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Post by jools on Jul 4, 2010 0:29:59 GMT -5
It's HAC, so daily updates don't really tell us all that much. It's not uncommon for songs to completely stall and then a few weeks later they gain spins again. It happens that a song takes 20 to 30 weeks to peak. The bullet is still positive so there's no way to tell where this will end up in the end. I agree Kworb, far too early to start worrying about the future of this song on HAC. Look how long it took for WWFM to climb the HAC charts and that eventually ended up #2. I still don't get how the HAC stations work - don't think I ever will ![:d](http://images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif) This was a poor add week for the Truth, I think it got 2 HAC adds? That was bound to slow momentum a little. A nice week this week and the ball will be well and truly rolling again. Kris works his butt off for radio stations, I have no worry of any of his songs stalling before they have reached their potential, he is building too much good will.
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Post by ZAYN on Jul 4, 2010 8:11:37 GMT -5
27 27 26 KRIS ALLEN The Truth 19/Jive/JLG 2009 965 893 72
+5 spins -10 bullet
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Post by ZAYN on Jul 5, 2010 6:18:08 GMT -5
25 24 25 KRIS ALLEN The Truth 19/Jive/JLG 2009 951 922 29
-14 spins :( :( :( :( -43 bullet :( :( :( :(
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Post by Rumors on Jul 5, 2010 17:11:26 GMT -5
I haven't heard this song yet but it hasn't exploded on the scene yet (HotAC format). Kris needs this to be a strong top 10 hit here. The label went and put Pat on the song to help it's chances I guess. I really don't understand why this was even released so long before the video is even shot. Not the best way to jump start a song or album sales. Maybe they are really holding up the push on this song until the video is ready next month. If that isn't the case, this has really limped out of the gate.
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Post by itto88 on Jul 5, 2010 21:25:55 GMT -5
I haven't heard this song yet but it hasn't exploded on the scene yet (HotAC format). Kris needs this to be a strong top 10 hit here. The label went and put Pat on the song to help it's chances I guess. I really don't understand why this was even released so long before the video is even shot. Not the best way to jump start a song or album sales. Maybe they are really holding up the push on this song until the video is ready next month. If that isn't the case, this has really limped out of the gate. Well, IMO this is classic Jive for you. They are great at promoting first singles but even more notorious for throwing second singles out there and letting them sink or swim on their own--especially those of Idols (e.g. Sparks, Archuleta, Iraheta). Honestly, I don't expect much push from them even once the video is shot. :( My only hope is that radio realizes that this is a song worthy of spinning--especially on HAC--because I don't think Kris is going to get help from the label on this one.
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Post by ZAYN on Jul 6, 2010 10:09:03 GMT -5
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Post by ZAYN on Jul 7, 2010 9:35:01 GMT -5
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Post by ariesrising on Jul 7, 2010 13:31:51 GMT -5
Thanks Float On for bringing great news. Like I mentioned, Kris Allen is the little engine that could. His concert reviews have been great.
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Post by itto88 on Jul 7, 2010 21:08:41 GMT -5
Ah good...much better. :)
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Post by ariesrising on Jul 8, 2010 12:18:47 GMT -5
25 25 24 Up this week KRIS ALLEN The Truth 1028 942 86 3.749 +17 spins ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0270.gif) +15 bullet
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Post by guava on Jul 10, 2010 6:52:07 GMT -5
Yesterday's update:
26 22 KRIS ALLEN The Truth 1052 958 +94 3.868 +2 spots +24 spins +8 bullet +0.119 AI
Today's Update: 25 22 KRIS ALLEN The Truth 1077 960 117 4.002 +25 spins +23 bullet +0.134 AI
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Post by crazychick on Jul 10, 2010 18:47:50 GMT -5
it's chugging along on Hot AC. And he's supposedly filming the music video this coming Wednesday. Figure it will be released a couple of weeks after they shoot it? That should help...
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Post by ariesrising on Jul 10, 2010 22:24:47 GMT -5
I'm happy with the HAC progress.
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Post by ariesrising on Jul 12, 2010 12:59:32 GMT -5
SUNDAY 25 23 KRIS ALLEN The Truth 1094 966 128 4.105 +17 spins +11 bullet +0.103 AI
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25 24 KRIS ALLEN The Truth 1120 951 169 4.291 +26 spins +41 + 0.186
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Post by crazychick on Jul 12, 2010 14:53:38 GMT -5
The Truth has 4 Hot AC adds already today -- 3 of them manual adds from stations that didn't spin the song at all last week -- and 3 of the 4 are in Top 50 markets (the other is Top 75 market), which should help the audience impression
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Post by crazychick on Jul 12, 2010 17:17:32 GMT -5
ended up getting 7 Hot AC adds today (2 automatic) -- pretty good!
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Post by earache on Jul 12, 2010 20:25:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the updates, crazychick. Things are looking good in this format.
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Post by trei1658 on Jul 14, 2010 10:37:44 GMT -5
Kris is shooting his video for The Truth today somewhere in LA. The funny thing is that Train is also shooting a video in San Francisco today. Pat will probably shoot his part of TT separately from Kris.
