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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 19:35:11 GMT -5
This one is really struggling. Bullet is down to -70 on Mediabase now, and I'm wondering if they're going to give up? She lost 100k this morning as well, which puts this down 167k after 2 days so far this week. She didn't have a bullet on the 1/28 chart, but managed to barely re-bullet on the 2/4 chart, so she's guaranteed at least 2 more weeks on the chart, but things aren't looking very good for this at all.
Which is unfortunate because even a small gain this week would allow her to set a new peak, with several songs set to finally go recurrent. Instead, a couple steps backward, and she runs the risk of being passed by the Eli Young Band, the Zac Brown Band, and possibly someone like Dustin Lynch and/or Josh Turner. Lauren started the week with 2.6 million AI's on Billboard, but if she falls closer to 2.4 or 2.3, I could see the EYB and the ZBB catching her by the end of the week.
The good news, for Lauren that is (if there is any good news), is that the songs immediately behind her aren't doing anything really, so even if she gets passed by a few songs, she could still move up a couple spots due to some songs going recurrent. The songs right behind this--Trace Adkins' "Million Dollar View" and The Farm's "Home Sweet Home"--aren't mounting any threats right now. The EYB and Dustin Lynch are at #41 & #42 on the 2/4 BB chart, and I already mentioned them (along with the ZBB and maybe Josh Turner) as possibilities to catch Lauren by the end of the week (especially if she keeps losing audience), but #43 Love & Theft isn't likely to crack 2 million this week, even with a debut on Bob Kingsley's CT40 on tap.
This one's current peak is #37. If 4 songs (David, Hunter, Eden's Edge, Sara) from up ahead go recurrent, that would move Lauren from her #38 ranking to #34, and it's doubtful she'll pass Rodney or Gloriana, who are just ahead of her. However, if a couple songs from behind her get ahead, that would push her back again.
So if they wanted to get as high as #34, the opportunity is there, but she'd have to gain some audience later this week and at least try to stay level, otherwise she'll probably be looking at something in the 35-37 range if a couple songs (EYB, ZBB, etc) get ahead by the end of the week.
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Post by McCreerian on Jan 25, 2012 19:46:54 GMT -5
I really hoped this would make the top 20. Maybe it shoulda waited for a warm weather release? "Dirt Road Prayer" is the hidden gem. I'm wondering if that'd been released and then GP, it that'd of made any difference.
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Post by layne on Jan 25, 2012 22:48:03 GMT -5
I must say, I'm stunned that this song is struggling this bad. It sounds good on radio to me. I'm also disappointed that the Gloriana single is just ahead of it and also struggling. Both songs have been barely getting any adds for the past couple of weeks.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Jan 25, 2012 22:56:06 GMT -5
Oh no :( Lauren really needs to breakthrough! Her album is stellar and one of my favorites from last year. Dirt Road Prayer, Eighteen Inches and Tupelo are all smashes waiting to happen. I don't understand why this isn't taking off. Lauren is everywhere right now! The song is pretty catchy and the hook is great so I can't imagine why this is struggling. I hope it's not too late for her to get a breakthrough hit. I don't want her to disappear
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 23:15:00 GMT -5
If this song fails, then she still has 4 songs left to fall back on that radio will hopefully pick up on:
Dirt Road Prayer, Eighteen Inches, Tupelo, or She's A Wildflower
Heck, even The Locket or Growing Her Wings could be decent releases. I really don't know why this song hasn't taken off very well. She's been getting great promotion and now she's touring, so I hope the tide turns in her favor for her real soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 2:40:33 GMT -5
Well, Lauren was able to rebound during the 2nd half of the week, and although her 165k gain on Billboard wasn't a huge one, she was able to move up 4 spots to a new peak of #35, narrowly holding off the Zac Brown Band. They'll get ahead of her this week, of course, and Josh Turner could as well. But at least 2 top 30 songs (ZBB's "Keep Me In Mind" and Faith Hill's "Come Home") will be going recurrent, so even if the new ZBB single and Josh Turner's latest are able to get ahead of Lauren, she might not backslide.
