#LisaRinna
Diamond Member
#LiteralLegender
Joined: August 2008
Posts: 42,594
|
Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 20, 2017 10:40:28 GMT -5
I would be lying if I said I was surprised - Usher is the definition of community dick B*tch I screamed.
|
|
think pink.
Diamond Member
👑 💅🏻
Joined: April 2011
Posts: 24,311
|
Post by think pink. on Jul 20, 2017 10:47:16 GMT -5
In all seriousness, where does boo go from here?. Assuming this is true (and it's looking like it is), will he address the allegations or ignore it? This isn't one of those cases where if you ignore it, it'll go away and the public is on to the next. Being a sex symbol has been apart of his massive appeal his entire career so it's not easily avoidable. He can either ignore it and face the never ending memes or "embrace" it and ~educate~ the youth about protective sex and try to spin it into a positive? Lol I dunno. But something has to be done for his image sake.
*Note* I don't think he should be harshly judged or shamed for this, nobody should.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 11:01:25 GMT -5
So embarrassing. "Usher Herpes" was trending on YAHOO this morning.
|
|
Linnethia Monique
Diamond Member
Still 100% Snackable
🗣 NOW GET YOUR BOOTS AND YOUR COAT FOR THIS...
Joined: December 2004
Posts: 24,208
|
Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 20, 2017 11:45:39 GMT -5
If Chris Brown can beat somebody's ass and still be considered a "sex symbol" amongst the weak and thirsty, Usher Raymond can have herpes and women will still lay on their back for him.
|
|
Zinc.
5x Platinum Member
Joined: January 2007
Posts: 5,506
|
Post by Zinc. on Jul 20, 2017 11:50:05 GMT -5
|
|
Kishi KCM
Diamond Member
Work In Progress
Joined: March 2007
Posts: 11,388
|
Post by Kishi KCM on Jul 20, 2017 12:03:47 GMT -5
This situation is horrible, because the public has no knowledge or maturity when it comes to sexual health.
Medical records and sexual history isn't something that should be public information.
Whatever transpired between them is unfortunate, but the amount of ridicule and jokes I've seen online about this story is disgusting.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 12:39:42 GMT -5
I have an overwhelming urge to listen to Bump now. WHY. In all seriousness, where does boo go from here?. Assuming this is true (and it's looking like it is), will he address the allegations or ignore it? This isn't one of those cases where if you ignore it, it'll go away and the public is on to the next. Being a sex symbol has been apart of his massive appeal his entire career so it's not easily avoidable. He can either ignore it and face the never ending memes or "embrace" it and ~educate~ the youth about protective sex and try to spin it into a positive? Lol I dunno. But something has to be done for his image sake. *Note* I don't think he should be harshly judged or shamed for this, nobody should. Things that work in his favor: 1. Mainstream media doesn't really check for him like that. Black Twitter and the like are blowing up but the gossip doesn't seem to be reaching past that much. (I've even suspected TMZ was on his payroll ever since his custody battle which was messy af yet didn't gt blasted all over their website) At the end of the day the masses tend to be pretty forgetful as long as you give them a hit to dance to and the relative lack of coverage beyond urban circles will make it easier to forget or not even know. 2. "Everyone in Hollywood has herpes" - whether true or not there are a lot of people who believe this (in fact there are a lot of people who even believe most of the general pop has it) and it's not a deadly disease, so finding out Usher has it doesn't really shock the conscious. Herpes itself doesn't seem to carry the amount of stigma it used to. Things working against him: 1. The same basic bitchass mentality that led to this s**t in the first place is also the same basic bitchass mentality that I blame for him not embracing and really promoting his legacy status. This man has the same level of accomplishment as Beyonce save for the Grammys ("only" eight of them) yet he has consistently been written off as a guy who had a cute run but can't keep up with the likes of Chris Brown/Trey Songz/Bryson Tiller/whoever has next at any given moment. Let some of these people tell it the only hit album he ever had was Confessions, as if that was a fluke and My Way and 8701 hadn't already established him as a superstar. It doesn't have to be that way, though. 