Billboard Hot 100: 12/3/11

[badrobot]

TTT is kinda boring as a song.

[HolidayGuy]

^Has that stopped labels from releasing boring songs? before

[cesarams]

I wanted that the others singles could be WHYB, Farewell & one another . Maybe TTT

[slw84]

Nov 20, 2011 16:55:41 GMT -5 cesarams said:

I wanted that the others singles could be WHYB, Farewell & one another . Maybe TTT

I love how all these posts are about Riri and no one is making an issue of it.

But, to add fuel...does anyone expect her to go out 5/6 singles deep. She might just have another November album release next year.

I hope the 3rd single comes out in February and 4th June...not sure we will get another single unless they split singles (urban/pop).

[renfield75]

Nov 19, 2011 19:38:50 GMT -5 @gagalicious said:

Nov 19, 2011 19:07:37 GMT -5 moore746 said:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hot_100_number-one_singles_of_2011_%28U.S.%29

Another way of looking at it is women have controlled 2/3 of the weeks at #1. That HAS to be some sort of record. AND...that number will only increase as I can't imagine what else could challenge WFL for the remainder of the year.

2011 has had 32 weeks so far
I've counted 35 in 2001
Independent Women, All For You, Lady Marmalade, Bootylicious, Fallen, I'm Real, Family Affair

I'm guessing that's the record.

And an honorable mention to 1990, when 31 of the 52 weeks were dominated by female vocalists (thanks to Mariah Carey's debut, Sinead O'Connor, Wilson Phillips and several others). There would almost certainly have been a 32nd week if Billboard hadn't frozen the final chart of the year at that time; Madonna's "Justify My Love" would have knocked Stevie B's "Because I Love You" off the top during the last week of December, instead of holding an extra week at number two.

[NeRD]

Nov 20, 2011 17:09:33 GMT -5 slw84 said:

Nov 20, 2011 16:55:41 GMT -5 cesarams said:

I wanted that the others singles could be WHYB, Farewell & one another . Maybe TTT

I love how all these posts are about Riri and no one is making an issue of it.

But, to add fuel...does anyone expect her to go out 5/6 singles deep. She might just have another November album release next year.


I hope the 3rd single comes out in February and 4th June...not sure we will get another single unless they split singles (urban/pop).

I dont see YDO getting big until January, so there shouldnt be a reason for the third single until at least March. Thats almost a month and a half difference from when S&M was released. This album is packed with hits, so I see no reason why they wont release a ton of singles.

Where Have You Been
Talk That Talk
Roc Me Out

...are all single worthy and could be huge. People seem to be really into Drunk on Love too even though I think its the weakest on the album.

[1intelligentdude]

Nov 20, 2011 20:03:12 GMT -5 NeRD said:

Nov 20, 2011 17:09:33 GMT -5 slw84 said:

I love how all these posts are about Riri and no one is making an issue of it.

But, to add fuel...does anyone expect her to go out 5/6 singles deep. She might just have another November album release next year.


I hope the 3rd single comes out in February and 4th June...not sure we will get another single unless they split singles (urban/pop).

I dont see YDO getting big until January, so there shouldnt be a reason for the third single until at least March. Thats almost a month and a half difference from when S&M was released. This album is packed with hits, so I see no reason why they wont release a ton of singles.

Where Have You Been
Talk That Talk
Roc Me Out

...are all single worthy and could be huge. People seem to be really into Drunk on Love too even though I think its the weakest on the album.

AGREE, the 3 you mentioned are definitely the three obvious singles, I only say DOL should be released as like a final single

