Billboard 200: 11/26/11: Mac Miller No. 1- 144,000

[TGIF]

Nov 17, 2011 10:07:24 GMT -5 when the pawn... said:

Impressive that Scotty McCreery has sold 465k before the official holiday season begins.

Gaga needs some serious promo. It'd really help if she performed at the AMAs.

its so weird that BTW is already making such big drops & declines when it isnt even 6 months old! gaga implied this was gonna be a long era but if something doesnt give soon then idk how that will happen

the thanksgiving will help it keep afloat for the rest of the year & theres a ton of pressure on MTN b/c it has to be really big for this era to continue to the next year ... & remember its a 5th single & she hasnt been a radio it girl this era

[areyoureadytojump]

Nov 18, 2011 11:58:10 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

^Thanks for posting the breakdown. CDs accounted for 68.5% of all album sales last week; the prior week, they accounted for almost 66.6% of all album sales. Part of that could be consumers preferring to pick up holiday music on CD rather than digital.

You are welcome.

I post this each week to show people that the cd is not dead.

There is an article going around the web that labels are abandoning the cd in late 2012. The article is false.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

I think Gaga should just stop this era and move on after this single. How many songs can you release from one album? She has like 4 singles already....granted all of them hit the Top 10 but I think she should move on after this rather than try to do a remix album.

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Nov 18, 2011 12:06:41 GMT -5 Agent Yoncé said:

Nov 17, 2011 10:07:24 GMT -5 when the pawn... said:

Impressive that Scotty McCreery has sold 465k before the official holiday season begins.

Gaga needs some serious promo. It'd really help if she performed at the AMAs.

Promo isn't the issue w/Gaga. She's been all over the place. Lol. She needs a hit that's gonna sell that album. Her last 2 didn't really do anything for her.

Yeah, this. This album has already gotten an immense of exposure to the public, they're not unaware of it by any means. The problem is that the singles haven't been sticking that well so the wheels of the era have sort of come off a bit quickly with nothing to sustain the initial hype. If any song will do it though, it's "Marry The Night". I agree with Adonis that she should just move on after this single, especially if this doesn't end well.

EDIT: Damn she's #70?!

[areyoureadytojump]

Crossed the 1 million scanned mark this week:

144 RASCAL FLATTS NOTHING LIKE THIS 4,060 +20% 3,385 1,001,337 (1xp)

[Deleted]

Nov 18, 2011 15:45:36 GMT -5 @swella said:

Damn she's #70?!

On the bright side, at least she'll hit 1,9 million next week, presumably.

[ListenToItTwice]

Billboard 200 in descending order by sales to date:

178 BEATLES BEATLES 1 3465 11927602
95 * PINK FLOYD DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 5971 9205389
185 SEGER*BOB GREATEST HITS 3380 9090045
137 * SWIFT*TAYLOR FEARLESS 4336 6397370
153 U2 ACHTUNG BABY 3910 5555924
75 * GROBAN*JOSH NOEL 7976 5292635
142 * CAREY*MARIAH MERRY CHRISTMAS 4068 5130798
159 * JACKSON*MICHAEL NUMBER ONES 3798 4643163
5 ADELE 21 104200 4420021
114 EMINEM RECOVERY 5024 4077938

51 * SWIFT*TAYLOR SPEAK NOW 11892 3736989
166 * LED ZEPPELIN LED ZEPPELIN 4 3640 3733312
96 * LADY ANTEBELLUM NEED YOU NOW 5954 3709104
197 * GUARALDI*VINCE TRIO CHARLIE BROWN CHRISTMAS 3260 3015498
115 BIEBER*JUSTIN MY WORLD 2.0 5013 2952753
182 WILLIAMS*HANK JR. VOL. 1-GREATEST HITS 3426 2905035
117 * MANNHEIM STEAMROLLER CHRISTMAS EXTRAORDINAIRE 4902 2785503
103 * BROWN*ZAC BAND FOUNDATION 5309 2770778
62 * BOCELLI*ANDREA MY CHRISTMAS 9436 2607780
121 LYNYRD SKYNYRD BEST OF LYNYRD SKYNYRD-MILLENN 4783 2602406
163 WINEHOUSE*AMY BACK TO BLACK 3699 2485509
184 NELSON*WILLIE SUPER HITS 3384 2223505
131 * TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA LOST CHRISTMAS EVE 4476 2121517
36 * BOYLE*SUSAN THE GIFT 14539 200000+
20 * ALDEAN*JASON MY KINDA PARTY 27193 2003257


