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Post by Au$tin on May 18, 2015 21:27:54 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. Nobody is buying a number one! Bad Blood's tactics are nothing new at all and is in fact just fucking promotion and See You Again is not exploiting a death. That's such a ridiculous statement I can't even stand reading it anymore. Besides, you can only do so much to get a song to do something on the charts. Both songs are actually doing insanely well, meaning they are connecting with their audiences, so people love them, and songs that connect well with their audiences are the ones that become hits.
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Post by Future Captain on May 18, 2015 22:29:06 GMT -5
Could we change Chart Discussion into Mark G.'s stanning/meltdown board? It's kind of painful to see, tbh.
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Post by Mikey on May 18, 2015 22:34:59 GMT -5
But seriously, what can you do except checking Billboard for updates on Wednesday/Thursday ? There isn't any point discussing which song should be at #1.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 23:01:48 GMT -5
Could we change Chart Discussion into Mark G.'s stanning/meltdown board? It's kind of painful to see, tbh. As if I'm the only one who stans for a particular song or gets upset. And I was simply making a counterargument towards brucelover's comment because I can't see how anyone could possibly think Bad Blood is "buying" a #1 while SYA isn't. There is LITERALLY no difference between the two tactics (except that one involves the deceased) as the argument there is that both somehow involve manipulating consumers for maximum profit. I wasn't the one who said ANYONE was buying a #1. That was brucelover. Yet somehow I'm the bad guy for using the EXACT SAME fucking argument.
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Post by Future Captain on May 18, 2015 23:06:31 GMT -5
Could we change Chart Discussion into Mark G.'s stanning/meltdown board? It's kind of painful to see, tbh. As if I'm the only one who stans for a particular song or gets upset. And I was simply making a counterargument towards brucelover's comment because I can't see how anyone could possibly think Bad Blood is "buying" a #1 while SYA isn't. There is LITERALLY no difference between the two tactics (except that one involves the deceased) as the argument there is that both somehow involve manipulating consumers for maximum profit. I wasn't the one who said ANYONE was buying a #1. That was brucelover. Yet somehow I'm the bad guy for using the EXACT SAME f**king argument. You're not, I know. But you're the one that do it the most. Besides, isn't that's entire point of any business industry? To manipulate consumers for maximum profit through any way?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 23:13:50 GMT -5
As if I'm the only one who stans for a particular song or gets upset. And I was simply making a counterargument towards brucelover's comment because I can't see how anyone could possibly think Bad Blood is "buying" a #1 while SYA isn't. There is LITERALLY no difference between the two tactics (except that one involves the deceased) as the argument there is that both somehow involve manipulating consumers for maximum profit. I wasn't the one who said ANYONE was buying a #1. That was brucelover. Yet somehow I'm the bad guy for using the EXACT SAME f**king argument. You're not, I know. But you're the one that do it the most. Besides, isn't that's entire point of any business industry? To manipulate consumers for maximum profit through any way?Not really. Many songs run a very natural course on the charts. And promotion to radio isn't really something I would consider manipulation. I didn't mean to start anything. I was just replying to brucelover's comment about the producers of BB "buying" its way to #1. Don't get why everything often gets blown out of proportion around here.
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Post by Gary on May 18, 2015 23:20:22 GMT -5
Did you buy a copy of the download? I admit, I did. All the marketing in the world and scheming tactics are useless if people like you and me choose to not spend $1.29 to buy it. This song will likely go to #1 because it has Taylor Swift's name on it. Bad Blood remix by <insert name of any other artist> would have zero chance at #1. This producers didn't "buy" anything. Taylor Swift is the hottest artist in the industry right now. Anything with her name on it will likely go to #1.
