HolidayGuy
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 23, 2011 21:08:00 GMT -5
lugus, I've inquired with Billboard to see if they can find out why SS doesn't include Christian-outlet sales in the to-date tallies on the chart- I've inquired again, to see if there's been any headway.
Billboard, supposedly, does include those sales when reporting sales numbers, and for year-end charts and such.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2011 0:54:33 GMT -5
What do you expect them to say? soundscan charts are not open to the public. This should not even be something you know about.
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lugus15
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Post by lugus15 on Sept 24, 2011 2:55:21 GMT -5
lugus, I've inquired with Billboard to see if they can find out why SS doesn't include Christian-outlet sales in the to-date tallies on the chart- I've inquired again, to see if there's been any headway. Billboard, supposedly, does include those sales when reporting sales numbers, and for year-end charts and such. Thanks. @ 2m, I really don't understand why Soundscan is so secretive about their ¨charts¨ and ¨sales info¨. I mean the film industry provides sales numbers readily.
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Post by Push The Button on Sept 24, 2011 3:45:29 GMT -5
People pay a lot of money for those numbers.
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HolidayGuy
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 24, 2011 9:02:31 GMT -5
Billboard has access to the charts- hence, BB would be the one inquiring. :) I've pointed a number of items out to BB in the past that it was appreciative of, so no qualms about inquiring on this matter, which is a practice rather than hard-sales information.
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Post by deuce8pro on Sept 24, 2011 11:45:31 GMT -5
Billboard 200 Albums Chart [SoundScan Week Ending September 18, 2011] 14 38 38 26 * EVANCHO*JACKIE DREAM WITH ME 15516 69 9197 473640 I really hate that Billboard doesn't report the full sales of those albums that are Christian/are sold on Christian outlets (even tho I'm not Christian myself). For instance the REAL sales of this album are 490,236 My count is 489805 and out of that in christian outlet sales 16165. That doesnt even include sales of the cd through PBS. The PBS special was a huge success. The dvd of it went to #1 on the Music DVD chart. Im pretty sure Soundscan doesnt count the PBS cd sales but what about the RIAA? Does that go towards the platinum? The question many Jackie fans have been asking is when is Dream with Me gonna be certified platinum? The christmas cd coming out supposedly on Nov 1st should help.
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Post by guyl44 on Sept 24, 2011 12:17:07 GMT -5
^ I think the RIAA counts shipments to those outlets, correct me if I'm wrong though. I've also always found it weird that SS doesn't count totals from Christian outlets... I mean, why? LOL unless there's something unusual with the pricing in these stores (and even that's a bit of a stretch) there's no reason not to count them.
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HolidayGuy
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 24, 2011 16:05:25 GMT -5
^It wouldn't be so much an issue if SS didn't count the totals from Christian outlets AT ALL. But, those sales are included in the weekly sums, so it's bizarre that SS wouldn't include them in the to-date tallies.
Shipments too all outlets are applied to RIAA certs.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 24, 2011 22:19:33 GMT -5
How many albums debuted/re-entered this week?
Which albums fell off?
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Post by Caviar on Sept 25, 2011 21:19:14 GMT -5
Burlesque is showing amazing longevity.
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HolidayGuy
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 26, 2011 8:42:10 GMT -5
Update on the Christian-outlet sale and RTD numbers: SoundScan plans to include Christian-outlet sales in to-date totals within the next six months. You heard it here first.
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Post by Arabella21 on Sept 26, 2011 11:23:41 GMT -5
Update on the Christian-outlet sale and RTD numbers: SoundScan plans to include Christian-outlet sales in to-date totals within the next six months. You heard it here first. Good. It seems like it would be more work to subtract out the Christian outlet sales every week than to just keep them as part of the cumulative totals. 34 83 87 108 VARIOUS COUNTRY STRONG (ORIGINAL MOTIO 4599 -7 4927 347649
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