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Post by Arabella21 on Dec 5, 2011 21:30:39 GMT -5
I don't believe that about the sales being from people who don't normally listen to Country radio. Look at Kris and Lee's sales. Scotty has more than outsold both their albums already! Even David Cook, Jordin, and Taylor Hicks didn't sell as fast as Scotty has. Scotty's sales are very good, but David Cook's album in 2008 sold over 800K in six weeks. Taylor Hicks also sold half a million in two weeks (which was actually better than Daughtry believe it or not), it was just the weeks after that were the problem. ;) [/Idol nerd] I think it's a mix of Idol fans who might like country but haven't haven't bought an album in a while, and regular country album buyers who also watch Idol, picking up Clear As Day. The days of Idol fans automatically picking up the winner's album as a souvenir of the season have been gone for a good while IMO. They have to like the winner and still care about him/her months later, and *then* the label has to do a good job with singles to keep fans engaged, which is where Idol has fallen down in recent years. So I had no problem with "I Love You This Big" being pushed as a single when it was and think it did its job in keeping Scotty in people's minds last summer. I shy away from the Carrie comparisons with Scotty for a number of reasons--he's more traditional country and that's going to limit his appeal compared to hers; as a teenage guy it will be very hard for him to become the dominant male voice in country music the way Carrie did on the female side (another thing that greatly helped her sales/visibility). Some Hearts was just *huge* right away and then it kept selling and selling and it had two songs that crossed over to very different audiences (Christian and Pop). Just because CAD is selling well doesn't mean it's going to clear that bar. I see Scotty having his defining album later on in his career.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 6, 2011 11:44:38 GMT -5
I don't believe that about the sales being from people who don't normally listen to Country radio. Look at Kris and Lee's sales. Scotty has more than outsold both their albums already! Even David Cook, Jordin, and Taylor Hicks didn't sell as fast as Scotty has. Scotty's sales are very good, but David Cook's album in 2008 sold over 800K in six weeks. Taylor Hicks also sold half a million in two weeks (which was actually better than Daughtry believe it or not), it was just the weeks after that were the problem. ;) [/Idol nerd] I think it's a mix of Idol fans who might like country but haven't haven't bought an album in a while, and regular country album buyers who also watch Idol, picking up Clear As Day. The days of Idol fans automatically picking up the winner's album as a souvenir of the season have been gone for a good while IMO. They have to like the winner and still care about him/her months later, and *then* the label has to do a good job with singles to keep fans engaged, which is where Idol has fallen down in recent years. So I had no problem with "I Love You This Big" being pushed as a single when it was and think it did its job in keeping Scotty in people's minds last summer. I shy away from the Carrie comparisons with Scotty for a number of reasons--he's more traditional country and that's going to limit his appeal compared to hers; as a teenage guy it will be very hard for him to become the dominant male voice in country music the way Carrie did on the female side (another thing that greatly helped her sales/visibility). Some Hearts was just *huge* right away and then it kept selling and selling and it had two songs that crossed over to very different audiences (Christian and Pop). Just because CAD is selling well doesn't mean it's going to clear that bar. I see Scotty having his defining album later on in his career. Let me define what a defining album should be: Not necesaarily the huge monster selling album, but one that shows a lot of artistic growth in the artist. Scotty McCreery, now at the age of eighteen, has not experienced a lot in life as his debut hit, I Love You This Big implies. His defining CD will definitely come during his twenties. That means we will have to wait five years (or so) to get that album that really says, 'I'm Scotty McCreery'. This first CD does not do that.
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Post by McCreerian on Dec 6, 2011 15:19:41 GMT -5
This CD defines him as a Christian young man who loves family, God, where he grew up, and is still trying to figure out the opposite sex as teen guys do. An album is a snapshot of where an artist is at the time of his/her life. There will be "deeper" albums from Scotty i'm sure when he falls in love, has kids, experiences death of someone close to him, etc. All those things happen as one grows. And everything I just said can apply to Taylor Swift and her album snapshots from a teenager til now in her early 20s. That is the definition of an album, the correct one!