I would have hoped you would be happy. The "cavalry" is here to (at least temporarily) knock down the song that deposed Uptown Funk.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 23:32:38 GMT -5
Did you buy a copy of the download? I admit, I did. All the marketing in the world and scheming tactics are useless if people like you and me choose to not spend $1.29 to buy it. This song will likely go to #1 because it has Taylor Swift's name on it. Bad Blood remix by <insert name of any other artist> would have zero chance at #1. This producers didn't "buy" anything. Taylor Swift is the hottest artist in the industry right now. Anything with her name on it will likely go to #1. I would have hoped you would be happy. The "cavalry" is here to (at least temporarily) knock down the song that deposed Uptown Funk. I would be happy about that. Where did you get the idea that I wouldn't? Lol I am NOT the one who said Taylor was buying a #1. That was the other guy.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 19, 2015 1:20:19 GMT -5
How is See You Again buying #1?! All they did originally was release the song. Even before the movie it was mid 30s-40s on iTunes. People are buying it, requesting it on radio, streaming it. People like it, and it is getting more activity than any other song, hence why it is #1. They could've set up the biggest promo, the biggest push at radio, the most amount of videos eligable for streaming, but if people don't like it, it won't go number 1. Of course you can stan some songs and hate others, but this is becoming obsessive, you're saying it in mulitple threads a lot. Idc but it is just getting annoying. Calm down, Trap Queen is #2 and I could not be more disgusted but just suck it up for the few weeks its popular. You just had your favourite song at #1 for +10 weeks. Be happy.
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Post by lyhom on May 19, 2015 4:09:18 GMT -5
jesus fuuuck the chart discussions thread can be painful to watch sometimes
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Post by Kris on May 19, 2015 4:10:50 GMT -5
Calling Walker's death being used as a cheap tactic to propel the song is one of the most ludicrous and disrespectful things I've ever heard
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Post by felipe on May 19, 2015 7:08:55 GMT -5
I understand they wanted to have a Paul Walker tribute song on the film, that's nice and expected, but to see Wiz performing the tribute song on The Voice or SNL to maximize sales... I find that kind of odd.
For instance, Glee did a tribute episode to Cory Monteith, and I think that's ok, but imagine if they had released an original song about him and started promoting it everywhere? Wouldn't it have been considered tasteless?
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Post by jenglisbe on May 19, 2015 7:36:00 GMT -5
Could we change Chart Discussion into Mark G.'s stanning/meltdown board? It's kind of painful to see, tbh. As if I'm the only one who stans for a particular song or gets upset. And I was simply making a counterargument towards brucelover's comment because I can't see how anyone could possibly think Bad Blood is "buying" a #1 while SYA isn't. There is LITERALLY no difference between the two tactics (except that one involves the deceased) as the argument there is that both somehow involve manipulating consumers for maximum profit. I wasn't the one who said ANYONE was buying a #1. That was brucelover. Yet somehow I'm the bad guy for using the EXACT SAME f**king argument. How is there no difference? "Bad Blood" is a remix of a song that already exists, whereas "SYA" is not a remix. "Bad Blood" is by the biggest pop star in the world right now, and the remix adds on one of the hottest rappers in the business. "SYA" has a chorus by someone who is basically unknown. "Bad Blood" had a world premiere at an awards show. "SYA" did not. "Bad Blood" video is also packed with celebrities and is thus sure to gain pop culture traction. You could argue that "SYA" has a parallel there because Paul Walker got it attention, but that's about the only parallel I see here. You are coming across as irrational and desperate, in case you care.