The good news is that Mercury had another big ad for this in tonight's Country Aircheck Weekly issue, and "Georgia Peaches" picked up 7 new station adds this past week, so it's still growing, albeit slowly.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 9, 2012 18:26:28 GMT -5
Lauren Alaina stopped by on American Idol last night to deliver a performance of "Georgia Peaches." Catch it here if you missed it:
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Post by StillTheSame on Mar 9, 2012 19:27:11 GMT -5
She was hot on AI - I really cannot wait for the Sugarland tour to start next month; she's gonna fit in GREAT. :)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 21:17:48 GMT -5
How is this doing on the charts?
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Post by Kurt on Mar 9, 2012 21:25:51 GMT -5
How is this doing on the charts? 32 31 LAUREN ALAINA Georgia Peaches 19/Interscope/Mercury 2011 944 869 75
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 9, 2012 23:36:17 GMT -5
Maybe it'll pick up now that Scotty's song is going recurrent. There are still some PDs and DJs out there they are lumping the 2 together and won't play their songs at the same time in regular rotation. I know, I talked to a DJ in my area about a month ago who told me this exact thing. Sad really since they are 2 seperate artists!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 23:37:44 GMT -5
I'm sure that, with the Idol performance, the song will finally crack the Top 30. I'd also guess that it'll have a big increase in sales. ...wishful thinking.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 9, 2012 23:41:45 GMT -5
I'm sure that, with the Idol performance, the song will finally crack the Top 30. I'd also guess that it'll have a big increase in sales. ...wishful thinking. A sales increase is a given, but there's also a good chance it could help with its visibility on radio. I think you are right that this will at least make the Top 30; its just outside right now (judging by the info Trombones13 posted), and looks to be hanging in there. Granted, it needs to really start picking up soon. If it does, I think it could be a possible Top 20 contender down the road. But it needs to speed things up if it wants to get there.
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Post by Kurt on Mar 10, 2012 0:07:07 GMT -5
I'm sure that, with the Idol performance, the song will finally crack the Top 30. I'd also guess that it'll have a big increase in sales. ...wishful thinking. A sales increase is a given, but there's also a good chance it could help with its visibility on radio. I think you are right that this will at least make the Top 30; its just outside right now (judging by the info Trombones13 posted), and looks to be hanging in there. Granted, it needs to really start picking up soon. If it does, I think it could be a possible Top 20 contender down the road. But it needs to speed things up if it wants to get there. It's 122 spins away from #29. For some reason, though, #29 (Jana Kramer) has fewer spins than #30 (Andy Gibson); I guess that must be due to audience impressions for Jana being higher. 31 29 JANA KRAMER Why Ya Wanna 1066 900 166 6.768 29 30 ANDY GIBSON Wanna Make You Love ... 1181 1144 37 6.743 32 31 LAUREN ALAINA Georgia Peaches 944 869 75 5.062
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 10, 2012 0:09:25 GMT -5
^ Yeah, the country chart placements go by the audience impression totals rather than spins, which I think is the opposite of the other genre charts that Billboard publishes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 0:10:04 GMT -5
Yeah, then after this Idol performance, it shouldn't have any trouble hitting the Top 30 (finally!).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 0:17:22 GMT -5
It's 122 spins away from #29. For some reason, though, #29 (Jana Kramer) has fewer spins than #30 (Andy Gibson); I guess that must be due to audience impressions for Jana being higher. The country Mediabase chart uses a points system. The formula includes both spins and audience, but there is a sort of "weight" factor placed on different stations that factors into the formula as well and makes it impossible for anyone to know just how it works, even if we basically understand it. It's possible for song A to be ahead of song B, even if song B has more spins AND audience. That's why I prefer Billboard It'll probably be a little bit yet before Lauren can crack the Billboard top 30. She's currently at #32 on Billboard, with 3.846 million AI's, but #31 Andy Gibson is far ahead, with 5.229 million. He's down a bit on Mediabase this week, and Billboard could conceivably send him recurrent on Monday, but I'm thinking he'll hang on. And, if so, it will take quite a bit for Lauren to make up that gap, considering she's only at about 3.9 million after 19 weeks. Positions 28-30 are occupied by Gloriana, Rodney Atkins, and Jana Kramer, and they are all likely out of reach for Lauren. Chris Young and Martina McBride will both be going recurrent from Billboard's top 10 this week, and Scotty could drop off as well, so that'd be 3 spots Lauren can gain. However, Luke Bryan will soar past and into the top 30, and I'm not convinced she can hold off Dustin Lynch, either. If she holds off Dustin, she could move up to #30 (she'd need Scotty to go recurrent as well), but if he gets by, she'll likely be at #31 and have to wait one more chart until she can crack Billboard's top 30. I don't know if this will go top 20--they'll have to stick with it for a while yet--but it should go top 30 and maybe can get into the mid/low 20's, if not top 20.
