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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 23, 2011 2:41:33 GMT -5
Maybe then she can finally afford to buy brain cells. That's a nail that really didn't need to be hammered. But thanks for making an attempt anyways.
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Post by stcecilia on Dec 23, 2011 14:27:42 GMT -5
Downloaded this song yesterday and I can't stop playing it. Her best to date.. If radio doesn't spin this, it's beyond obvious they are trying to sabatoge her career. Taste of Country gave it a lousy review, but he has very strange taste most of the time anyway.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 23, 2011 17:06:21 GMT -5
Maybe then she can finally afford to buy brain cells. That's a nail that really didn't need to be hammered. But thanks for making an attempt anyways. Eh, you're right, I kinda go that route too often. She's overall a nice person, but I think she overplays the "dumb blonde" a little too much. She has plenty of redeeming qualities, but when I hear her in interviews giggling and using "like" every other word, it's kinda easy to forget that she's got plenty of redeeming qualities. And one of those redeeming qualities? She's a very solid singer. The three singles off Small Town Girl were all fine, but her self-titled was VERY bland besides "Didn't You Know How Much I Loved You", and even that one is an unspectacular lyric with a great melody and vocal performance. "Tough" and this song show she's growing artistically, which is a big plus for her. If she can stick more to her "good Southern girl" qualities a little more and play the dumb blonde card a little less, I would really appreciate that.
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Post by austin on Dec 24, 2011 10:14:31 GMT -5
I don't think she's ever going to have a big radio hit, and if she does I don't think this will be it. Her voice sounds great, though, and I normally dislike her voice, so it's a compliment. The song itself is a major step up from "Tough" and actually is probably her most tolerable single for me aside from "Best Days of Your Life," which is an awesome song. It just seems a little slow for radio and I think she needs an uptempo song to have any chance of going anywhere but Top 20.
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Post by themayor on Dec 26, 2011 8:58:35 GMT -5
Found a copy of the song and have been airing it for 2 weeks
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Dec 28, 2011 12:27:26 GMT -5
I've been interested to see how Kellie will do now that she is finally living up to her promise to release a more identifiably country album, both in terms of the material she has found/co-written and in terms of the rebranding process she has undertaken on the marketing side.
Kellie's debut album had established her as flirty, sassy, good-natured but vulnerable young country-pop singer whose personality infused her delivery and could make her stand out. But her public persona at the time wasn't necessarily conducive to being taken seriously, and I think that set up the challenges she has faced since. Her sophomore album, although it technically yielded her biggest radio hit, veered off into an even more poppy direction and in my view ultimately hurt Kellie's cause because it made her disposable to radio. The sophomore album's singles didn't channel the personality of the debut (partially because of the songs, partially because of Kellie's phrasing), the top-10 hit off the album was a horrible mismatch for her voice because it was a straight-up pop song that stole the hook from Wham!'s "Last Christmas," and the album overall didn't make the case for Kellie bringing something that other females on the format didn't. Now, Kellie's music is in a space already occupied by Sunny Sweeney and Ashton Shepherd (who have, to this point, enjoyed more critical acclaim), and she faces the uphill battle of convincing radio to buy her as an edgier, more grown-up woman intent on waving the flag for country music that actually sounds country.
I won't be surprised if country radio is a laggard when it comes to the singles from this album. But I do think that Kellie will enjoy the support of some Music Row tastemakers, not only because of the direction of her music but because the notion of an American Idol (with all the stereotypes about pop leanings and molding it carries) doubling down and making a strong commitment to an older country sound in a time when several of her contemporaries are flat out marketing pop music to country makes for good copy. Ultimately, that may pay dividends at radio. As for the actual music, I have mixed feelings about what we've been presented so far -- I think Kellie has clearly found her comfort zone musically and her interpretive performances reflect that, but the four songs that she has put out there aren't all quite up to snuff.
"Tough" felt like parts of several different songs stitched awkwardly together, and suffered from lyrical incoherence. The lack of concrete details to anchor the autobiographical aspect makes the story seem generic. I also think that the framing of this attempt at autobiography as a sassy kiss-off song doesn't work. I wound up asking myself why she was even bothering to justify herself to a person with visions of a Southern belles dancing in his head. And the line about Jesus loving her despite her rough edges really bugs me -- my impression is that Jesus is supposed to hold the rough and downtrodden especially close to His heart, and I don't know that He ever weighed in in favor of the princessy Southern belle. Kellie does, to her credit, sing the song with conviction.
