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Post by Mack on May 28, 2011 12:30:37 GMT -5
Forgettable era? Both Mine" and "Back to December" peaked in the top 10 on Hot 100 Airplay, and "Mean" is another country top 10- so let's not cry for Ms. Swift just because has not scored a multi-format smash along the lines of "Love Story" or "You Belong with Me." :) Exactly. I think Choco just meant that he finds the singles released this era to be forgettable in terms of their musicality, though. |
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Post by d.t.m on May 28, 2011 12:43:29 GMT -5
If Adele's song and album can hang on top for just a little longer she's won the hotly contested pop diva race of 2011 hands down and also positions herself as the one to beat for AOTY. It's pretty remarkable for an artist like her to be receiving this type of mainstream success. Gaga will debut huge, but the album's longevity is still in question if she doesn't get another radio smash. I'd say Katy's pretty much even with Rihanna and then we have Britney then P!nk, etc. in terms of overall impact as we head into the middle of the year. |
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Post by Honeymoon on May 28, 2011 13:35:28 GMT -5
Looks like radio isn't all that thrilled with "The Story of Us" as of right now. This has been a pretty forgatable era for Swift in terms of singles. Indeed, you have to wonder how much it would've sold if it had "Love Story" and "YBWM" sized hits on it. |
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Post by fridayteenage on May 28, 2011 16:52:52 GMT -5
Hmm, if things don't pick up this could be her floppiest promoted single. How disappointing; I quite like it.
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Post by imbondz on May 28, 2011 16:55:15 GMT -5
it's so dumb how you refer to one album as an era.
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Post by Glove Slap on May 28, 2011 18:17:35 GMT -5
KATY PERRY - Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.): 4.737 (+ 0.649) Are you Guys Ready. Katy Coming For her Third Summer Smash. You might mean 4th... (Billboard ranked WUIV as the 10th biggest hit of Summer 2009 :'() |
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Post by Mack on May 28, 2011 19:02:00 GMT -5
Hmm, if things don't pick up this could be her floppiest promoted single. How disappointing; I quite like it. Oh, well...country is still Taylor's primary format, and her latest single there was/is a hit. I won't be too disappointed if 'The Story of Us' fails to smash. |
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Post by neverduplicated on May 29, 2011 2:20:12 GMT -5
Hmm, if things don't pick up this could be her floppiest promoted single. How disappointing; I quite like it. Oh, well...country is still Taylor's primary format, and her latest single there was/is a hit. I won't be too disappointed if 'The Story of Us' fails to smash. I think Taylor's music sounds incredibly out of place on Mainstream radio. It's incredible both "Mine" and "Back to December" peaked as high as they did considering there's been nothing else remotely country on top 40. I expected "The Story of Us" to outperform those two singles on top 40 because it's faster and a bit less country... but looks like it might not go as high. |
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Post by pokepikalem on May 29, 2011 10:29:14 GMT -5
sorry, i wasn't following Taylor's singles for quite a while. Just check on Allaccess, so "Mean" is a country single and "The Story of Us" is a top 40 single right?
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Post by ListenToItTwice on May 29, 2011 10:31:45 GMT -5
it's so dumb how you refer to one album as an era. ... a lot of us do |
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 29, 2011 10:33:34 GMT -5
^Correct. Not sure if "The Story of Us" was promoted to Hot AC- it's not currently in the Mediabase top 40 there.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 10:37:27 GMT -5
^Correct. Not sure if "The Story of Us" was promoted to Hot AC- it's not currently in the Mediabase top 40 there. It's currently top 50 on hot ac. 46 44 TAYLOR SWIFT The Story Of Us 323 286 37 1.745 If it stalls, her label should wait until Mean peaks in the next few weeks on country and send out Sparks Fly to all the formats. If any song is capable of being that YBWM/LS sized hit of the record, it's that song. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 29, 2011 10:41:16 GMT -5
Isn't "Mean" the most country-sounding of tracks on the album, though? Then again, "Love Story" and "You Belong with Me" were big country hits.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 10:44:18 GMT -5
Isn't "Mean" the most country-sounding of tracks on the album, though? Then again, "Love Story" and "You Belong with Me" were big country hits. You are right about Mean being the most country-sounding track on the record. What makes Sparks Fly so accessible is that it's country enough to be a possibly #1 on the country chart, yet catchy enough to be a possible top 5 pop hit. |
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Post by pokepikalem on May 29, 2011 10:45:22 GMT -5
thanks for the answer, i was pretty confused when i saw the video of TSOF. I was like, so early? So her label is aiming for a sizable top 40 hit to revive the era.
