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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 25, 2019 8:37:35 GMT -5
THURSDAY UPDATE:
1 1 JONAS BROTHERS Sucker 18587 16792 1795 98.423 4 2 SAM SMITH & NORMANI Dancing With A Stranger 15724 13961 1763 83.266 6 3 ARIANA GRANDE Break Up With Your Girlfriend 14614 13400 1214 76.920 2 4 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 14484 15468 -984 81.493 5 5 AVA MAX Sweet But Psycho 14472 13429 1043 69.640 9 6 POST MALONE Wow 13016 11957 1059 64.061 7 7 HALSEY Without Me 11294 12601 -1307 63.440 3 8 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 11081 14081 -3000 51.916 10 9 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10272 11350 -1078 58.287 8 10 KHALID Better 9732 12224 -2492 44.586
11 11 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 9020 8838 182 40.530 12 12 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/ 5SOS Who Do You Love 8464 8039 425 38.218 17 13 LIL NAS X Old Town Road 7874 5565 2309 34.523 13 14 LIL PEEP & ILOVEMAKONNEN I've Been Waiting f/FallOutBoy 7457 7446 11 27.626 15 15 MARSHMELLO Here With Me f/Chvrches 7438 6607 831 32.502 14 16 FLETCHER Undrunk 6509 7341 -832 24.425 16 17 MABEL Don't Call Me Up 6165 5725 440 27.622 21 18 JONAS BROTHERS Cool 5536 4243 1293 26.618 18 19 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 5494 5294 200 30.851 26 20 BILLIE EILISH When The Party's Over 4661 3450 1211 21.323
20 21 BEBE REXHA Last Hurrah 4547 4433 114 15.651 22 22 PANIC! AT THE DISCO Hey Look Ma, I Made It 4254 3866 388 17.622 27 23 KHALID Talk 4119 3062 1057 21.949 25 24 LAUV & TROYE SIVAN i'm so tired... 4024 3577 447 15.693 23 25 ALLY BROOKE Low Key f/Tyga 3858 3848 10 13.931 19 26 LAUREN DAIGLE You Say 3746 5000 -1254 14.296 29 27 BTS Boy With Luv f/Halsey 3111 2275 836 12.741 28 28 ALESSIA CARA Out Of Love 2858 2582 276 8.386 30 29 B. BLANCO/TAINY/GOMEZ/BALVIN I Can't Get Enough 2364 2223 141 8.399 31 30 DRAX PROJECT Woke Up Late f/H. Steinfeld 2131 1943 188 5.503
32 31 BRYCE VINE La La Land f/YG 1919 1695 224 5.376 33 32 AJ MITCHELL All My Friends 1889 1634 255 3.139 49 33 DADDY YANKEE & KATY PERRY Con Calma f/Snow 1674 495 1179 12.563 24 34 CARDI B & BRUNO MARS Please Me 1627 3745 -2118 6.289 35 35 NOTD & FELIX JAEHN & CAPTAIN.. So Close f/Georgia Ku 1482 1337 145 3.526 34 36 BAD BUNNY MIA f/Drake 1359 1489 -130 14.235 36 37 P!NK Walk Me Home 1356 1191 165 3.867 45 38 BILLIE EILISH bad guy 1288 625 663 8.900 37 39 H.E.R. Hard Place 1124 1178 -54 4.303 40 40 TWENTY ONE PILOTS Chlorine 1092 970 122 2.018
42 41 LIZZO Juice 1088 804 284 4.247 47 42 TRAVIS SCOTT Wake Up f/The Weeknd 1052 508 544 3.448 53 43 JENNIFER LOPEZ Medicine f/French Montana 950 421 529 3.452 -- 44 LIL DICKY Earth 883 0 883 5.054 44 45 MEEK MILL Going Bad f/Drake 716 664 52 4.511 46 46 KIANA LEDE Ex 640 537 103 1.824 38 47 JAKE MILLER Wait For You 604 1097 -493 1.540 43 48 GALANTIS Bones f/OneRepublic 576 689 -113 0.850 50 49 CIARA Thinkin Bout You 550 487 63 1.198 41 50 JULIA MICHAELS What A Time f/Niall Horan 534 878 -344 0.402
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 25, 2019 10:18:13 GMT -5
Earth did not just go from a first day over 500 spins and second day over 300 to barely getting 20. Ouch!
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Post by tomgsinger on Apr 25, 2019 11:45:21 GMT -5
Earth did not just go from a first day over 500 spins and second day over 300 to barely getting 20. Ouch! Actually, the 500 spin update was over three days and a portion of a fourth (Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday). The 300 spin day was from the fourth full day, and it has gotten small gains ever since.
