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Post by Kid Pulse on Sept 12, 2007 16:57:17 GMT -5
If that's the real reason, then the PDs are on drugs because Sean Kingston's "Beautiful Girls" had MUCH more direct suicide lyrics than this, and it peaked in the 30s. In Sean Kingston's defence, a number of stations did play the edited version where they have him "in denial" rather than "suicidal." ^ Yeah, I guess that edit was especially popular with Hot ACs. I think that "Me Love" is a way better song.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Sept 13, 2007 12:02:57 GMT -5
Is it moreso about it than 'Jumper' by Third Eye Blind? Nah I don't think so. The only difference between the two songs is that "Never Too Late" sounds more like a demented love song and is somewhat "sweet" sounding instead of a more panic sound in "Jumper" (and that probably makes no sense haha)
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Post by atlantaboy on Sept 13, 2007 14:53:15 GMT -5
Is it moreso about it than 'Jumper' by Third Eye Blind? Nah I don't think so. The only difference between the two songs is that "Never Too Late" sounds more like a demented love song and is somewhat "sweet" sounding instead of a more panic sound in "Jumper" (and that probably makes no sense haha) Yeah "Jumper" was about a guy tryin to stop his friend from committing suicide, but somehow the tone was light and jovial (always sort of a weird combination I thought) - This is a song about the exact same subject, but it's more dark and serious, like "Everybody Hurts" by R. E. M. and "Last Resort" by Papa Roach - in any case, it's def. been done at least 3 times before, not counting "Close My Eyes Forever" and "Don't Close Your Eyes" from '88-'89
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Sept 13, 2007 20:49:58 GMT -5
Nah I don't think so. The only difference between the two songs is that "Never Too Late" sounds more like a demented love song and is somewhat "sweet" sounding instead of a more panic sound in "Jumper" (and that probably makes no sense haha) Yeah "Jumper" was about a guy tryin to stop his friend from committing suicide, but somehow the tone was light and jovial (always sort of a weird combination I thought) - This is a song about the exact same subject, but it's more dark and serious, like "Everybody Hurts" by R. E. M. and "Last Resort" by Papa Roach - in any case, it's def. been done at least 3 times before, not counting "Close My Eyes Forever" and "Don't Close Your Eyes" from '88-'89 What do you mean by its been done before?
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Post by Kid Pulse on Sept 13, 2007 20:53:25 GMT -5
I think he means that the concept of the song is nothing new (talking somebody out of killing themself).
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Sept 13, 2007 23:05:10 GMT -5
Oh that makes sense then LOL
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Post by Kid Pulse on Sept 14, 2007 7:24:13 GMT -5
Yeah, but song is so good it deserves to be a big hit. :)
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Post by beejus on Sept 14, 2007 12:00:19 GMT -5
Yeah, but song is so good it deserves to be a big hit. :) I thought I posted in this thread before... hmm. I just added it into rotation to my station... response has been instant. My listeners love it... even though it's rockin. I might break the No-Midday daypart on it soon.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Sept 14, 2007 13:03:25 GMT -5
Yeah, but song is so good it deserves to be a big hit. :) I thought I posted in this thread before... hmm. I just added it into rotation to my station... response has been instant. My listeners love it... even though it's rockin. I might break the No-Midday daypart on it soon. You need to be the PD for Star 94.1 in San Diego. I know I said that before but I don't remember which thread that was in haha
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Post by beejus on Sept 14, 2007 18:57:09 GMT -5
I thought I posted in this thread before... hmm. I just added it into rotation to my station... response has been instant. My listeners love it... even though it's rockin. I might break the No-Midday daypart on it soon. You need to be the PD for Star 94.1 in San Diego. I know I said that before but I don't remember which thread that was in haha LOL. You did mention that. I looked at their playlist on Mediabase. One word. Stale. They're still spinning How To Save a Life and If Everyone Cared 40+ times a week. Plus it looks like they had no new adds this week. And there's no reason for Natasha Bedingfield's "Unwritten" to be played twice a day. But that being said... Star looks like they are locked in on all sides. You have two (basically three) Alt stations (Sophie's playlist looks pretty cool if you like both Hot AC and Alt). You've got a Triple A, an Adult Hits, a Mainstream CHR... just looking at the market, there doesn't seem to be much that Star can do. My market's competition consists of a shitload of Country stations, a great sounding CHR with a strong signal, an Adult Hits station that sounds like crap but is doing pretty good, and a mainstream AC station that I'm beating up on. There is no Alt station, no station that focuses on 80s and 90s like I do. I have the freedom to open up and rake in the listeners... and that's what I've done. OK. I'll stop stroking my ego now :)
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Post by atlantaboy on Sept 14, 2007 19:30:28 GMT -5
I thought I posted in this thread before... hmm. I just added it into rotation to my station... response has been instant. My listeners love it... even though it's rockin. I might break the No-Midday daypart on it soon. You need to be the PD for Star 94.1 in San Diego. I know I said that before but I don't remember which thread that was in haha Yeah with two Alternative and one "Sophie" (Modern AC I think) station in your market I don't think Star 94.1 San Diego's gonna be playin "Never Too Late"
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Sept 15, 2007 0:15:08 GMT -5
