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Post by The Party Captain on May 6, 2009 10:28:29 GMT -5
Hey guys. This is 2009. We all know 70s bands, 80s bands like U2, 90s bands like Nirvana and Hootie. I want to know what you all think is the band of the new millenium  |
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Post by jmason on May 6, 2009 12:07:46 GMT -5
Chart wise I would say Nickelback, they've made top 10 on rock, ac,pop and hot ac and had fairly decent album sells as well. Daughtry is doing well, but they haven't been around long enough yet for me to say that they are the band of the new millenium.
But then I feel like Cold Play has a better fan base than the other groups. Their albums have sold millions w/o a major cross over hit. Until Viva La Vida came around. I have to see if there next album produces another cross over hit.
So overall I'm saying Nickelback.
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Post by gin on May 6, 2009 12:48:25 GMT -5
MCR should be on the list. I voted other.
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Post by Minor Scratch on May 6, 2009 15:37:31 GMT -5
Coldplay, Linkin Park, and Nickelback will probably be remembered the most from the 00s. 3 Doors Down, Incubus, The Killers, Daughtry, and All-American Rejects will be probably have some recognition forever.
I don't think Fall Out Boy will be remembered too much at all later on. Even though they had some decent radio hits and critically acclaimed albums, nothing has sunk in the recurrent lists and too many bands regurgitated their sound over the years.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on May 6, 2009 16:19:54 GMT -5
My vote goes to Lifehouse.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 6, 2009 18:53:48 GMT -5
^Yeah esp. in Hot AC, Lifehouse, 3 Doors Down, Matchbox 20/Rob Thomas, and even the Goo Goo Dolls would def. be ahead of Fall Out Boy, Linkin Park, the Killers, or AAR
Lifehouse and 3 Doors Down would even beat Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy, and the Killers on CHR IMO (if u take the whole decade)
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Post by Kai on May 6, 2009 21:56:31 GMT -5
No way you can leave out Rob Thomas/Matchbox 20. Thomas, especially, will be strong all through the decade.
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Post by Minor Scratch on May 6, 2009 21:57:09 GMT -5
I'm wasn't really going by radio format. When we remember bands from the 80s or 90s, we don't really judge who was big at formats or with specific genres. They were just big at the time and their whole careers were embraced after it was all said and done. I'm just predicting who we will remember in general.
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Post by brian515 on May 7, 2009 1:14:37 GMT -5
Coldplay, Linkin Park, Nickelback
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Post by at40forever on May 7, 2009 5:33:55 GMT -5
1) Nickelback
2) Daughtry
3) Coldplay
4) The All-American Rejects
5) Linkin Park
6) The Killers
7) Fall Out Boy
I think that Lifehouse, The Fray, Maroon 5, 3 Doors Down & Matchbox 20 should be there as well
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Post by atlantaboy on May 7, 2009 16:08:44 GMT -5
I'm wasn't really going by radio format. When we remember bands from the 80s or 90s, we don't really judge who was big at formats or with specific genres. They were just big at the time and their whole careers were embraced after it was all said and done. I'm just predicting who we will remember in general. Yeah saw this was in the Hot AC forum so figured people meant biggest Hot AC bands of 2000s - if you go with all formats, IMO list def. changes to Linkin Park, Nickelback, Daughtry, 3 Doors Down, Maroon 5, Fall Out Boy, Evanescence, AAR, Creed, and Lifehouse IMO With just Hot AC IMO add in Matchbox 20/RT and Goo Goo Dolls and take out FOB, Evanescence, Linkin Park, and Creed Can't really see the Killers as one of the biggest bands of the 2000s IMO cause their only big hit cross-format was Mr. Brightside Can't make up my mind about Coldplay cause they have a huge fan-base and huge CD sales but not so many big singles |
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Post by Rumors on May 7, 2009 17:48:13 GMT -5
You know I don't consider getting huge amounts of radio play a true indication of how large a band is. For instance, I think Jason Wade is a terrific person but there's nothing edgy or memorable about the guy. He makes music that isn't offensive and radio programmers are cool with playing his tunes but what has Lifehouse really accomplished with all their radio play? Have they even sold 5 million albums over the course of their career? Don't they play to crowds of 2,000-3,000 with low ticket prices? I'm not really picking on this band. I like them but I just wanted to use them as an illustration that this is not a big band...not a band that will be remembered except by the diehard fans.
So looking at your list, the only groups that I think meet the criteria of having an impact in the 2000s is Coldplay and Nickleback (even though I would personally take Lifehouse over Nickleback any day). I would also add Green Day as an impact band from the 90s and the 2000s. As much as I like Matchbox Twenty I wouldn't put them in this league either. They just don't compare with these groups when it comes to selling albums and ticket sales in the 2000s. Their last tour averaged about 8,000-9,500 people per show. Coldplay and Nickleback probably average 15,000-18,000.
