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Post by GRRR on Aug 29, 2011 23:44:45 GMT -5
That's fair, House. I know it's the guy saying he has the moves like Jagger, but Adam still could have had her maybe sing the chorus with him at the end, rather than do those adlibs that add nothing to the track. BTW- it was on America's Got Talent and Today that Maroon 5 performed the track. You are a broken record. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 29, 2011 23:45:52 GMT -5
Oh, of course some Aguilera fans likely bought the track because she's on it. Whether she has more fans than Maroon 5- I guess sales of their last albums would be as good a comparison as any? Her fanbase isn't as rabid as, say, Britney Spears', though.
Thanks, Infinity- but you can always move the needle so you don't hear me. ;)
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 29, 2011 23:47:38 GMT -5
why have people elected to buy the X Tina version over the Maroon 5 version? Not just X Tina fans but the general public.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 29, 2011 23:53:55 GMT -5
^As far as I know, there isn't a version available for purchase that does not include Aguilera.
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Post by Caviar on Aug 30, 2011 0:30:53 GMT -5
Christina is going to FINALLY get her 5th #1.  |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 30, 2011 0:34:45 GMT -5
**dies**
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 1:41:40 GMT -5
Christina is going to FINALLY get her 5th #1. It's Maroon 5's #1 (if it happens), she's just featured on it. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 30, 2011 1:46:48 GMT -5
Christina is going to FINALLY get her 5th #1. It's Maroon 5's #1 (if it happens), she's just featured on it. Pandora is probably referring to Billboard and credits. It will count as a #1 for her in her list of #1s which has some fans excited. "Just featured" is good enough to Billboard just like Britney is credited for a #1 for her role in S&M or any other feature really. Now, whether that should continue or not is up for debate! They don't do retroactive rule changes as far as I know so the #1 will stand if it happens, but might change for future cases since so many people seem so focused on features counting now. I wonder if Billboard is discussing changing the rule? I know they did for remixes that one time. |
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Post by Lozzy on Aug 30, 2011 4:02:41 GMT -5
I believe against artists having featured singles count towards their trajectories/tallies, but I don't see any rule change coming or anything. If the remixing trend keeps up they might change the rule so that featured artists on a remix that's not leading in airplay don't get credited (i.e. Kanye would have got E.T., Britney wouldn't for S&M), but featured artists on original songs/airplay leading alternate versions are going to keep getting credited.
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Post by livelikedying111 on Aug 30, 2011 4:06:47 GMT -5
DAVID GUETTA -Without You f/Usher= 6.899 (+4.982)
What's this?!
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Post by falkos on Aug 30, 2011 4:07:33 GMT -5
this is a potential No-1
another one for Usher
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Post by tonytaylor on Aug 30, 2011 4:13:47 GMT -5
The way SLY is selling on iTunes it may not need much more airplay to go #1 on the Hot100 next week!
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Post by Lozzy on Aug 30, 2011 4:15:35 GMT -5
this is a potential No-1 another one for Usher Definitely not. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 4:21:17 GMT -5
DAVID GUETTA -Without You f/Usher= 6.899 (+4.982) What's this?! It's a 4 day update... |
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Post by falkos on Aug 30, 2011 4:37:08 GMT -5
it's like Pitbull & Ne-Yo's song
why not?