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Post by Lukas on Apr 25, 2019 21:07:10 GMT -5
So I've seen a year-end list for 2019 and earlier yearswith actual data by scanning through this thread. What I haven't seen a yet is decade-end list yet for Mediabase. Which should be interesting considering it will probably differ a lot by the actual Hot 100 decade-end list. So I've decided to start that based off of the data I currently have right now. I can probably get a top 50 list within a week and a top 100 list within a month or so. Depends on how much I trust my multipliers lol. Obviously, it will have to be based on chart positions and not actual performances because that's what Billboard does. We actually do have that, although it hasn’t been updated in a few months: pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/175086/mediabase-decade-date-pt-iiApparently there was an update yesterday regarding the list. I'm obviously not trying to degrade the list. But I do think that different eras should be weighted to account for the various turnover rates. And idk if charting all of the weeks in the top 40 is even necessary. I also think that there should be a recurrent rule lol. And because isn't a rule saying that I can't make my own list based off of the data, I will post my first edition of the list next week. It will probably just be 50 songs, but I should have the top 100 on lock within the next two weeks. But I obviously don't want to duplicate anyone else's work, so this is how my list will differ from the list currently given:
1) The points system for each rank will be representative of real data from various days in the decade. 2) There will be several periods that will have different multipliers to account for the various turnover rates. Obviously, recent times will thus have the lowest multiplier. 3) Once a song drops below #10 or spends 20 weeks on the chart it will no longer be eligible to gain points.I'll post more updates regarding it later.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 26, 2019 6:50:38 GMT -5
FRIDAY UPDATE:
1 1 JONAS BROTHERS Sucker 18632 17116 1516 98.776 3 2 SAM SMITH & NORMANI Dancing With A Stranger 15878 14266 1612 83.429 5 3 ARIANA GRANDE Break Up With Your Girlfriend 14760 13583 1177 77.486 6 4 AVA MAX Sweet But Psycho 14568 13568 1000 70.511 2 5 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 14404 15279 -875 81.787 8 6 POST MALONE Wow 13171 12126 1045 64.551 7 7 HALSEY Without Me 11139 12433 -1294 62.787 4 8 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 10642 13716 -3074 50.646 10 9 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10229 11153 -924 58.582 9 10 KHALID Better 9510 11869 -2359 44.231
11 11 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 8986 8844 142 40.585 12 12 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/ 5SOS Who Do You Love 8527 8076 451 38.768 16 13 LIL NAS X Old Town Road 8144 5896 2248 35.825 15 14 MARSHMELLO Here With Me f/Chvrches 7476 6761 715 32.641 13 15 LIL PEEP & ILOVEMAKONNEN I've Been Waiting f/FallOutBoy 7426 7455 -29 27.287 17 16 MABEL Don't Call Me Up 6208 5802 406 27.846 14 17 FLETCHER Undrunk 6030 7300 -1270 22.466 21 18 JONAS BROTHERS Cool 5621 4411 1210 26.876 18 19 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 5521 5268 253 30.808 25 20 BILLIE EILISH When The Party's Over 4826 3635 1191 21.959
20 21 BEBE REXHA Last Hurrah 4506 4495 11 15.340 27 22 KHALID Talk 4314 3201 1113 22.828 22 23 PANIC! AT THE DISCO Hey Look Ma, I Made It 4282 3918 364 17.722 24 24 LAUV & TROYE SIVAN i'm so tired... 4065 3638 427 15.822 23 25 ALLY BROOKE Low Key f/Tyga 3824 3873 -49 13.924 19 26 LAUREN DAIGLE You Say 3491 4897 -1406 13.198 28 27 BTS Boy With Luv f/Halsey 3248 2653 595 12.852 29 28 ALESSIA CARA Out Of Love 2861 2608 253 8.573 30 29 B. BLANCO/TAINY/GOMEZ/BALVIN I Can't Get Enough 2377 2246 131 8.239 31 30 DRAX PROJECT Woke Up Late f/H. Steinfeld 2134 1961 173 5.486
48 31 DADDY YANKEE & KATY PERRY Con Calma f/Snow 1976 527 1449 14.382 32 32 BRYCE VINE La La Land f/YG 1937 1721 216 5.498 33 33 AJ MITCHELL All My Friends 1927 1651 276 3.187 26 34 CARDI B & BRUNO MARS Please Me 1559 3294 -1735 6.175 35 35 NOTD & FELIX JAEHN & CAPTAIN.. So Close f/Georgia Ku 1474 1367 107 3.490 36 36 P!NK Walk Me Home 1404 1198 206 4.032 43 37 BILLIE EILISH bad guy 1400 714 686 9.511 34 38 BAD BUNNY MIA f/Drake 1353 1471 -118 14.328 41 39 LIZZO Juice 1132 838 294 4.568 37 40 H.E.R. Hard Place 1103 1171 -68 4.149
