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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Oct 17, 2008 12:30:41 GMT -5
It looks like they are getting roughly 70-80 spins on pop, not bad, but an adds date might help. Is that somewhere in the 100's?
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Post by Ragin on Oct 21, 2008 8:02:22 GMT -5
It looks like they are getting roughly 70-80 spins on pop, not bad, but an adds date might help. Is that somewhere in the 100's? Hard to say because that spin total is from the mediabase "quickcut" and so isn't necessarily restricted to the top40 panel. Could be lower than that.
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Post by John77 on Oct 21, 2008 10:42:06 GMT -5
I disagree. For as much radio play has they have had they should have sold millions and millions of albums. By now, they probably have about as much airplay on HotAC as Matchbox Twenty but they aren't anywhere near this band in sales (even considering the slump in sales the past few years). Lifehouse can sell out a House of Blues 2,000-3,000 seats with a ticket price at what $25-30 dollars. So maybe they make $75,000-100,000 a show...probably more like $50,000. Will they ever be a band that will have the demand to sell tickets for $50-100? Highly doubtful. This band will eventually go the way of most HotAC bands. The lead singer is not a star. I can't even think of his name right now. It's Jason Wade. I bet he'll team up with Santana one of these days lol I've met Jason before... he's a good guy and pretty darned well known thanks to their first hit. A collab with Santana would be cool!
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Post by John77 on Oct 21, 2008 10:43:26 GMT -5
Agree with you guys that this NEEDS to go to pop... it's too good not be given a shot there.
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 21, 2008 15:39:43 GMT -5
^Yeah IMO not fair when labels don't send HAC songs to CHR, cause most CHRs won't add a song unless it specifically has gone for adds at CHR
I was hopin the video might give it some more attention...although it is a lot like the Nickelback video for Someday
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Post by PHOBES on Oct 22, 2008 13:27:01 GMT -5
although it is a lot like the Nickelback video for Someday I think I said this earlier, but I think it's more like the "Dare You to Move" and "Bittersweet Symphony" videos.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Oct 22, 2008 13:29:37 GMT -5
Is that somewhere in the 100's? Hard to say because that spin total is from the mediabase "quickcut" and so isn't necessarily restricted to the top40 panel. Could be lower than that. Ah gotcha. How did you find out the spin total anyway?
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Oct 22, 2008 13:32:22 GMT -5
It's Jason Wade. I bet he'll team up with Santana one of these days lol I've met Jason before... he's a good guy and pretty darned well known thanks to their first hit. A collab with Santana would be cool! You got to meet him? That's awesome! He's my favorite song writer. I think Lifehouse would reach #1 on pop if Timbaland helped them out like with OneRepublic...but I don't see that happening any time soon lol
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Post by PHOBES on Oct 25, 2008 14:25:46 GMT -5
Pop: 108 88 LIFEHOUSE Broken Geffen/Interscope - 67 41 26 0.199 0.120 0.079
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 25, 2008 16:34:51 GMT -5
^Do you guys know if this has a CHR adds date...
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Post by PHOBES on Oct 26, 2008 13:15:30 GMT -5
^Do you guys know if this has a CHR adds date... Not that I know of. It's doing fairly well without one, maybe they're seeing how well it'll do before they send it for adds? 104 87 LIFEHOUSE Broken Geffen/Interscope - 76 41 35 0.255
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Post by JCMF3 on Oct 26, 2008 19:49:20 GMT -5
#87 is doing "fairly well"??? Especially when it has been out for like 3 months?
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Post by John77 on Oct 26, 2008 20:04:03 GMT -5
I've met Jason before... he's a good guy and pretty darned well known thanks to their first hit. A collab with Santana would be cool! You got to meet him? That's awesome! He's my favorite song writer. I think Lifehouse would reach #1 on pop if Timbaland helped them out like with OneRepublic...but I don't see that happening any time soon lol Yeah... they were at my local Best Buy in June of '07... they did a 5 song acoustic set and then hung around for like 2 hours afterwards signing autographs, talking to people, etc... it was a good time.
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Post by PHOBES on Oct 26, 2008 23:52:57 GMT -5
#87 is doing "fairly well"??? Especially when it has been out for like 3 months? It's been out for three months on HAC, I thought it was less but i'll go with your number. It's up 17 spots from where it was last week, a fairly nice jump. Most of the pop attention has just started recently, likely due to the fact that vh1 has started playing the video and it's been knocking on the top 5 on their countdown for a couple weeks now. Yeah, it's been out for awhile, but it's still fairly new to the pop crowd.
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Post by Libra on Oct 27, 2008 1:07:22 GMT -5
It's up 17 spots from where it was last week, a fairly nice jump. Most of the pop attention has just started recently, likely due to the fact that vh1 has started playing the video and it's been knocking on the top 5 on their countdown for a couple weeks now. It gained 35 spins this week. When you're down that low, your spin gain carries much more weight than does your position jump.
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Post by PHOBES on Oct 27, 2008 2:55:36 GMT -5
True, but still. It's still going up, your average 3 month old song doesn't do that. Like I said, for pop this is new.
