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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 8:39:27 GMT -5
I've never listened to any of their previous material but I may have to after listening to "Something New". YES! The Show is my favorite but I love like 95% of their stuff lol
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Post by strikeleo on Oct 20, 2012 8:46:19 GMT -5
The reason why Cheryl is more succesful has nothing to do with presence or talent, though. She got lucky she got the X Factor deal and really played the PR game to call some attention to herself. As a natural proccess, people became interested in her. I mean, I bet if Nadine had gotten the X Factor deal she would've managed to be just as successful, too.
Also, I too think Nadine was the most featured one. Cheryl really wasn't, in my opinion.
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Post by picklerclarkson on Oct 20, 2012 11:06:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure Nadine would be as successful as Cheryl. Nadine comes off almost as trying to hard to be sexy while Cheryl does it naturally.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Oct 20, 2012 17:33:11 GMT -5
I've never listened to any of their previous material but I may have to after listening to "Something New". YES! The Show is my favorite but I love like 95% of their stuff lol I love 'The Show'. It was stuck in my head all day today for some reason. In other news the girls are letting the fans pick the deluxe edition track listing. 'Graffiti My Soul' is surprisingly low while 'Girl Overboard' is in the top tree (as of yesterday maybe it changed today ) Edit: And 'Life Got Cold' just enterted the Top 10. :yes:
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Post by Jack on Oct 21, 2012 13:56:53 GMT -5
The thing about Nadine is, for seven years she was Girls Aloud. Their whole sound was defined and entirely relied on her voice. Not only her technical proficiency, but her tone and phrasing is so distinctive and representative of their music that it's safe to say that they wouldn't have been even a tenth as successful without her. Cheryl may have had three years of a successful solo career, but Nadine spear-headed and was the sound of a more successful girlband for seven.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 15:31:20 GMT -5
I wouldn't have recognized Sarah. Its been so long since she had long hair, lol.
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Post by BadRomance on Oct 21, 2012 17:57:15 GMT -5
'Something New' is the first track I hear from them and it's catchy as hell. Pure pop, I love it!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2012 7:07:08 GMT -5
The disc 2 tracklisting is as follows: 1. Graffiti My Soul 2. Wake Me Up 3. Wild Horses 4. Swinging London Town 5. Whole Lotta History 6. Crazy Fool 7. Girl Overboard 8. Black Jacks 9. Hoxton Heroes 10. Memory Of You www.girlsaloud.com/news/2148Memory Of You received the most votes. Memory Of You, Graffiti My Soul, and Girl Overboard are in my top 5 favorite GA songs so glad to see them there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 22:31:44 GMT -5
I seriously love SN more with each listen. Hope this is huge.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Oct 25, 2012 23:11:47 GMT -5
This is hot as hell.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Oct 25, 2012 23:13:56 GMT -5
The disc 2 tracklisting is as follows: 1. Graffiti My Soul 2. Wake Me Up 3. Wild Horses 4. Swinging London Town 5. Whole Lotta History 6. Crazy Fool 7. Girl Overboard 8. Black Jacks 9. Hoxton Heroes 10. Memory Of You www.girlsaloud.com/news/2148Memory Of You received the most votes. Memory Of You, Graffiti My Soul, and Girl Overboard are in my top 5 favorite GA songs so glad to see them there. Very happy that 'Girl Overboard' made the tracklist and 'Crazy Fool' is one of my favorites, even if it is just Cheryl. I'm sad there's no 'Life Got Cold'. :'(
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Post by bryce on Oct 26, 2012 0:26:01 GMT -5
The thing about Nadine is, for seven years she was Girls Aloud. Their whole sound was defined and entirely relied on her voice. Not only her technical proficiency, but her tone and phrasing is so distinctive and representative of their music that it's safe to say that they wouldn't have been even a tenth as successful without her. Cheryl may have had three years of a successful solo career, but Nadine spear-headed and was the sound of a more successful girlband for seven. You know what come to think of it you might be right. But I think that because her voice was so distinctly Girls Aloud, the public had a hard time seeing her as a solo artist, which is why she didn't become as big as she clearly wanted to be. Cheryl, on the other hand, played her cards right and just had the right things happen to her at the right time. And I always saw her as the underdog, which is why I wasn't surprised when they announced that she'd be on X Factor.
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Post by Janhova's Witness on Oct 28, 2012 21:54:42 GMT -5
Oh, "Something New" has grown on me a bit. But I love the Alias remix. Let me hop on board with this rq.
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Post by discoloser on Nov 3, 2012 23:41:25 GMT -5
I like SN, but dont love it.
I do plan on importing 'Ten' though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 14:21:23 GMT -5
New song premiering tomorrow.
