Kid Pulse
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Post by Kid Pulse on Sept 25, 2007 18:36:51 GMT -5
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 26, 2007 1:18:22 GMT -5
I thought it pretty obvious for over half a year now that Nickelback were going to take a break for a year or so after finishing promoting "All The Right Reasons", as two almost non-stop years of touring at arenas worldwide is going to keep them out of the studio and get them all exhausted, thus I though that claim on their Wikipedia entry that they were planning to go back in the studio to record a new album slated for a November 2007 release was plain bologna from the beginning. The music industry is much different now than it was forty years ago. Back then, there weren't all those rigid regulations and nearly as much commerical pressure regarding tours, thus even established artists were always capable of skipping in and out of the studio to compose new material and release two, even three studio albums per year. But nowadays, the pressure is much more present, and in result the creative process is hampered by the inability to produce new material while touring a present album, unless the artist was somehow able to put together cohesive material at the spur of the moment on the toar bus and such. I don't think we'll be seeing a new Nickelback album until the first to second quarter of 2009. I think the length of their break will be about equal to that of Green Day since wrapping up the "American Idiot" world tour. Sncerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by atlantaboy on Sept 26, 2007 14:28:37 GMT -5
Thought someone said that they were comin out with a new single at the beginning of '08 ???
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Post by Kid Pulse on Sept 26, 2007 17:06:34 GMT -5
^ It was all a rumor I guess. I heard a fall 2007 release.
But do you think Pat Monahan would have a solo career if not for the "break" Train is taking?
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Post by blurple on Sept 26, 2007 17:16:05 GMT -5
^ It was all a rumor I guess. I heard a fall 2007 release. But do you think Pat Monahan would have a solo career if not for the "break" Train is taking? Honestly, no...
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Post by Rumors on Sept 27, 2007 16:14:13 GMT -5
#82 debut on the Billboard 200 for the album. I wonder what the label's expectations for the album are. The song is doing better on HotAC than I thought it would. It will be interesting to see if the song continues to climb the HotAC chart if it will turn into sustained or increased album sales.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Oct 2, 2007 7:38:25 GMT -5
Top 15.
17 15 PAT MONAHAN Her Eyes 2007 Columbia 1465 1315 150 6.901
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 2, 2007 18:12:52 GMT -5
This kinda reminds me of "Meet Virginia"...I think it def. gets better the more you listen to it...except the line about how she liked Michael Jackson until he was "Bad" (IMO really dumb line ) Still think it's too similar to stuff that's already been put out (esp. coming so soon after "Undeniable") to make a significant impact on CHR...but ya never know
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Post by Kid Pulse on Oct 2, 2007 18:20:06 GMT -5
Yeah, both "Meet Virginia" and this describe odd females.
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Post by Rumors on Oct 6, 2007 8:41:10 GMT -5
Well, it doesn't matter what the song is going to do on the HotAC chart. His album is off the Billboard 200 chart after two weeks. To say that I'm shocked is an understandment. I guess it just goes to show you that what Rob Thomas did with his solo album ain't that easy. To come from a primarily HotAC radio driven band and have some solo success isn't anything to sneeze at. Pat can still rebound but he's already got the video on VH1 and has had several TV appearances including The Today Show (I think). Not much more that can be done because Pop will not play him. I'm sure they'll release this to AC but that also won't help much with album sales.
To me Pat has a great classic rock voice but he's totally forgettable. His video makes him look like a quickly approaching 40-something trying to be Robin Thicke. Bad move on Pat's part.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 6, 2007 18:05:13 GMT -5
Well, it doesn't matter what the song is going to do on the HotAC chart. His album is off the Billboard 200 chart after two weeks. To say that I'm shocked is an understandment. I guess it just goes to show you that what Rob Thomas did with his solo album ain't that easy. To come from a primarily HotAC radio driven band and have some solo success isn't anything to sneeze at. Pat can still rebound but he's already got the video on VH1 and has had several TV appearances including The Today Show (I think). Not much more that can be done because Pop will not play him. I'm sure they'll release this to AC but that also won't help much with album sales. To me Pat has a great classic rock voice but he's totally forgettable. His video makes him look like a quickly approaching 40-something trying to be Robin Thicke. Bad move on Pat's part. It's precisely for that reason why I'm still quite surprised "Her Eyes" has made it as far as it has on Hot AC, especially after a commerically disappointing era for Train with "For Me It's You". It is never easy for an artist to achieve additional success outside of a successful band, even if it's a multi-platinum band. I'm not surprised Rob Thomas was successful because, after all, he already proved he could carry a hit on his own with "Smooth" (I believe it was more him than Carlos Santana who made it a hit, considering Santana had about two decades of commerical duds and Thomas' band matchbox twenty had just wrapped up an enormously successful debut era) I also believe should Chad Kroeger choose to pursue a solo route, he'd also be quite successful. But with Pat Monahan, I found it unlikely he'd strike gold on his own because, firstly, Train's a band that has never gotten much respect both commerically and critically to begin with, and the band has relied on hit singles to stay alive, and secondly, Train is one of those kind of bands where few will know the names of all the band members by heart, and won't even know the name of the lead singer so, on the surface, his voice may be recognizable but beyond that he has nothing else special really working for him on his own. I don't expect Monahan to pick up an RIAA certification with this album. He's got some songs I like on this album, particularly "Pirate On The Run" and "Two Ways To Say Goodbye", but most of the songs, while well-intended, just have "So......what?" written all over them, and nothing on the album strikes me as a breakout smash. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Kid Pulse on Oct 6, 2007 18:23:33 GMT -5
Rob Thomas has a LOT more celebrity status that Pat Monahan, IMO. Rob may not be a regular on E!, VH1, or MTV, but it's not as if he's never seen on there. When is Pat on there? Just about never.
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 7, 2007 12:42:30 GMT -5
Rob Thomas has a LOT more celebrity status that Pat Monahan, IMO. Rob may not be a regular on E!, VH1, or MTV, but it's not as if he's never seen on there. When is Pat on there? Just about never. I think just as important is the fact the Rob Thomas came out with a completely new image and sound when "Lonely No More" broke out as his first solo single... Pat Monahan just came out with a song that IMO sounds like a weaker version of "Meet Virginia"...VH1 is playin it a lot though
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Post by Kid Pulse on Oct 26, 2007 7:27:02 GMT -5
Top 10!! :)
13 10 PAT MONAHAN Her Eyes 2007 Columbia 1840 1707 133 7.978
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Post by Ragin on Oct 26, 2007 10:38:52 GMT -5
I really don't think this is very good. Pat Monahan is very hit and miss with his lyrics, and this is a song where some of them feel very contrived. I guess it's personal preference as I take offense when people say the same about Nickelback's "Rockstar". Train was never my favorite, but I like some of their stuff. This song just seems a little more desparate to me than others.
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Post by MinusName on Oct 27, 2007 10:49:32 GMT -5
I think this song is great! It's my favorite single from Train/Pat Monahan since "Drops of Jupiter." I'm glad that it's made the top 10.
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