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Post by Mazo on Feb 9, 2015 16:24:49 GMT -5
I don't think she was robbed at all. Beyonce was just like the rest of her albums. Nothing special. The only reason why it's garnered so much attention was due to the way she released it. The material was same ol same. Kinda glad the Grammys didn't rewards her simply because of that. I do find it quite funny that they shaded her album and gave her general awards, but hey she does have 20 like someone else said.
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Post by 14887fan on Feb 9, 2015 17:42:08 GMT -5
This definitely isn't a race issue. Didn't Herbie Hancock win this award just a few years ago? And Daft Punk/Pharrell & Co. won it last year. As Cynthia said, I think it really was just a case of split voting within the two R&B-leaning albums and the two Pop ones. I don't think she was robbed at all. Beyonce was just like the rest of her albums. Nothing special. The only reason why it's garnered so much attention was due to the way she released it. The material was same ol same. Kinda glad the Grammys didn't rewards her simply because of that. Nah. |
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Post by adamalterlago on Feb 9, 2015 18:47:30 GMT -5
I hate when people cry racism over these types of things but its hard not to when seeing things like this happen. Beyoncé has 20 Grammy's. Besides the top awards for Crazy In Love, they are all urban leaning awards primarily. I'm just saying, if Taylor Swift can win an Album Of The Year for Fearless, Beyonce certainly should/deserves to. |
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Post by adamalterlago on Feb 9, 2015 18:48:46 GMT -5
The race thing , from what I'm seeing, is pertaining to being snubbed in the AOTY catagory. Exactly. I'm not saying the Academy is necessarily "racist'. I'm just saying its hard to not consider with this top honor sometimes. |
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Post by Kishi KCM on Feb 9, 2015 18:57:47 GMT -5
She wins three awards and people still complain?
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Post by Mic Technique on Feb 9, 2015 19:18:47 GMT -5
Besides the top awards for Crazy In Love, they are all urban leaning awards primarily. I'm just saying, if Taylor Swift can win an Album Of The Year for Fearless, Beyonce certainly should/deserves to. This is hairsplitting now. Most if not all multiple Grammy-winners are recipients because of the genre-based categories. What's more is POC have won AOTY five times out of ten the last decade; four out of ten for the 1990's. Stevie Wonder himself is tied for most AOTY wins (3). |
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Post by adamalterlago on Feb 9, 2015 19:33:03 GMT -5
Besides the top awards for Crazy In Love, they are all urban leaning awards primarily. I'm just saying, if Taylor Swift can win an Album Of The Year for Fearless, Beyonce certainly should/deserves to. This is hairsplitting now. Most if not all multiple Grammy-winners are recipients because of the genre-based categories. What's more is POC have won AOTY five times out of ten the last decade; four out of ten for the 1990's. Stevie Wonder himself is tied for most AOTY wins (3). Regardless, this album was incredibly impactful and a monumental moment in music in the past couple of years. Its insane to me that it lost out. |
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Post by Mic Technique on Feb 9, 2015 19:38:04 GMT -5
This is hairsplitting now. Most if not all multiple Grammy-winners are recipients because of the genre-based categories. What's more is POC have won AOTY five times out of ten the last decade; four out of ten for the 1990's. Stevie Wonder himself is tied for most AOTY wins (3). Regardless, this album was incredibly impactful and a monumental moment in music in the past couple of years. Its insane to me that it lost out. Frankly, this crusty institution shouldn't matter to anyone in 2015 but more "monumental," better-selling albums have lost out; hell, plenty weren't even nominated to begin with. Don't lose any sleep over this. |
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Post by wavey. on Feb 9, 2015 19:45:28 GMT -5
I'm sure Yonce isn't losing none.
