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Post by Adam (UTR) on Jul 11, 2010 22:44:10 GMT -5
Train just sent out this message for a music video casting call:
I'm gonna take the hint and say that "Marry Me" is gonna be the third Hot AC single from Save Me, San Francisco, though we won't hear it on the airwaves for a while with "If It's Love" really picking up now.
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Post by erzo01 on Jul 12, 2010 0:52:46 GMT -5
I kinda like this, although I was hoping they'd release the standout tracks in their album, say "Parachute" or "Brick by Brick".
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 12, 2010 1:07:10 GMT -5
I think the band has been reading my posts on this forum! ;)
This song is admittedly quiet, and doesn't sound like an immediate single..............but then again many hits we remember to this day are torn from this same cloth, and where the song may feel non-commercial musically, it is incredibly accessible emotionally and lyrically speaking.
I really do think this can become a surprise wild card major hit. Moreso than "This Ain't Goodbye", which sounds like the obligatory ballad single on the album, would ever be, in that it just sounds just like I said.................obligatory. Like how you'd expect a ballad to sound like but not resonating to you emotionally.
Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Jul 12, 2010 17:14:02 GMT -5
I'm going to say we're jumping the gun here. Lots of music videos have weddings. Pat Monahan could very well be singing the song while watching the girl he loves marry someone else.
I've been to two high school graduations and at both of them, "This Ain't Goodbye" was played. It's radio-ready, and while "Marry Me" could be a wild-card hit, but it could also be a massive flop. The average listener isn't going to listen to "This Ain't Goodbye" and think it's obligatory. The average listener doesn't even know what that word means.
I say, go with what's sure to continue the momentum.
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Post by marv1978 on Jul 14, 2010 8:35:33 GMT -5
I think someone at the video shoot will know what the 3rd single is definatly, i don't think u could be in a video and not know the song, so we'll see today. "Marry Me" is a beautiful song, but not 3rd single material!!! I hope they are smart and go with the obvious smash "Parachute" :)
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Post by marv1978 on Jul 14, 2010 21:05:46 GMT -5
I think someone at the video shoot will know what the 3rd single is definatly, i don't think u could be in a video and not know the song, so we'll see today. "Marry Me" is a beautiful song, but not 3rd single material!!! I hope they are smart and go with the obvious smash "Parachute" :) well from what i've read on multiple sites, it was filmed in SF and theyre was a Save Me Sf bride...so it looks like SFMS is gonna be the 3rd single and hopefully Parachute as the 4th
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Post by The Party Captain on Jul 15, 2010 21:02:57 GMT -5
What do you mean by "Save Me SF bride?"
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Post by Adam (UTR) on Jul 15, 2010 23:19:28 GMT -5
Aww, man, sorry guys! I was so sure a bride and "Marry Me" matched up perfectly. Ah, well. If someone could move this to the Non-Singles forum, that would be great. Thank you.
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Post by marv1978 on Jul 16, 2010 10:54:01 GMT -5
What do you mean by "Save Me SF bride?" thats what they called the bride in the video on facebook and twitter, the SMSF Bride :)
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Post by marv1978 on Jul 16, 2010 11:00:24 GMT -5
Aww, man, sorry guys! I was so sure a bride and "Marry Me" matched up perfectly. Ah, well. If someone could move this to the Non-Singles forum, that would be great. Thank you. it made sense with the wedding video didn't it lol...
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Post by Adam (UTR) on Sept 16, 2010 12:32:45 GMT -5
Just wanted to bump this back up since it's the next single and I made this about two months ago...
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 16, 2010 12:39:47 GMT -5
Just wanted to bump this back up since it's the next single and I made this about two months ago... I knew it didn't make sense filming a video wedding scene for a track not titled "Marry Me". Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by marv1978 on Sept 16, 2010 18:37:11 GMT -5
Just wanted to bump this back up since it's the next single and I made this about two months ago... I knew it didn't make sense filming a video wedding scene for a track not titled "Marry Me". Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus how did no one at that video shoot spill the beans about the 3rd single until the drummer writes it's the 3rd single on twitter a few days ago? beautiful,beautiful song!!! still not my choice for an obvious smash but sometimes the classics are totally left field so i guess time will tell, hope the streak continues 4 Train,they are very talented and put out an awesome cd with SMSF :)
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Post by The Party Captain on Sept 17, 2010 10:22:46 GMT -5
This could raise Train to the next level of popularity.