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Post by carriekins on Dec 6, 2011 15:39:03 GMT -5
The definition of an album, sure. But not a "DEFINING" album - a game-changing album, so to speak. I think that's the point countryhistorian was trying to make.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 6, 2011 16:28:53 GMT -5
I love Clear As Day as a whole, but it should be very easy for him to top this album with better material as his talent and star power continue to grow.
While this song is very appropriate for his age, he proves with songs like Dirty Dishes that he can do better and still make it work being as he's still young.
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Post by McCreerian on Dec 13, 2011 19:58:38 GMT -5
Clear as Day Summary so far, 10 weeks out...
week 1 __ 197,000 debuted #1 week 2 __ 88,000 total to date 285,000 #1 country #4 all genre week 3 __ 57,000 total to date 342,000 to date #1 country #3 all genre week 4 __ 42,732 total to date 384,732k #2 country #7 all genres week 5 __41,003 total to date 425,735k #2 country #12 all genres week 6 __41,412 total to date 467,147k #2 country # 14 all genres week 7 __ 33,129 total to date 500,276k..CAD IS GOLD! week 8 __ 88,000total to date 588,276 #1 country #9 all genres sales increase of +181 %!!! week 9 __42,417 total to date 630,693 #2 country #11 all genres week 10 __54,343 total to date 684,343k #1 country #10 all genres
Thats pretty impressive for 10 weeks time in today's retail trends for Country.
And Scotty just broke to #25 in Billboard with TTWG, so close to top 20, I believe he'll do it sometime in January. Then hopefully soon after move on with that up tempo song that'll give him a chance at the top 10!
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 9, 2012 14:16:41 GMT -5
CAD is now Platinum! Congrats! Now if radio gets on board with the 3rd single heavily, the sky is the limit for this album in 2012! TTWG did get 6 adds today so it still looks like it has steam, a peak in the teens is likely! #23 on MB and BB for this week!
UMGNashville UMG Nashville Congratulations to @scottymccreery, his debut album, Clear As Day, is certified PLATINUM! clearasdayplatinum
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 9, 2012 14:56:42 GMT -5
^ Awesome! I'm glad his album has been selling so strongly! Hopefully radio does jump on board with an uptempo third single. I'd like to see this song squeak out a Top 20 peak in the next month or so and then they can abandon this for something more radio-friendly and get his airplay to match his stellar sales!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 19:22:54 GMT -5
This will hit the top 20 on the 2/11 Billboard chart on Monday. David Nail, Eden's Edge, and Sara Evans will all likely be going recurrent, and Hunter Hayes could join them, too. But Scotty only needs 3 of them to leave and that would boost him to #20, or #19 if all 4 leave. Rascal Flatts, Miranda, and even Tim are coming up from behind, and I suppose you could put Lee Brice into that group as well, but none of them will pass Scotty this week. Maybe in 2 weeks, RF and maybe Miranda will have moved ahead, but Scotty looks pretty much assured of at least making it up to #20.
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 25, 2012 19:41:28 GMT -5
I've had many doubts about this song since its release. Its easliy the least radio friendly song on the album. Mercury had to have reasons for releasing it, but thats something we'll never know. Even as a major fan I didn't expect it to make it past the top 30. I know luck is playing a part in it. I still don't expect it to make top 10 even tho the spins are still increasing relatively well. If it peaks where ILYTB did at #15 I'll be satisfied with it! Hopefully by March/April we'll see a fresh new uptempo that will gain better traction to take Scotty into the high realms of the chart for the first time. It has won him some new fans to a degree.
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 30, 2012 10:52:38 GMT -5
This is officially in the top 20 record books this week! I'm very pleased! Maybe now some of those stations who won't touch a song til it hits that mark will play it now. With its +300 bullet it sure seems that way. Something weird tho is happening with the song in Charlotte. WKKT is one of those stations, now that its there they are playing it 20 times a week instead of the less than 10 they were. Now our other station WSOC played it 15-20 times a week when it was in the 40s and 30s, now that its in the 20s and now top 20 they played it only 6 times last week. I asked them about it and they told me that they added Lauren's song so they are going to promote that instead. Help me out here, but is that not a wrong way of deciding whether to play a song? They did add "Peaches" today so they weren't lying to me! Thank God we have WKKT tho so I don't have to listen to WSOC and their nonsense. No wonder they are #2 in our market behind WKKT.