56 MUMFORD & SONS SIGH NO MORE 10971 1908638
70 LADY GAGA BORN THIS WAY 8482 1893337
73 PERRY*KATY TEENAGE DREAM 8386 1858744
22 LIL' WAYNE THA CARTER IV 24737 1668210
90 MINAJ*NICKI PINK FRIDAY 6281 1634037
164 * PINK FLOYD WALL 3695 1630079
100 * MCBRIDE*MARTINA WHITE CHRISTMAS 5402 1538109
105 RIHANNA LOUD 5290 1516794
41 ADELE 19 14021 1493255
79 * IL DIVO CHRISTMAS COLLECTION 7217 1475370
150 DRAKE THANK ME LATER 3956 1484388
33 * PINK FLOYD WISH YOU WERE HERE 15788 1349907
83 * MARS*BRUNO DOO - WOPS & HOOLIGANS 6887 1321052
82 * PRESLEY*ELVIS CANM-ELVIS PRESLEY-ITS CHRISTM 6914 1299208
55 * BROWN*ZAC BAND YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE 11020 1252275
80 * EVANCHO*JACKIE O HOLY NIGHT 7156 1050000+
162 TEMPTATIONS, THE VOL. 1-BEST OF TEMPTATIONS 60' 3723 1069851
186 * SUGARLAND INCREDIBLE MACHINE 3377 132 1454 106978
30 JAY Z & KANYE WEST WATCH THE THRONE 18042 1050749
144 * RASCAL FLATTS NOTHING LIKE THIS 4060 1001337

126 CLAPTON*ERIC BEST OF ERIC CLAPTON-MILLENNIU 4591 997733
106 * CHESNEY*KENNY HEMINGWAY'S WHISKEY 5278 984787
77 * GLEE CAST MUSIC: XMAS 7461 944572
176 * CELTIC WOMAN CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION 3477 919150
39 BEYONCE 4 14263 907286
155 THREE DOG NIGHT MILLENNIUM COLLECTION-20TH CEN 3884 878643
172 BLACK KEYS BROTHERS 3551 868063
152 * TAYLOR*JAMES CHRISTMAS ALBUM 3926 844926
26 * BAND PERRY*THE BAND PERRY 20004 843253
156 WHITE*BARRY BEST OF BARRY WHITE-MILLENNIUM 3855 830018
84 FLORENCE + THE MACHINE LUNGS 6847 806970
99 * SWIFT*TAYLOR THE HOLIDAY COLLECTION 5410 790675
17 * LADY ANTEBELLUM OWN THE NIGHT 33965 782336
58 MAROON 5 HANDS ALL OVER 10739 738534
149 BOYZ II MEN BEST OF BOYZ II MEN-MILLENNIUM 3973 668720
186 SKILLET AWAKE 3377 642433
195 VARIOUS NOW 38 3292 628349
8 COLDPLAY MYLO XYLOTO 70131 622123
161 WIZ KHALIFA ROLLING PAPERS 3747 609339
157 FOO FIGHTERS WASTING LIGHT 3830 608357
89 BAD MEETS EVIL HELL: THE SEQUEL 6531 604163
60 * EVANCHO*JACKIE DREAM WITH ME 9662 542949
52 * PAISLEY*BRAD THIS IS COUNTRY MUSIC 11666 535376
135 * RICHIE*LIONEL BEST OF/20TH CENTURY 4419 525693
109 * PRESLEY*ELVIS ELVIS CHRISTMAS 5069 524555
27 BENNETT*TONY DUETS II 18860 -22 24068 508208

[MountainMan]

"Marry The Night" also would fit the ending of this era.

[MountainMan]

Her next era is going to be the one that decides the rest of her career.

She seems to be slipping out of the public eye.

[Enigma.]

Everybody does after a certain period.

At some point everyone will face a situation when only your fans care. And then it's essential how many fans you have. Michael Jackson has a huge fanbase, also Madonna. Look at Madonna, nobody bought American Life. But she kept going, touring and have had a decent success since then.

Gaga has the biggest following in the pop world at the moment and if she can maintain it she'll be fine as long as she wants to do music. There will be flop eras but who cares.

[HolidayGuy]

j74, you're forgetting to put The Gift ahead of Jason Aldean's album on the best-sellers list. As for Evancho's O Holy Night, it has sold more than the three titles currently shown above it. Not sure if Dream With Me has sold more than Brad paisley's album, though.