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Post by Resident_Evil on Aug 30, 2011 5:38:40 GMT -5
this is a potential No-1 another one for Usher Definitely not. If that pathetic song in ur sig can be a potential number 1 then IMO Without U should hit 1 right now  |
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Post by Lozzy on Aug 30, 2011 5:59:25 GMT -5
8/30 airplay updates:[/u] 1. KATY PERRY - Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.): 133.714 (- 0.416) 2. LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem: 127.972 (- 0.593) 3. NICKI MINAJ - Super Bass: 125.951 (- 0.139) 4. LIL WAYNE - How To Love: 107.079 (- 0.530) 5. PITBULL - Give Me Everything f/Ne-Yo: 105.930 (- 0.276) 6. BAD MEETS EVIL - Lighters f/Bruno Mars: 101.670 (+ 0.755) ▲ 7. BRITNEY SPEARS - I Wanna Go: 101.257 (- 0.005) ▼ 8. ONEREPUBLIC - Good Life: 90.442 (- 0.579) 9. ADELE - Rolling In The Deep: 87.147 (- 0.538) 10. HOT CHELLE RAE - Tonight Tonight: 77.342 (- 0.009) 11. THE BAND PERRY - If I Die Young: 71.610 (+ 0.428) ▲ 12. DJ KHALED - I'm On One f/Drake, Rick Ross: 71.424 (- 0.280) ▼ 13. MAROON 5 F/CHRISTINA AGUILERA - Moves Like Jagger: 71.166 (+ 2.089) ▲14. LADY GAGA - The Edge Of Glory: 68.314 (- 1.834) ▼ 15. KELLY ROWLAND - Motivation f/Lil Wayne: 65.673 (- 1.038) 16. FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Pumped Up Kicks: 61.988 (+ 0.966) 17. RIHANNA - Cheers (Drink To That): 54.310 (+ 1.100) 18. BRAD PAISLEY/CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Remind Me: 52.719 (+ 0.558) 19. JAKE OWEN - Barefoot Blue Jean Night: 51.332 (+ 0.546) ▲ 20. BEYONCE - Best Thing I Never Had: 50.674 (- 0.212) ▼ BLACK EYED PEAS - Just Can't Get Enough: 48.039 (- 1.011) LADY ANTEBELLUM - Just A Kiss: 46.858 (- 0.564) DIERKS BENTLEY - Am I The Only One: 46.784 (- 0.709) JAY Z & KANYE WEST - Otis: 43.965 (+ 0.500) RODNEY ATKINS - Take A Back Road: 42.910 (+ 0.609) COBRA STARSHIP - You Make Me Feel... f/Sabi: 41.092 (+ 1.073)
GYM CLASS HEROES - Stereo Hearts f/Adam Levine: 39.141 (+ 1.535)
DEV - In The Dark: 35.046 (+ 1.417)BIG SEAN - Marvin & Chardonnay: 34.684 (+ 0.311) MIGUEL - Quickie: 31.655 (+ 0.013) COLDPLAY - Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall: 30.928 (- 0.213) LADY GAGA - You And I: 30.852 (+ 2.154)DRAKE - Headlines: 27.230 (+ 0.934) ADELE - Someone Like You: 27.117 (+ 1.524)TAYLOR SWIFT - Sparks Fly: 24.139 (+ 0.458) ALEXANDRA STAN - Mr. Saxobeat: 23.626 (+ 0.266) THE SCRIPT - Nothing: 21.050 (+ 0.871) RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS - Adventures Of Rain Dance...: 20.254 (- 0.133) BLINK 182 - Up All Night: 6.889 (- 0.049) EVANESCENCE - What You Want: 4.045 (- 0.040) KELLY CLARKSON - Mr. Know It All: 0.029 (+ 0.021) [Source]
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Post by livelikedying111 on Aug 30, 2011 6:22:08 GMT -5
DAVID GUETTA -Without You f/Usher= 6.899 (+4.982) What's this?! It's a 4 day update... Now it makes sense. Thanks. |
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Post by Envoirment on Aug 30, 2011 7:32:21 GMT -5
THE SCRIPT - Nothing: 21.050 (+ 0.871)
Happy they made the list! Great update for them. I wonder if they can out-peak FTFT's AI. I think that peaked with 55-57m AI. ^^
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Post by Rodze on Aug 30, 2011 8:16:13 GMT -5
I'm tired of this same old bulls**t discussion. Where was everyone claiming Drake shouldn't be credited a number one for "What's My Name?" or 3OH!3 for a top ten debut on "Blah Blah Blah"? Just because it's Christina Aguilera, people go into a huge hissy fit.
Yes, the Christina fans are blowing her part out of proportion. But, it seems like everyone else is way too quick to discredit her as well. She's on there for about 1/4-1/5 of the song, so it's actually a decent amount. At least it feels like her part fits with the song, unlike 3OH!3's and Drake's parts in the songs I mentioned above.
