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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 18:11:56 GMT -5
"Inside Your Heaven" wasn't even really a country song. It was the typical Adult Contemporary ballad Idol gave the winner for the moment it would create on TV, not for any serious hope that it would do well on radio. Scotty and Lauren both got country coronation songs, which showed that Interscope was pursuing a path that would (hopefully) lead to whichever one won getting played on the radio right away. Carrie's win was a long time ago. More recently Idol has had to deal with winners whose fanbases seemed to have vanished by the time their albums were released. Scotty was rumored to have run away with the votes, but I can't blame Interscope for not wanting to risk having Scotty slip out of the public consciousness for months in the hopes that his lead-off single would be of the caliber of "Jesus, Take the Wheel". If it had been, great, but what if we'd waited for months and the "real" single had still been boring? Then Scotty would be in much worse shape than he is now for having had ILYTB as a hit. True...but it's not like Interscope/Mercury had to go with ILYTB as the single, even though Idol gave it to them. They could've released it digitally and gone with something else for country radio. I can't agree with the belief that it would've taken too long to get a different song out. "Out Of Summertime" was clearly done months ago, as evidenced by its early leak. They wouldn't have needed the album to be done, but just a song or a couple. And they had that. Whether the lead single would have been OOS or another song, I think it could've done better. I'm not saying it ever had to be "Jesus, Take The Wheel" big, but I think something other than the coronation song would've been received better on country radio. But again, that's just speculation and we'll never know for sure. And I know the times have changed and AI winners have struggled recently, but country has always been a much more supportive format and Scotty has already seen more support than the past few winners. I'll just stick to my theory in thinking that he could've seen even better results with a different lead single. My guess is that Interscope/Mercury might very well be somewhat disappointed with the airplay peak of ILYTB, and they can't be too ecstatic about the first 2 weeks of TTWG, either. So that's why I think the album will have to be strong--good sales and well received by fans--to give Scotty that radio breakthrough, because the first single didn't completely accomplish that, and this one, while likely to climb for a while, hasn't received the warmest reception. He's got the potential, I think, but I really feel that Sony handled Carrie's career better than Mercury has handled Scotty's so far.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 12, 2011 18:16:32 GMT -5
The gloom and doom from Kellie Pickler's thread must have rubbed off on this song. Reading this has it looking like Scotty's 15 minutes are about up. I think they're just getting started, and honestly, I'm not worried about this song at all. It'll pick up... they didn't have much segway between his last single and this one, they just threw it out there, so we have to let radio pass the torch on its own.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 18:21:30 GMT -5
^I didn't say I'm worried either...I think the results so far are just underwhelming, less than what I expected. I think his album sales will lead to better results on radio.
However, the first week sales for this song were but a fraction of those for ILYTB, so it IS clear that a lot of the hype/buzz has died down. So that's why I've been re-iterrating my belief that Scotty needs a strong, well-received album to establish himself...because this doesn't look like the start of a big hit or a string of hits like Carrie had, or even Josh Gracin and Bucky Covington.
I do believe Scotty has potential, and that country is a more supportive genre, but it's not a guarantee that he's just going to be a star. To me, the key will be the album..
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 12, 2011 18:27:06 GMT -5
Ya the album will tell alot and I really am loving the titles of some of the songs. The titles and hearing the CAD demo is what is making me say TTWG is the wrong song. I hope for Scotty's sake radio picks up on it, I want him to be successful. He really has potential to be a great artist given he has the right backing and promotion behind him. When I first heard the title TTWG I thought it'd be some fun upbeat song, and others thought that too. The title is really cool. The melody is almost like elevator music in the 2nd half tho, and no one expected that.