46 41 TRAVIS SCOTT Wake Up f/The Weeknd 1099 575 524 3.453 39 42 TWENTY ONE PILOTS Chlorine 1094 995 99 1.986 49 43 JENNIFER LOPEZ Medicine f/French Montana 977 510 467 3.473 320 44 LIL DICKY Earth 910 4 906 5.118 45 45 MEEK MILL Going Bad f/Drake 712 669 43 4.497 47 46 KIANA LEDE Ex 660 543 117 1.865 51 47 CIARA Thinkin Bout You 559 490 69 1.216 64 48 PUSH BABY Mama's House 551 258 293 1.596 38 49 JAKE MILLER Wait For You 551 1033 -482 1.493 50 50 LOUIS TOMLINSON Two Of Us 537 501 36 0.971
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Post by Pat the Cat on Apr 26, 2019 10:09:49 GMT -5
Apparently there was an update yesterday regarding the list. I'm obviously not trying to degrade the list. But I do think that different eras should be weighted to account for the various turnover rates. And idk if charting all of the weeks in the top 40 is even necessary. I also think that there should be a recurrent rule lol. And because isn't a rule saying that I can't make my own list based off of the data, I will post my first edition of the list next week. It will probably just be 50 songs, but I should have the top 100 on lock within the next two weeks. But I obviously don't want to duplicate anyone else's work, so this is how my list will differ from the list currently given:
1) The points system for each rank will be representative of real data from various days in the decade. 2) There will be several periods that will have different multipliers to account for the various turnover rates. Obviously, recent times will thus have the lowest multiplier. 3) Once a song drops below #10 or spends 20 weeks on the chart it will no longer be eligible to gain points.I'll post more updates regarding it later. #1 sounds solid, and I'm definitely interested in #2 - we've taken note of how much point totals per song are inflating over time in that thread. But for #3, this will dramatically skew your chart in favor of slow risers against slow fallers. There's no wrong way to compile your chart, by all means implement any rules you want. But know what you're getting with the rules you designate.
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Post by Lukas on Apr 26, 2019 11:31:46 GMT -5
Apparently there was an update yesterday regarding the list. I'm obviously not trying to degrade the list. But I do think that different eras should be weighted to account for the various turnover rates. And idk if charting all of the weeks in the top 40 is even necessary. I also think that there should be a recurrent rule lol. And because isn't a rule saying that I can't make my own list based off of the data, I will post my first edition of the list next week. It will probably just be 50 songs, but I should have the top 100 on lock within the next two weeks. But I obviously don't want to duplicate anyone else's work, so this is how my list will differ from the list currently given:
1) The points system for each rank will be representative of real data from various days in the decade. 2) There will be several periods that will have different multipliers to account for the various turnover rates. Obviously, recent times will thus have the lowest multiplier. 3) Once a song drops below #10 or spends 20 weeks on the chart it will no longer be eligible to gain points.I'll post more updates regarding it later. #1 sounds solid, and I'm definitely interested in #2 - we've taken note of how much point totals per song are inflating over time in that thread. But for #3, this will dramatically skew your chart in favor of slow risers against slow fallers. There's no wrong way to compile your chart, by all means implement any rules you want. But know what you're getting with the rules you designate. I wouldn't be hesitant to change it from 10 to 15 or 20 to skew the chart less, given into account what was said. The only reason why rule 3 was there in the first place was because that's how Mediabase decides which songs move to recurrent. But I probably won't go beyond 20 because older songs do stay in the 21-30 range for a lot of time.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 27, 2019 7:35:37 GMT -5
SATURDAY UPDATE:
