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Post by fran182 on May 10, 2009 8:34:13 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 50 on Mediabase Hot AC:
111 48 FRAY Never Say Never 179 20 159 0.484
30 stations playing.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 10, 2009 9:20:02 GMT -5
^This is def. gonna be a Hot AC-based track IMO but think rise is gonna be slow cause stations are gonna wait til YFM is completely outta their Top 10
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Post by Battle601 on May 10, 2009 11:58:17 GMT -5
I think this has potential but yeah, the longevity of "You Found Me" will most certainly take this one some time.
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on May 10, 2009 20:44:07 GMT -5
It's pretty boring as we get into the summer months. I see it doing well on the more "standard" HotAC stations, though.
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Post by Minor Scratch on May 11, 2009 10:51:02 GMT -5
I think this could potentially hit #1 on Hot AC.
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Post by Gravity. on May 11, 2009 17:53:59 GMT -5
I still don't know what they were thinking going with this as single number two. I like it as an album track, but not a single.
Hopefully it'll at least reach Top 20.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 11, 2009 20:33:48 GMT -5
I still don't know what they were thinking going with this as single number two. I like it as an album track, but not a single. Yeah just don't think there were many other choices...Absolute is too abstract for CHR (and kinda burns IMO) - Enough For Now still stands out for me cause of its storyline, but it's not pop Seems like it might be a similar situation to Coldplay cause they have a lot more AAA material (and some HAC), just not pop |
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Post by fran182 on May 12, 2009 12:59:07 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 40 on Mediabase Hot AC:
97 40 FRAY Never Say Never 259 35 224 0.781
33 stations playing.
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Post by The Party Captain on May 12, 2009 19:43:05 GMT -5
I think The Fray just had their 4th big hit. This song may not be as successful as You Found Me, but I easily see it hitting Top 10 on pop.
In my experience, I have noticed that most people hate Fray songs at first, but the emotion eats at them and the songs grow on them.
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Post by Gravity. on May 12, 2009 21:07:10 GMT -5
I still don't know what they were thinking going with this as single number two. I like it as an album track, but not a single. Yeah just don't think there were many other choices...Absolute is too abstract for CHR (and kinda burns IMO) - Enough For Now still stands out for me cause of its storyline, but it's not pop Seems like it might be a similar situation to Coldplay cause they have a lot more AAA material (and some HAC), just not pop Absolute, Syndicate, and Enough For Now were my faves from the album. I think that Syndicate is the best choice for pop, and Enough For Now is perfect for HAC/AAA. |
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Post by The Party Captain on May 14, 2009 10:06:57 GMT -5
Debuts at 40 on FMQB right behind You Found Me.
19 35 BEN HARPER SHIMMER (Virgin) 258 410
D 36• ZIGGY MARLEY FAMILY (Tuff Gong) 251 187
41 37• DEREK TRUCKS GET (Victor) 248 232
40 38• AIRBORNE TOXIC SOMETIME (Majordomo/Island/IDJMG) 247 234
28 39 FRAY YOU (Epic) 245 319
D 40• FRAY NEVER (Epic) 240 148
38 41 FRANZ FERDINAND NO (Domino) 235 245
42 42• TYRONE WELLS MORE (Universal Republic) 235 228
43 43• BEN LEE WHAT'S (New West) 224 222
50 44• CARBON LEAF MISS (Vanguard) 220 188
D 45• PAOLO NUTINI CANDY
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Post by fran182 on Jun 4, 2009 15:18:31 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 20 on Mediabase Hot AC:
21 20 FRAY Never Say Never 1150 878 272 4.472
87 stations playing.
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Post by fran182 on Jun 8, 2009 16:14:09 GMT -5
Yesterday, it reached top 30 on Mediabase Triple A. Here's today's update:
33 30 FRAY Never Say Never 110 97 13 0.343
15 stations playing.
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 9, 2009 21:38:03 GMT -5
I have to say this one grew on me
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Post by erzo01 on Jun 9, 2009 21:40:55 GMT -5
This is included in the Transformers soundtrack. Might get a big boost in radio 'coz of this.  |
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Post by Gravity. on Jun 10, 2009 17:43:21 GMT -5
This is included in the Transformers soundtrack. Might get a big boost in radio 'coz of this. I'm really surprised that it's on the Transformer's Soundtrack. It seems kind of out of place along side the other songs. I don't mind though, this song has grown on me immensely. I think that maybe it was the awesome video for this. |
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 10, 2009 20:11:54 GMT -5
Yeah, this is like any other Fray song for people I know in that they hated it at first but now they love it.
Strange how it made Transformers. The only two I know from the last one were Linkin Park's "What I've Done" and Smashing Pumpkins' "Doomsday Clock." Maybe this song plays while a Transformer dies :(
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Post by erzo01 on Sept 11, 2009 10:07:55 GMT -5
9 10 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 2390 2639 -249 11.351
11 11 FRAY Never Say Never 2347 2417 -70 10.913
12 12 MAT KEARNEY Closer To Love 2062 2131 -69 7.110
15 13 MICHAEL FRANTI & SPEARHEAD Say Hey (I Love You) 1968 1835 133 9.891
This might finally gain its chance to slip inside the Top 10, albeit with a spin loss.