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Post by Kurt on Mar 10, 2012 0:38:11 GMT -5
It's 122 spins away from #29. For some reason, though, #29 (Jana Kramer) has fewer spins than #30 (Andy Gibson); I guess that must be due to audience impressions for Jana being higher. The country Mediabase chart uses a points system. The formula includes both spins and audience, but there is a sort of "weight" factor placed on different stations that factors into the formula as well and makes it impossible for anyone to know just how it works, even if we basically understand it. It's possible for song A to be ahead of song B, even if song B has more spins AND audience. That's why I prefer Billboard It'll probably be a little bit yet before Lauren can crack the Billboard top 30. She's currently at #32 on Billboard, with 3.846 million AI's, but #31 Andy Gibson is far ahead, with 5.229 million. He's down a bit on Mediabase this week, and Billboard could conceivably send him recurrent on Monday, but I'm thinking he'll hang on. And, if so, it will take quite a bit for Lauren to make up that gap, considering she's only at about 3.9 million after 19 weeks. Positions 28-30 are occupied by Gloriana, Rodney Atkins, and Jana Kramer, and they are all likely out of reach for Lauren. Chris Young and Martina McBride will both be going recurrent from Billboard's top 10 this week, and Scotty could drop off as well, so that'd be 3 spots Lauren can gain. However, Luke Bryan will soar past and into the top 30, and I'm not convinced she can hold off Dustin Lynch, either. If she holds off Dustin, she could move up to #30 (she'd need Scotty to go recurrent as well), but if he gets by, she'll likely be at #31 and have to wait one more chart until she can crack Billboard's top 30. I don't know if this will go top 20--they'll have to stick with it for a while yet--but it should go top 30 and maybe can get into the mid/low 20's, if not top 20. And just when I thought I was starting to understand all of these charts a bit more, haha. Thanks for the explanation. :)
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Post by mairy on Mar 10, 2012 12:34:18 GMT -5
She's been recording background vocals for the upcoming Aerosmith album.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Mar 13, 2012 13:40:10 GMT -5
I don't remember if it even made top 40, but did Kristy Lee Cook's 15 Minutes of Shame do better than this?
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 13, 2012 13:41:59 GMT -5
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 13, 2012 16:37:29 GMT -5
I thought 15 Minutes of Shame was a decent song, myself.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Mar 13, 2012 17:30:52 GMT -5
I liked 15 Minutes of Shame, I just hated the "Jason" namedrop near the end, almost killed the song for me.
Do we know what they're looking at on Lauren's album as future singles? I hope her and Scotty both have the right choices made next go around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2012 17:32:10 GMT -5
Top 30!
