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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 1, 2011 16:42:17 GMT -5
I was joking, really. He could look like Chewbacca for all I care.
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Post by guava on Sept 1, 2011 16:58:27 GMT -5
I was joking, really. He could look like Chewbacca for all I care. It's not wise to upset a Wookiee.
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 1, 2011 17:14:51 GMT -5
I was joking, really. He could look like Chewbacca for all I care. It's not wise to upset a Wookiee. Haha, if we're comparing Country singers to characters I guess Jamie Johnson would fit in the Chewbacca comparison. And I love Jamie's music! Scotty actually won his first contest in NC called Clayton Idol singing "In Color" which is on youtube. He also sang that on the Idol homecoming show but it didn't make it to air.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 1, 2011 19:43:34 GMT -5
Guava, I think you just won the thread. No way can I top that.
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Post by maria4hitz on Sept 2, 2011 10:41:26 GMT -5
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Post by RobbyFlorida on Sept 2, 2011 23:49:05 GMT -5
Since he won American Idol like Carrie did , anyone think his career will rocket like hers?
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 2, 2011 23:50:46 GMT -5
Since he won American Idol like Carrie did , anyone think his career will rocket like hers? I dunno. Ask Ruben Studdard, Fantasia Barrino, or Lee DeWyze. Last I heard they were all working at some greasy spoon outside of Lubbock.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 3, 2011 1:46:56 GMT -5
Since he won American Idol like Carrie did , anyone think his career will rocket like hers? I dunno. Ask Ruben Studdard, Fantasia Barrino, or Lee DeWyze. Last I heard they were all working at some greasy spoon outside of Lubbock. Fantasia actually had a successful RnB album release last year. Substitute her name with Taylor Hicks and you may have something there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 2:27:39 GMT -5
I dunno. Ask Ruben Studdard, Fantasia Barrino, or Lee DeWyze. Last I heard they were all working at some greasy spoon outside of Lubbock. Fantasia actually had a successful RnB album release last year. Substitute her name with Taylor Hicks and you may have something there. My thoughts exactly. Fantasia just won a Grammy, got a Gold album certification, 2 more #1s, and her highest-charting album of her career. She's doing pretty well. Anyways, it's tough to say with Scotty. If he has the breakout hits that Carrie had with Jesus, Take the Wheel and Before He Cheats, then he could, but you have to think about it this way: how many male Country stars are as dominant a name as one of Carrie Underwood or Taylor Swift? Kenny? Maybe Brad or Keith? Maybe. I can't see him reaching Carrie Underwood-caliber success, but I can see him matching the success of some of the current male Country stars today.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 3, 2011 11:58:08 GMT -5
Well since country radio lets more males in and less females, the women of country music look more dominant when they're on (and less so when they aren't), so I don't see him quite becoming a superstar, but I think his album sales will be very healthy and he will have continued radio success.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 14:02:34 GMT -5
I think he will outsell a lot of the male country acts today, but not Carrie. I can't see Scotty ever scoring a crossover hit like Carrie with "Before He Cheats", but that doesn't mean he won't have a huge career. Scotty doesn't really have that appeal to fans outside of country music like Carrie does. But I'm a huge fan of his, and I've already pre-ordered his album. I think his album will definitely go Platinum.
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 3, 2011 15:45:42 GMT -5
Its all depends on how good his album is. Like I've said I've heard the title track when it was leaked and its miles above the ILYTB and TTWG. It should have been released now, not TTWG. "Clear as Day" will become a gigantic hit if Mercury is smart enough to release it. Hearing that song gives me hope that this album will be a huge success. (You can find the lyrics by googling the song and his name). Will he sell Triple Platinum?, no, cause there is no male doing that today. And like it was said only Taylor and Carrie are the 2 acts in the entire genre doing that regularly today. I think he'll easily in the beginning get Luke Bryan, Rodney Atkins type success. If he takes the right track the potential is there to reach Jason Alden, Brad Paisley status within 3 to 5 years, but I say potential. It depends on the music he brings. The fans are there, he just has to deliver. I feel confident he can. He seems so mature for a 17 y/o, so if his head is on this straight this young, he should have no problem making good decisions. As he learns the business more, he needs to make his decisions, not his handlers. Carrie did that. She went from going along for the ride to being in charge of her career. In that aspect, I feel he will match Carrie. Saleswise, no, nobody will. The music business is just not set up for those kinda sales anymore thanks to the Digital age. I've preordered his album as well thru his website. Unfortunately I'll be out of town when it arrives so I will be buying it digitally as well so I can hear it before I get back home later in October. I actually found the demo again of "Clear as Day" as sung by Phil Odonnel who wrote the song, but it will sound SO good with Scotty singing it and sounds like such a big hit...the surprise ending of the song is chilling. kellyebelly.tumblr.com/post/8939947464/clear-as-day-demo-3
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Post by Typo on Sept 3, 2011 19:43:36 GMT -5
This is so odd & dated. And, he doesn't even sound good on it.
