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Post by Adam (UTR) on Dec 20, 2011 11:21:10 GMT -5
This now has two adds on Hot AC, so it looks like this'll be gaining a bit of ground in January. It's the follow-up to "When We Stand Together", which was the first Nickelback song to miss the top 10 on Hot AC since "Feelin' Way Too Damn Good" back in 2004.
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Post by poprockfever on Dec 20, 2011 13:14:08 GMT -5
This now has two adds on Hot AC, so it looks like this'll be gaining a bit of ground in January. It's the follow-up to "When We Stand Together", which was the first Nickelback song to miss the top 10 on Hot AC since "Feelin' Way Too Damn Good" back in 2004. Love this song!!!! If this misses even the Top 5 on Hot AC somethings very wrong lol, but if this is the hit i feel it is going to be, it will set up "Trying Not To Love You" to be a #1 hit!! crossing fingers lol
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Post by Hook on Dec 20, 2011 14:56:54 GMT -5
It surprises me that "When We Stand Together" missed the Top 10. Are people just sick of Nickelback? That song seemed like an easy HAC Top 10 for them.
I just listened to Lullaby and I have to say, I actually really like it. It wasn't what I was expecting. His voice bothers me a bit, but the lyrics are great.
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Post by HereIsGone on Dec 20, 2011 20:21:28 GMT -5
From what I've heard of the album, Lullaby was the clear stand out. It'll do heaps better than WWST, I think.
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Post by atlantaboy on Dec 20, 2011 20:56:10 GMT -5
I feel like this has a lot more emotion than When We Stand Together, so hopefully that's what people are looking for...
BTW I wonder if the rock formats would play this
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Dec 21, 2011 7:42:25 GMT -5
definitely the most promising song from the album, i hope the best
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Post by Devin on Dec 21, 2011 9:06:44 GMT -5
This would flop big time on rock formats. Hopefully it'll reach #1 on HAC though to make up for "When We Stand Together"'s poor performance.
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Post by coldstar on Dec 21, 2011 12:28:35 GMT -5
At first listen, this song reminds me of "Far Away". So knowing that "Far Away" did well, if I'm right, this song should also do good on HAC chart. I predict a top 10 or maybe a peak at number 6 or 7.
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Post by atlantaboy on Dec 21, 2011 14:06:33 GMT -5
At first listen, this song reminds me of "Far Away". IMO they're polar opposites - talking someone out of suicide vs. simple relationship song
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Post by MostInterestingManInTheWorld on Dec 21, 2011 21:12:53 GMT -5
It surprises me that "When We Stand Together" missed the Top 10. Are people just sick of Nickelback? Yes, and it gets cold in winter. Not to be rude, but is that a serious question? Almost all of their hits have had the same hook.
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Post by dgarcia3377 on Dec 22, 2011 15:57:15 GMT -5
I like Lullaby more than When We Stand Together. I think this song should go top 10 at least.
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 22, 2011 17:25:03 GMT -5
This is their best bet at reversing their recent airplay decline at this format and Mainstream Top 40 (more likely here than the latter).
It's still tough predicting where this will go, regardless. Unless your name is Coldplay, Mumford and Sons or the Foo Fighters..........it has been a brutally nasty year for decidedly rock artists in general.
Still, "Here and Now" had a decent opening north of 200,000 copies sold, which is a much more modest album-to-album drop-off compared to most other rock artists (most have fallen anywhere from 50-67% album to album, whereas this is about a 35% drop-off). Those figures can at least assuage listeners that they know how to hold their own in this unfavorable climate.
Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Dec 22, 2011 20:12:40 GMT -5
^ you mention a critical point the 35% drop-off point, other artists experienced wayyy bigger drop to the first week sales..and generally the total sales..
and honestly i can't believe we can't say for sure that this song will hit #1 on Hot AC, i guess this song is in their top 3 pop songs ever, if that was from ATRR it would have been at least #1 for 5 weeks, and top 10 AT LEAST on POP..anyways, i hope this song will re-start a good run of successful singles
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Post by atlantaboy on Dec 22, 2011 23:11:03 GMT -5
i can't believe we can't say for sure that this song will hit #1 on Hot AC, i guess this song is in their top 3 pop songs ever, if that was from ATRR it would have been at least #1 for 5 weeks I think you can say that about a lot of artists though - if this were 2006, this track would be "fresh", and probably could've hit #1...but it's almost 2012, and songs like this have started to run their course, especially with pop listeners I still think it's a great song, though, and hope it goes Top 10 Hot AC, and I guess Top 30 CHR
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Post by mcbrearty on Dec 24, 2011 19:28:12 GMT -5
I love this but I think "Don't Ever Let It End" is the the secret weapon on this album. It's an upbeat and scarily catchy number.
