Lana Del Rey - "Young And Beautiful"

[Deleted]

Well, sorry I did not know that it HAS to do smth with you.
The Australian chart was OFFICIALLY revealed in France some 10 hours before I posted this here...
Maybe it is the time zone difference, dunno

p.s. Where do you actually keep suspense for the countdown?

[Az Paynter]

Might have something to do with we Australians don't want our own chart spoiled for us...

[Lozzy]

Nov 30, 2013 7:19:48 GMT -5 @bobbs said:

Well, sorry I did not know that it HAS to do smth with you.
The Australian chart was OFFICIALLY revealed in France some 10 hours before I posted this here...
Maybe it is the time zone difference, dunno

p.s. Where do you actually keep suspense for the countdown?

The chart is revealed on the Take40 radio show (badly, but that's beside the point) on Saturday afternoons. That's the official, ARIA endorsed reveal, and ARIA posts the full chart on their website at the end of that. I would not consider a post on that French forum "official" (why would ARIA choose to reveal it through there); that's a leak.

I'm not saying you have to do anything because I don't have the authority for that; I was just asking politely because your post spoiled the top 10 for me today and that wasn't fun.

That's all I have to say, thank you again if you do decide to take more care in future :)

ETA: or what Az said.

[Deleted]

Ok, as I said, had no idea that it had to do with YOU or anyone here
and that it can spoil your day/enjoyment/etc...
I simply put it coz we were talking about the song and I remembered it is still high on that chart
that's all and NOTHING else behind it

[Kishi KCM]

I'm so glad that "Young & Beautiful" passed 1 million. Now let's smash!

[Deleted]

5 days till Tropico

I assume hey will send different songs and maybe Y&B to different markets

[Kurt]

Full adds for the week aren't in until tomorrow, but it already has one from WNOW in New York. Hmm.

[allow that]

Dec 9, 2013 18:10:15 GMT -5 Kurt said:

Full adds for the week aren't in until tomorrow, but it already has one from WNOW in New York. Hmm.

WNOW always adds dance songs in advance of an adds date. That doesn't mean they play it more than five times a week though.

[ILLUSION]

I heard this twice on my CHR station yesterday

[B****BetterGetNOSL333P]

I have a question, this song has been out like FOREVER, why push it now, instead of pushing it when the movie came out? I really don't understand. This is too weird.

[ILLUSION]

Jan 5, 2014 10:42:19 GMT -5 B****BetterGetNOSL333P said:

I have a question, this song has been out like FOREVER, why push it now, instead of pushing it when the movie came out? I really don't understand. This is too weird.

Who knows with her label. They waited forever to push Summertime Sadness after the album was released so who knows what is going on.

[Mack]

^ Well, 'Summertime Sadness' didn't take off until over a year after Born to Die was released, so I don't think it's too weird that they're pushing this song now. I'm just hoping that they actually send the first single from her next album for adds, and not a remixed version, either. If artists like Adele and Lorde can have success with their non-remixed songs, Lana should be able to, as well.

[ILLUSION]

Jan 5, 2014 10:48:04 GMT -5 Mack said:

^ Well, 'Summertime Sadness' didn't take off until over a year after Born to Die was released, so I don't think it's too weird that they're pushing this song now.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's weird that they waited a year after the album release to release SS since the other singles flopped.

[Mack]

Jan 5, 2014 10:50:12 GMT -5 ILLUSION said:

Jan 5, 2014 10:48:04 GMT -5 Mack said:

^ Well, 'Summertime Sadness' didn't take off until over a year after Born to Die was released, so I don't think it's too weird that they're pushing this song now.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's weird that they waited a year after the album release to release SS since the other singles flopped.

Oh, sorry- I was actually responding to the guy above you. I agree with you.

[AngelsForever]

Jan 5, 2014 10:50:12 GMT -5 ILLUSION said:

Jan 5, 2014 10:48:04 GMT -5 Mack said:

^ Well, 'Summertime Sadness' didn't take off until over a year after Born to Die was released, so I don't think it's too weird that they're pushing this song now.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's weird that they waited a year after the album release to release SS since the other singles flopped.