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Top 20

1. RIHANNA - We Found Love f/Calvin Harris: 130.283 (+ 2.003) ▲
2. ADELE - Someone Like You: 129.836 (- 1.572) ▼
3. MAROON 5 F/CHRISTINA AGUILERA - Moves Like Jagger: 126.846 (- 1.741) ▼
4. GYM CLASS HEROES - Stereo Hearts f/Adam Levine: 122.646 (+ 0.701)
5. DAVID GUETTA - Without You f/Usher: 112.665 (+ 1.889)
6. LMFAO - Sexy And I Know It: 101.454 (+ 0.527)
7. COBRA STARSHIP - You Make Me Feel... f/Sabi: 87.357 (- 0.597)
8. DRAKE - Headlines: 85.244 (+ 0.645)
9. JAY Z & KANYE WEST - N***** In Paris: 74.497 (+ 0.240)
10. FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Pumped Up Kicks: 69.722 (- 1.403)
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FILA
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11. T-PAIN - 5 O'clock f/Wiz Khalifa: 67.071 (+ 1.711) ▲
12. DEV - In The Dark: 64.556 (- 1.272) ▼
13. J. COLE - Workout: 64.477 (+ 0.847)
14. FLO RIDA - Good Feeling: 62.121 (+ 1.432)
15. BRUNO MARS - It Will Rain: 62.083 (+ 1.538)
16. KELLY CLARKSON - Mr. Know It All: 60.737 (+ 0.322)
17. KATY PERRY - The One That Got Away: 59.834 (+ 1.254)
18. LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem: 57.604 (- 0.430)
19. LIL WAYNE - She Will f/Drake: 56.882 (- 0.151)
20. PITBULL - Give Me Everything f/Ne-Yo: 53.586 (- 0.735)
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OUTRAS
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LADY ANTEBELLUM - Just A Kiss: 53.087 (+ 0.400)
MIRANDA LAMBERT - Baggage Claim: 46.145 (+ 0.643)
NICKI MINAJ - Fly f/Rihanna: 45.150 (- 0.235)
JASON DERULO - It Girl: 43.820 (+ 0.257)
BEYONCE - Party f/Kanye & Andre: 42.836 (+ 0.021)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Sparks Fly: 42.481 (- 1.419)
DRAKE - Make Me Proud f/Nicki Minaj: 26.226 (+ 0.492)
SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE: Love You Like A Love Song: 22.401 (+0.377)
RIHANNA - You Da One: 21.668 (- 7.293)
COLDPLAY - Paradise: 19.308 (+ 0.381)
LADY GAGA - Marry The Night: 16.819 (+ 1.026)
JESSIE J - Domino: 15.821 (+ 0.402)
BEYONCE - Countdown: 15.338 (- 0.713)
MARIAH CAREY - All I Want For Christmas Is...: 14.524 (+ 2.185)
BREATHE CAROLINA - Blackout: 11.161 (+ 0.484)
ADELE - Set Fire To The Rain: 6.639 (+ 0.351)
EVANESCENCE - What You Want: 6.239 (- 0.015)
AVRIL LAVIGNE - Wish You Were Here: 6.105 (- 0.044)

[#LisaRinna]

MARIAH CAREY - All I Want For Christmas Is...: 14.524 (+ 2.185)

Biggest gain! It's started. :'(

[HolidayGuy]

Would be nice if they also posted audience impressions for some of the other top holiday tracks, too- hard as it may be to believe, AIWFCIY isn't the only one that gets loads of play. It's currently No. 8 on the AC Golds chart.

[#LisaRinna]

no1curr about the others

[jgizzle89]

uhhh... what?

RIHANNA - You Da One: 21.668 (- 7.293)

[jgizzle89]

it was at 38 two days ago.

[Agent Yoncé]

Nov 21, 2011 11:35:36 GMT -5 jgizzle89 said:

it was at 38 two days ago.

During the 1st week it was out, it received massive airplay. On the 8th day, everyone experiences a huge drop. This is day 9 or 10 & she's still losing AI. This doesn't look good.

[nighttime]

Rihanna's latest had a Clear Channel promotion last weekend that included playing the song every hour across over a hundred stations. The next weekend the deal was non-existent, meaning significant airplay losses in the rolling chart. The approximate loss has been expected and discussed at great length since Tuesday morning of last week.

[badrobot]

This should help explain. The number on the left is the daily total airplay. As you can see the first 3 days were huge, then every day since has been much smaller, but generally showing an overall slow growth pattern. Tomorrow should reverse things as it will compete against its own first "normal" day and I bet we'll see an overall +1.5 or +2.

11 Nov: 12.479
12 Nov: 12.695 (7-day-total: 25.174)
13 Nov: 10.793 (7-day-total: 35.967)
14 Nov: 2.045 (7-day-total: 38.012)
15 Nov: 2.781 (7-day-total: 40.793)
16 Nov: 3.236 (7-day-total: 44.029)
17 Nov: 3.150 (7-day-total: 47.179)
18 Nov: 3.310 (7-day-total: 38.010)
19 Nov: 3.646 (7-day-total: 28.961)
20 Nov: 3.500 (7-day-total: 21.668)

[worldwide]

Nov 21, 2011 9:39:45 GMT -5 @gagalicious said:

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MARIAH CAREY - All I Want For Christmas Is...: 14.524 (+ 2.185)

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( snatachin them wigs

I hope her next single gets updates like this.

[badrobot]

I did all that math and no1curr :(

[California Cheers]

Nov 21, 2011 14:35:58 GMT -5 badrobot said:

I did all that math and no1curr :(

i care ;)

[badrobot]

Haha thanks. :) I won't be so desperate for validation in the future!

[ListenToItTwice]

yeah really, thanks for illustrating that for us :)

[Deleted]

Nov 21, 2011 14:35:58 GMT -5 badrobot said:

I did all that math and no1curr :(

[NeRD]