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Post by therealstan123 on May 19, 2015 11:33:27 GMT -5
Aww, I can't stand Bad Blood anymore, such a boring, annoying song. It's #1 with huge lead, has nothing special but Taylor Swift. Imo there are many songs better than BB, such as hey mama, SUAD, TQ, EI, WTWM or even PG. They deserve #1 but are blocked by some s*** like BB or SYA. The chart is becoming much more boring, with multiple 10+ weeks songs at #1. Taylor Swift is at her peak so there will be more and more overrated songs from her destroy the charts
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Post by badrobot on May 19, 2015 12:09:36 GMT -5
I thought this thread was about posting iTunes updates? As of right now, the top non-Voice songs are:
Taylor 1.000 Wiz 0.4628 Walk the Moon 0.2843
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Post by jenglisbe on May 19, 2015 12:41:19 GMT -5
I understand they wanted to have a Paul Walker tribute song on the film, that's nice and expected, but to see Wiz performing the tribute song on The Voice or SNL to maximize sales... I find that kind of odd. For instance, Glee did a tribute episode to Cory Monteith, and I think that's ok, but imagine if they had released an original song about him and started promoting it everywhere? Wouldn't it have been considered tasteless? At this point the song is bigger than Paul Walker. People are feeling it in their own way about their own situation. To limit the song to Paul Walker is to cheapen that.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 14:36:22 GMT -5
I thought this thread was about posting iTunes updates? As of right now, the top non-Voice songs are: Taylor 1.000 Wiz 0.4628 Walk the Moon 0.2843 Make that 1.1768 for Taylor and 0.4962 for Wiz (as of about two hours ago, it should update in a few minutes)
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Post by felipe on May 19, 2015 16:02:18 GMT -5
I understand they wanted to have a Paul Walker tribute song on the film, that's nice and expected, but to see Wiz performing the tribute song on The Voice or SNL to maximize sales... I find that kind of odd. For instance, Glee did a tribute episode to Cory Monteith, and I think that's ok, but imagine if they had released an original song about him and started promoting it everywhere? Wouldn't it have been considered tasteless? At this point the song is bigger than Paul Walker. People are feeling it in their own way about their own situation. To limit the song to Paul Walker is to cheapen that. Still, it doesn't seem very tasteful. If people are feeling the song in their own way, let them feel it, let the song run its course, but you don't need to be on SNL promoting a "tribute" song to generate more sales. Imagine Elton John going to talk sows and TV competition to promote Candle in the wind...
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Post by jenglisbe on May 20, 2015 8:13:34 GMT -5
At this point the song is bigger than Paul Walker. People are feeling it in their own way about their own situation. To limit the song to Paul Walker is to cheapen that. Still, it doesn't seem very tasteful. If people are feeling the song in their own way, let them feel it, let the song run its course, but you don't need to be on SNL promoting a "tribute" song to generate more sales. Imagine Elton John going to talk sows and TV competition to promote Candle in the wind... For one "CITW" was lyrically about Diana, whereas "SYA" is written in a general way and can be interpreted about anyone who has passed or even just moved away. It is no different than any writer who has written about someone who has passed; see One Sweet Day, Tears In Heaven, Vince Gill's classic Go Rest High on That Mountain, etc. They were all written about real people. I don't see why people are suddenly jumping on "SYA." Also, Elton John has performed "Candle in the Wind" - which was initially written about Marilyn Monroe - in various live settings.
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Post by Au$tin on May 20, 2015 11:15:56 GMT -5
Aww, I can't stand Bad Blood anymore, such a boring, annoying song. It's #1 with huge lead, has nothing special but Taylor Swift. Imo there are many songs better than BB, such as hey mama, SUAD, TQ, EI, WTWM or even PG. They deserve #1 but are blocked by some s*** like BB or SYA. The chart is becoming much more boring, with multiple 10+ weeks songs at #1. Taylor Swift is at her peak so there will be more and more overrated songs from her destroy the charts I'm starting to really hate that word. The song that DESERVES to be number one is the song that is selling the most. That is "Bad Blood."
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Post by felipe on May 20, 2015 14:54:18 GMT -5
Still, it doesn't seem very tasteful. If people are feeling the song in their own way, let them feel it, let the song run its course, but you don't need to be on SNL promoting a "tribute" song to generate more sales. Imagine Elton John going to talk sows and TV competition to promote Candle in the wind... For one "CITW" was lyrically about Diana, whereas "SYA" is written in a general way and can be interpreted about anyone who has passed or even just moved away. It is no different than any writer who has written about someone who has passed; see One Sweet Day, Tears In Heaven, Vince Gill's classic Go Rest High on That Mountain, etc. They were all written about real people. I don't see why people are suddenly jumping on "SYA." Also, Elton John has performed "Candle in the Wind" - which was initially written about Marilyn Monroe - in various live settings. I get your points, but it still doesn't seem right to me. Even to say the song outgrew Paul Walker and can now be seen as just a song about anyone seems disrespectful. The song was clearly about him from the get go, you can just watch the music video (a driving force behind the song's success) to see he might even be more featured in it than Khalifa himself. So to say now, that the song is already hit, that it can be a song about anyone sounds like "now the song is already a hit and we don't need Paul Walker to sell anymore, so we can just sing it like a general song about anyone and perform it on SNL or something." And I'm ok with Elton John performing the original Candle in the wind, but I'd find it odd to go to his concert and see him perform Candle in the wind '97. Like "why is he performing the Diana tribute song without a special reason to?"