I would also say DMB. They don't get the mainstream radio play but they sell albums and sell tickets. Their impact on music will be much greater than a band like FOB that is falling pretty fast...poor selling last album and not an arena band. I would have put The Killers on a list like this 2 years ago but I'm not so sure now. I think KOL have started to steal their thunder.
Of course, you can certainly be an impact band without selling out arenas and tons of albums but if you can't do that then you have to have some critical approval or lasting indie cred or something going for you. I'm thinking about acts like The White Stripes, Fleet Foxes, or bands like that.
Oh yeah, I would include Linkin Park. They meet the criterial that I would use. Maroon 5...they've had success but I don't think they are an impact band. They had a lot of money behind them on the first album pushing for that much success. Couldn't quite duplicate that success the second time out. Looking for Adam to give a solo career shot next.
Daughtry? To early to tell. Needs to demostrate he can sell large amounts of tickets.
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Post by Rumors on May 7, 2009 17:51:49 GMT -5
Forgot All American Rejects. Probably a reason a forget them. Not an impact band at all. Touring is a problem.
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Post by chase on May 7, 2009 21:18:29 GMT -5
Foo Fighters, Dave Matthews Band, Coldplay.
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Post by ba19 on May 8, 2009 14:56:00 GMT -5
why isn't this locked yet? there's a section specifically for polls elsewhere.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on May 8, 2009 15:51:45 GMT -5
^Yeah esp. in Hot AC, Lifehouse, 3 Doors Down, Matchbox 20/Rob Thomas, and even the Goo Goo Dolls would def. be ahead of Fall Out Boy, Linkin Park, the Killers, or AAR Lifehouse and 3 Doors Down would even beat Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy, and the Killers on CHR IMO (if u take the whole decade) I'm surprised those bands weren't on there. You're right though...I assumed this was for Hot AC artists considering it's in the Hot AC forum haha |
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Post by atlantaboy on May 8, 2009 21:50:31 GMT -5
^Yeah I completely interpreted this as Hot AC bands of the 2000s (based on airplay)...If u use Rumors criteria of bands that attract huge crowds and sell tons of CDs, yeah the whole list changes I think to Coldplay, DMB, Linkin Park, Green Day, and prob. Nickelback...Creed might've been in there I guess if they'd stuck around (although just heard there's a reunion comin)
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Post by The Party Captain on May 11, 2009 10:10:10 GMT -5
My only regret is leaving off 3 Doors Down. Evanescence, MCR, and AAR are not even close to being worthy of a place on the list.
Last I checked, Rob Thomas is not a band, and Matchbox 20 took most of the decade off. Besides their best stuff was in the 90s anyway.
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Post by Rumors on May 11, 2009 17:23:23 GMT -5
why isn't this locked yet? there's a section specifically for polls elsewhere. We're special over here in the HotAC section. We're a small group of posters and can moderate ourselves. ;) |
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Post by atlantaboy on May 11, 2009 20:40:07 GMT -5
My only regret is leaving off 3 Doors Down. Evanescence, MCR, and AAR are not even close to being worthy of a place on the list. Last I checked, Rob Thomas is not a band, and Matchbox 20 took most of the decade off. Besides their best stuff was in the 90s anyway. Wait...thought you did put AAR on the list (I prob. would've also) - thing about M20 though is they were huge in 2000-2001 (seemed like almost everyone had copy of Mad Season)...but yeah guess the rest were big radio hits with not much as sales - still think they have a huge following though, even if it's with slightly older listeners Also just curious how you thought of the Killers (just cause most of their hits peaked pretty low...guessin to a lot of pop/HAC listeners they were almost a one-hit wonder) BTW thanks for the thread...this was def. great idea esp. with all the discussion comparin female pop stars to each other (gets kinda old after a while lol) |
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Post by marv1978 on May 12, 2009 0:42:10 GMT -5
i haft to say Matchbox Twenty is the band of the 00's. They only started to really get big in 98 and then Smooth in 99. So most of the pre 00 is still played today and with Rob's solo stuff and btw read the new billboard issue with him on cover and it shows what he has contributed to radio. They always go platinum and have 3-4 smashes off every cd. Who has as many hits as them since 00. "Bent","If You're Gone","Mad Season","Disease","Unwell","Bright Lights","How Far We've Come" not counting "Last Beautiful Girl and Downfall or the 4 classics from theyre 1st cd and Rob's hits "Lonely No More",This Is How A Heartbreaks,"Ever The Same",Streetcorner Symphony" and Little Wonders and the biggesr rock song of all time on the Billboard Hot 100 "Smooth" and the approaching Top 10 "Her Diamonds". I'd haft to say m20 hands down!