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Post by kml567 on Sept 12, 2011 19:23:38 GMT -5
Ok, I know most on here don't like ILYTB, but it's been getting more airplay than I ever thought possible and it appears the single has sold very well. This business is all about money. So with that said. ILYTB is a pretty big hit for someone that has not paid his dues and is basically only getting played because he won AI. Not saying he doesn't have talent, but tons of talented people aren't getting radio spins with much better songs. This current song imo isn't as radio friendly as ILYTB. I actually do find myself liking ILYTB more than TTWG. It may have cheesy lyrics but nothing about TTWG sticks, not the words or its melody. Oh god TTWG is "Light On" all over again: David Cook was a popular winner with a hit coronation song, which got his fans hoping his "real" first single would be soooo much better and it...wasn't, but it was the label's idea of his "signature sound". With Scotty that seems to be sentimental ballads that play to teenage girls. Yep, this is deja vu like with David Cook again. It's incredible how Mercury is making the same mistake as RCA did with Cook. I suggest they claim TTWG is just an itunes teaser for fans (like what Lady A's doing with "Wanted You More") and the real 2nd single for radio release is out 10/4 when album is released. They never had an adds date for TTWG, so it's not too late to pull it. I think fun and uptempo would be best. His most praised Idol performance was the uptempo "Gone". I had a feeling two ballads in a row is a major turn-off for radio PDs, and it looks to be the case.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 12, 2011 19:26:42 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood's first two singles were just ballads, so I don't think the simple fact that both of his singles are ballads is the problem. I don't see a problem personally, but obviously in comparing his ballads (well, I still haven't heard this one yet, as the links I've tried didn't seem to work) to Carrie's, he falls short in the quality department.
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 12, 2011 19:35:24 GMT -5
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Post by layne on Sept 12, 2011 19:51:42 GMT -5
Well so far, I have really liked both Lady A's itunes teasers. LOL I still think this single will pick up for Scotty but for those wanting Clear as Day to be released, I read an interview where he stated it might get released at some point but not next for sure since both of his releases have been ballads. I listened to the Songwriter version of the song and I like it, but in all honesty I'm still not sure that's a sure fire radio hit for Scotty. I still think something along the lines of "Honey Bee" would work for Scotty.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 12, 2011 21:10:37 GMT -5
Thanks. I have to say, now that I've heard the song, that it may be a bit of grower for me, though on first listen I did like it.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 12, 2011 22:08:08 GMT -5
I actually do find myself liking ILYTB more than TTWG. It may have cheesy lyrics but nothing about TTWG sticks, not the words or its melody. Oh god TTWG is "Light On" all over again: David Cook was a popular winner with a hit coronation song, which got his fans hoping his "real" first single would be soooo much better and it...wasn't, but it was the label's idea of his "signature sound". With Scotty that seems to be sentimental ballads that play to teenage girls. Yep, this is deja vu like with David Cook again. It's incredible how Mercury is making the same mistake as RCA did with Cook. I suggest they claim TTWG is just an itunes teaser for fans (like what Lady A's doing with "Wanted You More") and the real 2nd single for radio release is out 10/4 when album is released. They never had an adds date for TTWG, so it's not too late to pull it. I think fun and uptempo would be best. His most praised Idol performance was the uptempo "Gone". I had a feeling two ballads in a row is a major turn-off for radio PDs, and it looks to be the case. They did have an add date, it was called an "immediate add." I don't know why two weeks into adds that people are saying 'this song is done' already. give it some time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 22:47:35 GMT -5
^Who said "this song is done"? I don't see that anywhere in the last several posts. Instead, I see some people saying it's started off slowly, which can't be denied.
I can't speak for everyone, but in my posts today I have indeed noted how I expect this song to pick it up, inspite of its slow start.
Technically, I guess it did have an "immediate" adds date...but that makes the situation look more dire, considering it only got 12 monitored adds that week. They should put up an official adds date on AllAccess and MusicRow...radio seems to like those better. Lady A, Eric Church, and Luke Bryan have gotten good starts by sending songs for "immediate airplay", but that doesn't always work and Scotty's team shouldn't just assume he's going to get some awesome reception right out of the box.
