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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Nov 29, 2011 9:47:35 GMT -5
Katy Slaying.
Everything is Slowing Down Now.
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Post by badrobot on Nov 29, 2011 9:56:56 GMT -5
I'm a bit bummed that Gaga's new one isn't climbing faster. It's doing okay, and maybe this month is not a great time for new songs, but... still.
Selena Gomez's LYLALS is having a remarkably long chart life -- aren't they already pushing another single?
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Post by NeRD on Nov 29, 2011 11:15:38 GMT -5
Katy Top 10 tomorrow!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 29, 2011 11:31:07 GMT -5
"Marry the Night's" main format right now is Mainstream Top 40, where it's No. 18- 21.802m of its total audience comes from this format. At Hot AC, it's currently No. 49 on Mediabase's chart, with 0.387m audience. It has yet to break into Mediabase's Rhythmic top 50. AC- the most holiday-heavy of formats- would give it limited play, anyhow.
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Post by kylecburke on Nov 29, 2011 12:01:56 GMT -5
Hopefully Kelly can stable soon and keep the slow decline in the top 20
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Post by 1intelligentdude on Nov 29, 2011 12:33:27 GMT -5
Katy Slaying. Everything is Slowing Down Now. Katy is doing really well AirPlay wise. It's sad that the inevitably a lack of high sales is what's going to hold her back from reaching the top. However, this is an extremely good showing for a 6th single. It makes me wonder how well 'Cheers" would have went if IDJ didn't kill it for WFL.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 29, 2011 12:46:09 GMT -5
Katy Slaying. Everything is Slowing Down Now. Katy is doing really well AirPlay wise. It's sad that the inevitably a lack of high sales is what's going to hold her back from reaching the top. However, this is an extremely good showing for a 6th single. It makes me wonder how well 'Cheers" would have went if IDJ didn't kill it for WFL. I think people forget that Cheers stalled in airplay just inside the Top 10 on Pop and Rhythmic. Its sales remained fairly steady, but it actually began to slow dramatically well before WFL was even announced.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Nov 29, 2011 12:59:18 GMT -5
Cheers just needed a performance somewhere and in reality the record company probably should've just done a rih-release. There was only a couple of songs compelling enough to warrant a release.
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Post by 1intelligentdude on Nov 29, 2011 13:44:42 GMT -5
What are the chances of another song taking WFL from the top spot this year?
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Post by NeRD on Nov 29, 2011 13:48:57 GMT -5
As long as IWR keeps SAIKI from #1, chances are slim to none. Airplay for all songs are slowing down because of the holidays, and IWR would have to outsell WFL by some 70k copies to have a shot. As long as WFL remains fairly consistent with its sales, it should easily remain on top.
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Post by neverduplicated on Nov 29, 2011 13:59:36 GMT -5
I just can't believe Katy's 6th single is outpacing everyone else's 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. singles. It will probably be the greatest airplay gainer this week as it's been climbing faster than all other current songs. And it's still number 5 on Itunes over a week after the AMA performance. I wonder if TD might possibly end up being the most successful Hot 100 singles era of any album ever, sales and airplay wise. Especially if they push a 7th single and that smashes too.
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Post by cesarams on Nov 29, 2011 14:25:07 GMT -5
I think we found love could stay at the top till next year. And Katy would've release Peacock as 7th single, but I doubt it.
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Post by tshawn74 on Nov 29, 2011 14:50:15 GMT -5
I just can't believe Katy's 6th single is outpacing everyone else's 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. singles. It will probably be the greatest airplay gainer this week as it's been climbing faster than all other current songs. And it's still number 5 on Itunes over a week after the AMA performance. I wonder if TD might possibly end up being the most successful Hot 100 singles era of any album ever, sales and airplay wise. Especially if they push a 7th single and that smashes too.How quickly we forget Michael Jackson's Thriller, Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation:1814 and Bruce Sprinsteen's Born In The U.S.A.