"Stop Cheatin On Me" has a strong melody but I think it is ultimately sunk by the datedness of its perspective. I keep thinking of Brandi Carlile's "Same Old You" (via Miranda Lambert) -- that song is also a traditional country song, but it contains a clever meta-critique of the stereotypically traditional "stick with your man even when he's boozing and cheating" approach in the line "'cause until I get to leaving, it's just the same old me, too." "Stop Cheatin On Me" is frustrating because Kellie sings it with the appropriate pain in her voice, but ultimately, her threat leaves me cold.
"Unlock That Honky Tonk" also represents Kellie finding a melody and lyrics more suited to her natural phrasing tendencies. But the lyrics spend too much time asserting a party mood, mixing it up with an aggressive "yee haw, country!" declaration, and not enough time building a character or scene the audience would like to join in partying. The live performance features Kellie delivering the song with a commitment I hadn't seen from her prior to this album, so that's progress.
"100 Proof" is easily the most successful song out of these four. I really like the combination of weighty sadness (for the other couple) and blissed out love in Kellie's delivery, and it makes lyrics that would otherwise seem self-congratulatory a little more tolerable. The song, independent of Kellie's performance, is a draft or two short of being a great one. It is built on this parallel between drunkenness and love, with one couple fighting drunk and the other intoxicated by love, but a more developed (and less judgmental) take would do more to explore the dangerous common ground between the two. As it is, the lyrics just go from one couple to the other in a flat-out, unexplained contrast. The melody and, as I said, Kellie's performance, does something to fill in the blanks (though she does oversing the bridge). But I need more from the lyrics.
I believe Kellie's move to make a more country-sounding album is rooted in sincerity, and it shows in the much-improved fit between sound and phrasing on the new songs she has released so far. But I also don't think that she was very likely to succeed commercially if she had continued in the pop/country direction of her sophomore album. So I think Kellie is a little more savvy than perhaps she is given credit for. The commercial success of her upcoming album remains an open question, but I think Kellie has given herself more of a fighting chance to be taken seriously as a long-term artist by making the move that she did.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 7, 2012 17:37:51 GMT -5
Any word yet on when this is going to be released to digital retailers? I want to download this song so bad. I don't think I can wait for the album release, even though it's only 3 weeks away (hard to believe it's almost here!).
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Post by phil1996 on Jan 7, 2012 17:43:46 GMT -5
^ It's been on iTunes since Dec. 20th.
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Post by jlatn5b on Jan 7, 2012 17:44:25 GMT -5
From Billboard: Kellie Pickler: On Jan. 24, the singer releases her third disc, 100 Proof. In our ears, it's one of Nashville's top albums since Lee Ann Womack's "There's More Where That Came From" some seven years ago. The disc is a nod to Kellie's more traditional side, and after you've heard cuts like "Little House On The Highway," "Stop Cheating On Me," "Where's Tammy Wynette," and the poignant "Mother's Day," we think you'll be very impressed! www.billboard.com/#/column/the-615/country-music-preview-10-for-2012-1005779352.story
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 7, 2012 17:54:36 GMT -5
^ It's been on iTunes since Dec. 20th. Oh, well I use Amazon. Damnit. :( From Billboard: Kellie Pickler: On Jan. 24, the singer releases her third disc, 100 Proof. In our ears, it's one of Nashville's top albums since Lee Ann Womack's "There's More Where That Came From" some seven years ago. The disc is a nod to Kellie's more traditional side, and after you've heard cuts like "Little House On The Highway," "Stop Cheating On Me," "Where's Tammy Wynette," and the poignant "Mother's Day," we think you'll be very impressed! www.billboard.com/#/column/the-615/country-music-preview-10-for-2012-1005779352.storyI already expected things like this to be said about the album, but seeing them is just so rewarding. Man, I cannot wait!!
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Post by grayclay on Jan 7, 2012 19:44:42 GMT -5
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Post by jessy89 on Jan 10, 2012 8:01:49 GMT -5
Dabut 56... good start for kellie!!!!
In addition to the Shelton and EYB debuts, there are a plethora of new songs appearing this week. Kellie Pickler’s “100 Proof” makes a fine showing at No. 56, and so do Josh Turner’s “Time Is Love” at No. 64 and Josh Thompson’s “Comin’ Around” at No. 69.