TOP 10
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1. RIHANNA - We Found Love f/Calvin Harris: 132.125 (+ 1.842)
2. ADELE - Someone Like You: 127.144 (- 2.692)
3. MAROON 5 F/CHRISTINA AGUILERA - Moves Like Jagger: 124.058 (- 2.788)
4. GYM CLASS HEROES - Stereo Hearts f/Adam Levine: 122.207 (- 0.439)
5. DAVID GUETTA - Without You f/Usher: 114.199 (+ 1.534)
6. LMFAO - Sexy And I Know It: 103.201 (+ 1.747)
7. COBRA STARSHIP - You Make Me Feel... f/Sabi: 86.859 (- 0.498)
8. DRAKE - Headlines: 84.823 (- 0.421)
9. JAY Z & KANYE WEST - N***** In Paris: 74.606 (+ 0.109)
10. T-PAIN - 5 O'clock f/Wiz Khalifa: 68.579 (+ 1.508) £
.
FILA
.
11. FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Pumped Up Kicks: 68.505 (- 1.217) ¥
12. J. COLE - Workout: 65.132 (+ 0.655) £
13. FLO RIDA - Good Feeling: 63.745 (+ 1.624) £
14. BRUNO MARS - It Will Rain: 63.539 (+ 1.456) £
15. DEV - In The Dark: 63.212 (- 1.344) ¥
16. KATY PERRY - The One That Got Away: 61.423 (+ 1.589) £
17. KELLY CLARKSON - Mr. Know It All: 61.164 (+ 0.427) ¥
18. LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem: 56.535 (- 1.069)
19. LIL WAYNE - She Will f/Drake: 56.063 (- 0.819)
20. PITBULL - Give Me Everything f/Ne-Yo: 52.465 (- 1.121)
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OUTRAS
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LADY ANTEBELLUM - Just A Kiss: 52.166 (- 0.921)
MIRANDA LAMBERT - Baggage Claim: 46.196 (+ 0.051)
JASON DERULO - It Girl: 43.887 (+ 0.067)
BEYONCE - Party f/Kanye & Andre: 42.812 (- 0.024)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Sparks Fly: 40.743 (- 1.738)
DRAKE - Make Me Proud f/Nicki Minaj: 27.097 (+ 0.871)
RIHANNA - You Da One: 23.165 (+ 1.497)
SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE: Love You Like A Love Song: 22.588 (+ 0.187)
COLDPLAY - Paradise: 19.591 (+ 0.283)
LADY GAGA - Marry The Night: 17.517 (+ 0.698)
MARIAH CAREY - All I Want For Christmas Is...: 17.111 (+ 2.587)
JESSIE J - Domino: 16.317 (+ 0.496)
BEYONCE - Countdown: 15.145 (- 0.193)
BREATHE CAROLINA - Blackout: 11.487 (+ 0.326)
ADELE - Set Fire To The Rain: 7.156 (+ 0.517)
EVANESCENCE - What You Want: 6.337 (+ 0.098)
AVRIL LAVIGNE - Wish You Were Here: 6.250 (+ 0.145)

[HolidayGuy]

It's like clockwork with holiday songs- last year on the comparable day (Tuesday, Nov. 23), this was AIWFCIY's showing: 18.507m (+ 3.044).

[leoapp]

Ugh, All I Want slaying again! Hope Billboard changes its rule and allow it to re-chart on Hot 100 (wishful thinking)

[HolidayGuy]

Some may ask, why does the albums chart include older stuff and not the singles chart? For whatever reason, Billboard prefers to keep the tracks chart fresh and current (at least that's what was reiterated to me)- you know, tracks that labels are actively promoting at the present time and/or newly selling. It makes sense in a way, given that holiday tracks being an annual recurrence on the charts and all. I know other countries don't have such a rule, but they also have official charts that are totally sales-based, too.

[musik...]

Part of me thinks they should include it because the deceptive #83 peak on the Hot 100 doesn't reflect how huge the song has been (I would've died if the Bieber version outpeaked the original). Then again, like HG said, it seems Billboard wants the Hot 100 to be recognized as a very current chart on song popularity as opposed to just a singles chart. Plus, holiday songs that are super popular will never rival the most popular "song of the moment." Their forte is in long-term recurrent popularity which the H100 isn't super great at gauging.

[badrobot]

I've been saying this forever:

They need a "current singles" chart and an "all songs" chart, like they used to have with the BB200 and the Comprehensive Albums list.

All songs would include everything based on the standard point system -- no songs held back as recurrent, no songs denied entry because they are too old.

And with that I would also say the current singles chart should take the current H100 formula and add a few more rules to stop the debuts of non-radio songs, so that the onslaught of album cuts and Glee songs stops. Songs would have a minimum requirement of airplay (say, 5m audience) to chart.

[moore746]

Nov 22, 2011 9:11:14 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

Some may ask, why does the albums chart include older stuff and not the singles chart? For whatever reason, Billboard prefers to keep the tracks chart fresh and current (at least that's what was reiterated to me)- you know, tracks that labels are actively promoting at the present time and/or newly selling. It makes sense in a way, given that holiday tracks being an annual recurrence on the charts and all. I know other countries don't have such a rule, but they also have official charts that are totally sales-based, too.

But the albums chart doesn't include all older albums, right? I seem to remember none of Michael Jackson's albums re-charting after his death.

[musik...]

^ MJ died in June 2009 and in December 2009, Billboard lifted the restrictions that made old albums that had fallen below 100 ineligible to reenter the BB200 (in part because this rule essentially caused the BB200 to ignore the million+ in posthumous MJ album sales). So while his albums were not eligible at the time of his death to reenter, they are now - and just a few weeks ago Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon charted in the top 20).