At this point I feel like Scotty's going to pull in big opening numbers and then just fade away.
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Post by jesster on Sept 3, 2011 21:03:01 GMT -5
I listened to this. Well part of it. I had to turn it off because I disliked it so much. Not really a fan although I thought he had some good AI performances (and some, so-so / lazy). I thought his first single was silly, this is possibly even more so. I'd like to think radio has better standards than to give this odd sort of song a lot of play, and at least force him to put out something better -- reportedly he's had a lot of great songwriters pitching him songs, and this is what they chose? But he probably will get a lot of promo as the AI winner with this supporting his album launch, so I imagine it will do reasonably well despite the weaknesses of the lyrics. His voice recorded really doesn't feel as good to me as it came across on the show in a few of his live performances. But I have to say, I probably like him better after seeing the photo with the Wookiee, lol.
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Post by oldenuf on Sept 4, 2011 19:27:12 GMT -5
He seems so mature for a 17 y/o, so if his head is on this straight this young, he should have no problem making good decisions. As he learns the business more, he needs to make his decisions, not his handlers. But that is part of his selling point.. that he is a 17 yr old...when you lose the novelty of that he will need something to back it up, and then the question becomes will anyone care.
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Post by horchata on Sept 4, 2011 20:08:36 GMT -5
I think this is actually a pretty good song, it's lightyears better than I love You This Big (which I like to a minor degree, even if the title is something a 5 yr old would say)
Sure part of Scotty's charm and why he won is that he was so god damn likable, but people had a bit of a shock value at what kind of voice he has. I also think he has a way about him that sets him apart and in general is very cute, it will be interesting to see how this era plays out for him. So far what is team is doing seems to be working, but I think this kid is going to have a longer longevity than people assume. He isn't Lee DeWyze, lol and the country market in general is pretty open with supporting who they like. I don't think he's the next "male" Carrier per se, but he will good crack numbers and I think will be around the block longer than Lauren will (now that is the one I would be a little worried about before him).
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Post by maria4hitz on Sept 6, 2011 10:24:10 GMT -5
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 6, 2011 19:26:50 GMT -5
12 Monitered adds, 16 total. Not bad for a song that was only first known of as of last Monday! I'll be interested to see how the adds go leading up to the album in the next 4 weeks. Here is that one song "Out of Summertime" that leaked a few months ago. Its track #1 on "Clear as Day." view.aimini.com/?fid=NdkeujLFyrbI3t6aDzPM
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 15:19:23 GMT -5
Why doesn't this have an adds date yet? I think they need to give it one.
This song seems to be off to a very slow start for someone who won AI. It got only 6 adds this week on top of 12 last week. Only 18 adds in 2 weeks? That seems very low to me...and isn't nearly the respone that ILYTB got. I don't really like this song and I didn't like the last one, but I still think Mercury is mismanaging his career so far. They should've never pushed the last single to radio...a better song (not coronation one) would have had the same early buzz that ILYTB had and could've debuted in the low 30's or top 30 even (just as ILYTB did), and could've made it higher up the chart.
There was nothing memorable about ILYTB. If you put that song in the hands of someone else, aka, someone who hadn't won AI, I seriously don't think it does anything.
With all that said, I'm sure Scotty will have big album sales and of course that might really speed up this single, but I'm quite surprised at the slow start this one is having. It's really flying under the radar, and not in a good way. So I really think they should give it an adds date to get it moving a bit more, and then when the album comes out it'll move up more.
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Post by maria4hitz on Sept 12, 2011 15:30:29 GMT -5
It had 9 adds this week, 6 monitored.