[areyoureadytojump]

Billboard 200 in descending order by sales to date and the RIAA certification:

178 BEATLES BEATLES 1 3465 11927602 11xp
95 * PINK FLOYD DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 5971 9205389 15xp
185 SEGER*BOB GREATEST HITS 3380 9090045 8xp
137 * SWIFT*TAYLOR FEARLESS 4336 6397370 6xp
153 U2 ACHTUNG BABY 3910 5555924 8xp
75 * GROBAN*JOSH NOEL 7976 5292635 5xp
142 * CAREY*MARIAH MERRY CHRISTMAS 4068 5130798 5xp
159 * JACKSON*MICHAEL NUMBER ONES 3798 4643163 3xp
5 ADELE 21 104200 4420021 4xp
114 EMINEM RECOVERY 5024 4077938 3xp

51 * SWIFT*TAYLOR SPEAK NOW 11892 3736989 3xp
166 * LED ZEPPELIN LED ZEPPELIN 4 3640 3733312 23xp
96 * LADY ANTEBELLUM NEED YOU NOW 5954 3709104 3xp
197 * GUARALDI*VINCE TRIO CHARLIE BROWN CHRISTMAS 3260 3015498 3xp
115 BIEBER*JUSTIN MY WORLD 2.0 5013 2952753 2xp
182 WILLIAMS*HANK JR. VOL. 1-GREATEST HITS 3426 2905035 5xp
117 * MANNHEIM STEAMROLLER CHRISTMAS EXTRAORDINAIRE 4902 2785503 3xp
103 * BROWN*ZAC BAND FOUNDATION 5309 2770778 2xp
62 * BOCELLI*ANDREA MY CHRISTMAS 9436 2607780 2xp
121 LYNYRD SKYNYRD BEST OF LYNYRD SKYNYRD-MILLENN 4783 2602406 2xp
163 WINEHOUSE*AMY BACK TO BLACK 3699 2485509 2xp
184 NELSON*WILLIE SUPER HITS 3384 2223505 2xp
131 * TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA LOST CHRISTMAS EVE 4476 2121517 1xp
20 * ALDEAN*JASON MY KINDA PARTY 27193 2003257 2xp

36 * BOYLE*SUSAN THE GIFT 14539 1929455 3xp
56 MUMFORD & SONS SIGH NO MORE 10971 1908638 1xp
70 LADY GAGA BORN THIS WAY 8482 1893337 not certified
73 PERRY*KATY TEENAGE DREAM 8386 1858744 2xp
22 LIL' WAYNE THA CARTER IV 24737 1668210 2xp
90 MINAJ*NICKI PINK FRIDAY 6281 1634037 1xp
164 * PINK FLOYD WALL 3695 1630079 23xp
100 * MCBRIDE*MARTINA WHITE CHRISTMAS 5402 1538109 1xp
105 RIHANNA LOUD 5290 1516794 1xp
41 ADELE 19 14021 1493255 1xp
79 * IL DIVO CHRISTMAS COLLECTION 7217 1475370 1xp
150 DRAKE THANK ME LATER 3956 1484388 1xp
33 * PINK FLOYD WISH YOU WERE HERE 15788 1349907 6xp
83 * MARS*BRUNO DOO - WOPS & HOOLIGANS 6887 1321052 1xp
82 * PRESLEY*ELVIS CANM-ELVIS PRESLEY-ITS CHRISTM 6914 1299208 3xp
55 * BROWN*ZAC BAND YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE 11020 1252275 1xp
162 TEMPTATIONS, THE VOL. 1-BEST OF TEMPTATIONS 60' 3723 1069851 1xp
186 * SUGARLAND INCREDIBLE MACHINE 3377 132 1454 106978 1xp
30 JAY Z & KANYE WEST WATCH THE THRONE 18042 1050749 1xp
80 * EVANCHO*JACKIE O HOLY NIGHT 7156 1047770 1xp
144 * RASCAL FLATTS NOTHING LIKE THIS 4060 1001337 1xp