Changed the game when that digital dropped
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Post by KissMyAxe on Feb 9, 2015 20:31:33 GMT -5
I literally screamed at my TV last night when Beyoncé was robbed the Album of the Year award at the Grammys, i mean are they deaf at the stupid Academy? how can't they acknowledge that Beyoncé album is easily the best in 2014?
shame on them :(
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Post by KissMyAxe on Feb 9, 2015 20:32:41 GMT -5
She wins three awards and people still complain? I'm pretty sure you will tell me that a Grammy is a Grammy but i don't think that a Grammy for Album/Song/Record of the Year is the same as a Grammy for Best Surround Album, i mean come on !!! |
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 9, 2015 21:38:32 GMT -5
I literally screamed at my TV last night when Beyoncé was robbed the Album of the Year award at the Grammys, i mean are they deaf at the stupid Academy? how can't they acknowledge that Beyoncé album is easily the best in 2014? shame on them :( You can't really knock somebody that wrote, produced, arranged all orchestral pieces and played over 10 different instruments for winning over Beyonce though. |
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Post by The Upper Hand on Feb 9, 2015 22:03:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 23:13:02 GMT -5
She wins three awards and people still complain? I'm pretty sure you will tell me that a Grammy is a Grammy but i don't think that a Grammy for Album/Song/Record of the Year is the same as a Grammy for Best Surround Album, i mean come on !!! They all mean jack shit. |
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Post by Kishi KCM on Feb 10, 2015 0:42:36 GMT -5
She wins three awards and people still complain? I'm pretty sure you will tell me that a Grammy is a Grammy but i don't think that a Grammy for Album/Song/Record of the Year is the same as a Grammy for Best Surround Album, i mean come on !!! 3 Grammys are better than none. She now has 20+, I don't see what the fuss is about. And Kanye is a fool. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 1:40:44 GMT -5
This definitely isn't a race issue. Didn't Herbie Hancock win this award just a few years ago? And Daft Punk/Pharrell & Co. won it last year. As Cynthia said, I think it really was just a case of split voting within the two R&B-leaning albums and the two Pop ones. Time flies - Herbie won 7 years ago (Amy Winehouse upset). So not quite a few years anymore. I still stand by my belief that votes were split. But I would add that the general category thing has always been a problem of genre bias more than race bias, although that disproportionately affects one race more than any other. - Only one full hip-hop album has ever won AOTY (Outkast in 2004), and the last time an album with contemporary r&b on it won was 1999 (Lauryn Hill, arguably as much hip-hop as it was r&b). In between that were Herbie and a posthumous Ray Charles in 2005; black, but not contemporary (and by Grammy standards neither was classified as r&b). In fact, the past few times an r&b album has seemed to be a strong favorite to win, it was up against at least one other r&b or hip-hop album, thus increasing the chance of vote splitting. See 2005 (Diary of Alicia Keys favored, but up against Confessions and The Dropout) and 2006 (both Emancipation of Mimi and Late Registration were popular bets). In retrospect it's actually shocking that Outkast pulled off the win, since they were up against Missy's Under Construction. - SOTY is very pop-leaning, with only three r&b artists winning since 2000 ("Fallin,'" "Dance With My Father," "Single Ladies"). One might even argue that no r&b songs won SOTY in the 90s - the closest we get are "Unforgettable" and "A Whole New World," both of which could be considered more AC more than r&b. Even if considered r&b, neither song would have been viewed as contemporary r&b at the time. - ROTY was a LOT worse than even I initially recalled: you have to go all the way back to "I Will Always Love You" for any r&b song. Black people did win after that though...Seal, Ray Charles again, Pharrell and Nile Rodgers when "Get Lucky" won...um, yeah. That's it. I keep rechecking this list to make sure I didn't miss one. Aaaand I didn't bother dipping back into the 80s because if you have to reach 30 years back to prove a point then you've already lost. I don't think the Grammys are hellbent on not recognizing black people, and not every nominated r&b or hip-hop album is deserving of taking the whole enchilada. It's also not voters' fault if all the great r&b/hip-hop contenders come out in clusters instead of conveniently spaced out from each other. But to deny that there is a pattern would be inaccurate. And while people will call call Kanye a fool - and that, he is - you can't tell me that winning 21 Grammys and not ONE of them being a general category win would not sting you a bit, too. Saying a Grammy is a Grammy is kind of like telling a pageant contestant who keeps getting Miss Congeniality or Prettiest Smile that a trophy is a trophy...she did not enter all those pageants just to get another keepsake for being nice and having straight teeth. She wants the crown. Harder to feel the sting specifically for Bey since she has a SOTY, at least, but for r&b as a whole the loss kinda blows. Is also business as usual, but still blows. |
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Post by SHOOTER on Feb 10, 2015 1:50:57 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Beck having won if I thought he had the superior album but that just boils down to personal tastes. I'm still a Beck fan but MP did nothing for me.