If it were up to me, I'd give this song an adds date of next week (the 19th) or just wait until October 3rd when it goes for adds. Giving a song an official adds date won't hurt it...it can only help. An official adds date basically only means that the label is requesting that radio starts putting the song into rotation, and I genuinely do think that that would help this song out a bit.
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 12, 2011 23:09:24 GMT -5
^Who said "this song is done"? I don't see that anywhere in the last several posts. Instead, I see some people saying it's started off slowly, which can't be denied. I can't speak for everyone, but in my posts today I have indeed noted how I expect this song to pick it up, inspite of its slow start. Technically, I guess it did have an "immediate" adds date...but that makes the situation look more dire, considering it only got 12 monitored adds that week. They should put up an official adds date on AllAccess and MusicRow...radio seems to like those better. Lady A, Eric Church, and Luke Bryan have gotten good starts by sending songs for "immediate airplay", but that doesn't always work and Scotty's team shouldn't just assume he's going to get some awesome reception right out of the box. If it were up to me, I'd give this song an adds date of next week (the 19th) or just wait until October 3rd when it goes for adds. Giving a song an official adds date won't hurt it...it can only help. An official adds date basically only means that the label is requesting that radio starts putting the song into rotation, and I genuinely do think that that would help this song out a bit. Thats a great idea! You should see if Scotty's team is hiring marketers :)
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 12, 2011 23:19:44 GMT -5
I honestly think if record labels spent a couple weeks reading this forum, they'd start a bidding war over who gets jhomes, lol.
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Post by layne on Sept 12, 2011 23:28:24 GMT -5
I honestly think if record labels spent a couple weeks reading this forum, they'd start a bidding war over who gets jhomes, lol. LOL, It's a damn good idea and they might learn something
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 23:46:46 GMT -5
^I'm flattered guys. Thanks for the kind words. But those labels would probably be even better off with others (rowdawg, Zazie, Jonsolo...I'm looking at you). I learned most of what I know from them.
Anyway, keeping on track with Scotty...he does climb 7 spots to #47 on tonight's Billboard chart, with an increase of 0.386 million AI's...not exactly mind-blowing but not horrible either. He should be able to pass Craig Morgan and Ashton Shepherd this week, and he'll also gain a spot...from himself! "I Love You This Big" slides down 12 spots to #30 and will go recurrent this week, so he helps himself out there and also has 2 songs in passing range. There's a pretty big gap (~400k) between #45 Ashton and #44 JT Hodges, and that gap is only going to get larger as JT's "Hunt You Down" entered the Mediabase top 40 this past weekend and so will receive a big boost from its debut on Bob Kingsley's CT40 this coming weekend. At #43 is Chris Young, and I'd say he and everyone above him will be out of Scotty's range this week, unless Scotty pulls out a really big gain.
There are several recurrent candidates--Gloriana, James Wesley, Eden's Edge, David Nail, Steve Holy, Eli Young Band, Trace Adkins, and maybe even Brad/Carrie...but none of them are exactly showing signs of falling (besides "Remind Me") so it's too tough to guess if any of them will leave this week.
But, at the very least, a +3 jump looks quite likely, with Craig and Ashton in range, and ILYTB set to go recurrent. We'll have to wait a few more days to see if there's a chance of anyone else going recurrent.
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 19, 2011 10:21:31 GMT -5
Where is this at on Mediabase? Its already in the 40s on Billboard so I'm surprised I haven't seen it on the Daily Mediabase top 50 yet!
He had a pretty good day today at Mediabase adds! -15 adds this week (9 monitered) -40 adds total (27 monitered) -Scotty's the 4th most added overall artist this week (6th most monitered, tied with Martina)
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Post by maria4hitz on Sept 19, 2011 15:09:21 GMT -5
^I see 16 adds (10 monitored).