Agreed with "Sparks Fly" to all formats.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 29, 2011 12:08:11 GMT -5
Why would an album NOT be considered an era?
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Post by ListenToItTwice on May 29, 2011 12:25:02 GMT -5
Why would an album NOT be considered an era? Maybe he means an era is a longer stretch of an artist's career? Like Britney's first four albums would be considered an "era" of her career and the most recent three would be another? Doesn't make much sense for the way we use the term, but some people may use it that way. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 12:54:51 GMT -5
I can understand both sides. Like, I get why if an an artist releases albums in short time span or with a specific sound I get why a 4 year-period can be called an "era" for them. Like Britney Spears first four albums like wolf said.
But for artists that change up their sounds drastically every album I can get why each album is called an era, like say Rihanna whose image changes frequently.
Meh, it just depends on what people like to classify it as. There's no wrong way to look at it.
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Post by DJ General on May 29, 2011 14:43:21 GMT -5
it's so dumb how you refer to one album as an era. That's how you do it. ??? |
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Post by stanr on May 29, 2011 17:24:47 GMT -5
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1. ADELE - Rolling In The Deep: 151.048 (+ 0.921)
2. KATY PERRY - E.T.: 147.727 (- 0.772)
3. BLACK EYED PEAS - Just Can't Get Enough: 115.293 (- 0.728)
4. BRITNEY SPEARS - Till The World Ends: 95.589 (- 1.179)
5. PITBULL - Give Me Everything f/Ne-Yo: 92.918 (+ 2.247)
6. BRUNO MARS - Lazy Song: 87.012 (+ 0.412)
7. JENNIFER LOPEZ f/ PITBULL - On The Floor: 86.389 (- 0.241)
8. LUPE FIASCO - The Show Goes On: 75.999 (- 0.791)
9. CHRIS BROWN - Look At Me Now: 69.415 (- 0.970)
10. JEREMIH - Down On Me f/50 Cent: 68.192 (- 1.229)
11. WIZ KHALIFA - Roll Up: 68.191 (- 0.064)
12. RIHANNA - S&M: 61.643 (- 0.389)
13. PINK - F**kin' Perfect (Perfect): 59.926 (- 0.818)
14. TINIE TEMPAH - Written In The Stars f/ETurner: 59.193 (- 1.427)
15. THE SCRIPT - For The First Time: 58.378 (- 1.272)
16. CEE LO GREEN - F**k You (Forget You): 57.142 (- 1.390)
17. BRAD PAISLEY - Old Alabama f/Alabama: 51.962 (- 0.435)
18. KE$HA - Blow: 51.265 (- 0.950)
19. KELLY ROWLAND - Motivation f/Lil Wayne: 50.258 (- 0.121)
20. BRUNO MARS - Just The Way You Are: 49.865 (- 1.091)
RASCAL FLATTS - I Won't Let Go: 47.379 (- 1.446)
KEITH URBAN - Without You: 46.959 (+ 0.236)
CHRIS BROWN - She Ain't You: 44.010 (- 0.312)
MIGUEL - Sure Thing: 43.775 (- 0.735)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Mean: 43.629 (+ 0.435)
BIG SEAN - My Last f/Chris Brown: 41.598 (- 0.236)
THE BAND PERRY - You Lie: 40.235 (+ 0.113)
LADY GAGA - The Edge Of Glory: 37.018 (+ 1.199)
LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem: 35.444 (+ 1.770)
JESSIE J - Price Tag f/B.O.B: 34.757 (- 0.804)
NEW BOYZ - Back Seat f/Cataracs & Dev: 33.773 (- 0.441)
ONEREPUBLIC - Good Life: 30.877 (+ 0.678)
NICKI MINAJ - Super Bass: 28.266 (+ 0.376)
JASON DERULO - Don't Wanna Go Home: 26.900 (+ 1.198)
SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE - Who Says: 25.416 (- 0.346)
LADY ANTEBELLUM - Just A Kiss: 24.313 (+ 0.752)
MARTIN SOLVEIG & DRAGONETTE - Hello: 22.702 (- 0.003)
MAROON 5 - Never Gonna Leave This Bed: 22.625 (+ 0.006)
HOT CHELLE RAE - Tonight Tonight: 19.824 (+ 0.580)
FOO FIGHTERS - Rope: 19.364 (- 0.491)
TREY SONGZ - Unusual f/Drake: 19.223 (+ 0.137)
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS - Dirty Dancer f/Usher/Lil Wayne: 18.235 (+ 0.944)
BEYONCE - Run The World (Girls): 17.130 (- 0.240)
MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE - Sing: 16.612 (- 0.221)
TAYLOR SWIFT - The Story Of Us: 16.475 (+ 0.347)
RIHANNA - Man Down: 15.308 (- 0.056)
DAVID GUETTA/FLO RIDA/NICKI M. - Where Them Girls At: 10.965 (+ 0.331)
RIHANNA - California King Bed: 8.719 (+ 0.359)
NICOLE SCHERZINGER - Right There: 6.833 (+ 1.211)
JENNIFER LOPEZ - I'm Into You f/Lil Wayne: 6.225 (+ 0.078)
KATY PERRY - Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.): 5.980 (+ 0.607)