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Post by Arabella21 on Sept 12, 2011 16:30:47 GMT -5
This song taking off slowly has nothing to do with ILTYB. TTWG is just a snoozer and if it's one the two best ballads on Scotty's album, then the album is not in great shape. I suspect that's not the case, and Scotty just got a dud single choice, so I guess it's the same old Idol story, even with different labels in charge.
Maybe without ILYTB, the label would have sent OOS to radio in July, but so what? ILYTB was a moderate hit when you get down to it, so you'd think they'd want the next song to be a bigger hit or even a smash. Does anyone really hear that potential from TTWG? The album has 12 songs, one of them had to have made a better choice for single #2 than this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 16:49:20 GMT -5
^I didn't say that ILYTB is really effecting this one. I just think that they should've never pushed that song to radio...it turned into a moderate hit, sure, but it wasn't memorable and the big point of my post is that, had that song been the debut single by another artist (someone who didn't win AI), it would've done nothing. I'm almost certain of that.
And yeah, I don't really see the appeal behind this either...but that's beside the point. It seems like no one's even paying attention to it, which is why I think the label should've sent out a different song as the lead single...it would've had a chance to be bigger than the coronation song ILYTB, and thus set Scotty up better for a 2nd single.
I mean, Scotty got 12 adds last week, and 6 this week...people like Chris Cagle and Andy Gibson are outdoing that. Chris hasn't had a hit in years and no one probably knows who Andy is...while Scotty won AI this year.
Like I said, though, I'm sure the sales numbers of his album will compell radio to play this more in a few weeks. I'm just surprised that it's off to a slow start like this, and I think an official adds date would help somewhat.
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Post by layne on Sept 12, 2011 16:57:24 GMT -5
Ok, I know most on here don't like ILYTB, but it's been getting more airplay than I ever thought possible and it appears the single has sold very well. This business is all about money. So with that said. ILYTB is a pretty big hit for someone that has not paid his dues and is basically only getting played because he won AI. Not saying he doesn't have talent, but tons of talented people aren't getting radio spins with much better songs. This current song imo isn't as radio friendly as ILYTB.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 17:22:41 GMT -5
Ok, I know most on here don't like ILYTB, but it's been getting more airplay than I ever thought possible and it appears the single has sold very well. This business is all about money. So with that said. ILYTB is a pretty big hit for someone that has not paid his dues and is basically only getting played because he won AI. Not saying he doesn't have talent, but tons of talented people aren't getting radio spins with much better songs. This current song imo isn't as radio friendly as ILYTB. I agree--I do believe ILYTB was a moderate hit, and it has gone Gold in sales. However, it plummeted big time this week...more than most songs do even if a new single is announced. So even though I think the song might be a success from a commercial standpoint, I fail to see how it has set up a strong future for Scotty. So what I've been saying is that, I think a better song would have done even more as the lead single. Of course, there's no way to prove that...but I think something else would've done better than the coronation song as an actual lead single. The Idol buzz will wear off...it seems to have diminished now, and while I fully expect it to return around the time of his album release (and I believe the album will sell very well), I just think that the label could be doing much better. Again, I don't really think a song like ILYTB would do much in the hands of a "regular" newcomer. And I think a different single in place of ILYTB would've netted even better results and set Scotty up better for a 2nd single...but again, there's no way to know that for sure. I hate to do this but, if you compare Scotty's firs single to those of Josh Gracin or Bucky Covington, two top 5 AI finalists, their songs performed much better on radio than Scotty's did. Josh's 2nd single, "Nothin' To Lose", went to #1 and went Gold, too. Obviously, both of their mainstream careers took a hit with their 2nd albums and the decline of Lyric Street Records...so Scotty does benefit from a stronger label and the fact that he won AI (rather than finishing 4th or 5th), but he hasn't had as much radio success. I think the album will sell well, but is this new single really going to be a big hit? The first single was a moderate hit but in the grand scheme of things, it seems quite unmemorable...at least in my opinion. I want to like Scotty, but if I'm going to buy his album, the other 10 songs will have to be MUCH better than ILYTB and TTWG.
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Post by Arabella21 on Sept 12, 2011 17:29:10 GMT -5
Ok, I know most on here don't like ILYTB, but it's been getting more airplay than I ever thought possible and it appears the single has sold very well. This business is all about money. So with that said. ILYTB is a pretty big hit for someone that has not paid his dues and is basically only getting played because he won AI. Not saying he doesn't have talent, but tons of talented people aren't getting radio spins with much better songs. This current song imo isn't as radio friendly as ILYTB. I actually do find myself liking ILYTB more than TTWG. It may have cheesy lyrics but nothing about TTWG sticks, not the words or its melody. Oh god TTWG is "Light On" all over again: David Cook was a popular winner with a hit coronation song, which got his fans hoping his "real" first single would be soooo much better and it...wasn't, but it was the label's idea of his "signature sound". With Scotty that seems to be sentimental ballads that play to teenage girls.