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 19, 2011 15:13:25 GMT -5
Oh I see, last time I looked it was still 15/9! Awesome! So that would make his overall total 41/28. Not bad for a song that has got next to no promotion, other than in trade ads. Hopefully he'll start singing it on TV when he goes on shows to promote the album release.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 18:38:20 GMT -5
Maybe those who are urgent to hear this song on radio should move to Albuquerque, New Mexico. Their station KRST, one of the 10 stations to add Scotty's TTWG this week, spun the song 40 times this past week! :O
That's not an unusual occurrence for this station (to put a couple songs right into high rotation), I've noticed, but still!
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Post by McCreerian on Sept 22, 2011 18:56:36 GMT -5
For those with ITunes, Scotty McCreery's "Clear as Day" now has 90 second samples up. I must say after listening, this album is very good! The only 2 weaker songs are the ones that have been singles! Of course that wasn't his choice. I hear at least 2 or 3 Top 10 or even top 5 hits in the making after TTWG runs its course. Clearly uptempo should have been chosen as the current single, as all the uptempo songs on here are top quality. And ballads such as the title cut, "Clear as Day," "Dirty Dishes," and "Back on the Ground" are tearjerkers thats for sure! This is going to be a great era for Scotty. I'm hoping for "Water Tower Town" or "Write my number on your hand" as the next single. They both are pure radio ready and the latter sounds like it could have come out of the Chesney playbook. Its a solid album for sure!
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Post by Zazie on Sept 22, 2011 20:18:38 GMT -5
^I'm flattered guys. Thanks for the kind words. But those labels would probably be even better off with others (rowdawg, Zazie, Jonsolo...I'm looking at you). I learned most of what I know from them. You've got a big future because you do your homework and you can back up what you say. It's gracious of you to credit me and others, but I only wish I had known as much about music and charts when I was in my 20's as you do already. Keep it up!
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Post by Arabella21 on Oct 1, 2011 18:23:28 GMT -5
Scotty returns to high school for new videoBy Sarah Nagem The News and Observer Tags: Scotty McCreery | American Idol | Garner | Garner High School | The Trouble With Girls GARNER When Scotty McCreery found out he was shooting a video for his latest single, “The Trouble With Girls,” he knew the perfect spot: his high school. So on Saturday, the “American Idol” winner and Garner High School senior invited about 70 of his friends to take part in the production. For one day, the school became a video set, complete with bright lights and a professional crew. Scotty and his friends walked the halls, conducted a science experiment and passed notes in class, all while cameras rolled. “For me, it’s all about making it believable,” said Scotty, 17, whose album “Clear As Day” will be released Tuesday. “Even the songs in my album – they’re about my life.” Scotty's school is ideal for the video and the song, said Roman White, a music-video director Nashville production company Revolution. “It’s kind of a high school story about boys and girls and first love – kind of innocent glances,” said White, who has also directed videos for performers such as Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood and Justin Bieber. During his time on “American Idol,” Scotty talked often about his hometown and the Blue Crew, the school’s athletics booster club. He was determined to return to Garner High for his senior year. His friends said they were thrilled for the chance to appear in a country-music video – especially since many of them have grown up with Scotty since elementary school. “It’s kinda hard to believe, said Tyler White, 17, a senior at Garner High. “When he left, we were proud of him, but we never thought it would come down to this – shooting a video here. It’s kind of surreal.” In one video shot, Scotty, clad in chemistry goggles, pours soap into a beaker of vinegar and baking soda and then watches the concoction fizz. The crew made him repeat the scene three times. Gabi Dugal, 17, a senior at Garner High, sat next to Scotty during the scene. But the teen said she wasn’t nervous. Seeing the video on national television, though, might be a different story. “I never thought I’d be on TV, so it’s going to be really weird,” Dugal said. But before the video shoot, some students started their day with a dose of reality: they had to take the SAT college-entrance exam. www.newsobserver.com/2011/10/01/1531904/scotty-returns-to-high-school.htmlThere's also a photo gallery from the video shoot.