Christina is going to get credited if "Moves Like Jagger" goes number one. Deal with it! The world isn't going to end because she got a number one hit as a featured artist. Pretty much this. It is funny to see people so "pressed" about it, though. |
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Post by Lozzy on Aug 30, 2011 8:25:34 GMT -5
People may very well be sick of her (although I doubt it), but I don't think post VMA sales are a very good indicator. Gaga and Adele shot up the charts because a) they both performed and b) their songs are both pretty damn new. Lil' Wayne is dominating because a) his album was just released and b) he performed. Beyonce performed a track unheard of by most, so clearly it would rise. I could go on and on. Katy, on the other hand, didn't perform, and all of her songs are a year old by now. Also, she won for what? ET and Firework? Name me 2 people in the world who haven't heard those songs by now. Both are nearing 5 million downloads and have reached the end of the road on radio. No added exposure now is going to help songs like ET and Firework, but will obviously help Someone Like You, You and I, etc. That's a fair point. They are already fully saturated. Ok I get that but even LFN fell like a stone...but it is a 5th single. It's something to consider.... Since when is LFN falling like a stone? |
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Post by herb on Aug 30, 2011 9:06:58 GMT -5
Adonis may refer to to the itune chart. In term of airplay, I do not see LFN falling like a rock.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 30, 2011 9:31:07 GMT -5
X Tina deserves credit for this song. If there is no version of the song without her then she definitely should get credit. It's up to the artists in combination with the record company as to who should get credit for a record. It's not up to billboard or any other publication. Maroon 5 and it's record company clearly thought X Tina's contribution was enough to warrant a credit on the record. The case for features is separate and different than the case for remixes. Let's not confuse the two.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 30, 2011 9:33:25 GMT -5
Adonis may refer to to the itune chart. In term of airplay, I do not see LFN falling like a rock. Sorry I wasn't more clear. I was definitely referring to Itunes. I agree with you that LFN is probably not going to fall like a stone considering it has HAC to help it out. |
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Post by pokepikalem on Aug 30, 2011 9:49:37 GMT -5
For all we know, Adele may pull a #1 on Hot 100 with Someone Like You. The chart is pretty weak right now, only one song in top 10 has an upward trajectory.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 30, 2011 9:54:49 GMT -5
As far as I an tell, no one ever said Aguilera should not be credited- "featurings" have become very common since the late 90s/early 2000s, after all. That's what's helped some R&B/hip-hop acts rack up an insane number of Hot 100 entries. For Billboard's all-time acts lists, though, as mentioned, featured acts only get 30% of the track's total points throughout its run (for something like "S&M" and "Till the World Ends," I imagine the featured acts would only get the points for the single week they were credited). So, "featuring" tracks definitely counts among an act's hits count, but they do not contribute wholly toward an act's total points in an all-time-acts ranking.
Aguilera's role on MLJ is no different than the rapper who has a rap section on a track and gets credit- so it's never been up for debate whether or not she should be credited or not.
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Aug 30, 2011 10:12:28 GMT -5
More Mediabase
8/30/2011 Update
TOBY KEITH -Made In America= 40.885 (+0.690)
KEITH URBAN -Long Hot Summer= 39.658 (+0.855)
TRACE ADKINS -Just Fishin'= 37.152 (+0.308)
DRAKE -Marvin's Room= 30.899 (+0.550)
BILLY CURRINGTON -Love Done Gone= 30.408 (-0.013)
BLAKE SHELTON -God Gave Me You= 29.461 (+0.535)
SCOTTY MCCREERY - I Love You This Big = 26.811 (+0.156)
AFROJACK -Take Over Control f/Eva Simons= 25.500 (+0.282)
