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Post by kylecburke on Aug 1, 2012 12:47:13 GMT -5
Its amazing that her album is still in Top 50. THats so impressive when you think that her album is having more longevity then any other album other then Breakaway (which is a accpetion to the rule) In week 40 the album has spent 35 weeks in the top 50! Besting the 21 weeks THANKFUL, 9 weeks MYDECEMBER and 13 weeks of ALLIEVERWANTED. The album will outlast and spend more weeks in the Top 100 and Top 200 overall as well. Impressive off of 2 singles really.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Aug 1, 2012 14:56:39 GMT -5
I believe she said she would rather watch paint dry than the VMA's, so I don't see it as likely. It would be awesome, though! Let's watch paint dry instead of promoting the best song on my album.... SMH. It's called PROMO, Kelly. And "Duets" sure as hell didn't suffice for that. I'm just getting more and more pissed by the day for this song.
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Post by spoonabdul3 on Aug 1, 2012 15:02:11 GMT -5
not every single has to be a big hit.....Dark Side seems to be heading to the top on HAC. HAC is her core format now, i think so at least. if they switch to another single for CHR, then it would probably piss/confuse HAC. i say regardless of CHR performance, they shouldn't release any other single until this peaks on HAC
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Post by Ace on Aug 1, 2012 15:19:49 GMT -5
I think the next week or so will be critical here - and I know people say that like once a week - but with it hitting top 10 on Hot AC, it should pick up on AC, and as has been stated by many, that's when it should really blow up on Pop. It has certainly been full of surprises thus far though, so who knows.
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Post by bb on Aug 1, 2012 16:13:18 GMT -5
I believe she said she would rather watch paint dry than the VMA's, so I don't see it as likely. It would be awesome, though! Let's watch paint dry instead of promoting the best song on my album.... SMH. It's called PROMO, Kelly. And "Duets" sure as hell didn't suffice for that. I'm just getting more and more pissed by the day for this song. I agree, but seeing as there isn't an opportunity that garners a big enough audience AND Kelly is on tour and doing back-to-back nights and trying to preserve her voice AND simultaneously losing what intense fervor she might have had for the success of her individual singles while she gets more and more devoted to her personal life, I don't think it's likely. But, "Dark Side" is a great song, and I'm looking forward to seeing the success it can find on its own on CHR. I still think it can chug on to closer to the top ten.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 1, 2012 16:46:32 GMT -5
I think Kelly is incredibly dumb if she's truly against using the VMAs, or any show for that matter, as means of promotion.
Why make generic pop music if your intention isn't for it to be successful?
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Post by bb on Aug 1, 2012 17:03:30 GMT -5
I think Kelly is incredibly dumb if she's truly against using the VMAs, or any show for that matter, as means of promotion. Why make generic pop music if your intention isn't for it to be successful? Well I highly doubt she's "truly against" it-- I just think she'd rather not go out of her way for it. Of course this is just speculation, but from her disdainful comments and her passed up opportunities ("Mr. Know It All", probably in '09 despite attending?) as well as her general dislike of pop music events, I'm guessing it's not her first priority-- if one at all. And I'm SURE she would like her music to be successful and reach a wider audience than it originally did but she has said many times that she is more interested in other aspects of her life-- touring, writing, recording, as well as her newfound relationship-- than promotion on award shows with her pop star peers. Of course I would LOVE to see her on the VMA's doing "Dark Side" or "Stronger", but I'm not confident it's a platform she is intent on exploiting. It's a shame, but there are other avenues of promotion once the normal TV schedule starts up in the fall and I'm fairly certain she'll use them.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 1, 2012 17:10:35 GMT -5
What "passed up" opportunities though? We don't even know if the VMAs offered her a performance slot to "pass up".
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Post by bb on Aug 1, 2012 17:18:20 GMT -5
What "passed up" opportunities though? We don't even know if the VMAs offered her a performance slot to "pass up". That's true. I don't know, I just suspected that an artist with some solid hype behind the release of their first single literally within the week would have been allowed a performance, especially one of Kelly's caliber and consistency. But I could be wrong. It sounds like Kelly had no intentions anyway. Either way I would be pleasantly surprised to see her name as a performer this time around.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 1, 2012 17:31:00 GMT -5
lmao @ people complaining about Kelly being anti promo. Girl has been everywhere this era--she's done international promo, magazine covers, radio interviews, several award shows, the Superbowl, spots on two television shows. We were never even supposed to hear her VMA comments, and if we hadn't, we would never know. Which goes to show how little we know about how she (or any musician, pop star or otherwise) might feel about a lot of aspects of her career.
Bottom line is she's touring right now, and there's no reason why that wouldn't be hers or anyone else's priority. Keep her voice in shape for the people paying money to see her live. If she's offered a slot to perform, she may decide to do it, or she may decide to rest her voice, or maybe the people surrounding the VMAs suck and she just hates doing that one show.