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Post by StillTheSame on Oct 1, 2011 18:41:53 GMT -5
Scotty returns to high school for new videoBy Sarah Nagem The News and Observer Tags: Scotty McCreery | American Idol | Garner | Garner High School | The Trouble With Girls GARNER When Scotty McCreery found out he was shooting a video for his latest single, “The Trouble With Girls,” he knew the perfect spot: his high school. So on Saturday, the “American Idol” winner and Garner High School senior invited about 70 of his friends to take part in the production. For one day, the school became a video set, complete with bright lights and a professional crew. Scotty and his friends walked the halls, conducted a science experiment and passed notes in class, all while cameras rolled. “For me, it’s all about making it believable,” said Scotty, 17, whose album “Clear As Day” will be released Tuesday. “Even the songs in my album – they’re about my life.” Scotty's school is ideal for the video and the song, said Roman White, a music-video director Nashville production company Revolution. “It’s kind of a high school story about boys and girls and first love – kind of innocent glances,” said White, who has also directed videos for performers such as Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood and Justin Bieber. During his time on “American Idol,” Scotty talked often about his hometown and the Blue Crew, the school’s athletics booster club. He was determined to return to Garner High for his senior year. His friends said they were thrilled for the chance to appear in a country-music video – especially since many of them have grown up with Scotty since elementary school. “It’s kinda hard to believe, said Tyler White, 17, a senior at Garner High. “When he left, we were proud of him, but we never thought it would come down to this – shooting a video here. It’s kind of surreal.” In one video shot, Scotty, clad in chemistry goggles, pours soap into a beaker of vinegar and baking soda and then watches the concoction fizz. The crew made him repeat the scene three times. Gabi Dugal, 17, a senior at Garner High, sat next to Scotty during the scene. But the teen said she wasn’t nervous. Seeing the video on national television, though, might be a different story. “I never thought I’d be on TV, so it’s going to be really weird,” Dugal said. But before the video shoot, some students started their day with a dose of reality: they had to take the SAT college-entrance exam. www.newsobserver.com/2011/10/01/1531904/scotty-returns-to-high-school.htmlThere's also a photo gallery from the video shoot. Thanks for posting! Sounds like it'll be quite a good video (at least to me). I love Roman's work, very happy to hear he directed.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 2, 2011 13:47:47 GMT -5
I love the headline: Scotty returns to high school for new video. He has not graduated yet!
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Post by maria4hitz on Oct 3, 2011 11:57:40 GMT -5
TTWG is back in the top 200 on iTunes
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 19:45:49 GMT -5
Surprised that this hasn't been mentioned yet...in promotion of his debut album, Scotty will be co-hosting Country Countdown USA with Lon Helton this coming weekend, October 8/9.
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Post by maria4hitz on Oct 4, 2011 20:13:42 GMT -5
Scotty on Regis and Kelly
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 15:57:01 GMT -5
HITS Sales Predictions for Clear As Day:
Mercury Nashville/19/Interscope artist Scott McCreery’s debut studio effort, Clear as Day, will debut at #1 on next week’s HITS Album sales chart with between 150-175k.
Great numbers. Hopefully I'll be able to get a listening party up soon..
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Post by Arabella21 on Oct 5, 2011 16:23:25 GMT -5
Since Scotty is singing this song on multiple talk shows this week, it should be the runaway success at iTunes, yet it's just about to catch up to Out of Summertime and they're both behind ILYTB. I am really not getting TTWG as single #2 at all now that I've heard the other ballads and uptempos the album has to offer, though even with it, he's going to handily break Billy Ray's old sales record for a new male country artist and that's enough of an accomplishment for Scotty.
My inner conspiracy theorist wonders if they picked an okay-ish second single intentionally to slow down his momentum a little, to keep some of the resentment/jealousy from other corners in Nashville at bay. Like, if he'd blazed in with Carrie success, a huge award-caliber "real" first single and the megasales, from some teenage boy, it would've been too much? I don't know.
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Post by Ragin on Oct 11, 2011 12:06:37 GMT -5
I don't get it either. This is not one of the strongest songs on the album. I don't see this doing much.
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