1 1 JONAS BROTHERS Sucker 18626 17484 1142 98.950 3 2 SAM SMITH & NORMANI Dancing With A Stranger 16007 14603 1404 83.665 4 3 ARIANA GRANDE Break Up With Your Girlfriend 14838 13786 1052 77.028 5 4 AVA MAX Sweet But Psycho 14579 13768 811 70.527 2 5 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 14269 15093 -824 81.307 7 6 POST MALONE Wow 13337 12298 1039 65.024 8 7 HALSEY Without Me 11044 12251 -1207 62.332 6 8 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 10165 13349 -3184 49.312 10 9 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10158 11002 -844 58.575 9 10 KHALID Better 9264 11504 -2240 43.469
11 11 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 8931 8921 10 40.281 12 12 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/ 5SOS Who Do You Love 8545 8110 435 38.640 16 13 LIL NAS X Old Town Road 8375 6246 2129 36.707 15 14 MARSHMELLO Here With Me f/Chvrches 7487 6837 650 32.567 13 15 LIL PEEP & ILOVEMAKONNEN I've Been Waiting f/FallOutBoy 7297 7511 -214 26.581 17 16 MABEL Don't Call Me Up 6253 5865 388 27.735 20 17 JONAS BROTHERS Cool 5674 4605 1069 26.983 14 18 FLETCHER Undrunk 5496 7285 -1789 20.523 18 19 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 5493 5309 184 30.290 24 20 BILLIE EILISH When The Party's Over 4874 3814 1060 21.811
26 21 KHALID Talk 4519 3341 1178 23.825 21 22 BEBE REXHA Last Hurrah 4455 4528 -73 15.012 22 23 PANIC! AT THE DISCO Hey Look Ma, I Made It 4306 3962 344 17.620 25 24 LAUV & TROYE SIVAN i'm so tired... 4048 3697 351 15.795 23 25 ALLY BROOKE Low Key f/Tyga 3751 3893 -142 13.465 30 26 BTS Boy With Luv f/Halsey 3330 2216 1114 12.821 19 27 LAUREN DAIGLE You Say 3236 4786 -1550 12.090 -- 28 TAYLOR SWIFT ME! f/Brendon Urie 2992 0 2992 18.862 28 29 ALESSIA CARA Out Of Love 2892 2645 247 8.729 29 30 B. BLANCO/TAINY/GOMEZ/BALVIN I Can't Get Enough 2363 2285 78 8.229
31 31 DRAX PROJECT Woke Up Late f/H. Steinfeld 2177 1958 219 5.502 44 32 DADDY YANKEE & KATY PERRY Con Calma f/Snow 2115 687 1428 14.211 32 33 BRYCE VINE La La Land f/YG 1929 1776 153 5.536 33 34 AJ MITCHELL All My Friends 1927 1665 262 3.250 27 35 CARDI B & BRUNO MARS Please Me 1496 2921 -1425 6.009 35 36 NOTD & FELIX JAEHN & CAPTAIN.. So Close f/Georgia Ku 1462 1383 79 3.379 42 37 BILLIE EILISH bad guy 1457 819 638 9.507 36 38 P!NK Walk Me Home 1417 1217 200 4.011 34 39 BAD BUNNY MIA f/Drake 1341 1474 -133 14.512 40 40 LIZZO Juice 1131 883 248 4.477
47 41 TRAVIS SCOTT Wake Up f/The Weeknd 1126 648 478 3.505 38 42 TWENTY ONE PILOTS Chlorine 1095 1021 74 1.974 37 43 H.E.R. Hard Place 1074 1171 -97 4.010 48 44 JENNIFER LOPEZ Medicine f/French Montana 976 603 373 3.422 45 45 MEEK MILL Going Bad f/Drake 716 681 35 4.506 70 46 LIL DICKY Earth 713 217 496 3.933 49 47 KIANA LEDE Ex 674 559 115 1.893 51 48 LOUIS TOMLINSON Two Of Us 572 500 72 1.148 50 49 CIARA Thinkin Bout You 557 504 53 1.187 59 50 PUSH BABY Mama's House 556 307 249 1.583
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 8:45:50 GMT -5
Damn Taylor!! Thought it would hit like 35 or something! Man!
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Post by tomgsinger on Apr 27, 2019 9:33:07 GMT -5
Taylor just broke her own record for highest debut by about 100 spins (
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 28, 2019 6:17:58 GMT -5
SUNDAY MORNING UPDATE:
1 1 JONAS BROTHERS Sucker 18648 17851 797 99.189 3 2 SAM SMITH & NORMANI Dancing With A Stranger 16113 14849 1264 84.396 4 3 ARIANA GRANDE Break Up With Your Girlfriend 14909 13969 940 77.178 5 4 AVA MAX Sweet But Psycho 14605 13920 685 71.260 2 5 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 14143 14928 -785 80.706 7 6 POST MALONE Wow 13461 12467 994 65.439 8 7 HALSEY Without Me 10912 12024 -1112 61.942 10 8 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10127 10835 -708 58.986 6 9 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 9705 12873 -3168 47.695 9 10 KHALID Better 9052 11053 -2001 42.711
11 11 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 8929 8907 22 40.385 16 12 LIL NAS X Old Town Road 8568 6644 1924 37.870 12 13 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/ 5SOS Who Do You Love 8559 8252 307 38.772 15 14 MARSHMELLO Here With Me f/Chvrches 7523 6928 595 32.785 13 15 LIL PEEP & ILOVEMAKONNEN I've Been Waiting f/FallOutBoy 7218 7447 -229 25.988 17 16 MABEL Don't Call Me Up 6328 5933 395 27.812 19 17 JONAS BROTHERS Cool 5719 4848 871 26.895 18 18 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 5523 5355 168 30.295 23 19 BILLIE EILISH When The Party's Over 5006 3968 1038 22.153 14 20 FLETCHER Undrunk 4871 7246 -2375 18.019
