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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 19:21:46 GMT -5
@♫Fan: off topic, but do you like Britney Spears ???
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Post by ♫.Fan on Oct 30, 2011 19:28:25 GMT -5
^^ Yeah I am indifferent of her as a artist/performer but I like a good amount of music by her. The comments I wrote about are her all what came from her mouth, and shown on the charts right now.
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 30, 2011 20:07:25 GMT -5
Oh god. When did that come back?
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Post by ingrownhairdyke on Oct 30, 2011 20:17:31 GMT -5
2. Just watch America Idol, and her #1 smash hit show The Voice, and people around the world, and other artists like Demi, and even flop fads like Gaga try to mimic her voice, and the way she sings. Nobody wants to mimic a manatee. Sorry about it. Tell that to all the up and coming singers. Christina's songs are always covered and performed like crazy on those shows.
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Post by ingrownhairdyke on Oct 30, 2011 20:20:55 GMT -5
^Except DIL sold more than Stripped both in the US and worldwide, so.... US- YES. Worldwide? - NO. Stripped has sold/shipped 10-11 million WW DIL tops at 8 million WW. US+UK for STRIPPED sales alone are more than 6 million.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 30, 2011 20:33:50 GMT -5
BTW, the Grammy folks have asked Christina to perform on the award show six times in the past decade. Many more performances to come, I am sure!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 20:58:27 GMT -5
Nobody wants to mimic a manatee. Sorry about it. Tell that to all the up and coming singers. Christina's songs are always covered and performed like crazy on those shows. Cover ≠ mimic.
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Post by Caviar on Oct 30, 2011 21:31:32 GMT -5
BTW, the Grammy folks have asked Christina to perform on the award show six times in the past decade. Many more performances to come, I am sure! Exactly. Christina is highly respected amongst her peers and it's widely known on this board that she isn't a favorite and I'm OK with that, but that doesn't mean I won't defend her. Is Christina a legend? No. Is she a highly respected artist? Yes. Is she musically relevant? That's debatable on who you ask but IMO hell YES. It's tempting to debate back and forth with some members on this board but what keeps me smiling is that NO ONE knows what the future holds. But if I was a betting man, and I am, I would say Christina is setting herself up for a nice "comeback" next year well after this thread is long gone. One thing Christina has that few of the artists out today is VOCAL talent that no one can take away from her.
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Post by repentyourself on Oct 31, 2011 2:44:36 GMT -5
But how is she relevant though? The only thing that could possibly be used to defend that is MLJ, which she's on for literally 20 seconds. That's like saying Nayer and Lauren Bennett are relevant... At this points she's further than a legend, and a way, way, way better singer than Whitney, Celine, and Mariah (Celine even agrees, and Whitney wouldn't be here right now without her). Now boo, we all know you're a flop troll from After LD, but this is just tew much...
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Oct 31, 2011 3:37:09 GMT -5
She is relevant due to her vocals and the time frame she came out which created many manufactured pop artists. She was the stand-out in that crowd along with Britney but her's was due to her singing ability. It was unexpected. She's that artist that will be singing for YEARS. While a lot of these of these other artists that came out during and after her time will falter she will still have the one thing that makes her relevant. Whether it degrades or not she will still be remembered for certain vocal moments.
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Post by PDC1987 on Oct 31, 2011 10:10:37 GMT -5
She is relevant due to her vocals and the time frame she came out which created many manufactured pop artists. She was the stand-out in that crowd along with Britney but her's was due to her singing ability. It was unexpected. She's that artist that will be singing for YEARS. While a lot of these of these other artists that came out during and after her time will falter she will still have the one thing that makes her relevant. Whether it degrades or not she will still be remembered for certain vocal moments. That voice is only relevant if people care about it, and judging by Xtina's career trajectory they were less and less enamored with it each era and now don't care at all.
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 31, 2011 10:36:53 GMT -5
At this points she's further than a legend, and a way, way, way better singer than Whitney, Celine, and Mariah (Celine even agrees, and Whitney wouldn't be here right now without her). Reported.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 31, 2011 10:40:57 GMT -5
She is relevant due to her vocals and the time frame she came out which created many manufactured pop artists. She was the stand-out in that crowd along with Britney but her's was due to her singing ability. It was unexpected. She's that artist that will be singing for YEARS. While a lot of these of these other artists that came out during and after her time will falter she will still have the one thing that makes her relevant. Whether it degrades or not she will still be remembered for certain vocal moments. That voice is only relevant if people care about it, and judging by Xtina's career trajectory they were less and less enamored with it each era and now don't care at all. It's the opposite actually. In the beginning some people felt her vocals were too over the top, e.g., her Christmas album. "Beautiful" from the next era, done in one take, blew everyone away. "Fighter" showed she could do rock too and then "A Song For You" and her Nina Simone tribute followed and showed she can do jazz. "Save Me From Myself" and her acclaimed James Brown tribute, showed even more range. Her vocals on recent songs like the Golden Globe-nominated Bound to You" and smash "Move Like Jagger" have been praised as well as "Smile" from the Michael Jackson tribute incorporating use of Seth Riggs' techniques.
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 31, 2011 10:43:23 GMT -5
That voice is only relevant if people care about it, and judging by Xtina's career trajectory they were less and less enamored with it each era and now don't care at all. It's the opposite actually. In the beginning some people felt her vocals were too over the top, e.g., her Christmas album. "Beautiful" from the next era, done in one take, blew everyone away. "Fighter" showed she could do rock too and then "A Song For You" and her Nina Simone tribute followed and showed she can do jazz. "Save Me From Myself" and her acclaimed James Brown tribute, showed even more range. Her vocals on recent songs like Bound to You" and "Move Like Jagger" have been praised as well as "Smile" from the Michael Jackson tribute incorporating use of Seth Riggs' techniques. That's not really what he was saying though. People that are listening to her stuff could, more or less, have the opinions you outlined. But people in general are listening to her less and less, so to say her vocals alone are keeping her relevant isn't really true. If people don't listen to her, their opinion of her voice will diminish.