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Post by nighttime on Nov 29, 2011 14:50:32 GMT -5
As long as IWR keeps SAIKI from #1, chances are slim to none. Airplay for all songs are slowing down because of the holidays, and IWR would have to outsell WFL by some 70k copies to have a shot. As long as WFL remains fairly consistent with its sales, it should easily remain on top. At this point the most obvious week that someone might overthrow it is Christmas week when sales are elevated and gaped larger.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 15:02:18 GMT -5
Christmas #1 is usually a relatively new song and I think WFL won't take it, for that reason. It will have been out for 3 months by then. It's not going to be #1 on HDS for 10 weeks in a row Only BEP and Flo have done that.. There's the off chance YDO could take it thought, but idk. Other contenders I've thought about: Adele: If she does some sort of promo (ie, releasing the music vid, live performance) in the next couple weeks, SFTTR will be a very strong contender the Christmas #1, no doubt. But with her recovering from vocal surgery, I don't see it happening But radio will prob go nuts for this after the holiday freeze and spur digital sales for another #1.. Katy vs Bruno, again: Both are gaining significant airplay and sales. I think Katy will pull a Clumsy though. Fun single after a bunch of smashes and peaks in the Top 5 during the Holidays. But her sales might pick up of nowhere (Lil Kim remix maybe?), so who knows. And for Bruno, he is currently #1 on iTunes and could easily build a nice lead in the next few weeks. Gaga: If MTN video is epic, might do the trick. But seeing how Gaga has done this era, I'm very doubtful about this going anywhere near #1. Flo Rida, again: Good Feeling has steadily been climbing, and with almost all Xmas #1's being party songs (Fergalicious, Low, Just Dance, Tik Tok; Grenade being the oddball), it has an advantage. LMFAO: this.. I'm not so sure on. It has the party song advantage and, like Flo Rida, they scream major gift card purchase. But like WFL, this song has been out for a while. And that's about it.. I'm going to make a bold prediction and say Flo will take the Xmas #1, again
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Post by elementd5 on Nov 29, 2011 15:09:27 GMT -5
I just can't believe Katy's 6th single is outpacing everyone else's 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. singles. It will probably be the greatest airplay gainer this week as it's been climbing faster than all other current songs. And it's still number 5 on Itunes over a week after the AMA performance. I wonder if TD might possibly end up being the most successful Hot 100 singles era of any album ever, sales and airplay wise. Especially if they push a 7th single and that smashes too.How quickly we forget Michael Jackson's Thriller, Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation:1814 and Bruce Sprinsteen's Born In The U.S.A. I'm sure no one has forgetten, but based solely on the numbers, the singles from Teenage Dream have arguably already outperformed the singles from those albums. Varying circumstances (making singles unavailable for purchase) and different chart methodologies have led to this circumstance. Of course, legacy and impact is arguably a different situation.
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 29, 2011 15:51:52 GMT -5
I'm a bit bummed that Gaga's new one isn't climbing faster. It's doing okay, and maybe this month is not a great time for new songs, but... still. Selena Gomez's LYLALS is having a remarkably long chart life -- aren't they already pushing another single? hit the lights music video was released but that was likley so the kids can see the album again and ask for the cd for xmas. its not common for a disney artist's new video to come out weeks before the previous single peaks. HTL wont get picked up till LYLALS is done
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Post by NeRD on Nov 29, 2011 16:26:59 GMT -5
Ironically, Grenade was released the exact same week as We Found Love last year, and ended up being the Christmas #1....
Only time will tell I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 16:44:57 GMT -5
Ironically, Grenade was released the exact same week as We Found Love last year, and ended up being the Christmas #1.... Only time will tell I guess. I should've been more clear- Rih's already at her peaking point with a month to go; she's already been at #1 for 4 (going on 5) weeks. At this point last year, Grenade was just hitting the top 10 and hadn't taken off yet. Low, Tik Tok, Just Dance and Grenade all first hit #1 in mid-late Decemeber. WFL's been there since late October.
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Post by elementd5 on Nov 29, 2011 16:46:38 GMT -5
Christmas #1 is usually a relatively new song and I think WFL won't take it, for that reason. It will have been out for 3 months by then. It's not going to be #1 on HDS for 10 weeks in a row Only BEP and Flo have done that.. There's the off chance YDO could take it thought, but idk. Other contenders I've thought about: Adele: If she does some sort of promo (ie, releasing the music vid, live performance) in the next couple weeks, SFTTR will be a very strong contender the Christmas #1, no doubt. But with her recovering from vocal surgery, I don't see it happening But radio will prob go nuts for this after the holiday freeze and spur digital sales for another #1.. Katy vs Bruno, again: Both are gaining significant airplay and sales. I think Katy will pull a Clumsy though. Fun single after a bunch of smashes and peaks in the Top 5 during the Holidays. But her sales might pick up of nowhere (Lil Kim remix maybe?), so who knows. And for Bruno, he is currently #1 on iTunes and could easily build a nice lead in the next few weeks. Gaga: If MTN video is epic, might do the trick. But seeing how Gaga has done this era, I'm very doubtful about this going anywhere near #1. Flo Rida, again: Good Feeling has steadily been climbing, and with almost all Xmas #1's being party songs (Fergalicious, Low, Just Dance, Tik Tok; Grenade being the oddball), it has an advantage. LMFAO: this.. I'm not so sure on. It has the party song advantage and, like Flo Rida, they scream major gift card purchase. But like WFL, this song has been out for a while. And that's about it.. I'm going to make a bold prediction and say Flo will take the Xmas #1, again Funny how the advent of digital singles has changed "The Holiday #1" because prior to 2008, the Holiday #1 was almost always a ballad, for at least the past two decades, if not longer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 16:49:31 GMT -5
^You mean before 2000, because Laffy Taffy, Hey Ya, Lose Yourself, How You Remind Me, Independent Women and Smooth aren't ballads...