"Here And Now" has some great songs that could do great things.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Dec 24, 2011 20:25:33 GMT -5
^ i think don't ever let it end will work as the Rockstar/This Afternoon of this album, although it sounds different, and the message of the song is different, it will be released in the end of this era, and it depends from the earlier released single what this could achieve.
i hope the best for them
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Post by The Party Captain on Dec 25, 2011 13:05:05 GMT -5
Hot Shawn Mullins remake!
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Post by esoteric76 on Dec 28, 2011 11:00:03 GMT -5
Hot Shawn Mullins remake! If only!! I wasn't loving WWST, so I'm not at all disappointed that it underperformed. Lullaby is a good choice. I think "Trying Not To Love You" is probably the best choice, it reminds me a lot of Theory of a Deadman's "Not Meant To Be."
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Dec 30, 2011 1:05:50 GMT -5
It surprises me that "When We Stand Together" missed the Top 10. Are people just sick of Nickelback? Not entirely ... but when you write generic music and combine it with lyrics so corny that a midwestern farmer would blush you deserve to flop hard.
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Post by atlantaboy on Dec 30, 2011 9:47:22 GMT -5
It surprises me that "When We Stand Together" missed the Top 10. Are people just sick of Nickelback? Not entirely ... but when you write generic music What about When We Stand Together is "generic"? Especially compared to "It Will Rain" and "Without You"... Posters hear music on a guitar with a male voice, and they call it "generic" - whereas if the same song were recorded with synths and a dance beat, or sung by a female, it would be "innovative" I really think that by "generic", people really mean "it sounds like music my parents listen to"
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Post by mcbrearty on Dec 31, 2011 13:43:04 GMT -5
WWST is far from generic. Lyrically it's been done before but it's actually much more inventive than most of the rock related stuff released to this format this year.
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Post by Grün on Dec 31, 2011 17:18:21 GMT -5
I just dont like Nickelback at all.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Jan 17, 2012 13:46:12 GMT -5
finally top 50 on HAC, doesn't look that strong but i guess it's just the beginning..time will tell
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Post by atlantaboy on Jan 17, 2012 19:15:28 GMT -5
^I know it hasn't gone for adds yet
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 3, 2012 21:33:38 GMT -5
My Hot AC is playing a remix of this - sounds like they added strings to the chorus
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Apr 4, 2012 8:17:14 GMT -5
it's really annoying watching this song under-performing
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Post by Pipa on Apr 4, 2012 9:02:53 GMT -5
it's really annoying watching this song under-performing Not only here, but on every chart it's charting, Canadian or not.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Apr 4, 2012 9:35:46 GMT -5
^exactly
I was referring to its general performance so far, not only on this chart, i'm really wondering if this will get some boost eventually
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Post by Devin on Apr 4, 2012 14:07:26 GMT -5
it's really annoying watching this song under-performing Not only here, but on every chart it's charting, Canadian or not. I don't understand why it isn't on the pop chart here. I hear it on the local pop station (OZFM) all the time. I'm not sure if Mediabase tracks it now, because they did when it was a rock station.
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Post by Rumors on Apr 4, 2012 15:48:25 GMT -5
Nickleback has had their time in the limelight. They've sold millions and millions of albums and made millions and millions of dollars. But like 3DD and Daughtry, I think all but the die-hard fans have moved on from this type of pop/rock. I know I certainly have. I saw the video for this on VH1 on Saturday. The song sounded really dated and the video looked dated. Having said that, their album has really continued to sell well so maybe their tour did big business. I don't know. I did like their first single. It sounded a little different to me. I was surprised that it didn't do better on HotAC and Pop. But with that song not doing well, I'm really not that surprised that this one is struggling.
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