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 11, 2009 12:21:44 GMT -5
9 10 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 2390 2639 -249 11.351 11 11 FRAY Never Say Never 2347 2417 -70 10.913 12 12 MAT KEARNEY Closer To Love 2062 2131 -69 7.110 15 13 MICHAEL FRANTI & SPEARHEAD Say Hey (I Love You) 1968 1835 133 9.891 This might finally gain its chance to slip inside the Top 10, albeit with a spin loss. Observing this single both here and at CHR/Pop has been quite a head-scratcher, unlike any other run I've seen to date. This is that single that sharply underperformed here, while sharply exceeding expectations at CHR/Pop. Perhaps the single-greatest example of an underachiever here that nonetheless became at least a moderately large hit at CHR/Pop. I think we could go on forever discussing and debating why "Never Say Never" struggled here, when I thought there was nothing that broke it away from the standard AC/Hot AC mold, yet found considerable success at Mainstream Top 40..............a format that has been less welcoming to Hot AC-centric artists the latter half of this decade in particular. There are truly no excuses why it underperformed here, I believe, given "You Found Me" was also a huge hit on Mainstream Top 40 and the prospect of recurrentitis surely hasn't deterred "Never Say Never" there. In the end, "Never Say Never" could very well peak higher on the Mainstream Top 40 than on Hot AC.............which is quite a rarity. Sincerely, Noah Eaton |
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Post by erzo01 on Sept 13, 2009 7:01:25 GMT -5
Top 10 in Hot AC (with a bullet! ) 11 10 FRAY Never Say Never 2389 2369 20 11.190 |
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Sept 14, 2009 14:41:03 GMT -5
I'd love for this to make it to at least the top 5. It's one of the best songs of the year.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Sept 19, 2009 12:21:38 GMT -5
11 9 FRAY Never Say Never 2477 2354 123 11.337
It's having such a weird run on here. Are stations finally giving into it?
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Post by Gravity. on Sept 19, 2009 14:40:53 GMT -5
11 9 FRAY Never Say Never 2477 2354 123 11.337 It's having such a weird run on here. Are stations finally giving into it? This song has had the weirdest run here and on CHR. |
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Sept 21, 2009 14:34:16 GMT -5
11 9 FRAY Never Say Never 2477 2354 123 11.337 It's having such a weird run on here. Are stations finally giving into it? This song has had the weirdest run here and on CHR. I don't really follow CHR that much. Has it peaked there yet or not? |
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Post by Gravity. on Sept 21, 2009 16:59:44 GMT -5
This song has had the weirdest run here and on CHR. I don't really follow CHR that much. Has it peaked there yet or not? It's still going over there. |
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Post by erzo01 on Sept 25, 2009 7:09:21 GMT -5
5 7 KATY PERRY Waking Up In Vegas 2581 2945 -364 12.102
8 8 ROB THOMAS Her Diamonds 2576 2800 -224 12.376
9 9 FRAY Never Say Never 2553 2466 87 11.534
This can hit #7 by Sunday and, unless "Please Don't Leave Me" hastens up its spin loss, looks like that'll be its peak position.
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Post by MostInterestingManInTheWorld on Sept 25, 2009 23:46:16 GMT -5
I'll go out on a limb and suggest this will continue to rise ever-so-slowly and reach #5 HAC.
I'm racking my brain to come up with a good example of a "Hot AC song to do better in the CHR format than here". Mostly the songs I can think of fall into the following:
1) Qualifying songs that BARELY did better CHR (i.e. Since U Been Gone)
2) Acts that were formerly more CHR or Alt-centric (i.e. Alanis)
3) Occasional songs that fit AC and CHR well, but not so much HAC (This is a weird group of songs... and I'm trying to think of a good one as I type - sometimes an urban artist will manage those two while being shunned at HAC).
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Post by Gravity. on Sept 26, 2009 9:21:44 GMT -5
I think that it's finally peaking on CHR. :(
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Post by atlantaboy on Sept 27, 2009 20:39:08 GMT -5
9 10 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 2390 2639 -249 11.351 11 11 FRAY Never Say Never 2347 2417 -70 10.913 12 12 MAT KEARNEY Closer To Love 2062 2131 -69 7.110 15 13 MICHAEL FRANTI & SPEARHEAD Say Hey (I Love You) 1968 1835 133 9.891 This might finally gain its chance to slip inside the Top 10, albeit with a spin loss. Observing this single both here and at CHR/Pop has been quite a head-scratcher, unlike any other run I've seen to date. This is that single that sharply underperformed here, while sharply exceeding expectations at CHR/Pop. Perhaps the single-greatest example of an underachiever here that nonetheless became at least a moderately large hit at CHR/Pop. I think we could go on forever discussing and debating why "Never Say Never" struggled here, when I thought there was nothing that broke it away from the standard AC/Hot AC mold, yet found considerable success at Mainstream Top 40 Yeah I almost think this has gotten better callout with younger listeners - the Don't Let Me Go thing (over and over) has even isolated a lot of Fray fans (I think), just cause it sounds so pop |
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Post by The Party Captain on Sept 28, 2009 14:57:17 GMT -5
Observing this single both here and at CHR/Pop has been quite a head-scratcher, unlike any other run I've seen to date. This is that single that sharply underperformed here, while sharply exceeding expectations at CHR/Pop. Perhaps the single-greatest example of an underachiever here that nonetheless became at least a moderately large hit at CHR/Pop. I think we could go on forever discussing and debating why "Never Say Never" struggled here, when I thought there was nothing that broke it away from the standard AC/Hot AC mold, yet found considerable success at Mainstream Top 40 Yeah I almost think this has gotten better callout with younger listeners - the Don't Let Me Go thing (over and over) has even isolated a lot of Fray fans (I think), just cause it sounds so pop I always thought it was the hardcore Fray fans who were isolated from pop. |
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