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Post by PDC1987 on Oct 31, 2011 10:46:43 GMT -5
Correct. I thought that post was pretty straightforward, but apparently not.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 31, 2011 10:52:07 GMT -5
It's the opposite actually. In the beginning some people felt her vocals were too over the top, e.g., her Christmas album. "Beautiful" from the next era, done in one take, blew everyone away. "Fighter" showed she could do rock too and then "A Song For You" and her Nina Simone tribute followed and showed she can do jazz. "Save Me From Myself" and her acclaimed James Brown tribute, showed even more range. Her vocals on recent songs like Bound to You" and "Move Like Jagger" have been praised as well as "Smile" from the Michael Jackson tribute incorporating use of Seth Riggs' techniques. That's not really what he was saying though. People that are listening to her stuff could, more or less, have the opinions you outlined. But people in general are listening to her less and less, so to say her vocals alone are keeping her relevant isn't really true. If people don't listen to her, their opinion of her voice will diminish. 150,000,000 audience impressions doesn't mean that no one is hearing her voice.
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 31, 2011 10:54:31 GMT -5
That's not really what he was saying though. People that are listening to her stuff could, more or less, have the opinions you outlined. But people in general are listening to her less and less, so to say her vocals alone are keeping her relevant isn't really true. If people don't listen to her, their opinion of her voice will diminish. 150,000,000 audience impressions doesn't mean that no one is hearing her voice. And 150,000,000 audience impressions of people listening to a Maroon 5 song in which Christina appears for 20 seconds doesn't mean people are suddenly into her voice again and are pondering how her voice has changed and developed over the years and that, well by God yes!, she is a legend. Not sure why I expected a reasonable response from you, but now that you've brought me back to reality, I'll be bowing out of this joke of a thread.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Oct 31, 2011 10:57:09 GMT -5
I get the sad feeling that these guys truly believe what they're posting and aren't just trolling.
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Post by PDC1987 on Oct 31, 2011 11:20:49 GMT -5
Oh Luckie Starchild is definitely dead serious. And if you think this is bad, you should see him in action during his Cher stanning.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Oct 31, 2011 13:40:47 GMT -5
Can we just agree that Christina's musical cultural contribution is her VOICE and that is what she will be remembered for, but that her cultural impact RANK among her peers is somewhere near the middle?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 13:43:55 GMT -5
There's nothing culturally relevant about someone's voice unless it's something that sets them apart from what others have done. Vocal comparisons are always drawn to Whitney and Mariah. People STILL draw references to girls sounding like Whitney and Mariah. They're the standard. People don't say "Oh well she's no Christina Aguilera!"
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Post by remix on Oct 31, 2011 13:59:16 GMT -5
Burlesque sold almost as much as Feme Fatale even without an official single and above a million copies worldwide.
Deal with it.
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Oct 31, 2011 14:03:21 GMT -5
Oh wow, people really are obsessed with meaningless titles. Icon, legend, etc are all empty titles which are highly subjective. Anyone can deem anyone they personally like as a legend, but it won't change the fact that you look highly deluded if you give that title to someone who you have a bias to and are thus blind to the fact that said person's career is in the toilet and whose 'legacy' is currently tainted by piss-poor career moves. Real talk.
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Post by spooky21 on Oct 31, 2011 14:15:01 GMT -5
BTW, the Grammy folks have asked Christina to perform on the award show six times in the past decade. Many more performances to come, I am sure! Weak argument. There are tons of artists that are asked to perform each year and simply don't because of a host of reasons. Claiming that because she's performing a lot because she's an icon could totally be flipped into an argument that everybody else is declining and Christina is the only one with time on her hands.
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on Oct 31, 2011 15:03:20 GMT -5
Burlesque sold almost as much as Feme Fatale even without an official single and above a million copies worldwide. Deal with it. I love how her fans are trying to make everything she is featured, as her own projects. Burlesque is not Christina's album Moves like jagger is not Christina's song The Voice is not Christina's show Deal with it. Oh and the movie seen by like millions of people is a good promo I think
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Post by ♫.Fan on Oct 31, 2011 15:19:30 GMT -5
^^ - Billboard counts the Burlesque Soundtrack sales for X like it also does for the other legend Whitney for The Bodyguard. - Billboard has rules for features, and states it as another classic #1 for X, and all those digital sales go to her too. - The main producer said she's the voice, and wanted her, the show revolves around X. She saved the network, and made the show #1.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 15:22:35 GMT -5
Christina saved NBC?
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 31, 2011 15:30:52 GMT -5
^^ - Billboard counts the Burlesque Soundtrack sales for X like it also does for the other legend Whitney for The Bodyguard. - Billboard has rules for features, and states it as another classic #1 for X, and all those digital sales go to her too. - The main producer said she's the voice, and wanted her, the show revolves around X. She saved the network, and made the show #1. Try again. I honestly have no idea why you post. You never have any idea of what you're talking about.
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on Oct 31, 2011 15:41:13 GMT -5
you didn't know that :o. She also saved Superbowl, McDonald's and clothing industry. I've never disliked Christina, she is talented, have a great voice, but her fans
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Post by think pink. on Oct 31, 2011 18:18:07 GMT -5
you didn't know that :o. She also saved Superbowl, McDonald's and clothing industry.
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