New On The Chart—Debuting This Week Artist/song/label — chart pos. Blake Shelton/Drink On It/Warner Bros./WMN — 33 Eli Young Band/Even If It Breaks Your Heart/Republic Nashville — 44 Kellie Pickler/100 Proof/19/BNA — 56 Josh Turner/Time Is Love/MCA — 64 Josh Thompson/Comin’ Around/RCA — 69 The Farm/Home Sweet Home/All In/Elektra/New Revolution — 71 Sawyer Brown/Travelin’ Band — 73 Jackie Arredondo/Rockin’ the Trailer/Gold Voice — 74 Jesse Keith Whitley/Saving Amy/Octabrook — 75 Tim Culpepper/Ghost/HonkyTone Records — 76 Craig Campbell/When I Get It/Bigger Picture — 77 Stealing Angels/Little Blue Sky/Skyville — 79 Guy Penrod/More Power To You/Servant Records — 80
Most Added Artist/song/label — New Adds Blake Shelton/Drink On It/Warner Bros./WMN — 51 Miranda Lambert/Over You/RCA — 44 Eli Young Band/Even If It Breaks Your Heart/Republic Nashville — 41 Lady Antebellum/Dancin’ Away With My Heart/Capitol — 32 Ronnie Dunn/Let The Cowboy Rock/Arista — 25 Kellie Pickler/100 Proof/19/BNA — 24 Josh Turner/Time Is Love/MCA — 23 Tim McGraw/Better Than I Used To Be/Curb — 21 Brantley Gilbert/You Don’t Know Her Like I Do/Valory — 19 Taylor Swift/Ours/Big Machine — 10
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Post by cufan7 on Jan 10, 2012 18:19:10 GMT -5
Not a huge fan of Kellie's voice by any means but the previews sound very promising. Sounds like a big improvement in material.
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Post by someguy on Jan 10, 2012 20:48:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the plan is in waiting to release this single. With the album still scheduled to come out in a couple of weeks, it makes no sense to me why they haven't sent a second single to radio. I would have thought the album would be pushed back to give this a chance to be a hit, but the release date around the corner, that doesn't seem to be the case. I can see this album not opening very well without a hit or a current song on the radio.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 21:13:01 GMT -5
I haven't seen any "real" confirmation that this will in fact be the single...it's not up on AllAccess yet, and does not have an adds date. Nothing has been said about it by Billboard, Music Row, or Country Aircheck, either. Even the Taste Of Country review mentions how they were sent the song, but it was uncertain if it was the new single.
I'm not saying it won't be--in fact, it probably will be the single--but I could see them waiting a bit and being very careful with this. There seems to be some hype for the album, despite the lack of a major hit, but I'm sure they really want to set things up just right and if they are going to get a hit, they would probably want to make sure that they can get the timing right for this--that is, launch it when it has less of a chance to get lost in the shuffle. Because in all honesty, this could be a make or break single for Kellie. I guess the album could sell well over time, even without a single, which could cause her to have some radio success, but that's basically backwards from how it typically goes, with a decent radio hit often translating to decent album sales.
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Post by someguy on Jan 10, 2012 21:25:56 GMT -5
That's an interesting point. I hadn't even considered that it might not, in fact, be the single.
I completely agree that this next single could be make or break for Kellie, but I don't think they're handling it in the best way, to be honest. It's really hard to sell an album now, even with a hit. The lastest albums from people like Reba and Sara haven't hit 400K even with #1 hits. I can't see Kellie Picker, of all people, selling much of anything without at least a single at radio, to be honest. I'll be happy to be wrong, though. It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jan 10, 2012 21:27:40 GMT -5
^I have to agree; imo, this really needs an adds date.
Although I'm glad the album's coming out soon, I'm pretty certain we won't see a #1 country album debut for this to keep her streak going. If they're going to aim for longevity this go round, it just might happen if they pick the right singles, promote them and stick with them, and have the singles perform well on the charts. After listening to the clips, I think I'm gonna end up saving my judgments for when the album comes out (although I'm really diggin' "Rockaway") since we only have 30 seconds of what each song sounds like. I'd really love for her to get at least a top 5 or two top 10s this era (whether it incldes this one or not).
EDIT: Just one more thing to get off my chest, I don't really know who's behind the scenes with the promo and all that jazz, but quite frankly, I really think they need to get their act together. They dropped the ball big time with "Tough" and I don't want the same mistakes to happen again here.
P.S. I'm pretty sure this is the next single.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 10, 2012 21:51:11 GMT -5
This single needs to get off the ground. I want Kellie to have a big hit! :( I'm also kinda bummed that a third consecutive #1 country album looks out of the question, since I believe Tim McGraw is releasing the same week.