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Post by carriekins on Jan 30, 2012 11:40:28 GMT -5
... WSOC took the #1 spot back this quarter.
They both fluctuate their playlists on a weekly basis. I don't think either of them really pays attention to where a song is on the charts necessarily. WSOC is still playing James Wesley's "Didn't I?" in regular rotation and that went recurrent about a month ago.
I don't like either of our stations, but they're light-years better than WQDR in Raleigh. How that station was nominated for Station of the Year is beyond me. Ugh. (Though, if you want to hear Scotty, Raleigh is the place to be.)
End random Charlotte-market babble.
Personally, I don't like this song. I don't want to hear it on the radio, and turn it off when it comes on. The surveys I take reflect that. I also don't like Georgia Peaches, but between the two, I'd prefer the uptempo song pretty much every time.
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Post by blou on Jan 30, 2012 18:20:43 GMT -5
KYGO Denver is now playing TTWG twice during the day and once at night. This since it went top 20. They also play GP once during the night. KYGO was good to Scotty when he was here with the Paisley tour. High School kids love this song.... per my grandson.
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Post by someguy on Jan 30, 2012 21:49:02 GMT -5
He does manage to secure a #20 peak tonight, but I could see it dropping back to #22 or #23 next week, regardless of how well he gains. Lee Brice, Tim McGraw, Miranda Lambert and Rascal Flatts could all pass him next week, and only the ZBB will be going recurrent for sure. This might be as high as he gets.
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Post by blou on Jan 31, 2012 10:51:34 GMT -5
Can someone explain "recurrent"? ???
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 31, 2012 11:01:49 GMT -5
Can someone explain "recurrent"? ??? When a single drops out of the top ten due to spins or audience totals, Billboard considers it a recurrent and removes it from the chart. I hope this was helpful! Welcome to Pulse Music Board, blou!
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Post by Zazie on Jan 31, 2012 11:02:23 GMT -5
Can someone explain "recurrent"? ??? The major charts, Billboard and Mediabase, are compiled for people in the music business. Therefore, their main charts do NOT include songs that are still getting a lot of airplay but have been on the way down for a period of time. They believe their readers want to see a chart composed of songs on the way up, or songs that have just recently peaked and haven't been going down for a while. Therefore they pull off the chart songs that have been heading down for awhile. They still keep track of those songs' airplay but they don't list them on the charts anymore. (Otherwise, you'd never get to see the songs in the 41 to 60 range and identify possible future hits, because they would be outranked by songs that have been falling for the best part of a year.) The terms they use are "current" hits for songs that are listed and "recurrent" for those that have been pulled off because they've been heading down for awhile. For example, Billboard will take the former #1 hit by Zac Brown Band, Keep Me In Mind, off the chart next week even though its total audience would still rank it very high. Each chart has rules by which they decide when to take off songs on the way down. The rules can be very complicated and I'll save those for a later date, but at least I hope you have an idea of what "recurrent" status is. If you have more questions, feel free to ask them.
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Post by blou on Jan 31, 2012 14:31:29 GMT -5
Very interesting. Thank you both so much! :)
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Post by Arabella21 on Feb 1, 2012 16:42:45 GMT -5
Is #20 going to be this song's peak? I can't see this legging it out to Top 10. Maybe Top 15 like ILYTB? Whatever happens I'll be glad when they've moved on from this single.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 16:56:19 GMT -5
Is #20 going to be this song's peak? I can't see this legging it out to Top 10. Maybe Top 15 like ILYTB? Whatever happens I'll be glad when they've moved on from this single. #20 could be its peak. No way this makes the top 10, and even top 15 looks like it would be difficult. Scotty is still gaining audience, but he could be passed this week by the 4 songs behind him--Lee Brice's "A Woman Like You", Tim McGraw's "Better Than I Used To Be", Rascal Flatts' "Banjo", and Miranda Lambert's "Over You". They're all climbing faster, and could push ahead of Scotty. We will see, though. The ZBB's "Keep Me In Mind" will go recurrent from the top 10 on BB (it's already recurrent on MB), and Hunter Hayes, Brad Paisley, and Justin Moore all appear to be running out of steam. So it's possible that TTWG could stick around for a few more weeks and inch up a couple spots. I'm having trouble picturing him moving up from #20 this week, though, and it'll be a challenge just hanging on to #20, unless he gets some help from Hunter and/or Justin possibly going recurrent and/or holds off some of the songs behind him. But I think that all 4 of them will pass him within the next 2 weeks at most.