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Post by elementd5 on Nov 29, 2011 16:54:36 GMT -5
^You mean before 2000, because Laffy Taffy, Hey Ya, Lose Yourself, How You Remind Me, Independent Women and Smooth aren't ballads... Mariah's Don't Forget About Us (not Laffy Taffy) was that years' Holiday #1 and aside from Hey Ya and IW, I wouldn't exactly consider those others party starters either, lol.
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Post by d.t.m on Nov 29, 2011 16:58:29 GMT -5
I think the Christmas #1 will go to novelty act LMFAO. If Flo-Rida was just a couple of notches higher I would put money on him doing it again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 17:00:34 GMT -5
Well they're not ballads either If you want to get technical, then yes, DFAU was #1 over Christmas, but the big digital boost comes the week after Xmas, which is arugably the one that matters more (even though they're more New Years #1's)... nevertheless Laffy Taffy took the top spot in that post Xmas gift card digital boost week back in 05.
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Post by elementd5 on Nov 29, 2011 17:13:17 GMT -5
Well they're not ballads either If you want to get technical, then yes, DFAU was #1 over Christmas, but the big digital boost comes the week after Xmas, which is arugably the one that matters more (even though they're more New Years #1's)... nevertheless Laffy Taffy took the top spot in that post Xmas gift card digital boost week back in 05. True (even though DFAU) was #1 on New Years, too, LT did get the substantial boost the following week. I just find it interesting that prior to 08, every Holiday #1 (except 04-05 with Drop It like It's Hot & Let Me Love You) for the past two decades were also holdovers from the previous year. It really is a new phenomenon, on the Hot 100 at least (it'd be interesting to see the corresponding sales charts.)
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Post by NeRD on Nov 29, 2011 17:17:52 GMT -5
So do people consider the Christmas #1 to be the song that is #1 over Christmas, or the week after?
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Post by neverduplicated on Nov 29, 2011 17:18:13 GMT -5
I just can't believe Katy's 6th single is outpacing everyone else's 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. singles. It will probably be the greatest airplay gainer this week as it's been climbing faster than all other current songs. And it's still number 5 on Itunes over a week after the AMA performance. I wonder if TD might possibly end up being the most successful Hot 100 singles era of any album ever, sales and airplay wise. Especially if they push a 7th single and that smashes too. How quickly we forget Michael Jackson's Thriller, Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation:1814 and Bruce Sprinsteen's Born In The U.S.A. No, I didn't forget. I'm just thinking about the numbers - Hot 100 success, not cultural relevance or anything like that. The singles from TD easily outpeaked the singles on Thriller and Born in the USA. RN1814 did have 7 top 5's, but the 4 number 1's "only" spent a total of 9 weeks at number 1. The first five singles from Teenage Dream have garnered 19 weeks at number 1, they all hit number 1 in sales and airplay, and they've mostly had decent longevity, especially Firework. TOTGA is off to an extremely strong start, and should it hit top 5 and then the album gets another top 10 single, I think it could possibly end up being the most successful Hot 100 era. Granted I'm not sure that's something Billboard could measure given different times and different numbers of singles, but still an interesting thought to contemplate.
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Post by elementd5 on Nov 29, 2011 17:25:03 GMT -5
So do people consider the Christmas #1 to be the song that is #1 over Christmas, or the week after? I think it really depends...In the U.S. digital era it seems to be the week after (in terms of iTunes gift cards) but prior to, it seemed to necessitate actually falling on the day or week, like the UK "Christmas #1" is always a big deal and that falls on the actual day. I also recall (or, I should say, I've read about it enough to recall, lol) the Mariah camp celebrating the Christmas #1 of "Hero" since it ascended to #1 on the chart that was published on the 25th (even though it stayed there for 3 more weeks).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 17:36:18 GMT -5
Yes, back in the 90's there was a physical single sales spike in the same week as the albums spike. So it made sense that the Xmas #1 was during the actual week, and it was almost always an R&B ballad. But in the digital era, it's the week after the album spike instead.
And twice the best selling digital song during that week (Just Dance and Fergalicious) didn't top the Hot 100 that week. (JD went #1 the week after). Ironically, both these songs blocked Beyonce.
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Post by badrobot on Nov 29, 2011 20:51:00 GMT -5
This week will be weird for what the "Christmas week" is. A lot of the big sales come on Christmas day itself, which is the last day of a tracking week. The weeks of Dec 19-25 and Dec 26-Jan 1 may be very close in terms of sales and the spike may be over 2 weeks rather than 1.
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