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 13, 2012 17:37:11 GMT -5
I liked 15 Minutes of Shame, I just hated the "Jason" namedrop near the end, almost killed the song for me. Do we know what they're looking at on Lauren's album as future singles? I hope her and Scotty both have the right choices made next go around. Well the only song she performed at the CRS was "Dirt Road Prayer" so that could be a clue. And Scotty only sang "You Make that Look Good" and that is also the only other song he performed with TTWG on the coming GAC TV Special for the ACM new artists. Also his father told me a couple months ago that this was most likely going to be the next single. I think both choices for Lauren and Scotty will be the best ones. There are some radio stations however that still refuse to play both Lauren and Scotty at the same time. One here in my state flat out told me when I requested both GP and TTWG that "We are letting TTWG go now and promoting GP instead" and this was in December. Since then they have reversed that and play TTWG quite a bit. I think its so unfair that some still want to lump them together. They never were like a Brooks and Dunn, they were both always their own solo artists. That would be sad if this is what keeps them from getting massive hits cause they do have some songs worthy of it. And both "DRP" and "YMTLG" fit that category.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 13, 2012 19:32:19 GMT -5
I still am not hearing Dirt Road Prayer's potential like everyone else is. It just sounds like its too slow and not radio friendly enough. Yeah its the same sort of vein as a song like THTBM, but Miranda was really starting to catch on fire there with White Liar, so it had the perfect platform. Unless Georgia Peaches makes a run for the Top 2 (which I'm definitely not seeing as a possibility unless major changes happen), I can't see DRP smashing hard. I feel like she'd be much safer releasing a song like Growing Her Wings (my personal fave) or Tupelo (which seems to be a popular choice) next.
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Post by McCreerian on Mar 13, 2012 19:34:49 GMT -5
GHW and Tupelo are also both excellent choices. Those are the other 2 I've pegged from the start as potential singles. GHW reminds me of Faith Hill's "Wild One" and Tupelo just has a cool groove to it.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 13, 2012 19:41:49 GMT -5
GHW and Tupelo are also both excellent choices. Those are the other 2 I've pegged from the start as potential singles. GHW reminds me of Faith Hill's "Wild One" and Tupelo just has a cool groove to it. I don't like the word Tupelo, because of the way its pronounced. ngl I expected it to be a little more Italian-sounding like 'tuppello,' but I was disappointed to find that wasn't the case and it grates on me a bit. Not one of my favorites on the record personally (though neither is GP), but I can't argue it would be a much better choice than DRP (which I personally prefer, but wouldn't advise its release). Still, for me, GHW would be a win-win as its my personal favorite on the record and a radio friendly cut to boot! ;)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2012 22:05:42 GMT -5
I really like "Tupelo". I have no problem with how it's pronounced, since it's named after a city. It'd be my personal choice, as I love the spring/summer vibe to it and I think it's far better than "Georgia Peaches". GP has done ok, but I think a song like "Tupelo" would appeal a bit more to different demographics...I feel like GP is a pretty good song, but it's probably a bit too sassy for the demographics other than teens/twenties, etc. As in, people in the older demos probably don't relate to it as well.
Not sure if "Georgia Peaches" can get any higher, either. It's on pace to get passed by both The Farm and Dustin Lynch this week, and possibly Alan Jackson as well. Keith Urban will go recurrent, and Kenny could as well, but I just don't see how Lauren will be able to climb much higher than this. She'd have to triple her audience total just to make the top 20, and there's a huge gap (more than 1.3 million) between her and the #29 song, Andy Gibson's debut single, so she has almost no chance of passing anyone ahead of her other than eventual recurrents. And for every song that disappears, she'll probably be passed by another song from below. Maybe she can slip through the cracks and climb a few spots higher before all is said and done, but for this next 3/31 chart, I don't expect her to improve from her #30 position, and she might actually slip back a spot or two.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 13, 2012 22:17:45 GMT -5
I really like "Tupelo". I have no problem with how it's pronounced, since it's named after a city. I'm well aware of this, but it doesn't stop it from irking me. There's a lot of ridiculous pronounciations of city names here in the U.S. Like here in Kansas we have an El Dorado, but its not pronounced like the city of gold, but like 'el doraydo.' I hadn't heard of the city before hearing the song, so I didn't know how it was going to be pronounced. And now that I do, I'm disappointed. Toopelow is not a catchy word for a song to be built around, for me.
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