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 29, 2011 17:29:10 GMT -5
I am annoyed with Taylor's single choices. It feels like they have deliberately chosen songs that won't do that well or become LS/YBWM sized. I know people seem to love The Story of Us and think it would be that type of hit, but eh, no. It never sounded like a smash to me. Maybe she is just focused on country this album though?
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Post by David on May 29, 2011 17:31:21 GMT -5
^Or maybe people are just getting tired of her schtick? I know I am.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 17:35:58 GMT -5
I am annoyed with Taylor's single choices. It feels like they have deliberately chosen songs that won't do that well or become LS/YBWM sized. I know people seem to love The Story of Us and think it would be that type of hit, but eh, no. It never sounded like a smash to me. Maybe she is just focused on country this album though? I had a bad feeling when they choose Story of Us as the pop single. I was never really crazy about it but grew to like it. Better Than Revenge should have been the third pop single. This is what I'd do: End of June: Sparks Fly (all formats) Beginning of November: Better Than Revenge (POP/HAC/AC), Speak Now (Country) |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 29, 2011 18:34:49 GMT -5
Fame Hooker-she has better songs on her cd though. I feel like she is falling slightly into Carrie Underwood territory where they are releasing really safe "no-brainer" singles that are so safe they just cannot have the impact that a great, but slightly outside the box release would have. Both girls have great cds, great songs, and enough fire to pull off great songs-both of their labels need to realize this! Maybe they will pretend like The Story of Us never happened and move on from it?  |
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Post by Lockheart on May 29, 2011 18:43:31 GMT -5
17/20 songs in the top 20 have peaked while the other two are on the verge of peaking
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Post by badrobot on May 29, 2011 19:17:11 GMT -5
^in fact ALL of 7-20 are declining. The top 20 is in desperate need of some new life.
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Post by Mark on May 29, 2011 19:42:30 GMT -5
I think that after Memorial Day weekend the chart will see a lot of movement. Alot of the songs in the top 20 will plummet and the summer songs will FINALLY start to really take off - Last Friday Night, Super Bass, etc.
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on May 29, 2011 19:44:34 GMT -5
NICOLE SCHERZINGER - Right There: 6.833 (+ 1.211)
KATY PERRY - Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.): 5.980 (+ 0.607)
Yes at these two increasing.
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Post by #brayden on May 29, 2011 19:51:33 GMT -5
I think people set their expectations too high for Taylor on the pop format. Coming off two singles that didn't crack the Top 10... it seemed obvious that 'The Story Of Us' would have performed about the same, if that even.
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Post by slw84 on May 29, 2011 20:00:25 GMT -5
I can understand both sides. Like, I get why if an an artist releases albums in short time span or with a specific sound I get why a 4 year-period can be called an "era" for them. Like Britney Spears first four albums like wolf said. But for artists that change up their sounds drastically every album I can get why each album is called an era, like say Rihanna whose image changes frequently. Meh, it just depends on what people like to classify it as. There's no wrong way to look at it. I would say that baby one more time and oidia can be looked at as an era based on similar style of.music. Britney was a transitional album...in the zone was her experimental college years...I don't see how any of these albums can be clumped together. But if you all are going to do it...that would make the most sense. I still believe each album era has a different mission and objective for.most artists which is why I call each album its individual era...but whatever. |
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