'I need to remind these people who tf I am' should not be the hardest mountain in the world to scale for someone with a 20+ year career of hits, so if he can't even properly handle that I don't know if he has the mental capacity it would take to get past this issue which is a lot messier. 2. The ONLY thing keeping this at kii level and not blast level for Black Twitter right now is the fact that R. Kelly just reminded us he's still the worst excuse of a human being still existing. But when you think about it, lying to your sexual partners about your STD status is hella foul. It's not the herp that's doing him in so much as the behavior that led to him getting and spreading it - when people start thinking it through, they're going to be turned off less by his having herpes and more by the way he kept hoeing around recklessly despite knowing he had it. I had a flashback to when Chili broke up with him and said it was because "he did the unforgivable," but never would say what that was. We just knew it had to be something deeper than just cheating. A lot of people are thinking about this now and assuming he gave her something Ajax can't wash off. Then the green discharge (eww) that Tameka's bridesmaid saw was probably trich, gonorrhea or chlamydia which is why he could truthfully claim it was "cleared up" without mentioning the herpes, but that lets you know this ***I'M RACIST*** isn't even trying to wrap it up to keep himself or his partners protected. Usher cannot start doing PSAs about protective sex when it's obvious that he refuses to have it. (Edit - to piggyback on BMAC here though, if Chris Brown can still win over urban fans while being being Chris Brown and R. Kelly can still sell out concerts while his sex slave cult is being dragged by Buzzfeed of all news outlets, Usher too can overcome some green skeet. But this goes back to flaw #1: if Usher wants people to get past who he is as a person, he has to get his mind right and remind people of who he is as a musician.) 3. Interviews to "embrace" and address the situation only work if you're willing to show some humility, but Usher is too narcissistic. He will talk in circles as a defense mechanism as soon as the questions get pointed (e.g. Oprah interview after his divorce from Tameka) and it would backfire. 4. Said narcissism may also lead him to be too prideful to hire a crisis management team to do all the thinking for him right now. I would advise him to just lay low for the rest of the year. Turning off comments isn't enough - inactivate all social media accounts, stay away from the groupies, and beg Grace to stay with him at least until the end of the year b/c a divorce would just be icing on the horrible PR cake. If she is determined to leave him make it as quiet as possible and have all court docs sealed. Quietly get in on a few promising upstarts and then casually let his name be leaked in the press when one or more of the ventures take off. Continue investing in his nonprofit endeavors. Stay away from politics. Come back in spring 2018 with a greatest hits package helmed by an uptempo banger. Don't worry about genre or how "urban" it is or being called a sellout bc he's chasing trends and promoting heavy to CHR; just make a smash that no one can deny and promote the hell out of it. Buy himself the Icon award at the BBMAs or the VMA Vanguard and do a 10 minute set of hits; do a televised holiday special; etc. Spare no expense in 2018 to remind these people who tf he is. And triple up on that Valtrex.
|
|
|
Post by The Music Man on Jul 20, 2017 14:52:28 GMT -5
LOL @ Tameka - "My health (everywhere) is great."
|
|
think pink.
Diamond Member
👑 💅🏻
Joined: April 2011
Posts: 24,311
|
Post by think pink. on Jul 20, 2017 17:17:51 GMT -5
I wish @antigonerising was Usher's manager.
|
|
Glove Slap
Administrator
Sweetheart
Downloading ༺༒༻ Possibilities
Joined: January 2007
Posts: 29,512
Staff
|
Post by Glove Slap on Jul 20, 2017 18:06:41 GMT -5
|
|
think pink.
Diamond Member
👑 💅🏻
Joined: April 2011
Posts: 24,311
|
Post by think pink. on Jul 20, 2017 18:37:30 GMT -5
He can't go out like this 😭😭😭
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 20:21:34 GMT -5
I wish @antigonerising was Usher's manager. I'm going in as soon as I can find a plus size Hazmat suit. This ninja clearly needs me.
|
|
Linnethia Monique
Diamond Member
Still 100% Snackable
🗣 NOW GET YOUR BOOTS AND YOUR COAT FOR THIS...