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Jan 10, 2012 21:55:09 GMT -5
This single needs to get off the ground. I want Kellie to have a big hit! :( I'm also kinda bummed that a third consecutive #1 country album looks out of the question, since I believe Tim McGraw is releasing the same week. Tim's album is on the 17th and this is on the 24th. Kellie might get the #1 album depending on how much Tim drops in his 2nd week.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 21:57:18 GMT -5
^That was how it was gonna be, but Tim's album got pushed back a week to the 24th.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jan 10, 2012 22:57:45 GMT -5
"100 Proof" debuted on the Billboard Country Indicator chart at #56 (as jessy89 posted above without specifying which chart) and received ten adds there. The Taste of Country review had indicated that the song was sent to secondary radio stations late last month, and the adds on Indicator stations back that assertion up. Single promotion for purposes of moving up the main chart is expensive, and BNA already funded a major national radio tour in support of "Tough" (expenses recoupable, of course). My feeling is that after Kellie's last couple of singles both sputtered without making the top-25, BNA is unsure as to whether it can get radio on board with another single. This is what I was talking about when I said that the pop bent of Kellie's sophomore album made her disposable to country radio, while her change in musical direction moved her into a space already somewhat filled by Sunny Sweeney and Ashton Shepherd (who hardly command consistent radio support themselves). Secondary market promotion is cheaper and will still gain "100 Proof" some exposure. It will still provide Kellie the basis for small market tours that will help her to build her live following (which could spur sales, downloads, and eventually have a main chart impact). Perhaps the label is thinking success on the Indicator chart can prove a springboard for an eventual main chart push. Perhaps once the whole album is out, radio personnel will be more inclined to take Kellie seriously (although Kellie has showcased several album tracks by now, and I would imagine that the label has played radio key tracks by now, too). Perhaps the label is going to start a main chart push to coincide with a new slate of TV appearances. I'm not sure if BNA has just thrown its hands up when it comes to country radio and Kellie, but I would imagine that it doesn't have high expectations for early sales in the absence of a single charting on Billboard Hot Country Songs. If there is a primary radio market plan, it looks to me like it will be a longer-term one. In the meantime, it seems to me that Kellie's team has been working TV and the internet heavily to raise awareness of her album release. They dropped the ball big time with "Tough" and I don't want the same mistakes to happen again here. I don't think BNA dropped the ball. I think the label ran into a brick wall at radio and wasn't willing to leverage obscene amounts of resources to help "Tough" to scale it when the return on investment was unlikely to be there. "Tough" wasn't spurring much in the way of download sales compared to comparably charting songs at the time, either, which may have also factored into the decision.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Jan 11, 2012 23:21:59 GMT -5
I'm now OBSESSED with this song! I hope it does well! I guess top 20 for her would be good, but this song is SOOOO much above that. I guess we'll have to wait and see. She releases great music and they seem to ignore her.
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Post by rsmatto on Jan 12, 2012 0:01:33 GMT -5
"100 Proof" debuted on the Billboard Country Indicator chart at #56 (as jessy89 posted above without specifying which chart) and received ten adds there. The Taste of Country review had indicated that the song was sent to secondary radio stations late last month, and the adds on Indicator stations back that assertion up. Single promotion for purposes of moving up the main chart is expensive, and BNA already funded a major national radio tour in support of "Tough" (expenses recoupable, of course). My feeling is that after Kellie's last couple of singles both sputtered without making the top-25, BNA is unsure as to whether it can get radio on board with another single. This is what I was talking about when I said that the pop bent of Kellie's sophomore album made her disposable to country radio, while her change in musical direction moved her into a space already somewhat filled by Sunny Sweeney and Ashton Shepherd (who hardly command consistent radio support themselves). Secondary market promotion is cheaper and will still gain "100 Proof" some exposure. It will still provide Kellie the basis for small market tours that will help her to build her live following (which could spur sales, downloads, and eventually have a main chart impact). Perhaps the label is thinking success on the Indicator chart can prove a springboard for an eventual main chart push. Perhaps once the whole album is out, radio personnel will be more inclined to take Kellie seriously (although Kellie has showcased several album tracks by now, and I would imagine that the label has played radio key tracks by now, too). Perhaps the label is going to start a main chart push to coincide with a new slate of TV appearances. I'm not sure if BNA has just thrown its hands up when it comes to country radio and Kellie, but I would imagine that it doesn't have high expectations for early sales in the absence of a single charting on Billboard Hot Country Songs. If there is a primary radio market plan, it looks to me like it will be a longer-term one. In the meantime, it seems to me that Kellie's team has been working TV and the internet heavily to raise awareness of her album release. They dropped the ball big time with "Tough" and I don't want the same mistakes to happen again here. I don't think BNA dropped the ball. I think the label ran into a brick wall at radio and wasn't willing to leverage obscene amounts of resources to help "Tough" to scale it when the return on investment was unlikely to be there. "Tough" wasn't spurring much in the way of download sales compared to comparably charting songs at the time, either, which may have also factored into the decision. BNA is just promoting Secondary markets - who have been more open to Kellie (and others) music first. They'll promote this to the big dogs soon enough.