What has flopped exactly?

Because last time I checked SS was literally the first single from BTD in the US.

Her label is mess...I'm not sure what they are doing with this song atm. 

Her release has always been messy esp the singles. 

They should have launched Video Games, and BTD WW. SS WW everything WW. but I feel like her label does not trust Lana that she can smash or something.

[Kishi KCM]

She hasn't had the typical release strategy since her debut, especially in the USA. Maybe the label felt her music was too different for pop radio and on hype, a few performances and her music videos, she was selling without radio support. Wasn't the release of "Young & Beautiful" on Alternative radio her first stateside radio hit?

[B****BetterGetNOSL333P]

thank you guys! :)

[Jack]

Jan 7, 2014 23:26:21 GMT -5 AngelsForever said:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's weird that they waited a year after the album release to release SS since the other singles flopped.

Her label is mess...I'm not sure what they are doing with this song atm. 

Her label really isn't. They've sold a sh*t load of albums, she's been touring non stop, and is one of the most famous new artists to come out in the last two years. These typical release strategies that people crave are so 2009. Lana's music is quite subtle and obtuse. Her and her management have done a great job. ZOMG Top ten singles on the Hot 100 or not.

[BadRomance]

2 adds this week!!

[AngelsForever]

Jan 8, 2014 10:39:57 GMT -5 Jack said:

Jan 7, 2014 23:26:21 GMT -5 AngelsForever said:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's weird that they waited a year after the album release to release SS since the other singles flopped.

Her label is mess...I'm not sure what they are doing with this song atm.

Her label really isn't. They've sold a sh*t load of albums, she's been touring non stop, and is one of the most famous new artists to come out in the last two years. These typical release strategies that people crave are so 2009. Lana's music is quite subtle and obtuse. Her and her management have done a great job. ZOMG Top ten singles on the Hot 100 or not.

lol


So her album sold because of her label? :toofunny:

Her album could have sold way more esp in the U.S and with multiple top 10 hits.

She did not get proper promo or the push she deserves.

I'm sure they've learnt their mistake.

But one thing that bugs still is how they handle tropico.

They could have easily discount the price of "Paradise" and buy adds on iTunes but NO.

They need to release a separate EP with the same songs. A tragic mess of a flop.

I hope they send the first single from her new album to radio at least

I'm also praying for a banner on iTunes.

The fact she sold 5 million albums yet her label can't afford adds on iTunes is INSANE.

[jjose712]

There's no way to defend the label here.
Lana has a lot of buzz around her when she released her album, in other countries was a big success, but Video Games was big in a lot of countries too.

I never undertood the SS move, yes, i know it worked, but on the other hand put her on a mainstream map with a sound that's not hers when it was pretty clear that the original version of Young and Beautiful was ready to make an impact (it was near of top 50 without any push).

Maybe this will be rescued by the Oscars, but everybody knows Oscar's nominated songs rarely are the best songs in soundtracks. Everything seems to indicate that Let it go will be the winning song in the movie awards of this season, but a nomination could help this.

In fact, a simple push to the radio could help this, and yes, now the song is old, but SS was older and that didn't stop it

[Kishi KCM]

And the BTD album is still charting. There have been many albums with high profile promotions that have come and gone since January 2012, yet BTD is at #37 and Paradise is at #150 this week on the Billboard 200 Albums chart.

In our minds, labels can always do more, but Lana's music has been selling without her overexposing herself, it's selling on it's own.

[Jack]

Jan 9, 2014 4:33:19 GMT -5 AngelsForever said:

Jan 8, 2014 10:39:57 GMT -5 Jack said:

Her label really isn't. They've sold a sh*t load of albums, she's been touring non stop, and is one of the most famous new artists to come out in the last two years. These typical release strategies that people crave are so 2009. Lana's music is quite subtle and obtuse. Her and her management have done a great job. ZOMG Top ten singles on the Hot 100 or not.

lol


So her album sold because of her label? :toofunny:

Her album could have sold way more esp in the U.S and with multiple top 10 hits.

