carrie wins her 4th, that would tie her up with reba and martina and still leave her plenty of time to get that record-setting 5th award. if i had a vote, i would vote for carrie, not bec of her sales or her tours, or her singles, but bec in my opinion she delivered the best performance of the year in hgta, and that should be enough to define fvoty. bar none. but sara will be my close second. i like her comeback more than the successful numbers of taylor and miranda, which thye would probably achieve with much regularity now. I see what you're saying and I definitely respect it. I will have to agree with you on the fact that the voters may see Sara's comeback as a larger force than Carrie's steady year. However, I'm still sticking with my guns that people are definitely underestimating Carrie. I really, truly, honestly would not be surprised if she pulls out a win at the ceremony this year.
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Post by TFMachado on Sept 10, 2011 0:33:20 GMT -5
carrie WAS nominated in the top female vocalist, along with martina, sara, gretchen and leanne. so yes, sara has beaten carrie before in the top female award. as absurd as it may sound to some. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTkHM1jtRVYcarrie beat miranda and julie roberts in the top new female voclasit. ok, I stand corrected... sorry for that... I tried looking for the nominated female vocalists and all I could find was on wikipedia that Carrie wasn't nominated for that award... weird!! ???
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Post by countrybamafan on Sept 10, 2011 2:37:16 GMT -5
I agree with what. I am actually predicting Sara to take home the trophy. Yes, she's only had 1 big hit, but it was a big comeback hit for her. Sara's not exactly a newbie either. She's been in the music business for years. This was her comeback year. And, I think I remember reading on here or somewhere that Sara has never won a FV award at the CMA's (just at the ACM's?). Well, that's going to make people want to vote for her even more. She's no Carrie, but she's had some hits in the day and has never taken home a CMA FV trophy. Her big hit this year was nominated for Single of the Year, so obviously, the industry approves of Sara. Sara came back in a pretty big way. It's a feel-good story. She took some years off after her nasty divorce, got herself together and found a new husband, and she came back as strong as ever. People will love that (and I think many will realize this could very easily be her last shot of ever winning the award).
As many have said, I doubt most voters sit and look at a bunch of numbers to decide who to vote for. They just won't. They'll vote for their sentimental favorite at the time. And I think a lot of people will feel that Sara deserves the award. So I am predicting her to win. Of course, I would love to be wrong and for Carrie to win (I like Sara well enough, but of course love Carrie).
Moving on from Sara. I really don't think Miranda has a big shot of winning this year. THTBM is over! It's in the past. Look at how many nominations she got this year. 2. One of them was a token nomination for Coal Miner's Daughter with Loretta Lynn (and that got in likely because Remind Me wasn't considered for a nomination). So Miranda didn't really do any better than Carrie when it came to nominations. Sure, Heart Like Mine did well (went to #1), and I guess she helped Pistol Annies get a little recognition. Other than that, not too much.
Carrie hasn't had the biggest year, but she's done pretty well and managed to keep herself in the public eye. Of course, HGTA was a viral sensation and can only help her. Remind Me, while Brad's song, can only help her. Her duets with Randy Travis and Tony Bennett can only help her. It seems there are others who are just now appreciating Carrie's vocal talent. That can only help Carrie. Therefore, I think Carrie has a better shot of winning the award than Miranda!
Then we have Taylor. Sure, her tour has been a major success (and she's nominated for EOTY), but it seems the country industry is not as warm towards her as they were during the Fearless era. Her singles have done fine, and yes, Mean is nominated for Song. Yes, she is a superstar and will likely continue to be for a while. But, her status with the country music industry doesn't seem to be as bright as it was during the Fearless era (and I don't think she'll ever get to that point again). I think that's why she won FV that one year. She couldn't be denied that award any longer. And the competition wasn't very strong at the time either. So, I don't see her winning FV (I see her possibly getting either EOTY or Album).
There's no need to mention Martina (I am pretty surprised Reba was not nominated. Even though I don't think Reba had too much of a shot winning, she certainly had a much better shot than Martina does now. Would have made things more interesting in the FV category). So to sum this up, I am predicting Sara will win. I think Carrie has the next best shot, followed by Miranda, then Taylor (and no need to mention Martina, even though I just did....)
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Post by fischbone on Sept 10, 2011 8:25:51 GMT -5
I don't get all this Sara Evens talk. She had a come back, with one freaking song? I don't really call that a come back at all. Sorry. I don't think she has a chance for FVOTY so I would be shocked if she actually won. I think it's between Miranda and Carrie once again.....