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Post by jenglisbe on May 20, 2015 15:26:35 GMT -5
For one "CITW" was lyrically about Diana, whereas "SYA" is written in a general way and can be interpreted about anyone who has passed or even just moved away. It is no different than any writer who has written about someone who has passed; see One Sweet Day, Tears In Heaven, Vince Gill's classic Go Rest High on That Mountain, etc. They were all written about real people. I don't see why people are suddenly jumping on "SYA." Also, Elton John has performed "Candle in the Wind" - which was initially written about Marilyn Monroe - in various live settings. I get your points, but it still doesn't seem right to me. Even to say the song outgrew Paul Walker and can now be seen as just a song about anyone seems disrespectful. The song was clearly about him from the get go, you can just watch the music video (a driving force behind the song's success) to see he might even be more featured in it than Khalifa himself. So to say now, that the song is already hit, that it can be a song about anyone sounds like "now the song is already a hit and we don't need Paul Walker to sell anymore, so we can just sing it like a general song about anyone and perform it on SNL or something." And I'm ok with Elton John performing the original Candle in the wind, but I'd find it odd to go to his concert and see him perform Candle in the wind '97. Like "why is he performing the Diana tribute song without a special reason to?" One of the writers of the song said he wrote his part about someone from his own life (i.e. not Paul Walker), so that's an incorrect statement. Another song about a celebrity who died is Diana Ross' "Missing You." Do people have a problem with that one, too? I just don't get why missing someone and paying tribute to them isn't a "special enough reason" to perform a song. Musicians create music out of their own experiences, and they then share them with the hopes that people can relate. I don't get why people seem to think "SYA" is worse than "Bad Blood" where a remix, radio deal, and well-timed video release and promotion were clearly done to make the song a bigger hit than it would have been. I don't care about that, but it was so clearly geared to get a #1 that it's more gratuitous than anything with "SYA."
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Post by Kris on May 21, 2015 10:42:05 GMT -5
Uptown funk at #84...?
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Post by Mikel Echarri on May 21, 2015 10:58:26 GMT -5
iTunes deleted the single version
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Post by Au$tin on May 23, 2015 18:33:01 GMT -5
Pitch Perfect 2 music is climbing again. Looks like another powerful weekend for it in the box office!
35. Jessie J - Flashlight 52. The Barden Bellas - World Championship Finale 2 85. Das Sound Machine, Tone Hangers, The Barden Bellas, Green Bay Packers & The Treblemakers - Riff Off
Other notes: "Cheerleader" is top 20 at #19. "Worth It" about to enter the top ten. "Bad Blood (Remix)" is still falling, but "See You Again" is starting to fall faster. The gap has widened again. "Shut Up + Dance" gaining, though trailing still at nearly 1:2 ratio. "Uptown Funk" is still on the rise as the album version replaces the single version. Currently at #14. "Geronimo" is on the rise, posting heavy gains for the past 12 hours.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 24, 2015 7:44:18 GMT -5
10. Fifth Harmony - Worth It (feat. Kid Ink) 0.3232
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Post by Gary on May 28, 2015 17:48:30 GMT -5
May have a new #1 soon
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Post by Dylan :) on May 28, 2015 18:03:07 GMT -5
What is The Weekend song about?
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Post by Kurt on May 28, 2015 22:58:51 GMT -5
Chance The Rapper's new project Surf, billed as Donnie Trumpet & The Social Experiment, is now on iTunes for free download. 16 tracks; guests (all uncredited) include Erykah Badu, J. Cole, and Big Sean.
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Post by maine on May 28, 2015 23:03:49 GMT -5
Downloading now. At least they didn't force it onto everyone's phones this time lol.
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