126 CLAPTON*ERIC BEST OF ERIC CLAPTON-MILLENNIU 4591 997733 not certified
106 * CHESNEY*KENNY HEMINGWAY'S WHISKEY 5278 984787 1xp
77 * GLEE CAST MUSIC: XMAS 7461 944572 1xp
176 * CELTIC WOMAN CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION 3477 919150 Gold
39 BEYONCE 4 14263 907286 1xp
155 THREE DOG NIGHT MILLENNIUM COLLECTION-20TH CEN 3884 878643 Gold
172 BLACK KEYS BROTHERS 3551 868063 Gold
152 * TAYLOR*JAMES CHRISTMAS ALBUM 3926 844926 Gold
26 * BAND PERRY*THE BAND PERRY 20004 843253 Gold
156 WHITE*BARRY BEST OF BARRY WHITE-MILLENNIUM 3855 830018 not certified
84 FLORENCE + THE MACHINE LUNGS 6847 806970 Gold
99 * SWIFT*TAYLOR THE HOLIDAY COLLECTION 5410 790675 not certified
17 * LADY ANTEBELLUM OWN THE NIGHT 33965 782336 1xp
58 MAROON 5 HANDS ALL OVER 10739 738534 Gold
149 BOYZ II MEN BEST OF BOYZ II MEN-MILLENNIUM 3973 668720 not certified
186 SKILLET AWAKE 3377 642433 Gold
195 VARIOUS NOW 38 3292 628349 not certified
8 COLDPLAY MYLO XYLOTO 70131 622123 not certified
161 WIZ KHALIFA ROLLING PAPERS 3747 609339 Gold
157 FOO FIGHTERS WASTING LIGHT 3830 608357 Gold
89 BAD MEETS EVIL HELL: THE SEQUEL 6531 604163 Gold
52 * PAISLEY*BRAD THIS IS COUNTRY MUSIC 11666 535376 Gold
60 * EVANCHO*JACKIE DREAM WITH ME 9662 532857 Gold
135 * RICHIE*LIONEL BEST OF/20TH CENTURY 4419 525693 not certified
109 * PRESLEY*ELVIS ELVIS CHRISTMAS 5069 524555 Gold
27 BENNETT*TONY DUETS II 18860 -22 24068 508208 Gold

I highlighted the under-certified and not certified albums.

[KeepDeanWeird]

Nov 19, 2011 4:58:02 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Everybody does after a certain period.

At some point everyone will face a situation when only your fans care. And then it's essential how many fans you have. Michael Jackson has a huge fanbase, also Madonna. Look at Madonna, nobody bought American Life. But she kept going, touring and have had a decent success since then.

Gaga has the biggest following in the pop world at the moment and if she can maintain it she'll be fine as long as she wants to do music. There will be flop eras but who cares.

I hardly think you can compare LG's current career to Madonna's at American Life, which came out 20 years after Everybody and 18 years after Holiday (or even post-Erotica). In retrospect, the onslaught for BTW with radio and the Amazon sales hurt more than anything. LG will be fine.

[Deleted]

Gaga has the #2 album of the year and has had multiple hits. Seems to be pretty good

Was the expectation that this album performed at the same level as 'The Fame'?

That was never likely to begin with

[Love Plastic Love]

I honestly didn't really expect her to sell more than 2-2.5 in the US and around 5-6 Worldwide. So, she has already met those expectations I had for the cd (2+ in the US is guaranteed, 6 looks guaranteed worldwide) and depending on MTN/other singles may go further. I am pleased. I do find it funny that other artists sell 5-6 worldwide and are considered massive icons, legends, sales success UNBELIEVABLE but Gaga does it and it is embarrassing for her Shows what standard she set for success.

[Deleted]

One blockbuster album is almost never followed up by another of the same magnitude.

So what is happening here is not a shock, it is expected

[ListenToItTwice]

Nov 19, 2011 9:24:56 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

j74, you're forgetting to put The Gift ahead of Jason Aldean's album on the best-sellers list. As for Evancho's O Holy Night, it has sold more than the three titles currently shown above it. Not sure if Dream With Me has sold more than Brad paisley's album, though.

thanks I always forget that little caveat. I'll edit right now

[deuce8pro]

Nov 19, 2011 9:24:56 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

As for Evancho's O Holy Night, it has sold more than the three titles currently shown above it. Not sure if Dream With Me has sold more than Brad paisley's album, though.

Dream wth me is 552,494.
O Holy Night should be over 1,050,000.

[ListenToItTwice]

^ Thanks! :)

[Agent Yoncé]

58 MAROON 5 HANDS ALL OVER 10739 738534 Gold

Wow! Despite hating 'MLS,' it really helped their sales.

[SPRΞΞ]

Nov 19, 2011 13:21:37 GMT -5 @2m said:

Gaga has the #2 album of the year and has had multiple hits. Seems to be pretty good

Was the expectation that this album performed at the same level as 'The Fame'?

no, the expectation was her calling it "the album of the decade." So that would mean The Fame x 10.