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Post by erzo01 on Oct 29, 2008 20:22:20 GMT -5
This debuts at #95 in Billboard Hot 100!
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Post by John77 on Oct 30, 2008 22:33:45 GMT -5
Pop chart:
97 76 LIFEHOUSE Broken Geffen/Interscope 98 54 44 0.371
Looks like they are seeking adds now at pop as it's now listed under "Cool New Music" at that format now.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Oct 31, 2008 11:41:16 GMT -5
Pop chart: 97 76 LIFEHOUSE Broken Geffen/Interscope 98 54 44 0.371 Looks like they are seeking adds now at pop as it's now listed under "Cool New Music" at that format now. Nice! I hope it takes off there. I'd be happy if the song matched the "succcess" that "First Time" and "Whatever It Takes" had there.
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Post by atlantaboy on Nov 1, 2008 19:44:31 GMT -5
#87 is doing "fairly well"??? Especially when it has been out for like 3 months? It's been out for three months on HAC, I thought it was less but i'll go with your number. It's up 17 spots from where it was last week, a fairly nice jump. Most of the pop attention has just started recently, likely due to the fact that vh1 has started playing the video and it's been knocking on the top 5 on their countdown for a couple weeks now. Yeah, it's been out for awhile, but it's still fairly new to the pop crowd. Yeah - tons of songs spend months on the Hot AC chart before they go for CHR adds and finally catch on...only catch is IMO if it never gets an official adds date a whole lot of CHRs'll ignore it (i. e. this initial pop airplay might be from a select few CHRs in markets w/o HACs, prob. small markets) Hopin it is catchin on though on pop (cause it still hasn't been played anywhere in ATL at all...)
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Post by fran182 on Nov 2, 2008 10:46:45 GMT -5
Peak to date in Hot AC
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Post by Libra on Nov 2, 2008 15:35:33 GMT -5
While it's highly suggestive that "Broken" should end up reaching the Pop chart at some point, the fact that it's up at #7 here is by no means a guarantee that it'll do so. Here's a look at singles that have hit the Top 10 at Hot AC this decade and missed the Pop chart altogether: 2000Sting, "Brand New Day" (#8) Tracy Chapman, "Telling Stories" (#8) 2001None - the only year so far this decade like this. 2002Jack Johnson, "Flake" (#8)* * I could've sworn this at least charted at Pop, but chartboy's site has no entry whatsoever for Jack Johnson.2003Barenaked Ladies, "Another Postcard (Chimps)" (#10) 2004Alanis Morissette, "Everything" (#4) Train, "When I Look to the Sky" (#9) Melissa Etheridge, "Breathe" (#10) 2005Collective Soul, "Better Now" (#8)* Josh Kelley, "Only You" (#8) Train, "Get to Me" (#7) Alanis Morissette, "Crazy" (#9) * "Better Now" was released on an independent label, so there's no way in hell it would've reached the Top 50 at Pop.2006Five For Fighting, "The Riddle" (#7) Jack Johnson, "Upside Down" (#8) INXS, "Pretty Vegas" (#8) Corinne Bailey Rae, "Put Your Records On" (#10) Train, "Cab" (#10) Sheryl Crow & Sting, "Always on Your Side" (#10) 2007John Mayer, "Dreaming With a Broken Heart" (#8) Pat Monahan, "Her Eyes" (#9) Bon Jovi, "(You Want To) Make a Memory" (#8) John Mayer, "Gravity" (#10) Goo Goo Dolls, "Before It's Too Late" (#9) Some honorable mentions: 2000 - "L.A. Song" by Beth Hart spent one week on the Pop chart at #50 in December 1999 and hit #8 at Hot AC in January 2000. 2003 - Two: "Don't Dream It's Over" by Sixpence None the Richer (#49 Vs. #9) and "Why Georgia" by John Mayer (#50 Vs. #8) 2005 - "American Baby" by Dave Matthews Band (#50 Vs. #8) 2007 - "Let Love In" by the Goo Goo Dolls spent one week on the Pop chart at #50 in December 2006 and hit #9 at Hot AC in January 2007. Also, "Little Wonders" spent three weeks on the Pop chart in July (peaking at #47) - and by that point it was reaching the end of its time in the Hot AC Top 10 (peaked at #5) Currently this year, only two songs qualify - "Broken" and Matt Nathanson's "Come on Get Higher", which goes Top 10 this week rising 11-9. #8 seems to be the benchmark peak for Hot AC Top 10s that miss the Pop chart, and Lifehouse has, well, broken that...but if they miss they'd be only the fourth to go higher than #8 and still miss Pop. Incidentally, Matt Nathanson is quite a bit closer to Pop's Top 50 than Lifehouse is, but despite having about 180 more spins than them, his bullet is about the same size as theirs, so I think it's quite likely that Matt will miss. And BTW...since that last update posted a few days ago, Lifehouse has lost 1 spin and their Pop bullet has shrank by half.
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