26 21 KHALID Talk 4726 3455 1271 24.830 22 22 PANIC! AT THE DISCO Hey Look Ma, I Made It 4348 4068 280 17.579 21 23 BEBE REXHA Last Hurrah 4335 4521 -186 14.591 -- 24 TAYLOR SWIFT ME! f/Brendon Urie 4239 0 4239 25.815 25 25 LAUV & TROYE SIVAN i'm so tired... 4085 3788 297 15.859 24 26 ALLY BROOKE Low Key f/Tyga 3590 3901 -311 12.805 29 27 BTS Boy With Luv f/Halsey 3476 2355 1121 13.138 20 28 LAUREN DAIGLE You Say 2999 4594 -1595 11.155 27 29 ALESSIA CARA Out Of Love 2905 2751 154 8.756 30 30 B. BLANCO/TAINY/GOMEZ/BALVIN I Can't Get Enough 2321 2326 -5 7.957
40 31 DADDY YANKEE & KATY PERRY Con Calma f/Snow 2314 904 1410 14.931 31 32 DRAX PROJECT Woke Up Late f/H. Steinfeld 2192 1981 211 5.527 32 33 BRYCE VINE La La Land f/YG 1970 1824 146 5.973 33 34 AJ MITCHELL All My Friends 1965 1733 232 3.595 42 35 BILLIE EILISH bad guy 1548 893 655 9.843 34 36 NOTD & FELIX JAEHN & CAPTAIN.. So Close f/Georgia Ku 1465 1464 1 3.406 36 37 P!NK Walk Me Home 1441 1251 190 4.048 28 38 CARDI B & BRUNO MARS Please Me 1423 2582 -1159 5.897 35 39 BAD BUNNY MIA f/Drake 1368 1451 -83 14.828 39 40 LIZZO Juice 1172 909 263 4.807
44 41 TRAVIS SCOTT Wake Up f/The Weeknd 1141 738 403 3.477 38 42 TWENTY ONE PILOTS Chlorine 1104 1023 81 1.989 47 43 JENNIFER LOPEZ Medicine f/French Montana 1005 669 336 3.527 37 44 H.E.R. Hard Place 999 1152 -153 3.481 45 45 MEEK MILL Going Bad f/Drake 738 677 61 4.543 48 46 KIANA LEDE Ex 678 585 93 1.868 56 47 LIL DICKY Earth 613 356 257 3.568 50 48 LOUIS TOMLINSON Two Of Us 577 513 64 1.130 49 49 CIARA Thinkin Bout You 566 515 51 1.250 58 50 PUSH BABY Mama's House 565 355 210 1.524
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Post by Leo ✔ on Apr 28, 2019 8:20:02 GMT -5
Mía is finally going to recurrent. Hard Place might be purged :'(
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Post by Cerebro on Apr 28, 2019 8:32:30 GMT -5
Mía is finally going to recurrent. Hard Place might be purged :'( "Hard Place" had a bullet last week. It's safe until next week.
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 28, 2019 12:07:13 GMT -5
Eastside is back up to #8? smh
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 28, 2019 12:55:36 GMT -5
Eastside is back up to #8? smh Radio has gotten exceedingly stingy with the spin losses for both 'Eastside' and 'Without Me' again in the past few days. Alongside Dean's apparent flatlining and FOB/Fletcher dying out, radio doesn't seem to give a f**k how old #7-10 are on the chart they're just point blank refusing to let anything replace them in the top 10 under ANY circumstances it seems. Radio has a really f**king infuriating habit of doing that lately (like seriously have you forgotten what the hell turnover is?!) Which is not exactly true because Ellie is still utterly self-destructing and we're about to see Lil Meme #Next replace her, and Khalid is not long for this chart but it looks like Chainsmokers/5SOS will be the replacement for that. Radio won't let Dean sneak in there apparently, and I get the feeling once he peaks he will also utterly implode (this will be week 27 on-chart for him, and the apparently strong call-out he's been getting doesn't seem to count for s**t). Once those two songs make the top 10 IDK what else is going to be in range for a top 10 spot any time soon except maybe Taylor.
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Post by marc980 on Apr 28, 2019 12:57:13 GMT -5
I hope we see a major clean out on Top 10 next week. Close to Me and Better will probably be gone, but I hope at least Eastside goes too.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 28, 2019 13:01:35 GMT -5
I hope we see a major clean out on Top 10 next week. We won't. Lil Nas X goes top 10, and either Chainsmokers/5SOS or Dean will too (I lean heavily CS/5SOS on this since radio is treating Dean like s**t). Next closest is Marshmello/Chvrches, but heaven knows how long it'll take for Halsey/Benny Blanco to clear out a spot for them, and Taylor will undoubtedly slingshot her way up the airplay chart in the next couple weeks to cut in front of them.