But I think Nickelback,3 Doors Down and Daughtry are all gonna be remembered as tops too...
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Post by The Party Captain on May 12, 2009 10:53:37 GMT -5
To me, The Killers and bands like them are more defining of the music and style of this decade than Matchbox Twenty. I like Matchbox 20, but their music, to me, sounds like a continuation of 90s style.
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Post by Kii on May 12, 2009 11:17:55 GMT -5
I think bands like The Killers or Linkin Park define this decade better than the others listed.
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Post by lumel on May 12, 2009 11:18:11 GMT -5
I'd say Lifehouse.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 12, 2009 15:21:53 GMT -5
Just looked up the CHR stats (sorry that's the only stat site I know URL for)...but assumin CHR kinda mixes up Hot AC and Alternative in terms of bands...here's how I think they would rank radio-wise -
#1 Nickelback - 8 Top 10 tracks, 12 Top 40 tracks
(including Chad Kroeger, 10 Top 10, 14 Top 40)
#2 3 Doors Down - 5 Top 10 tracks, 9 Top 40 tracks
#3 Matchbox Twenty - 3 Top 10 tracks (in the 2000s), 9 Top 40 tracks
(with Rob Thomas, 4 Top 10, 12 Top 40 with another one comin...)
#4 Maroon 5 - 5 Top 10 tracks, 8 Top 40 tracks
#5 Lifehouse - 2 Top 10 tracks, 7 Top 40 tracks
#6 Linkin Park - 3 Top 10 tracks, 6 Top 40 tracks
#7 Daughtry - 3 Top 10 tracks, 5 Top 40 tracks (with another one comin...)
#8 All-American Rejects - 4 Top 10 tracks, 6 Top 40 tracks
#9 Creed - 4 Top 10 tracks
#10 Coldplay - 5 Top 40 tracks
#11 Killers - 1 Top 10 track, 4 Top 40 tracks
#12 Green Day - 2 Top 10 tracks, 3 Top 40 tracks
Including Hot AC would bump up Lifehouse, Daughtry, and Coldplay, and including Triple A would bump up the Killers, but didn't have those stats... :( If you include the Rock Formats, Linkin Park gets way bumped up, and IMO prob. have to consider the Foo Fighters (even just for the 2000s)
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Post by The Party Captain on May 12, 2009 19:33:39 GMT -5
Lifehouse is a GREAT band, but when compared to other bands, the only songs that truly stand out IMO are "Hanging By A Moment" and "You And Me." "Broken" does a little bit.
My problem, when making this poll was choosing 7 bands, out of about 15, for voting. I really just wanted a simple discussion of the topic, and I really expected and embraced the debate of who got left off.
Thanks to all who have posted so far.
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Post by The Party Captain on May 12, 2009 19:34:23 GMT -5
Just looked up the CHR stats (sorry that's the only stat site I know URL for)...but assumin CHR kinda mixes up Hot AC and Alternative in terms of bands...here's how I think they would rank radio-wise - #1 Nickelback - 8 Top 10 tracks, 12 Top 40 tracks (including Chad Kroeger, 10 Top 10, 14 Top 40) #2 3 Doors Down - 5 Top 10 tracks, 9 Top 40 tracks #3 Matchbox Twenty - 3 Top 10 tracks (in the 2000s), 9 Top 40 tracks (with Rob Thomas, 4 Top 10, 12 Top 40 with another one comin...) #4 Maroon 5 - 5 Top 10 tracks, 8 Top 40 tracks #5 Lifehouse - 2 Top 10 tracks, 7 Top 40 tracks #6 Linkin Park - 3 Top 10 tracks, 6 Top 40 tracks #7 Daughtry - 3 Top 10 tracks, 5 Top 40 tracks (with another one comin...) #8 All-American Rejects - 4 Top 10 tracks, 6 Top 40 tracks #9 Creed - 4 Top 10 tracks #10 Coldplay - 5 Top 40 tracks #11 Killers - 1 Top 10 track, 4 Top 40 tracks #12 Green Day - 2 Top 10 tracks, 3 Top 40 tracks Including Hot AC would bump up Lifehouse, Daughtry, and Coldplay, and including Triple A would bump up the Killers, but didn't have those stats... :( If you include the Rock Formats, Linkin Park gets way bumped up, and IMO prob. have to consider the Foo Fighters (even just for the 2000s) Great job with the stats. I wonder what the Hot 100 says. |
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Post by atlantaboy on May 12, 2009 20:28:19 GMT -5
^Thanks man...prob. with Hot 100 stats is the pre-download vs. post-download thing is gonna mess it up - also Hot 100 is gonna have deflated peaks for rock bands, but guess you can still compare cause they'll all be deflated equally lol
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on May 13, 2009 13:08:33 GMT -5
Here are Hot AC Only stats for the groups being discussed here...