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Post by ariesrising on Jul 14, 2010 18:38:19 GMT -5
I think the video shoot is tomorrow as tweeted by @pboutte.
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Post by crazychick on Jul 16, 2010 12:08:00 GMT -5
They were supposed to shoot the music video yesterday, but got rained out. The shoot has been rescheduled for Monday 7/19
Meanwhile the song is really stalling on the Hot AC chart right now. It needs something to give it a jolt
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Post by ariesrising on Jul 16, 2010 12:13:54 GMT -5
I think there's a possibility of the video giving the song a jolt.
As I'm reading the charts, it doesn't look like TT is exclusive of stalling.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jul 16, 2010 16:34:51 GMT -5
Brian @ Idol Chatter has updated numbers for us. It just passed 50k Kris Allen, Kris Allen (1,000 for the week/311,000 total) Kris Allen, The Truth (combined total of all versions) (4,000 for the week/54,000 total)
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Post by crazychick on Jul 18, 2010 1:26:25 GMT -5
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Post by trei1658 on Jul 19, 2010 19:10:05 GMT -5
@pboutte @cindyvela both confirmed there was no Kris music video shoot today. @cindyvela knows why but would not tell the reason. @pboutte will keep us updated. They better hurry up since Kris goes back out on the road Wed.
Did anyone else see that Can't Stay Away was posted on Hit Predictor? Don't know what that means.
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Post by ariesrising on Jul 20, 2010 12:15:35 GMT -5
Tweet today for pboutte: @jolene88 Video is moving full force ahead!! Be patient guys. Gonna be special.... Re CSA on HP. Yep I saw it. ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0270.gif)
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jul 20, 2010 22:51:03 GMT -5
I remember commenting that I thought releasing TT would lose money for the label. Well, they've earned a grand total of 54,000 sales x what, maybe 60 cents and nothing from additional album sales. RCA has gotten what, maybe, $30 or $40k out of releasing TT. How much did it cost to release and promote? Did they have to pay Train's crooner to mess up the bridge? I don't know, but at best, RCA made a few grand off releasing the single and they quite possibly lost money, especially if they spend enough to make the video not look cheap and tacky.
I stand by my original claim that RCA may have been financially right to stop singles after LLWD.
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Post by satanicfloret on Jul 21, 2010 11:22:23 GMT -5
^^Erm... Kris is signed to Jive not RCA.
But I agree with the sentiment, they made a huge mistake with TT (and compounded it by adding Pat). They should have gone with BWCU or AWM imo.
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Post by ariesrising on Jul 21, 2010 12:10:46 GMT -5
Tuesday Update:
Rank: 24 (=) Spins: 1189 (+35) Bullet: 79 (+46) Audience: 4.354 (+0.051)
Wednesday Update:
Hot AC Rank: 24 (=) Spins: 1222 (+33) Bullet: 123 (+44) Audience: 4.407 (+0.053)
I think, actually, BWCU and CSA are better choices for singles. To release WAOMF would show lack of faith in Kris' abilities AND show basically that they don't care about Kris Allen, the artist. Hopefully they do by now and realize that he is respected industry wise and doing well. AWM is a popular choice but to me it sounds a little too dated.
But I'm good with Jive releasing that anyway or CSA or BWCU. My favorite choice would be BWCU, but then again LLWD is one of my least favorite songs on the CD (next to SMAYA), and look how big that became. So...maybe I know nothing.
My 2 cents.
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Post by crazychick on Jul 21, 2010 20:54:06 GMT -5
The Truth picked up another Hot AC add today (Wednesday), from a station in San Diego (he is playing 2 shows at Anthology in SD on Saturday)
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Post by ericoco on Jul 23, 2010 3:02:39 GMT -5
Tuesday Update: Rank: 24 (=) Spins: 1189 (+35) Bullet: 79 (+46) Audience: 4.354 (+0.051) Wednesday Update: Hot AC Rank: 24 (=) Spins: 1222 (+33) Bullet: 123 (+44) Audience: 4.407 (+0.053) I think, actually, BWCU and CSA are better choices for singles. To release WAOMF would show lack of faith in Kris' abilities AND show basically that they don't care about Kris Allen, the artist. Hopefully they do by now and realize that he is respected industry wise and doing well. AWM is a popular choice but to me it sounds a little too dated. But I'm good with Jive releasing that anyway or CSA or BWCU. My favorite choice would be BWCU, but then again LLWD is one of my least favorite songs on the CD (next to SMAYA), and look how big that became. So...maybe I know nothing. My 2 cents. At this point in his career, he needs hits to put his name out there so I don't really mind them choosing anything that we can all agree can be a hit even if Kris didn't write on it. As you mentioned, CSA, BWCU and WAOMF are all good but among these three I think WAOMF can hit biggest. I still doubt yet hoping Kris would get a co-write single released this era. The next song on the CD sticker is WAOMF and I think the only reason they didn't release it next was because of the Script connection. Honestly, I think they chose the singles before the album was released unless they changed their mind later by turn of events. I'm just happy that all these three (CSA, BWCU, WAOMF) that may possibly be in contention are very good songs. As for AWM, I don't think it will be in consideration again due to timing.
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