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Post by McCreerian on Feb 1, 2012 18:00:23 GMT -5
I agree. I thought of all those senerios as I was reading over the chart. #20 BB and #19 MB would be a justified peak for this song. I'm excited for the next single and going into March would be great timing to release the upbeat song everyone is wanting to hear from CAD. The rest of the top 20 looks like a brick wall for TTWG.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 22:27:02 GMT -5
Someone a while back pointed out that "You Make That Look Good" should be the next single, and I agree. I've recently fell in love with that song, and I think it's the best uptempo on the album. If there are only 2 more singles (I hope there's 3 more at least), I hope it's that one next, and then "Clear As Day".
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Post by kml567 on Feb 2, 2012 23:04:33 GMT -5
Did he sing "You Make That Look Good" during his tour opening for Brad Paisley? Whichever uptempo song he sang is likely the 3rd single. Any idea what songs he sang on tour?
I still think "Out of Summertime" is his most radio friendly sounding song....too bad the title of the song made it difficult for release as a 2nd single (winter time) and 3rd single (spring time).
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Post by McCreerian on Feb 2, 2012 23:26:28 GMT -5
Yes he sings that 2nd in his set opening for Brad and he also sang it here in his solo concert in California. www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7yAfGVTtm8I have a very good feeling this is gonna be the next single! It has top 10 written all over. If its released around March/April it won't really impact radio hard til the start of Summer as slow as the chart moves, and I could see this being a great "driving song" to hear on the radio during the warm months! btw here is another song from that concert, covering Travis Tritt for the finale! I honestly think Scotty is even better at uptempo songs than ballads. I don't know what Mercury was thinking trying to break him at radio with 2 ballads back to back! www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfYQCza9Izc&feature=related
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Post by cufan7 on Feb 7, 2012 13:56:00 GMT -5
I think "Out Of Summertime" will be his best bet myself. Follow that one up with "Clear As Day".
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 7, 2012 14:15:35 GMT -5
I found this album for $2 at a Salvation Army store up in Marquette. Surprising. Wonder if someone just got a duplicate for Christmas or something.
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Post by McCreerian on Feb 8, 2012 20:54:36 GMT -5
Scotty just posted this on Twitter
ScottyMcCreery Scotty McCreery HUGE thanks to all the fans and country radio! "The Trouble With Girls" is now GOLD! Hope you're enjoying the music! Love yall!
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Post by Arabella21 on Feb 8, 2012 21:20:12 GMT -5
Top 20 and Gold are nice achievements for a song like this. On to the next single, please! (Not right this second but soon...)
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Post by McCreerian on Feb 8, 2012 22:04:36 GMT -5
As much as I'd love to see a new single, TTWG keeps gaining at a pretty good pace in the last couple weeks, it seems more every day (despite the drop from 20 to 22 on BB this week). I know Hunter's song did this too before it hit the wall in the mid teens for the last 2 months and its just now finally starting to fall this week. Hopefully Scotty's song will either make it bigger fast and peak, or just start to fall. Really it could go either way. But I feel by Mid March/April this song will be done one way or the other and IF he gets ACM airtime for performance and/or a nom for best new artist, then they will use that platform to debut the 3rd single.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 8, 2012 22:43:30 GMT -5
Eh, this made it to Gold and just squeaked out a Top 20 peak. I'd say its the perfect time to be satisfied with what he's accomplished with this single and move on to something that's going to actually do things for him in the long-run and get him that Top 10 hit. This may steadily gain enough to move up a few more notches in the coming months, but its not going to do anything more letting this drag out. Its time to stick a knife in this and bring on an up-tempo tbqh.
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