I just don't see how people can at all complain about her enthusiasm and willingness to do promo this era.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 1, 2012 17:40:46 GMT -5
lmao @ people complaining about Kelly being anti promo. Girl has been everywhere this era--she's done international promo, magazine covers, radio interviews, several award shows, the Superbowl, spots on two television shows. We were never even supposed to hear her VMA comments, and if we hadn't, we would never know. Which goes to show how little we know about how she (or any musician, pop star or otherwise) might feel about a lot of aspects of her career. Bottom line is she's touring right now, and there's no reason why that wouldn't be hers or anyone else's priority. Keep her voice in shape for the people paying money to see her live. If she's offered a slot to perform, she may decide to do it, or she may decide to rest her voice, or maybe the people surrounding the VMAs suck and she just hates doing that one show. I just don't see how people can at all complain about her enthusiasm and willingness to do promo this era. For the record, I wasn't complaining. I just think in all this specualtion about what Kelly wants to do, we should remember that we don't know s**t. You're absolutely right when you say we weren't supposed to hear the VMA comment. For all we know, she has no respect for the AMAs or Grammys either, yet she's still performed on them. To assume she'd pass up on the VMAs because of that is pretty" " if she doesn't wanna do the VMAs because she can't or is touring fine. But if the reason is ever because "MTV doesn't even play music videos anymore" that 's incredibly stupid. It's not like her music videos have been good this era for that to bother her anyway. In other words, i'd find it funny if she continues complaining about how predictable and lame the industry (pop world) is when she contributes to it.
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Post by bb on Aug 1, 2012 17:44:56 GMT -5
Yeah I don't know if she passed up on it. Just seems to me personally that seeing as she has had some pretty negative comments about pop music award shows, she wouldn't go unless she had a strong inclination to. Who knows, maybe she is planning on showing up.
But yes, I love the promotion this era-- up until a few weeks ago she was all over the place; now I just want a little push for "Dark Side" within the next few months and I hope it is possible.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 1, 2012 18:00:33 GMT -5
Her attitude on music videos is really jaded and wrong, absolutely. I'd argue that with the Internet and YouTube, videos can have a bigger impact now than ever before.
I just don't want her potential absence at the VMAs this year to somehow become the ignition for a bunch of pretty baseless claims that she doesn't care about this song, doesn't care to go through promo, or that she would never do the VMAs again. That's the crazy Kelly stan/hater talk of the 06-10 variety, and I think we can leave that in the past.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 1, 2012 19:01:25 GMT -5
Tons of people have mocked and bashed the VMAs and still performed at them. I don't think that necessarily means she will NEVER perform at one again. I do think people are correct that she probably won't for this one. Yeah I would love for her to step it up a notch with music videos. Not sure if that will ever happen though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2012 21:04:28 GMT -5
Kelly just said that last year when she was asked if she watched the VMA's the night before I'm pretty sure, and said how its gotten so different or something like that. She never said that she would refuse to perform there.
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Post by Peterawr on Aug 1, 2012 22:05:38 GMT -5
lmao @ people complaining about Kelly being anti promo. Girl has been everywhere this era--she's done international promo, magazine covers, radio interviews, several award shows, the Superbowl, spots on two television shows. We were never even supposed to hear her VMA comments, and if we hadn't, we would never know. Which goes to show how little we know about how she (or any musician, pop star or otherwise) might feel about a lot of aspects of her career. Bottom line is she's touring right now, and there's no reason why that wouldn't be hers or anyone else's priority. Keep her voice in shape for the people paying money to see her live. If she's offered a slot to perform, she may decide to do it, or she may decide to rest her voice, or maybe the people surrounding the VMAs suck and she just hates doing that one show. I just don't see how people can at all complain about her enthusiasm and willingness to do promo this era. I love you.
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Post by Lozzy on Aug 2, 2012 5:31:01 GMT -5
22 21 KELLY CLARKSON Dark Side 2792 2571 221 16.034
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Post by hitseeker. on Aug 2, 2012 7:10:16 GMT -5
#49 this week on the Hot100, up from #54 last week :)
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Post by NeRD on Aug 2, 2012 7:20:49 GMT -5
M5 is coming up really fast. Looks like they'll pass her before Sunday.
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Post by M1tchD on Aug 2, 2012 16:28:47 GMT -5
This has REALLY grown on me now. I love the chorus!
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Post by neally on Aug 2, 2012 20:41:40 GMT -5
'Dark Side' moves from #4 to #3 on the Billboard Dance/Club Play Songs Chart for this week.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 3, 2012 5:15:34 GMT -5
21 21 KELLY CLARKSON Dark Side 2819 2619 200 16.363
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Post by KMJ1 on Aug 3, 2012 10:58:06 GMT -5
Im amazed at how this just barely stays afloat day after day. Radio doesnt know what the hell to do w/ it lol. Its making MKIA look like a rocket headed into orbit.
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Post by james on Aug 3, 2012 16:59:11 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson, Dark Side (47,000, +15%, 242,000)
Worst comes to worst, we should be looking at a Gold single :)
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Post by G-Reg on Aug 3, 2012 23:25:54 GMT -5
Perhaps radio has made up its mind and decided that this will be a moderate hit. Put it in mid-rotation for a few weeks, get some airplay, then drop it. And as the poster above me said, at the very WORST we'll have a gold single. It's not the best, but it's not awful either. Having a top 20 pop/top 10(5+?) Hot AC is ok for a third single. :)
Then again, it could continue to grow and hit top 10 like Already Gone. This era is still miiiiles(kilometers) above the last one, in terms of material and commercial success. So I'm not complaining.
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Post by Grün on Aug 4, 2012 1:40:04 GMT -5
Or we could have had a successful single I Forgive You or Let Me Down and then cap the era off with Hello or You Love Me
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 4, 2012 5:18:04 GMT -5
20 22 KELLY CLARKSON Dark Side 2877 2647 230 16.825
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Post by Lozzy on Aug 4, 2012 5:18:07 GMT -5
20 22 KELLY CLARKSON Dark Side 2877 2647 230 16.825
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Post by David on Aug 4, 2012 7:09:12 GMT -5
Great update!
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 4, 2012 7:21:55 GMT -5
It's down another spot, correct?
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