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Post by syrus on Feb 10, 2015 6:11:28 GMT -5
Kanye thought it was okay to disrespect Beck but he damn sure didn't say anything to Pharrell about beating her.
Frankly I don't feel sorry for anyone who has 20 Grammys (many won simply because of popularity). The album was nothing spectacular. All anyone talks about is the surprise factor.
A big side eye to her for shading Ledisi.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 10, 2015 7:44:38 GMT -5
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Feb 10, 2015 14:08:21 GMT -5
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Post by tommymonster44 on Feb 11, 2015 22:58:43 GMT -5
This is hairsplitting now. Most if not all multiple Grammy-winners are recipients because of the genre-based categories. What's more is POC have won AOTY five times out of ten the last decade; four out of ten for the 1990's. Stevie Wonder himself is tied for most AOTY wins (3). Regardless, this album was incredibly impactful and a monumental moment in music in the past couple of years. Its insane to me that it lost out. 1. How is it racism that an urban leaning artist wins most of their awards in urban categories? 2. The Grammy's should (theoretically) give awards based on the construction of the music itself. Things such as an album's impactful marketing campaign shouldn't be a factor. Obviously this isn't always true—the Academy is clearly biased. 3. These awards aren't that big of a deal when talking about musical quality anyways. Like I said in my second point, the academy is biased. At the end of the day, they are running a pricey awards show within the multibillion dollar industry of music. Frankly, none of the nominated albums were really the best albums of the past year. Sam Smith's regurgitated ballad album and Ed Sheeren's typical pop album had no business being nominated. Don't get me wrong, I love both of their albums. But, if we step back and look at what truly qualifies as superior music, I can think of many albums better than all of the nominations. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Grammy's are in an eternal balancing act of selecting the right mixture of X factor, critical acclaim, sales, and public perception in order to award the singer that would please the greatest number of people. They should be taken with a grain of salt. |
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Post by KissMyAxe on Feb 18, 2015 18:12:20 GMT -5
is that a transexual Beyonce look a like ?
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Post by divasummer on Feb 18, 2015 18:32:17 GMT -5
Supposedly that pic and other pics that are leaking are before the touch ups during one of her Loreal make up shoots.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 18, 2015 18:40:36 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Feb 18, 2015 18:40:58 GMT -5
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 18, 2015 18:48:14 GMT -5
I'm glad the photos leaked for two reasons - 1) she's still beautiful, except for that one shot posted - the others are better; 2) it's shocking how digital film retouching is done. It's too bad they got pulled, but, of course, they are all over the place now. Seriously, did people expect that she really looks all perfect in her Iwokeuplikethis or whatever Instagram? Please! She's a real woman, who also happens to be extremely talented, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 22:46:49 GMT -5
As my friend just pointed out, what's crazy about that photo is that it's so obvious that she looked better before they caked the makeup on, and they just did it so they'd have 'lines' to fill in later. They didn't even go into this shoot with the idea of taking pictures and erasing any flaws later; they went in already knowing what they wanted to create, and all they needed was a basic bone structure for the template. The actual face in front of them almost literally did not matter or play a role in it at all, flaws or not.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Feb 19, 2015 1:04:49 GMT -5
I feel like those photos have been altered to make her look worse. Everyone has an unflattering or less than stellar photo or two that they took when taking pictures and then they used the best ones and then no one is supposed to see the not-so-good ones. We have seen countless images of her looking flawless so this is really a non-issue.
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Post by die Lotterie on Feb 19, 2015 1:22:51 GMT -5
She's still gorgeous, but her face isn't aging well at all…I'm not basing that solely on that photo either. Let's not act like the intensity of her smile lines hasn't grown exponentially over the past few years. She's starting to resemble a ventriloquist dummy.
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