@girlsaloud First play of #BeautifulCauseYouLoveMe is on @bbcradio2 tomorrow at 11.30
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Nov 12, 2012 15:09:59 GMT -5
We can be real and say that being a footballer's (ex) wife + being the favorite judge on Britain's favorite television show at the time + the right song in 'Fight For This Love' = huge star. The stars just perfectly aligned for Cheryl and it was certainly a bit lucky for a girl that truthfully has terrible luck.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 17:45:44 GMT -5
The thing about Nadine is, for seven years she was Girls Aloud. Their whole sound was defined and entirely relied on her voice. Not only her technical proficiency, but her tone and phrasing is so distinctive and representative of their music that it's safe to say that they wouldn't have been even a tenth as successful without her. Cheryl may have had three years of a successful solo career, but Nadine spear-headed and was the sound of a more successful girlband for seven. I literally disagree with all of this to the point that I have to wonder if you actually are Nadine. These are levels of delusion only matched by what Christina thinks of herself. You know what come to think of it you might be right. But I think that because her voice was so distinctly Girls Aloud, the public had a hard time seeing her as a solo artist, which is why she didn't become as big as she clearly wanted to be. Cheryl, on the other hand, played her cards right and just had the right things happen to her at the right time. And I always saw her as the underdog, which is why I wasn't surprised when they announced that she'd be on X Factor. This too. The idea that Nadine has enough of a public image for people to even consciously make a decision about her as a person is insane to me. I legitimately think most people wouldn't recognise her outside the context of the band; she's certainly the least famous member. That x poorly received music x Tesco is why she flopped.
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Post by Jack on Nov 12, 2012 18:09:28 GMT -5
The thing about Nadine is, for seven years she was Girls Aloud. Their whole sound was defined and entirely relied on her voice. Not only her technical proficiency, but her tone and phrasing is so distinctive and representative of their music that it's safe to say that they wouldn't have been even a tenth as successful without her. Cheryl may have had three years of a successful solo career, but Nadine spear-headed and was the sound of a more successful girlband for seven. I literally disagree with all of this to the point that I have to wonder if you actually are Nadine. These are levels of delusion only matched by what Christina thinks of herself. Busted. Well, agree or disagree all you want, literally or figuratively, during my time in the band I sang most of the vocals on the singles. Fact. All the most successful musical moments throughout our career are all laced with my (pretty distinctive) vocals. Again, disagree that our band has so far been more successful than Cheryl's solo career till you're blue in the face. I think it's so far pretty inarguable. Anyway, please buy our new single, it's out next week.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 18:20:32 GMT -5
Did you though? I know this is embarrassing for a British, music messageboard-using homosexual to admit Nadine, but I always thought your voices ran together most of the time and was under the impression that you split verses fairly equally (as in 30% you, 25% Nicola, 25% Cheryl 'National Treasure' Cole, 20% other).
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Post by Jack on Nov 12, 2012 18:33:34 GMT -5
Did you though? I know this is embarrassing for a British, music messageboard-using homosexual to admit Nadine, but I always thought your voices ran together most of the time and was under the impression that you split verses fairly equally (as in 30% you, 25% Nicola, 25% Cheryl 'National Treasure' Cole, 20% other). Well if you think the lead vocals of Girl's Aloud's singles were shared roughly between Me, Cheryl and the ginger one, I don't know what to say. I think Cheryl referred to me as the lead singer a whole bunch of times in her book, certainly. So it's me and national treasure that are delusional. And google images. Tell you what, I'll send a signed copy of Insatiable as a gesture of good faith.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 18:45:45 GMT -5
Well if you think the lead vocals of Girl's Aloud's singles were shared roughly between Me, Cheryl and the ginger one, I don't know what to say. I think Cheryl referred to me as the lead singer a whole bunch of times in her book, certainly. So it's me and national treasure that are delusional. And google images. I apologise then. Like I said, your voices seem to run together to me even on the songs where one of you has half a line, then the next has half a line, etc. I don't know what photos have to do with vocals, but you're clearly more knowledgeable than me on this so you call the shats. Tell you what, I'll send a signed copy of Insatiable as a gesture of good faith. Still got all those unsold copies lying around, eh?
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Post by strikeleo on Nov 12, 2012 20:07:55 GMT -5
Honestly, though, refusing Nadine had more presence and was basically the lead singer on the records is just as delusional as you claim others to be. I've known this band for quite a while (before Cole became a judge on the X Factor), to know that pretty much everybody agreed that Nadine had the spotlight.