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Post by Lukas on Apr 28, 2019 16:28:11 GMT -5
Eastside is back up to #8? smh Radio has gotten exceedingly stingy with the spin losses for both 'Eastside' and 'Without Me' again in the past few days. Alongside Dean's apparent flatlining and FOB/Fletcher dying out, radio doesn't seem to give a f**k how old #7-10 are on the chart they're just point blank refusing to let anything replace them in the top 10 under ANY circumstances it seems. Radio has a really f**king infuriating habit of doing that lately (like seriously have you forgotten what the hell turnover is?!) Which is not exactly true because Ellie is still utterly self-destructing and we're about to see Lil Meme #Next replace her, and Khalid is not long for this chart but it looks like Chainsmokers/5SOS will be the replacement for that. Radio won't let Dean sneak in there apparently, and I get the feeling once he peaks he will also utterly implode (this will be week 27 on-chart for him, and the apparently strong call-out he's been getting doesn't seem to count for s**t). Once those two songs make the top 10 IDK what else is going to be in range for a top 10 spot any time soon except maybe Taylor. Isn't the reason why the two Halsey songs are still in the top 10 is because of AI? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate one of those two songs. But both of them are doing better in terms of Audience Impression than they are in spins. Radio can't kill songs just because they're old. If people still want to listen to these songs like almost every hour then radio should let them, regardless of how slow the turnover rate may be. The main point is, if people still want to listen to those songs, then we should just let it be regardless.
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 28, 2019 16:32:48 GMT -5
Radio has gotten exceedingly stingy with the spin losses for both 'Eastside' and 'Without Me' again in the past few days. Alongside Dean's apparent flatlining and FOB/Fletcher dying out, radio doesn't seem to give a f**k how old #7-10 are on the chart they're just point blank refusing to let anything replace them in the top 10 under ANY circumstances it seems. Radio has a really f**king infuriating habit of doing that lately (like seriously have you forgotten what the hell turnover is?!) Which is not exactly true because Ellie is still utterly self-destructing and we're about to see Lil Meme #Next replace her, and Khalid is not long for this chart but it looks like Chainsmokers/5SOS will be the replacement for that. Radio won't let Dean sneak in there apparently, and I get the feeling once he peaks he will also utterly implode (this will be week 27 on-chart for him, and the apparently strong call-out he's been getting doesn't seem to count for s**t). Once those two songs make the top 10 IDK what else is going to be in range for a top 10 spot any time soon except maybe Taylor. Isn't the reason why the two Halsey songs are still in the top 10 is because of AI? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate one of those two songs. But both of them are doing better in terms of Audience Impression than they are in spins. Radio can't kill songs just because they're old. If people still want to listen to these songs like almost every hour then radio should let them, regardless of how slow the turnover rate may be. The main point is, if people still want to listen to those songs, then we should just let it be regardless. AI is just an estimated measure of how many people heard the song while it was played on radio. It doesn't measure how much people like it or dislike it. Higher AI just means more spins in larger markets.
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Post by Lukas on Apr 28, 2019 16:40:38 GMT -5
Isn't the reason why the two Halsey songs are still in the top 10 is because of AI? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate one of those two songs. But both of them are doing better in terms of Audience Impression than they are in spins. Radio can't kill songs just because they're old. If people still want to listen to these songs like almost every hour then radio should let them, regardless of how slow the turnover rate may be. The main point is, if people still want to listen to those songs, then we should just let it be regardless. AI is just an estimated measure of how many people heard the song while it was played on radio. It doesn't measure how much people like it or dislike it. Higher AI just means more spins in larger markets. Ah, I see. But if people are still listening to a certain song it's only logical that radio keeps playing it.
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 28, 2019 16:44:50 GMT -5
AI is just an estimated measure of how many people heard the song while it was played on radio. It doesn't measure how much people like it or dislike it. Higher AI just means more spins in larger markets. Ah, I see. But if people are still listening to a certain song it's only logical that radio keeps playing it. No, AI is estimated by when and where it's played. Without Me and I've Been Waiting could both be played on Z100 at 5:15pm on a Wednesday and would receive the same amount of AI. The song has nothing to do with how AI is calculated, just by which station plays it and when. It's pretty easy to see this with MIA. That track has an insane amount of AI for its placements and spins, but that's because larger markets/stations with more reported listeners are spinning it quite a bit still while smaller stations aren't. Meanwhile Chlorine is getting played by smaller markets more.