She did not get proper promo or the push she deserves.

I'm sure they've learnt their mistake.

But one thing that bugs still is how they handle tropico.

They could have easily discount the price of "Paradise" and buy adds on iTunes but NO.

They need to release a separate EP with the same songs. A tragic mess of a flop.

I hope they send the first single from her new album to radio at least

I'm also praying for a banner on iTunes.

The fact she sold 5 million albums yet her label can't afford adds on iTunes is INSANE.

So wait, all the success is because of Lana, and all the failures are down to the label? :toofunny:

I, for one, am so sick of people playing record boss behind their keyboard when they have no idea the complexities, barriers, chains of command, scheduling, budgets etc. that come to firstly, running a successful label and secondly, launching a successful artist.

You can write a laundry list of things you want to do. But you're not playing Rollercoaster Tycoon with the cheat setting on. Five million sold is a huge number for a new artist. Her management are incredibly savvy with money, and the profits are team make are astronomical. She had huge promo. Not to mention you're ignoring the SNL performances that entirely derailed her confidence and forced her and the label to rethink their whole approach right in the middle of when it was all taking off.

Ultimately, I'm afraid I don't think you know enough about the music industry, or the relativity of how well Lana has done, to be espousing about what could have been done. Because yes, everyone wants a iTunes banner now and again. Everybody wants to play halftime at the Super Bowl. Everybody wants a plane flying around the world 24/7 making sky-writing saying "Buy my album out now". But the things they did do have made Lana one of the most successful, famous and talked about new artists in years in a industry where there'll be a tonne of new artists you never even hear of. For all the moaning that goes on around here about people's favs not doing as well as they want, so many fail to see the flipside of the coin, whereby they have done worse, or worse yet...nothing at all.

[AngelsForever]

Jan 9, 2014 6:41:39 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

There's no way to defend the label here.
Lana has a lot of buzz around her when she released her album, in other countries was a big success, but Video Games was big in a lot of countries too.

I never undertood the SS move, yes, i know it worked, but on the other hand put her on a mainstream map with a sound that's not hers when it was pretty clear that the original version of Young and Beautiful was ready to make an impact (it was near of top 50 without any push).

Maybe this will be rescued by the Oscars, but everybody knows Oscar's nominated songs rarely are the best songs in soundtracks. Everything seems to indicate that Let it go will be the winning song in the movie awards of this season, but a nomination could help this.

In fact, a simple push to the radio could help this, and yes, now the song is old, but SS was older and that didn't stop it

completely agreed.

It's like Interscope is not sure her original material can smash.

BTD (single) was on all access page at one point but was later pulled for unknown reason.

Also, they waited until Y&B enter the top 10 and peaked digitally already to send it to radio. They could have sent that the same day the audio was posted on YOutube BUT NO.

Lana music has to PROVE to them that it can do well for them to "PUSH IT".

The exact same thing happened with Summertime Sadness. The song (Original Version)exploded all over Europe but they were reluctant to release it in America until Americans Radio start picking up the remix ONE YEAR LATER then they officially release it. A mess and tragedy.

[AngelsForever]

Jan 9, 2014 8:59:26 GMT -5 Jack said:

Jan 9, 2014 4:33:19 GMT -5 AngelsForever said:

lol


So her album sold because of her label? :toofunny:

Her album could have sold way more esp in the U.S and with multiple top 10 hits.

She did not get proper promo or the push she deserves.

I'm sure they've learnt their mistake.

But one thing that bugs still is how they handle tropico.

They could have easily discount the price of "Paradise" and buy adds on iTunes but NO.

They need to release a separate EP with the same songs. A tragic mess of a flop.

I hope they send the first single from her new album to radio at least

I'm also praying for a banner on iTunes.

The fact she sold 5 million albums yet her label can't afford adds on iTunes is INSANE.

So wait, all the success is because of Lana, and all the failures are down to the label? :toofunny:

I, for one, am so sick of people playing record boss behind their keyboard when they have no idea the complexities, barriers, chains of command, scheduling, budgets etc. that come to firstly, running a successful label and secondly, launching a successful artist.