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Post by cufan7 on Sept 10, 2011 9:28:10 GMT -5
I don't get all this Sara Evens talk. She had a come back, with one freaking song? I don't really call that a come back at all. Sorry. I don't think she has a chance for FVOTY so I would be shocked if she actually won. I think it's between Miranda and Carrie once again..... I agree, Sara won't get it nor do I think she's deserving over Miranda, Carrie, or Taylor. Honestly looking back at the year Taylor deserves it but I think they should and will give her Entertainer and Miranda will take Female.
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Post by what on Sept 10, 2011 10:50:38 GMT -5
i still think to this day taylors fvoty win was just an overreaction of the cmas wanting to protect its own against big bad kanye. and i dont believe competition wasnt strong - carrie was the fave to win her 4th stratigh. and based on the reaction of the audience, and taylors self-deprecating reaction herself, no one expected her to win that award. the other awards she truly deserved.
well for me, "biggest" years, and "comeback" years are usually predicated on one song, and if that song is impactful enough, then one song is all you really need. mirandas big year really revolved around thtbm. imagine if she didnt have thtbm, would she still have a "big" year just revolving around white liar and only prettier??? carries biggest year revolved around bhc and its crossover success. taylor's was built around ybwm. a year can go by pretty fast, theres only so much songs to remember and have an impact on people. saras song connected well enough with everyone that it has a high chance of ending up as billboards #1 single of the year. pretty cool if you ask me, considering her personal story, being out of music for awhile, her age and that the superstars didnt rest the past year and continued churning out hits, hers is the one that stands above the rest.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 10, 2011 11:03:38 GMT -5
The award is for the top female of the year in the industry, not the female with the biggest improvement from the previous year. This is why I think everyone who thinks Sara is going to win is will likely be disappointed when the awards happen. She had one #1 song. And an album that is selling decently but nothing spectacular. Carrie, Taylor and Miranda have all sold more albums and singles, much higher tour sales, and overall just way more hype than Sara in the past year. I would honestly be shocked if Sara won. Well, I take that back. I wouldn't because it is the CMAs who have had major screw ups in the past (with nominations mostly, but winners too), so having Sara win wouldn't really surprise me, but in my opinion, she doesn't compare to Miranda, Taylor and Carrie even remotely.
But even as much as I'd love to see Carrie win this year, I think it will go to Miranda again.
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Post by desertfloods on Sept 10, 2011 11:27:13 GMT -5
well for me, "biggest" years, and "comeback" years are usually predicated on one song, and if that song is impactful enough, then one song is all you really need. mirandas big year really revolved around thtbm. imagine if she didnt have thtbm, would she still have a "big" year just revolving around white liar and only prettier??? carries biggest year revolved around bhc and its crossover success. taylor's was built around ybwm. a year can go by pretty fast, theres only so much songs to remember and have an impact on people. saras song connected well enough with everyone that it has a high chance of ending up as billboards #1 single of the year. pretty cool if you ask me, considering her personal story, being out of music for awhile, her age and that the superstars didnt rest the past year and continued churning out hits, hers is the one that stands above the rest. Quite agree with this. Especially in relation to Miranda's big year. Not as much for Carrie's and Taylor's big year though, since besides one big hit song (Taylor had two), their hype and sales during those eras were actually massive! I think I prefer to see Sara win as compared to Miranda. (if Carrie can't win, of course)
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Post by what on Sept 10, 2011 12:46:15 GMT -5
if youre gonna make an album with the critics in mind, then thats where all the trouble starts. sometimes, critics critic just for the sake of critiquing. if some of them had already made their mind about carrie, i dont think a great album will change that. most of the time, they are snooty bec they are snoots, plain and simple.
theres no need to please critics. what i want from carrie is just have a much more discerning and discriminating taste in choosing songs. songs that match her talent, not songs that will be improved by her talent. thats all, everything else should follow after that. a great album like adele's, i doubt she made 19 and 21 with the critics in mind. she just chose the best songs. and people took notice.
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Post by countrybamafan on Sept 10, 2011 12:58:34 GMT -5
i still think to this day taylors fvoty win was just an overreaction of the cmas wanting to protect its own against big bad kanye. and i dont believe competition wasnt strong - carrie was the fave to win her 4th stratigh. and based on the reaction of the audience, and taylors self-deprecating reaction herself, no one expected her to win that award. the other awards she truly deserved. I think it was a combination of all these factors myself. Different voters have different agendas. Taylor had her biggest year of her career when she won FV. The whole Kanye incident occurred. And, I do think some voters may have felt Carrie wasn't ready to join Martina and Reba as the artists with the most FV wins only four years into her career. So, with all these factors combined, Taylor won FV. And, just to make it clear with everyone, I never said I wanted Sara to win. I want Carrie to win. And, I know Sara had only one hit. But I think what summed it up perfectly when he mentioned that breakout years are often focused on one song only (not always). As I said, Sara is not a new artist. She is a veteran. I know FV isn't supposed to be a lifetime achievement awards, but also, as I said, voters are not going to sit down and look over all the statistics for the past year. Sara's story inspired people. Sure, she didn't have the biggest year, but she had a good one after she faced hardships in her life. People love that. I read on this board from someone that Carrie herself votes for friends or who she feels deserves it (not necessarily based on actual statistics). I'm sticking by what I said. If I wasn't a big Carrie fan ever since the beginning of her career, I would want Sara to win myself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2011 13:41:05 GMT -5
Uhhh... Where was Carrie last night?