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Post by CoJoFan on Apr 28, 2019 17:47:46 GMT -5
Wow! Still no new top 10’s this week?
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Post by Leo ✔ on Apr 28, 2019 20:10:31 GMT -5
SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE
1 1 JONAS BROTHERS Sucker 18662 17851 811 99.199 3 2 SAM SMITH & NORMANI Dancing With A Stranger 16120 14849 1271 84.403 4 3 ARIANA GRANDE Break Up With Your Girlfriend 14904 13969 935 77.179 5 4 AVA MAX Sweet But Psycho 14609 13920 689 71.264 2 5 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 14158 14928 -770 80.724 7 6 POST MALONE Wow 13466 12467 999 65.444 8 7 HALSEY Without Me 10927 12024 -1097 61.957 10 8 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10136 10835 -699 58.996 6 9 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 9714 12873 -3159 47.704 9 10 KHALID Better 9055 11053 -1998 42.712
11 11 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 8930 8907 23 40.387 16 12 LIL NAS X Old Town Road 8576 6644 1932 37.877 12 13 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/ 5SOS Who Do You Love 8562 8252 310 38.774 15 14 MARSHMELLO Here With Me f/Chvrches 7542 6928 614 32.802 13 15 LIL PEEP & ILOVEMAKONNEN I've Been Waiting f/FallOutBoy 7224 7447 -223 25.995 17 16 MABEL Don't Call Me Up 6331 5933 398 27.813 19 17 JONAS BROTHERS Cool 5721 4848 873 26.896 18 18 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 5510 5355 155 30.288 23 19 BILLIE EILISH When The Party's Over 5005 3968 1037 22.150 14 20 FLETCHER Undrunk 4879 7246 -2367 18.024
26 21 KHALID Talk 4726 3455 1271 24.833 22 22 PANIC! AT THE DISCO Hey Look Ma, I Made It 4350 4068 282 17.579 21 23 BEBE REXHA Last Hurrah 4338 4521 -183 14.594 -- 24 TAYLOR SWIFT ME! f/Brendon Urie 4233 0 4233 25.820 25 25 LAUV & TROYE SIVAN i'm so tired... 4081 3788 293 15.856 24 26 ALLY BROOKE Low Key f/Tyga 3594 3901 -307 12.810 29 27 BTS Boy With Luv f/Halsey 3474 2355 1119 13.135 20 28 LAUREN DAIGLE You Say 3002 4594 -1592 11.155 27 29 ALESSIA CARA Out Of Love 2906 2751 155 8.758 30 30 B. BLANCO/TAINY/GOMEZ/BALVIN I Can't Get Enough 2321 2326 -5 7.959
40 31 DADDY YANKEE & KATY PERRY Con Calma f/Snow 2310 904 1406 14.930 31 32 DRAX PROJECT Woke Up Late f/H. Steinfeld 2194 1981 213 5.531 32 33 BRYCE VINE La La Land f/YG 1970 1824 146 5.973 33 34 AJ MITCHELL All My Friends 1964 1733 231 3.595 42 35 BILLIE EILISH bad guy 1548 893 655 9.843 34 36 NOTD & FELIX JAEHN & CAPTAIN.. So Close f/Georgia Ku 1468 1464 4 3.411 36 37 P!NK Walk Me Home 1441 1251 190 4.048 28 38 CARDI B & BRUNO MARS Please Me 1422 2582 -1160 5.897 39 39 LIZZO Juice 1172 909 263 4.807 44 40 TRAVIS SCOTT Wake Up f/The Weeknd 1142 738 404 3.477
38 41 TWENTY ONE PILOTS Chlorine 1104 1023 81 1.989 47 42 JENNIFER LOPEZ Medicine f/French Montana 1003 669 334 3.526 37 43 H.E.R. Hard Place 999 1152 -153 3.481 45 44 MEEK MILL Going Bad f/Drake 738 677 61 4.543 48 45 KIANA LEDE Ex 677 585 92 1.867 56 46 LIL DICKY Earth 613 356 257 3.568 50 47 LOUIS TOMLINSON Two Of Us 578 513 65 1.130 49 48 CIARA Thinkin Bout You 566 515 51 1.252 58 49 PUSH BABY Mama's House 565 355 210 1.524 60 50 DAN + SHAY Speechless 527 296 231 1.793
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 20:18:33 GMT -5
Did Mediabase for real give Shallow more time!!! Even if it’s slightly gaining it got no f**king chance at Top 10. Yes Speechless.
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 28, 2019 20:29:49 GMT -5
Did Mediabase for real give Shallow more time!!! Well, yeah. It still has a bullet. It literally cannot go recurrent with a bullet.