MIRANDA LAMBERT -Baggage Claim= 24.769 (+0.534)
ANDY GRAMMER - Keep Your Head Up= 23.908 (+0.002)
THOMPSON SQUARE -I Got You= 23.177 (-0.250)
LIL WAYNE -She Will f/Drake= 22.638 (+1.029)
IYAZ -Pretty Girls= 21.823 (+0.603)
FOO FIGHTERS - Walk= 18.669 (+0.170)
NEW BOYZ -Better With The Lights Off= 17.190 (+0.365)
WALE - That Way f/Jeremih & Rick Ross= 15.365 (+0.303)
CHRIS BROWN -Wet The Bed= 15.054 (+0.531)
RASCAL FLATTS -Easy= 14.226 (+0.118)
TYGA -Far Away f/Chris Richardson= 12.664 (+0.042)
MATT NATHANSON -Faster= 12.120 (-0.043)
ACE HOOD -Body 2 Body f/Chris Brown= 11.843 (+0.240)
KREAYSHAWN -Gucci Gucci= 11.209 (+0.143)
JASON DERULO -It Girl= 10.588 (+0.752)
MONICA -Anything f/Rick Ross & Lil Kim= 10.019 (+0.005)
WIZ KHALIFA -No Sleep= 9.761 (+ 0.097)
LLOYD -Dedication To My Ex...= 9.234 (+0.222)
CHRISTINA PERRI -Arms= 8.695 (+0.236)
J. COLE -Workout= 8.485 (+0.090)
THE BAND PERRY - All Your Life= 8.439 (+0.345)
MARSHA AMBROSIUS -Late Nights & Early Mornings= 8.202
LADY ANTEBELLUM -We Owned The Night= 8.125 (+0.884)
DAVID GUETTA -Without You f/Usher= 7.705 (+0.806)
JAY Z & KANYE WEST - N***** In Paris= 7.596 (+0.295)
BUSH - The Sound Of Winter= 7.435 (+0.211)
KELLIE PICKLER -Tough= 7.098 (+0.103)
SEAN PAUL -Got 2 Luv U f/Alexis Jordan= 6.445 (+0.004)
COLBIE CAILLAT -Brighter Than The Sun= 6.426 (+0.056)
GAVIN DEGRAW - Not Over You = 6.332 (+0.056)
SWEDISH HOUSE MAFIA-Save The World= 5.845 (+0.077)
YOUNG JEEZY -Shake Life= 4.478 (+0.018)
KELLY ROWLAND -Lay It On Me f/Big Sean= 4.455 (-0.016)
DEMI LOVATO - Skyscraper = 4.425 (+0.123)
NICKI MINAJ -Fly f/Rihanna= 4.282 (+0.304)
BEYONCE - Party f/Kanye & Andre= 4.259 (-0.048)
LMFAO -Sexy And I Know It= 4.137 (+0.248)
JASON ALDEAN - Tattoos On This Town= 4.095 (+0.360)
JANE'S ADDICTION -Irresistible Force= 3.548 (-0.035)
MICHELLE BRANCH -Loud Music= 3.489 (+0.048)
TYRESE -Too Easy f/Ludacris= 3.327 (+0.276)
NAYER -Suave (Kiss Me) f/Mohombi= 2.900 (+0.065)
INCUBUS -Promises, Promises= 2.042 (+0.002)
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SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE -Love You Like A Love Song= 1.938 (+0.136)
LENNY KRAVITZ -Stand= 1.858 (-0.059)
FRANK OCEAN -Swim Good= 1.725 (+0.110)
LIL WAYNE -It's Good f/Jadakiss & Drake= 1.587
MELANIE FIONA -4 AM= 1.428 (+0.131)
SWITCHFOOT -Dark Horses= 1.420 (-0.012)
SKYLAR GRAY - Invisible = 1.218 (+0.073)
SIMPLE PLAN -Jet Lag f/Natasha Bedingfield=0.968 (+0.045)
MARY J. BLIGE -25/8= 0.946 (+0.203)
LIL JON -Drinks f/LMFAO= 0.900 (+0.064)
FLORENCE + THE MACHINE - What The Water Gave Me= 0.801 (+0.110)
FEIST -How Come You Never Go There= 0.738 (-0.019)
SNOW PATROL -Called Out In The Dark= 0.606 (-0.002)
CASEY JAMES-Let's Don't Call It A Night= 0.581 (+0.029)
LUKE BRYAN -I Don’t Want This Night To End= 0.433 (+0.023)
BEYONCE -Love On Top= 0.422
LIL WAYNE -Mirror f/Bruno Mars= 0.272
NICOLE SCHERZINGER -Don't Hold Your Breath= 0.065 (-0.017)
JESSIE J -Domino= 0.080 (+0.005)
FLO RIDA -Good Feelin'= 0.055
JOJO - Disaster= 0.046
KATY PERRY - Peacock= 0.036 (=)
CSS (CANSEI DE SER SEXY) -Hits Me Like A Rock= 0.030
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Post by livelikedying111 on Aug 30, 2011 10:32:12 GMT -5
I really don't get all the fighting over Moves Like Jagger. It's a Billboard rule that featured artists also get credited for #1. A lot of artists that were featured on a song but only sang one word were credited for #1. So whether you hate Christina or not, if they hit #1, it's gonna be for both of the parties, and that's that.
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Post by wavey. on Aug 30, 2011 10:32:58 GMT -5
I really don't get all the fighting over Moves Like Jagger. It's a Billboard rule that featured artists also get credited for #1. A lot of artists that were featured on a song but only sang one word were credited for #1. So whether you hate Christina or not, if they hit #1, it's gonna be for both of the parties, and that's that. Exactly. It's a pointless arguement. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 30, 2011 10:37:40 GMT -5
^I agree- it was never an argument over the crediting, at least for me.
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