Look at this video and tell me if you really think Carrie is there. At first, when I watched another video, I thought it was just a hologram, but after watching this one, it looks to me like Carrie attended Brad's concert in Tampa, Florida last night and performed "Remind Me" on stage with him.
I don't know, it just looks way too real. Maybe it's a hologram, but you can clearly see two people lit up on the stage below the jumbo-screen behind them, and when Brad walks across the stage doing his guitar solo, you can see a pair of (very fit) legs behind him.
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Post by Typo on Sept 10, 2011 15:46:15 GMT -5
Not Carrie. IDK exactly what is going on but I think there's a hologram on the center stage which is then being projected onto some type of back-drop above the stage. Whatever the case it seems to be working out well - I've noticed a lot of tweets from concert-goers thinking it's the real deal.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2011 16:12:34 GMT -5
Not Carrie. IDK exactly what is going on but I think there's a hologram on the center stage which is then being projected onto some type of back-drop above the stage. Whatever the case it seems to be working out well - I've noticed a lot of tweets from concert-goers thinking it's the real deal. Thanks. Yeah, it looks very realistic, so bravo to the tech team that put that together! Such a tease for the concert-goers, though. Kind of like the Randy Travis thing at the PO Tour. EDIT: Yup, new video came onto YouTube, and it's a hologram, but damn; they made that thing look like the real deal! And Carrie looks gorgeous, as per usual.
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Post by cufan7 on Sept 10, 2011 16:13:26 GMT -5
Uhhh... Where was Carrie last night? Look at this video and tell me if you really think Carrie is there. At first, when I watched another video, I thought it was just a hologram, but after watching this one, it looks to me like Carrie attended Brad's concert in Tampa, Florida last night and performed "Remind Me" on stage with him. I don't know, it just looks way too real. Maybe it's a hologram, but you can clearly see two people lit up on the stage below the jumbo-screen behind them, and when Brad walks across the stage doing his guitar solo, you can see a pair of (very fit) legs behind him. That was so cool. I was wondering how they were going to do that.
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Post by countrybamafan on Sept 10, 2011 16:27:50 GMT -5
Yea, it's not Carrie. Anyway, I haven't posted much here lately. Just wanted to add that even though Remind Me only had 1 week at #1, I am still pleased at how well-received it's been. Another #1 single for Carrie! I'll take it! And, even though I'm dying to hear new Carrie music, I can wait if it means this next album is going to be incredible.
I also agree with what that I don't want Carrie to try to please the critics. Fans come before critics. If the album is good enough, critics will hop on board. She just needs to choose great songs. Play On had some really great songs (though a couple of the single choices didn't really showcase it). I just hope the next album takes it to a whole new level (PLEASE NO KARA!!!)
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Post by countrygirl918 on Sept 10, 2011 19:56:36 GMT -5
I wonder if Carrie will ever introduce a hologram version of Brad to do Remind Me at some of her shows?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2011 20:07:25 GMT -5
Amen. Thank goodness there haven't been many co-writes to pop up involving her.
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Post by Typo on Sept 10, 2011 21:17:23 GMT -5
It's still so weird to me how Carrie, Luke, Kara, & Marti wrote three songs in a 5 hour long session - "I Like Me Better (Without You)," "Mama's Song," & "Undo It" - and two of those not only managed to make the album but also get released as singles to radio.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2011 22:56:45 GMT -5
It's still so weird to me how Carrie, Luke, Kara, & Marti wrote three songs in a 5 hour long session - "I Like Me Better (Without You)," "Mama's Song," & "Undo It" - and two of those not only managed to make the album but also get released as singles to radio. I'm curious to see I Like Me Better (Without You)'s lyrics. I'd love to know if it's just like UI and MS in the sense that it's incredibly weak lyrically. Everything Kara seems to write looks and sounds like a large cliché. I just really, really hope there's no Kara on the album. And, if there is, it better be quality work. I love UI's beat, hook, and catchiness and I love MS's gorgeous vocals, but I don't want to see lyrically-weak songs like those on the next album if they're taking a longer amount of time for the album than usual.
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Post by freeman on Sept 10, 2011 23:46:20 GMT -5
The title "I like me better (Without You)" totally reminds me of "I look so good (without you)" by Jessie James. . . Just a random thought.
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