Also, put anyone on Cheryl's position and I'd bet they would be just as successful, if not more, than she is (I don't exactly consider Cheryl to be that successful, either, because she isn't a great album seller, at all).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 20:24:17 GMT -5
I'm not denying Nadine had the most presence at all. I'm saying it's completely ridiculous to say she was Girls Aloud. Honestly, Jack's first post on this page bears no resemblance to the group I know and I had to check I wasn't in the Kelly Clarkson thread because nobody talks about range or technical proficiency when they talk about Girls Aloud. It just all seems so irrelevant. And to say they wouldn't have had a tenth of their success without Nadine isn't even an opinion, it's just plain wrong.
I'm not saying all this because I'm a Cheryl stan either by the way, if that's what your second paragraph is meant to imply.
To put it another way, it's like with the Spice Girls. Obviously Mel C dominated to a certain extent because that's the nature of her voice, but I wouldn't consider them to have had a lead singer and I wouldn't say she spearheaded their success, even though she was the most technically proficient singer. Maybe you'd both disagree, but if that's the case then I'd at least understand where you're coming from with this Nadine talk.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Nov 12, 2012 21:17:53 GMT -5
Without Nadine, GA would have sounded like a bunch of brokedown hobos singing on the corner for change. She pretty much saved them from being completely mediocre. Especially since most of them are pretty forgettable on the personality and vocal front (I can never even remember the names of two of the chicks). The Spice Girls weren't amazing singers, but they all had personality and were marketed as individuals where everyone could pick a fav.
Cheryl had the perfect storm for success. She's very pretty/sexy, being married to a footballer got her a ton of press, the X-Factor gig. Everything worked in her favor. It certainly wasn't because she was the most talented, she just had the smarts to make what little she had work for her. Can't blame her for that. But Nadine is far more essential to making the group work than Cheryl ever was.
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Post by Jack on Nov 13, 2012 6:23:36 GMT -5
OK, I have to wrestle the laptop away from Nads for a few minutes to give my two cents.
Nadine was the lead singer of Girls Aloud. That seems clear to me, to Cheryl, to Nadine herself, to Brian Higgins and the rest of the Xenomania team who would get her in to cut vocals for the whole song, and then bring in the other girls to do their lines. What is also clear to me is that Girls Aloud's musical success worked from a formula. Zany structures, odd lyrics, and distinctive vocals. And I know, I know, it's only Kelly Clarkson fans on Pulse that place more value on the vocalist than the key grip in a Pop music act. Regardless, whether it seems that way to you, to me (and it seems many others) the body of their work was carried by Nadine's (undeniably far superior) vocals. You even sort of demonstrated my point, when you told Nadine that she called the "shats". Her odd accent and distinctive tone typified Girls Aloud's sound to me. "I'm just a leuuv machine", "A gat one Alabama reuturrrynn", all of No Good Advice. It's hardly something that can be proved either way, but I just don't see the band having had nearly the success without her vocals. Even when she's singing with the others on the choruses, she's clearly mixed so much higher than everybody else that's it's only her phrasing that one hears. I don't think it's the same as Melanie C and the Spice Girls. Not least because their vocals were actually far more divided, and has been pointed out, in terms of personality they were all far bigger characters.
Nadine being the least famous member, whether true or not, doesn't have much to do with whether or not just was a key part in their musical success. Sarah's drunken snaps or Cheryl punching toilet attendants certainly weren't. I also cannot deny Cheryl's subsequent success and charisma, but I do think that her success was mostly a mixture of good management, good timing, good luck and opportunity. Maybe because I was always a fan of Nadine's singing voice it's just something I noticed more, rather than just being a passive extra, but she was prevalent in almost every single they every released, and to me that prevalence was an essential component in the formula that made them work.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 6:48:51 GMT -5
Don't hear much Nadine.
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Post by Jack on Nov 13, 2012 6:59:48 GMT -5
^ I know! I was just about to post that. What a coincidence that that should come around now.
At least it answers the question about what Girls Aloud would sound like without her :x
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 7:09:37 GMT -5
Hear Me Out and Whole Lotta History remain my favorite Aloud ballads. It's not terrible but it's just so bland. Lots of Nicola though so yay for that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 7:16:59 GMT -5
Ok, so I was starting to write out a long reply when I realised that, in the most respectful way, I don't care. I was aware messageboards and non-British fans had always favoured Nadine, but I'd literally never seen it to the extent of what this page has turned into. I maintain that Nadine wasn't responsible for their sound or success, largely because I can't remember the last pop group where the individual members had less to do with the overall sound or success. But we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
Oh, and the new single is awful. Actual ballads have never been their strong point.
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Post by Jack on Nov 13, 2012 7:19:50 GMT -5
The ballad is terrible. Those vocals man. I mean, paper thin doesn't even cover it.
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