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Post by layne on Sept 12, 2011 17:29:43 GMT -5
^ I don't disagree with your points but I think with the coronation single being performed on AI, the only thing that made sense was to release it. The non-country fans "kids" that followed Scotty only because of AI probably bought and requested that song and might not have been as excited about a totally new song. JMO
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 17:36:59 GMT -5
^ I don't disagree with your points but I think with the coronation single being performed on AI, the only thing that made sense was to release it. The non-country fans "kids" that followed Scotty only because of AI probably bought and requested that song and might not have been as excited about a totally new song. JMO Good point as well. But I just look at Carrie, whose coronation song was "Inside Your Heaven"...that sold so well that it opened at #1 on the Hot 100, but they never officially released it to country radio, and opted for a much better song in "Jesus, Take The Wheel". And we all know how that turned out. So I think that the coronation song (ILYTB) would've still sold well, but maybe trying a different stronger song as their first bid at a radio hit could've been a wiser move. That's an arguable topic, though. Obviously there's nothing that says that Scotty and his label have to copy Carrie and her path to success, but she's made it to the bigtime and I'm not convinced (yet) Scotty will get there. Josh Gracin and Bucky Covington had bigger radio hits off the bat, and I can't help but wonder if Interscope/Mercury is a little disappointed in the airplay peak of ILYTB. I can see Scotty really breaking through with the right singles...but to do that, I think his team will really have to hype up the album and really hope the fans like it and it sells well. Big albums sales generally translate to radio hits, as we've recently seen with Luke Bryan and Eric Church.
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Post by layne on Sept 12, 2011 17:48:59 GMT -5
^ Agree on Carrie. Jesus Take the Wheel and Before He Cheats are still my two favorites from her of all time. That said, I think Carrie has "IT" In other words she is a Bonafide Entertainer that has the whole package and I don't really see that from Scotty yet.
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Post by Arabella21 on Sept 12, 2011 17:52:47 GMT -5
"Inside Your Heaven" wasn't even really a country song. It was the typical Adult Contemporary ballad Idol gave the winner for the moment it would create on TV, not for any serious hope that it would do well on radio. Scotty and Lauren both got country coronation songs, which showed that Interscope was pursuing a path that would (hopefully) lead to whichever one won getting played on the radio right away.
Carrie's win was a long time ago. More recently Idol has had to deal with winners whose fanbases seemed to have vanished by the time their albums were released. Scotty was rumored to have run away with the votes, but I can't blame Interscope for not wanting to risk having Scotty slip out of the public consciousness for months in the hopes that his lead-off single would be of the caliber of "Jesus, Take the Wheel". If it had been, great, but what if we'd waited for months and the "real" single had still been boring? Then Scotty would be in much worse shape than he is now for having had ILYTB as a hit.
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 12, 2011 18:02:58 GMT -5
The 2nd week of ILYTB being in adds he was the #1 most added artist, with 67 adds (44 monitered), it was crazy! This time its 9 adds (6 monitered). Big Difference. And to be honest, its just not good. I'm sure he'll be on TV shows promoting it the same week as the album release, so it may pick up then. But this is a very slow start. This is even a slow start for a song from a brand new artist no one's heard of that's put out! Andy Gibson got 12 adds today, I mean who is that?? I'm really shocked at how slow its being added. I honestly feel if the song had been any other song from his album that is either fast or CAD, it would be alot further than it is now. It was just the wrong song to release at this point in time and I feel this is proving it. Believe me the title track "Clear as Day" is something Kenny, Tim, Jason or any of the mega stars would have loved to record. This is the demo, its NOT Scotty, but the writer Phil Odonnel...the listener never sees the end coming, it goes from happy to sad in one line like a punch in a gut...now thats Country! lnk.co/clearasdaystreamTTWG was a mistake to be released, its apparent now. I don't know what Mercury was thinking with a song as great as "Clear as Day" sitting there! Hope is still there but radio doesn't give too many chances.
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