#1 Nickelback - 9 Top 10 tracks, 11 Top 40 tracks
(including Chad Kroeger, 12 Top 10, 14 Top 40)
#2 Matchbox Twenty - 8 Top 10 tracks (in the 2000s), 10 Top 40 tracks
(with Rob Thomas, 14 Top 10, 17 Top 40)
#3 Goo Goo Dolls (2000s only) - 7 top 10 tracks, 10 top 40 tracks
#3 3 Doors Down - 7 Top 10 tracks, 10 Top 40 tracks
#5 Maroon 5 - 7 Top 10 tracks, 8 Top 40 tracks
#6 Lifehouse - 5 Top 10 tracks, 9 Top 40 tracks
#7 Daughtry - 5 Top 10 tracks, 6 Top 40 tracks
(add Chris Daughtry's solo entry to get 7 Top 40 track)
#8 Creed - 4 Top 10 tracks, 4 top 40 tracks
#8 Green Day - 4 Top 10 tracks, 4 Top 40 tracks
#10 Coldplay - 3 top 10 tracks, 11 Top 40 tracks
#11 All-American Rejects - 3 Top 10 tracks, 4 Top 40 tracks
#12 Linkin Park - 1 Top 10 tracks, 6 Top 40 tracks
#13 Killers - 0 Top 10 tracks, 5 Top 40 tracks
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Post by atlantaboy on May 13, 2009 16:19:32 GMT -5
^Yeah IMO if ur gonna go by Hot AC than Train def. jumps into the mix (at least 3 Top 10s on Hot AC, and def. 4 More Top 40 - not sure about I Am and Something More - and 1 More Top 10 I think if you count Pat Monahan)
Here are the stats for CHR/HAC Combo chart (including both formats):
NICKELBACK
How You Remind Me #1
Too Bad #25
Someday #1
Feelin' Way Too Damn Good #13
Photograph #1
Savin' Me #2
Far Away #1
If Everyone Cared #2
Rockstar #3
Gotta Be Somebody #1
MATCHBOX/ROB T. (2000s)
Smooth #1
Bent #1
If You're Gone #1
Mad Season #12
Last Beautiful Girl #33
Disease #5
Unwell #1
Bright Lights #6
Downfall #34
Lonely No More #1
This Is How A Heart Breaks #10
Ever The Same #8
Streetcorner Symphony #9
Little Wonders #20
How Far We've Come #6
These Hard Times #19
3 DOORS DOWN
Kryptonite #1
Loser #40
Be Like That #10
When I'm Gone #1
Here Without You #1
Away From The Sun #12
Let Me Go #1
Here By Me #30
It's Not My Time #2
Let Me Be Myself #32
MAROON 5
Harder To Breathe #3
This Love #1
She Will Be Loved #1
Sunday Morning #3
Makes Me Wonder #1
Wake Up Call #3
Won't Go Home Without You #12
If I Never See Your Face Again #25
LIFEHOUSE
Hanging By A Moment #1
Breathing #31
Spin #13
You And Me #1
Blind #23
First Time #4
Whatever It Takes #6
Broken #23
GOO GOO DOLLS/JOHN RZEZNIK (2000s only)
Black Balloon #8
Broadway #6
Here Is Gone #10
Big Machine #24
I'm Still Here (Jim's Theme) #17
Sympathy #24
Give A Little Bit #7
Better Days #9
Stay With You #13
Let Love In #20
Before It's Too Late (Sam And...) #26
DAUGHTRY
It's Not Over #1
Home #1
Over You #1
Feels Like Tonight #2
What About Now #2
COLDPLAY
Yellow #16
Trouble #31
Clocks #10
Speed Of Sound #10
Fix You #39
Talk #21
Viva La Vida #3
Lovers In Japan #38
TRAIN/PAT MONAHAN
Meet Virginia #2
I Am #32
Drops Of Jupiter (Tell Me...) #1
Something More #38
Calling All Angels #7
When I Look To The Sky #17
Ordinary #28
Get To Me #28
Cab #26
Her Eyes #27
CREED:
Higher #1
With Arms Wide Open #1
My Sacrifice #3
One Last Breath #1
ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS:
Swing Swing #9
Dirty Little Secret #4
Move Along #5
It Ends Tonight #5
Gives You Hell #1
LINKIN PARK:
In The End #2
Enth E Nd (Remix) #34
Numb #4
Breaking The Habit #7
What I've Done #11
Shadow Of The Day #5
GREEN DAY (2000s):
Minority #36
Boulevard Of Broken Dreams #1
Holiday #3
Wake Me Up When September Ends #1
KILLERS:
Somebody Told Me #17
Mr. Brightside #4
All These Things That I've Done #40
When You Were Young #10
Read My Mind #34
Human #31
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