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 17, 2010 13:56:54 GMT -5
This could raise Train to the next level of popularity. I think this is going to be a big hit, even though I understand why some are skeptical given it is a sparse-sounding, mellow track. It's the lyrics and Monahan's heart-tugging croon that will win listeners over, much like "You & Me" was a more subdued track but nonetheless succeeded because of its universal appeal. Plus, this is the type of song just like Landon Pigg's "Falling in Love at a Coffee Shop" that could fit hand in glove on any television promo or movie soundtrack without feeling forced, which would give it an immediate shot in the arm as far as visibility is concerned. I dare predict this will be Train's third top-three hit this era on the Adult Top 40, and most likely a second Top Three hit on AC radio as well (I say "most likely" because it's possible "If It's Love" can suddenly shoot up and affect this single's full potential). As far as the Mainstream Top 40 is concerned, it won't be quite as big as "Hey, Soul Sister", but I predict a run similar to that of Howie Day's "Collide"..............a peak around #15 with some strong legs. I also think this song can do the trick in helping "Save Me, San Francisco" eventually find its way to Platinum status............which going Gold itself is an extraordinary achievement for a band that virtually everyone was writing off three years ago. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by someguy on Sept 18, 2010 11:27:49 GMT -5
I think this has the most potential out of all the ballads/slower songs on the album. I'm really not surprised that it's being released as a single as we enter the Fall/Winter season. Hopefully "Save Me, San Fransisco" will be released as the final single for next Spring/Summer. If they do that, then I could see them getting four top 10 hits at the format from this album.
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Post by atlantaboy on Sept 18, 2010 14:01:15 GMT -5
This could raise Train to the next level of popularity. I dare predict this will be Train's third top-three hit this era on the Adult Top 40, and most likely a second Top Three hit on AC radio as well (I say "most likely" because it's possible "If It's Love" can suddenly shoot up and affect this single's full potential). As far as the Mainstream Top 40 is concerned, it won't be quite as big as "Hey, Soul Sister", but I predict a run similar to that of Howie Day's "Collide"..............a peak around #15 with some strong legs. I also think this song can do the trick in helping "Save Me, San Francisco" eventually find its way to Platinum status............which going Gold itself is an extraordinary achievement for a band that virtually everyone was writing off three years ago. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus Wow Train is one of my fav. bands, but IMO that's crazy - this track is the same couple of notes on the guitar over and over without even any percussion or anything else to make it more interesting IMO There's no way this is gonna do anything on CHR - I'm thinking it'll go Top 20 Hot AC, and maybe Top 10/Top 5 Triple A
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Post by The Party Captain on Sept 18, 2010 19:15:44 GMT -5
I think this could be a hit, but at the same time, this could kill their momentum. Top 40 is extremely fickle.
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 18, 2010 22:09:06 GMT -5
I dare predict this will be Train's third top-three hit this era on the Adult Top 40, and most likely a second Top Three hit on AC radio as well (I say "most likely" because it's possible "If It's Love" can suddenly shoot up and affect this single's full potential). As far as the Mainstream Top 40 is concerned, it won't be quite as big as "Hey, Soul Sister", but I predict a run similar to that of Howie Day's "Collide"..............a peak around #15 with some strong legs. I also think this song can do the trick in helping "Save Me, San Francisco" eventually find its way to Platinum status............which going Gold itself is an extraordinary achievement for a band that virtually everyone was writing off three years ago. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus Wow Train is one of my fav. bands, but IMO that's crazy - this track is the same couple of notes on the guitar over and over without even any percussion or anything else to make it more interesting IMO There's no way this is gonna do anything on CHR - I'm thinking it'll go Top 20 Hot AC, and maybe Top 10/Top 5 Triple A That's kind of the point. Monahan's crooning is the driving vessel of the song. It's an open-hearted paean to a loved one he's about to ask to marry, and the sparseness of the track perfectly complements the emotional vulnerability and serene bliss that come hand-in-hand here. I acknowledged earlier on myself that this is not an immediate track musically, and that it's quiet. But often many of the most softest, intimate-sounding tracks turn out to be the larger, more memorable hits, and I think this will follow suit with Lifehouse's "You & Me" and Howie Day's "Collide". Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by atlantaboy on Sept 18, 2010 22:31:46 GMT -5
Wow Train is one of my fav. bands, but IMO that's crazy - this track is the same couple of notes on the guitar over and over without even any percussion or anything else to make it more interesting IMO There's no way this is gonna do anything on CHR - I'm thinking it'll go Top 20 Hot AC, and maybe Top 10/Top 5 Triple A That's kind of the point. Monahan's crooning is the driving vessel of the song. It's an open-hearted paean to a loved one he's about to ask to marry, and the sparseness of the track perfectly complements the emotional vulnerability and serene bliss that come hand-in-hand here. I acknowledged earlier on myself that this is not an immediate track musically, and that it's quiet. But often many of the most softest, intimate-sounding tracks turn out to be the larger, more memorable hits, and I think this will follow suit with Lifehouse's "You & Me" and Howie Day's "Collide". Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus I don't know...You And Me and Collide have drums, keyboards, and lyrics that teen listeners can get into I don't think Triple A will have a prob. with this track, but I think it's gonna run into a lot of trouble even on Hot AC
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Post by Rodze on Sept 19, 2010 21:26:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think there's place for this on HAC, let alone Top 40.