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Post by erzo01 on Apr 28, 2019 22:09:27 GMT -5
Give "Be Alright" that single week inside the Top 10, then it can go recurrent and move on with "Stay Awake".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 22:30:46 GMT -5
Eastside is back up to #8? smh Radio has gotten exceedingly stingy with the spin losses for both 'Eastside' and 'Without Me' again in the past few days. Alongside Dean's apparent flatlining and FOB/Fletcher dying out, radio doesn't seem to give a f**k how old #7-10 are on the chart they're just point blank refusing to let anything replace them in the top 10 under ANY circumstances it seems. Radio has a really f**king infuriating habit of doing that lately (like seriously have you forgotten what the hell turnover is?!) Which is not exactly true because Ellie is still utterly self-destructing and we're about to see Lil Meme #Next replace her, and Khalid is not long for this chart but it looks like Chainsmokers/5SOS will be the replacement for that. Radio won't let Dean sneak in there apparently, and I get the feeling once he peaks he will also utterly implode (this will be week 27 on-chart for him, and the apparently strong call-out he's been getting doesn't seem to count for s**t). Once those two songs make the top 10 IDK what else is going to be in range for a top 10 spot any time soon except maybe Taylor. Better shouldn't be slipping in the first place, but the most frustrating thing about its fall is that somehow even with it also falling out, Be Alright couldn't rise above it on a Sunday chart because of radio's absolute refusal. Dean will probably get an unofficial #10 peak tomorrow and be leapfrogged by OTR on Tuesday or Wednesday, with Chainsmokers' squeaking ahead later in the week. I don't care for the song myself but Dean should have entered the top 10 weeks ago. Fletcher is another one who objectively should still be climbing based on feedback, but instead radio is letting her go. Isn't the reason why the two Halsey songs are still in the top 10 is because of AI? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate one of those two songs. But both of them are doing better in terms of Audience Impression than they are in spins. Radio can't kill songs just because they're old. If people still want to listen to these songs like almost every hour then radio should let them, regardless of how slow the turnover rate may be. The main point is, if people still want to listen to those songs, then we should just let it be regardless. Well that's the thing - callout is implying the opposite. (As Au$tin mentioned above, AI only measures how many people heard a song when it was played; it doesn't measure how people felt about it when they heard it.) Eastside does still have a high net positive, but it also has a very high burn rate - people are growing tired of the song. Without Me in particular has an even higher burn rate and its net positive has dropped below 40%, so that one should definitely be bleeding spins right now, but it's not. Fletcher and Dean Lewis both came back in with good feedback, but now radio is dropping them both. I have complained in the past that radio seems to rely too much on callout (specifically, the favorite metric), but I am starting to become concerned that radio is starting to shift toward too much emphasis on outside factors such as sales and streaming.
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Post by mkarns on Apr 28, 2019 22:55:26 GMT -5
Ah, I see. But if people are still listening to a certain song it's only logical that radio keeps playing it. No, AI is estimated by when and where it's played. Without Me and I've Been Waiting could both be played on Z100 at 5:15pm on a Wednesday and would receive the same amount of AI. The song has nothing to do with how AI is calculated, just by which station plays it and when. It's pretty easy to see this with MIA. That track has an insane amount of AI for its placements and spins, but that's because larger markets/stations with more reported listeners are spinning it quite a bit still while smaller stations aren't. Meanwhile Chlorine is getting played by smaller markets more. MIA can't be played that much on larger market stations if it can't get above the mid-30s. And while I'd have liked Chlorine to go higher, if My Blood couldn't rise above #30 or so then there wasn't much reason to think the followup would become a big hit. 21P apparently weren't aiming much at radio other than alt/rock this era.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 28, 2019 23:11:35 GMT -5
LMAO no. Look at the AI that 'MIA' had in the morning update just prior to its recurrency. Almost 15 million AI and it barely had enough spins for top 40 in its current climate. All of the biggest stations in the country are still going hard for that song it looks like, which (I believe) peaked just shy of the top 20 before it died out.
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Post by mkarns on Apr 29, 2019 0:03:17 GMT -5
LMAO no. Look at the AI that 'MIA' had in the morning update just prior to its recurrency. Almost 15 million AI and it barely had enough spins for top 40 in its current climate. All of the biggest stations in the country are still going hard for that song it looks like, which (I believe) peaked just shy of the top 20 before it died out. Looking back a few pages it appears that MIA did get to #21, about two months ago. Which still raises questions of why if the largest market stations are or have played it so much, why didn't it get any higher (even with a Drake feature)? Did hardly anyone else play it that much? And on another subject I wonder along with others why there has been so little movement into or within the top 10. One would think that many of the songs therein have long since passed into "enough already!" territory with many listeners (naturally hurting callout), but there they still are, in some cases even moving back up after weeks or months near the top.
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