Joined: December 2004
Posts: 24,208
|
Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 20, 2017 20:49:43 GMT -5
I wish @antigonerising was Usher's manager. I'm going in as soon as I can find a plus size Hazmat suit. This ninja clearly needs me. He's f#cked all of his others minus his mother so get the saran wrap and dental dams ready sis.
|
|
Ivy Leegue™
Moderator
Successful And Blessed
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 36,844
Pronouns: He/Him
Staff
|
Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Jul 20, 2017 21:40:39 GMT -5
The shit was GREEN, FAMMMM!!
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 22:34:56 GMT -5
I'm going in as soon as I can find a plus size Hazmat suit. This ninja clearly needs me. He's f#cked all of his others minus his mother so get the saran wrap and dental dams ready sis. Well my hope was that the Hazmat suit would be too cumbersome for him to want to deal with trying to get it off...lawd if he's still thirsty enough to try to fuck through that he gonna have to struggle on. I'm just trying to help his career. I'm nobody's hero
|
|
wavey.
Moderator
Look...
Positive Vibes🙏🏾❤
Joined: August 2006
Posts: 43,554
Pronouns: He/Him
Staff
|
Post by wavey. on Jul 20, 2017 23:51:56 GMT -5
|
|
Hashtag Pow
3x Platinum Member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,732
|
Post by Hashtag Pow on Jul 21, 2017 0:19:09 GMT -5
The s**t was GREEN, FAMMMM!! And that's a symptom of gonorrhea, NOT herpes. Yuck. There's no way Tameka didn't get anything from him when they were married, and have kids together. I do hate for him that this has come out, though. The herp is one of the most common STDs in the US. He's not the only entertainer spreading it. These dudes get nasty puss wrapped up in good packaging all the time, and don't know. Hopefully this doesn't hurt his career more than his recent releases already have.
|
|
Ivy Leegue™
Moderator
Successful And Blessed
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 36,844
Pronouns: He/Him
Staff
|
Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Jul 21, 2017 8:48:16 GMT -5
:sick: But, to Tameka's credit, maybe those babies are from a test tube or turkey baster squirt since Ursh is known to lay down with every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Harriet.
|
|
Hashtag Pow
3x Platinum Member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,732
|
Post by Hashtag Pow on Jul 21, 2017 9:47:33 GMT -5
Good point!
|
|
Hashtag Pow
3x Platinum Member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,732
|
Post by Hashtag Pow on Jul 21, 2017 9:49:56 GMT -5
There was a while back when Usher on Snapchat in a pharmacy picking up prescriptions. Then he went on a rant about how his insurance didn't cover the prescriptions. Everything is making sense! Lol
|
|
#LisaRinna
Diamond Member
#LiteralLegender
Joined: August 2008
Posts: 42,594
|
Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 21, 2017 10:58:51 GMT -5
|
|
dbhmr
Diamond Member
>
Joined: January 2005
Posts: 23,485
|
Post by dbhmr on Jul 21, 2017 11:29:57 GMT -5
The s**t was GREEN, FAMMMM!! And that's a symptom of gonorrhea, NOT herpes. Yuck. There's no way Tameka didn't get anything from him when they were married, and have kids together. I do hate for him that this has come out, though. The herp is one of the most common STDs in the US. He's not the only entertainer spreading it. These dudes get nasty puss wrapped up in good packaging all the time, and don't know. Hopefully this doesn't hurt his career more than his recent releases already have. Well...that's one way to spin this into being the woman's fault, I suppose. The STD shaming is so predictable and gross, but I thought part of this controversy was that he said he was disease-free and clearly wasn't? I mean, seriously unwise for anyone to take someone at their word, but lying about this is so fucked up, and if true, really hampers any sympathy I have for the backlash he'll receive.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 13:43:26 GMT -5