You need to be the PD for Star 94.1 in San Diego. I know I said that before but I don't remember which thread that was in haha LOL. You did mention that. I looked at their playlist on Mediabase. One word. Stale. They're still spinning How To Save a Life and If Everyone Cared 40+ times a week. Plus it looks like they had no new adds this week. And there's no reason for Natasha Bedingfield's "Unwritten" to be played twice a day. But that being said... Star looks like they are locked in on all sides. You have two (basically three) Alt stations (Sophie's playlist looks pretty cool if you like both Hot AC and Alt). You've got a Triple A, an Adult Hits, a Mainstream CHR... just looking at the market, there doesn't seem to be much that Star can do. My market's competition consists of a s**tload of Country stations, a great sounding CHR with a strong signal, an Adult Hits station that sounds like crap but is doing pretty good, and a mainstream AC station that I'm beating up on. There is no Alt station, no station that focuses on 80s and 90s like I do. I have the freedom to open up and rake in the listeners... and that's what I've done. OK. I'll stop stroking my ego now :) Yeah, it's a tough market. My suggestion to the PD was play more pop music since the pop station (that he is the PD of as well) leans heavily on rhythmic, and San Diego already has 2 rhythmic stations. Even though there's so many alternative and rhythmic stations, that doesn't mean Star should be stale. I completely agree with you on the amount of spins for those songs. But I guess that's what happens with you have Clear Channel in charge.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Sept 15, 2007 0:20:34 GMT -5
You need to be the PD for Star 94.1 in San Diego. I know I said that before but I don't remember which thread that was in haha Yeah with two Alternative and one "Sophie" (Modern AC I think) station in your market I don't think Star 94.1 San Diego's gonna be playin "Never Too Late" I don't think so either considering they're the most boring station in the US. It's a disgrace that they took the moniker from KFMB which was the best Hot AC station before it changed to Jack 100.7 lol
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Sept 15, 2007 13:02:01 GMT -5
It got a couple of spins again haha
0 189 THREE DAYS GRACE Never Too Late 2006 Jive/Zomba 2 0 2 0.007
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Nov 13, 2007 3:17:07 GMT -5
95 73 THREE DAYS GRACE Never Too Late 2006 Jive/Zomba 49 28 21 0.079
Three stations are playing it now, and the most notable one is KYSR in LA.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Nov 13, 2007 8:36:04 GMT -5
It's not too late, it's never too late.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Dec 1, 2007 21:24:25 GMT -5
Looks like this is finally starting to get some serious traction!!
58 54 THREE DAYS GRACE Never Too Late 2006 Jive/Zomba 154 105 49 0.740
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Dec 2, 2007 15:26:10 GMT -5
I hope that even the non-alternative leaning stations start playing it too.
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Post by atlantaboy on Dec 2, 2007 16:20:51 GMT -5
I hope that even the non-alternative leaning stations start playing it too. Yeah...really don't think that'll happen (unfortunately) - Seems like it'd be better to follow this on CHR
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Post by popmusicaddict on Dec 2, 2007 22:34:54 GMT -5
I hope that even the non-alternative leaning stations start playing it too. Yeah...really don't think that'll happen (unfortunately) - Seems like it'd be better to follow this on CHR Agreed with atlantaboy...surprised its getting that far - but same thing happened on CHR, found life again! Yep the title of the song is spot on lol. Yah play Bubbly then this lol..that kinda drastic combo only works well on CHR IMO.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Dec 3, 2007 12:56:32 GMT -5
I hope that even the non-alternative leaning stations start playing it too. Yeah...really don't think that'll happen (unfortunately) - Seems like it'd be better to follow this on CHR I don't think it will happen either but it would be cool though! haha
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Dec 3, 2007 13:08:53 GMT -5
Yeah...really don't think that'll happen (unfortunately) - Seems like it'd be better to follow this on CHR Agreed with atlantaboy...surprised its getting that far - but same thing happened on CHR, found life again! Yep the title of the song is spot on lol. Yah play Bubbly then this lol..that kinda drastic combo only works well on CHR IMO. Haha, well that would be bad programming IMO. It would sound better a station played "Over You" into this song and then something like Nickelback or Lifehouse lol
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Post by atlantaboy on Dec 3, 2007 15:34:05 GMT -5
Yeah...really don't think that'll happen (unfortunately) - Seems like it'd be better to follow this on CHR Agreed with atlantaboy...surprised its getting that far - but same thing happened on CHR, found life again! Yep the title of the song is spot on lol. Yah play Bubbly then this lol..that kinda drastic combo only works well on CHR IMO. Yeah that does seem like a terrible combination even on CHR lol But CHR can play "The Way I Are" between them and it prob. wouldn't sound that bad IMO Def. agree w/ popmusicaddict that it's surprising this has gotten this far on HAC - don't have access to station "breakdowns" but pretty sure it's bein played pretty heavily on Modern AC's (where it sounds natural) and not at all on most Mix-type HAC's Personally, I think they should classify Modern ACs as CHR (since lots of them rotate their top songs 60+ times a week), and Mix-type HAC's as AC, cause they're really two completely different formats
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Post by Kid Pulse on Dec 11, 2007 8:26:04 GMT -5
It's finally top 40!!!
45 36 THREE DAYS GRACE Never Too Late 2006 Jive/Zomba 260 196 64 0.978
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Dec 12, 2007 2:11:05 GMT -5
That's impressive! It's slowly getting more popular
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Dec 12, 2007 3:54:41 GMT -5
This is crazy. Why must you Americans start enjoying our Canadain rock so long after we do?
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Jan 4, 2008 18:53:26 GMT -5
This is crazy. Why must you Americans start enjoying our Canadain rock so long after we do? Yeah, yeah lol
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jan 5, 2008 3:26:40 GMT -5
Well this peaked on our rock formats quite a few months ago. Three Days Grace has moved on to its next (unofficial) single over there "Riot." It never went for adds though so it's not doing so well. Mid-30's peak I think.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Feb 13, 2008 18:04:31 GMT -5
This song has done well enough to have the video debut on VH1 next week.
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