Let's see how much good will HAC radio has for Train, though.
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 19, 2010 23:57:46 GMT -5
That's kind of the point. Monahan's crooning is the driving vessel of the song. It's an open-hearted paean to a loved one he's about to ask to marry, and the sparseness of the track perfectly complements the emotional vulnerability and serene bliss that come hand-in-hand here. I acknowledged earlier on myself that this is not an immediate track musically, and that it's quiet. But often many of the most softest, intimate-sounding tracks turn out to be the larger, more memorable hits, and I think this will follow suit with Lifehouse's "You & Me" and Howie Day's "Collide". Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus I don't know...You And Me and Collide have drums, keyboards, and lyrics that teen listeners can get into I don't think Triple A will have a prob. with this track, but I think it's gonna run into a lot of trouble even on Hot AC This track may be re-mixed anyway, for all we know. On its own, however, I think this can hold its own commercially. It's the emotional directness of this track that lifts it to an accessible radio quality. Gone are the pop cultural references and quirky end rhymes that have peppered the rest of this era thus far, where instead Monahan cuts straight to the truth and relies on heart-to-heart brevity. I can't see how any young listener will hear the couplet "Together can never be close enough for me, feel like I'm close enough to you." without feeling reflective. The track also seems to nod to Landon Pigg's "Falling in Love at a Coffee Shop" through the chorus lyric. It may have never been a huge hit upon its regular release, but it has since become a cult sensation. Unlike Pigg, Train has a lot of commercial muscle to flaunt presently, and that alone is likely enough to push this toward the summit. Sometimes sparseness sells. Sometimes all you need is a breath of earnest emotion to make an impression to the listener. I believe "Marry Me" is a fine example of when this works, whereas more polished ballads/slow songs like Tedder-produced "This Ain't Goodbye" are not nearly as effective because they just sound like ballad-writing-by-the-book with their overreaching, larger-than-life production sound, while the intimacy with the listener slips from the foreground. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Sept 20, 2010 7:08:36 GMT -5
The average listener couldn't tell you what "by-the-book" ballad writing is.
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Post by atlantaboy on Sept 20, 2010 9:34:21 GMT -5
^Yeah - Lisping Hibiscus - I think you're analyzing this track on the level of a Triple A listener (that might also like Falling In Love At A Coffee Shop by Landon Pigg)
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 20, 2010 13:39:26 GMT -5
^Yeah - Lisping Hibiscus - I think you're analyzing this track on the level of a Triple A listener (that might also like Falling In Love At A Coffee Shop by Landon Pigg) Maybe, but Hot AC has seen its share of softly-driving, gentle songs ascend to the top reaches of the chart. I do believe this will be for Train what "Collide" was for Howie Day. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Radical347 on Sept 21, 2010 1:39:29 GMT -5
Not having heard this (and not having very high hopes for it, but that aside) it could do very well as their singles releases from this album fit the upbeat-upbeat-ballad pattern. Plus judging by the title, it sounds like next in succession after "Hey Soul Sister" and "If It's Love"
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Post by atlantaboy on Sept 21, 2010 10:25:18 GMT -5
Not having heard this (and not having very high hopes for it, but that aside) it could do very well as their singles releases from this album fit the upbeat-upbeat-ballad pattern. Sorry but you really need to listen to the track first
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 21, 2010 11:21:28 GMT -5
Not having heard this (and not having very high hopes for it, but that aside) it could do very well as their singles releases from this album fit the upbeat-upbeat-ballad pattern. Plus judging by the title, it sounds like next in succession after "Hey Soul Sister" and "If It's Love" Of course, you could also put a twist on the title chain and say "Hey, Soul Sister! If It's Love............SAVE ME, SAN FRANCISCO!!!" :o Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by marv1978 on Sept 21, 2010 19:16:18 GMT -5
After listening to this over and over, i haft to say..i love it. My wife got me hooked,she adores it, we listen to the itunes mix,so hopefully the radio mix will be more like that. i still want "Parachute" to be a single, maybe 4th?
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 22, 2010 3:14:19 GMT -5
After listening to this over and over, i haft to say..i love it. My wife got me hooked,she adores it, we listen to the itunes mix,so hopefully the radio mix will be more like that. i still want "Parachute" to be a single, maybe 4th? I suppose it'll depend on how well this does whether they'll push a fourth single. I do predict they will if the album is just short of Platinum status by the end of this single's run. "Parachute" would make the most effective single out of the remaining tracks I believe (really, every track on the album besides "Breakfast in Bed" and "You Already Know" without a radio edit would make at least an adequately effective single). It is also their most popular album track on YouTube hits-wise, with many videos uploaded honoring our service(wo)men which use the song as a feature. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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