[Deleted]

Nov 19, 2011 14:09:20 GMT -5 Love Plastic Love said:

I honestly didn't really expect her to sell more than 2-2.5 in the US and around 5-6 Worldwide. So, she has already met those expectations I had for the cd (2+ in the US is guaranteed, 6 looks guaranteed worldwide) and depending on MTN/other singles may go further. I am pleased. I do find it funny that other artists sell 5-6 worldwide and are considered massive icons, legends, sales success UNBELIEVABLE but Gaga does it and it is embarrassing for her Shows what standard she set for success.

I think it's more to do with the rate at which the era seems to be losing grounds that people find the problem. I mean, in any case 2 million is great for album sales standards nowadays but I definitely think the fact that the era is still sort of new and already so low is why some are calling it out and it's not completely unjustified.

The followup to a huge breakthrough album is always tricky and it wss never going to be possible to top The Fame/TFM sales so anyone holding her to those standards were setting themselves up. I expected it to be a very frontloaded era from the getgo before the album even came out performing similarly to George Michael's "Listen Without Prejudice" which also followed a huge debut era and still sold well (10 million copies) but was deemed a commercial failure because despite opening big on the heels of his debut, it lost hype quickly as well.

It's a very identical case because just like with BTW, Michael's sophomore was also not as commercial as his debut and was when he started recording more serious music with deeper messages.

[Push The Button]

Nov 19, 2011 21:57:45 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

Nov 19, 2011 13:21:37 GMT -5 @2m said:

Gaga has the #2 album of the year and has had multiple hits. Seems to be pretty good

Was the expectation that this album performed at the same level as 'The Fame'?

no, the expectation was her calling it "the album of the decade." So that would mean The Fame x 10.

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

[Deleted]

Nov 19, 2011 22:42:20 GMT -5 Push The Button said:

Nov 19, 2011 21:57:45 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

no, the expectation was her calling it "the album of the decade." So that would mean The Fame x 10.

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

LOL - I'd buy that album based on that statement alone


Albums that did as well as 'The Fame' are almost never followed up with albums that are even bigger.

Marks set by 'The Fame' may never again be reached by Gaga.

Although it certainly can happen, it doesn't appear to be that way so far.

[lugus15]

The thing about LG is that with this album, she's carrying the success of it entirely on her shoulders. There is no ¨cheap¨, rent-a-rapper collaboration to keep things going.

In fact, since Just Dance (with Colby O'Donis...lmao) she has only done 1 more collab, but this time with a highly prestigious artist: Beyonce.

I think she will do fine, even tho this era has been plagued by mistake after mistake, my take is that even tho she might seem like batshit crazy, she is regarded by the public as an artist that has artistic integrity.

Also, she seems to me that she is one of those artists that needs to tour.

PS: Honestly she should have credited both TEOG and Hair as Lady Gaga feat. Clarence Clemmons.... but whatev.

[Deleted]

Nov 19, 2011 21:57:45 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

Nov 19, 2011 13:21:37 GMT -5 @2m said:

Gaga has the #2 album of the year and has had multiple hits. Seems to be pretty good

Was the expectation that this album performed at the same level as 'The Fame'?

no, the expectation was her calling it "the album of the decade." So that would mean The Fame x 10.

Consoloation prize: if not for Adele, this may have been album of the year

[lugus15]

On another subject, even tho is still early to call those numbers. I think Foster The People will go at least Platinum..... or maybe become the new Mumford next year.

LMFAO is selling comparatively well compared to their equals (Pitbull, Enrique, Jlo, etc.) who all seem to be unable to go beyond the 200-300K mark.

[Deleted]

People were expecting Gaga to do the kind of numbers Adele's being doing for the last 10 months.

Follow ups to huge eras are almost always frontloaded and fade away fast. It's happened many times before. (I wouldn't be surprised if 23 is extremely frontloaded as well when it comes out late next year.)

[grandelf]

Nov 19, 2011 22:48:53 GMT -5 @2m said:

Albums that did as well as 'The Fame' are almost never followed up with albums that are even bigger.

It's easy to say that in retrospect but at the time many thought Gaga's "peak" was still to come. Maybe nobody should have expected those kinda sales but that doesn't mean it couldn't have stayed in the top 20/40 for a longer time, not to mention it only yielded one huge hit while other female acts eclipsed her in that aspect. So it's not hard to see why many are saying BTW is underperforming, we heard it way too many times that she's the most important female artist of the last 20 years, will have a career as long as Madonna, Mariah etc...

[Enigma.]

Personally, I prefer BTW to The Fame era quality-wise.

Sales are a different story.