You can write a laundry list of things you want to do. But you're not playing Rollercoaster Tycoon with the cheat setting on. Five million sold is a huge number for a new artist. Her management are incredibly savvy with money, and the profits are team make are astronomical. She had huge promo. Not to mention you're ignoring the SNL performances that entirely derailed her confidence and forced her and the label to rethink their whole approach right in the middle of when it was all taking off.

Ultimately, I'm afraid I don't think you know enough about the music industry, or the relativity of how well Lana has done, to be espousing about what could have been done. Because yes, everyone wants a iTunes banner now and again. Everybody wants to play halftime at the Super Bowl. Everybody wants a plane flying around the world 24/7 making sky-writing saying "Buy my album out now". But the things they did do have made Lana one of the most successful, famous and talked about new artists in years in a industry where there'll be a tonne of new artists you never even hear of. For all the moaning that goes on around here about people's favs not doing as well as they want, so many fail to see the flipside of the coin, whereby they have done worse, or worse yet...nothing at all.

In this case most likely, her music (album) has a VERY good word of mouth. All failures like BTD, VG failing to make impact in the U.S were most definitely her labels fault.

Her SNL performance OBVIOUSLY did nothing to her career as her album is selling fine, but her LABEL being the smart ass they are were afraid to push her because of that "Disaster"

BTD and VG actually received airplay despite her historic SNL performance. Her album did not drop from the charts at all.

It sells based on the quality of her music as we have said already in this thread, her label could have done a better job at managing her releases. 5 million is fantastic but we all know the album is capable of way more.



HUGE PROMO? where in god's world?



We may not know what's going on behind the scene but we're just pointing out the OBVIOUS fail on their part. I don't want to drag other artist but hey

Gaga had banners splattered across iTunes for MONTHS and a billion different tv appearances, I wonder how interscope is feeling now after seeing the under performance of artpop.

My point is that they could have at least try to push their artists equally instead playing "predictions" on who would smash and who wouldn't. They clearly believed that Gaga's artpop would do very well that's why they spend a lot to promote it but they were wrong. Lana promotional budgets were obviously capped because of her "unconventional sound" that they believe would NOT do as well.

Oh well, Lana next era will be different and I'm looking forward to it. 

[Lahey's Lucky Star]

Jan 9, 2014 9:06:49 GMT -5 AngelsForever said:

Jan 9, 2014 6:41:39 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

There's no way to defend the label here.
Lana has a lot of buzz around her when she released her album, in other countries was a big success, but Video Games was big in a lot of countries too.

I never undertood the SS move, yes, i know it worked, but on the other hand put her on a mainstream map with a sound that's not hers when it was pretty clear that the original version of Young and Beautiful was ready to make an impact (it was near of top 50 without any push).

Maybe this will be rescued by the Oscars, but everybody knows Oscar's nominated songs rarely are the best songs in soundtracks. Everything seems to indicate that Let it go will be the winning song in the movie awards of this season, but a nomination could help this.

In fact, a simple push to the radio could help this, and yes, now the song is old, but SS was older and that didn't stop it

completely agreed.

It's like Interscope is not sure her original material can smash.

BTD (single) was on all access page at one point but was later pulled for unknown reason.

Also, they waited until Y&B enter the top 10 and peaked digitally already to send it to radio. They could have sent that the same day the audio was posted on YOutube BUT NO.

Lana music has to PROVE to them that it can do well for them to "PUSH IT".

The exact same thing happened with Summertime Sadness. The song (Original Version)exploded all over Europe but they were reluctant to release it in America until Americans Radio start picking up the remix ONE YEAR LATER then they officially release it. A mess and tragedy.

Especially since the remix also charted in Europe. They pick up anything that is Lana (especially since I heard "Dark Paradise" while streaming a Greek radio station).

[BadRomance]

79 67 DEL REY, LANA Young And Beautiful 121 91 30 1.637

Maybe it has a chance!

[Tea-why]

I like this song WAYYYYY more than "Summertime Sadness".

All versions of it are great.