There was a while back when Usher on Snapchat in a pharmacy picking up prescriptions. Then he went on a rant about how his insurance didn't cover the prescriptions. Everything is making sense! Lol OMG how did I not know about this? smh well at least he took my advice to triple up on the meds I guess. But also how is he gonna be worth $180 million (I think I got that figure right?) and complaining about uncovered drugs like he can't afford them with ease. And that's a symptom of gonorrhea, NOT herpes. Yuck. There's no way Tameka didn't get anything from him when they were married, and have kids together. I do hate for him that this has come out, though. The herp is one of the most common STDs in the US. He's not the only entertainer spreading it. These dudes get nasty puss wrapped up in good packaging all the time, and don't know. Hopefully this doesn't hurt his career more than his recent releases already have. Well...that's one way to spin this into being the woman's fault, I suppose. The STD shaming is so predictable and gross, but I thought part of this controversy was that he said he was disease-free and clearly wasn't? I mean, seriously unwise for anyone to take someone at their word, but lying about this is so f**ked up, and if true, really hampers any sympathy I have for the backlash he'll receive. FWIW reaction I have seen overall has been split. On one hand you have the side that is saying, 'I'm not going to shame him for this, herpes is more common than people think, it's not deadly, why are we discussing someone's private medical history anyway,' etc. but in doing so these people are completely sidestepping his [alleged] actions. On the other hand you have the people who are going in on him - and that going in definitely stems from the allegation that he lied about it, then paid the person off to make her go away - but they're also trying to push back against the 'attempted normalization' of herpes, taking it too far and tipping over into fear mongering and STD-shaming territory in the process. Also it's clear that many people on both sides are confused if not entirely uneducated about herpes, the different types, how it spreads, what affects it may or may not have on one's health elsewhere, the effectiveness of condom use, etc. Some people may be asymptomatic carriers (which apparently Usher was diagnosed with) but other people may have regular and/or really painful outbreaks (which is what happened to Maya according to the lawsuit). Herpes isn't deadly but there's no way to know how any person will react to a herpes infection, which is why there is no excuse for failing to disclose that information to your sexual partners. I will offer Usher this one possible defense - that since he was asymptomatic he possibly did not know at the time he had herpes even after getting tested and treated for something else, or he knew and (wrongly) thought that since he wasn't experiencing an outbreak he couldn't pass it on to someone else. This still doesn't make him look great, but being stupidly reckless is slightly more forgivable than knowingly putting someone at risk. Most of the allegations in the suit point to him lying though, which as a fan really stings. I was never under the impression he was a 'nice guy' by any means but this is such a blow to his supposed character.
|
|
think pink.
Diamond Member
👑 💅🏻
Joined: April 2011
Posts: 24,311
|
Post by think pink. on Jul 21, 2017 14:38:29 GMT -5
Lol no he was just trolling the pharmacist 😂😩
9:23
|
|
George
Diamond Member
Joined: November 2005
Posts: 21,874
|
Post by George on Jul 21, 2017 15:04:33 GMT -5
There was a while back when Usher on Snapchat in a pharmacy picking up prescriptions. Then he went on a rant about how his insurance didn't cover the prescriptions. Everything is making sense! Lol OMG how did I not know about this? smh well at least he took my advice to triple up on the meds I guess. But also how is he gonna be worth $180 million (I think I got that figure right?) and complaining about uncovered drugs like he can't afford them with ease.I was looking at his Wiki yesterday, and I was surprised he went vegan for a while, but quit because it got too expensive? Usher Stopped Being Vegan Because it was too Expensive!
|
|
Linnethia Monique
Diamond Member
Still 100% Snackable
🗣 NOW GET YOUR BOOTS AND YOUR COAT FOR THIS...
Joined: December 2004
Posts: 24,208
|
Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 21, 2017 15:09:54 GMT -5
Let Usher save some coin!
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 15:12:17 GMT -5
I have no sympathy for him being shamed over this if he really lied about his STI status, which is what it looks like happened. I think the shaming is misplaced (it should he be directed at the lying, not the fact he has an STI), but I think it's warranted when someone lies and infects others with STIs.
|
|
Zinc.
5x Platinum Member
Joined: January 2007
Posts: 5,506
|
Post by Zinc. on Jul 21, 2017 18:26:50 GMT -5
|
|
think pink.
Diamond Member
👑 💅🏻
Joined: April 2011
Posts: 24,311
|
Post by think pink. on Jul 21, 2017 18:57:46 GMT -5
Okay bye everyone
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 19:00:10 GMT -5
|
|