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Post by austin on Jan 12, 2012 11:40:55 GMT -5
Has anyone ever considered that maybe radio just isn't really into Kellie? She has never really had a BIG hit, besides the Taylor co-write, and "Tough" flopped hard. I don't know, instead of blaming BNA and promo, I may look at her mediocre material as a main cause first.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jan 12, 2012 12:40:54 GMT -5
"100 Proof" debuted on the Billboard Country Indicator chart at #56 (as jessy89 posted above without specifying which chart) and received ten adds there. The Taste of Country review had indicated that the song was sent to secondary radio stations late last month, and the adds on Indicator stations back that assertion up. Single promotion for purposes of moving up the main chart is expensive, and BNA already funded a major national radio tour in support of "Tough" (expenses recoupable, of course). My feeling is that after Kellie's last couple of singles both sputtered without making the top-25, BNA is unsure as to whether it can get radio on board with another single. This is what I was talking about when I said that the pop bent of Kellie's sophomore album made her disposable to country radio, while her change in musical direction moved her into a space already somewhat filled by Sunny Sweeney and Ashton Shepherd (who hardly command consistent radio support themselves). Secondary market promotion is cheaper and will still gain "100 Proof" some exposure. It will still provide Kellie the basis for small market tours that will help her to build her live following (which could spur sales, downloads, and eventually have a main chart impact). Perhaps the label is thinking success on the Indicator chart can prove a springboard for an eventual main chart push. Perhaps once the whole album is out, radio personnel will be more inclined to take Kellie seriously (although Kellie has showcased several album tracks by now, and I would imagine that the label has played radio key tracks by now, too). Perhaps the label is going to start a main chart push to coincide with a new slate of TV appearances. I'm not sure if BNA has just thrown its hands up when it comes to country radio and Kellie, but I would imagine that it doesn't have high expectations for early sales in the absence of a single charting on Billboard Hot Country Songs. If there is a primary radio market plan, it looks to me like it will be a longer-term one. In the meantime, it seems to me that Kellie's team has been working TV and the internet heavily to raise awareness of her album release. I don't think BNA dropped the ball. I think the label ran into a brick wall at radio and wasn't willing to leverage obscene amounts of resources to help "Tough" to scale it when the return on investment was unlikely to be there. "Tough" wasn't spurring much in the way of download sales compared to comparably charting songs at the time, either, which may have also factored into the decision. BNA is just promoting Secondary markets - who have been more open to Kellie (and others) music first. They'll promote this to the big dogs soon enough. That sounds like a plan . That's how Randy Travis' label turned Three Wooden Crosses into such a big hit if I remember correctly. Has anyone ever considered that maybe radio just isn't really into Kellie? She has never really had a BIG hit, besides the Taylor co-write, and "Tough" flopped hard. I don't know, instead of blaming BNA and promo, I may look at her mediocre material as a main cause first. By that assessment, I would think Kellie would be a format superstar since country radio seems to love mediocrity. Especially considering the bigger the star the more mediocre their music seems to get. I don't know how smart putting out a traditional leaning record is right now , but I'm super excited about it. I'm gonna make the prediction that if Kellie can squeak out a top 15 single, she will get some album of the year nominations next year.
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Post by jessy89 on Jan 14, 2012 7:56:07 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 14, 2012 10:06:55 GMT -5
Could you please let me know how it does at KMart? Thanks!
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jan 15, 2012 8:48:15 GMT -5
^ When was the last time anyone bought an album anything at Kmart?
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 15, 2012 13:55:26 GMT -5
^ When was the last time anyone bought an album anything at Kmart? Ha-ha. Very funny!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 23:10:14 GMT -5
GMA performance announced: January 25!
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