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Post by taylor on Sept 16, 2021 14:55:27 GMT -5
2021 CMT Artist of the Year nominees have been announced!
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 16, 2021 16:08:10 GMT -5
Outside of Luke & Chris, those were weak picks. I think it’s obvious why Kelsea & Kane were awarded lol. As for Gabby, her success is so annoying. I don’t think having 2 big singles should automatically put you at the top over other artists, but that’s my opinion 🙃
I’m happy Kelsea is getting some recognition though. She’s one of those artists who is snubbed too often.
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Post by bboat11 on Sept 16, 2021 16:26:55 GMT -5
Outside of Luke & Chris, those were weak picks. I think it’s obvious why Kelsea & Kane were awarded lol. As for Gabby, her success is so annoying. I don’t think having 2 big singles should automatically put you at the top over other artists, but that’s my opinion 🙃 I’m happy Kelsea is getting some recognition though. She’s one of those artists who is snubbed too often. I know you said it was just your opinion, but I think you'd have a hard time finding even one metric by which Kelsea, Kane, and especially Gabby are weaker nominees than Chris Stapleton, lol.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 16, 2021 17:14:09 GMT -5
Album wise Chris is on a whole other level. Not sure if Kane dropped an album within the last year, but "Starting Over" is easily better than both of Kelsea's albums and Gabby's album.
Once again, this is my opinion lol.
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Post by recordyear on Sept 16, 2021 18:31:13 GMT -5
I know you said it was just your opinion, but I think you'd have a hard time finding even one metric by which Kelsea, Kane, and especially Gabby are weaker nominees than Chris Stapleton, lol. ...and Pulse is so detached from the real scene as usual. Like the poster said above album wise he tramples them commercially and critically, but also Starting Over is a huge single that will be near top half of Hot 100 year-end list this year, which is something Kelsea doesn't have in recent years. Maybe I can guess why these artists are honored? Luke Combs - Forever After All Kelsea Ballerini - two versions of an album, a decent country hit Kane Brown - an EP with one decent country hit and one huge pop hit, apparently they are also counting Memory and One Mississippi as well (Edit: also Famous Friends) Gabby Barrett - two very huge singles Chris Stapleton - a huge album and a huge country hit
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Post by bboat11 on Sept 16, 2021 21:04:52 GMT -5
I know you said it was just your opinion, but I think you'd have a hard time finding even one metric by which Kelsea, Kane, and especially Gabby are weaker nominees than Chris Stapleton, lol. ...and Pulse is so detached from the real scene as usual. Like the poster said above album wise he tramples them commercially and critically, but also Starting Over is a huge single that will be near top half of Hot 100 year-end list this year, which is something Kelsea doesn't have in recent years. Maybe I can guess why these artists are honored? Luke Combs - Forever After All Kelsea Ballerini - two versions of an album, a decent country hit Kane Brown - an EP with one decent country hit and one huge pop hit, apparently they are also counting Memory and One Mississippi as well (Edit: also Famous Friends) Gabby Barrett - two very huge singles Chris Stapleton - a huge album and a huge country hit Soooooo basically Chris had an album and a hit, just like everybody else. I'm not saying he's not deserving, I'm just pointing out that it is odd to act like the others are somehow less deserving and that this is Chris vs. a weak field when they all did more or less the same thing (albeit with slight variations in amount of radio success, sales success, touring success, quantity of hits and albums, etc.) It's not like this is Chris Stapleton versus Cole Swindell, lmao. These are five people who have been putting in work, and are definitely on the forefront of the genre right now as far as overall exposure is concerned.
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Post by taylor on Sept 16, 2021 23:23:29 GMT -5
“The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia,” from the Remixed disc of Reba’s upcoming remix/re-recording album, is out now!!
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Post by bboat11 on Sept 16, 2021 23:30:31 GMT -5
I wish she'd give us more of the Revived and Revisited tracks! I ain't been asking for the Remixed ones!! 😂
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Post by taylor on Sept 16, 2021 23:32:46 GMT -5
I wish she'd give us more of the Revived and Revisited tracks! I ain't been asking for the Remixed ones!! 😂 So am i the only one LOVING Disc 2 then? Lol. I will just say I never thought I would be DANCING to TNTLWOIG.
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Post by bboat11 on Sept 16, 2021 23:40:38 GMT -5
I wish she'd give us more of the Revived and Revisited tracks! I ain't been asking for the Remixed ones!! 😂 So am i the only one LOVING Disc 2 then? Lol. I will just say I never thought I would be DANCING to TNTLWOIG. I'm sure I'll like it fine in the grand scheme of things.......but I could not care less about the remixed tracks as far as pre-releases are concerned. Give me them NEW VOCALS! I will enjoy the remixes a lot more once I can just put all 30 songs on shuffle
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Post by recordyear on Sept 17, 2021 0:10:39 GMT -5
Soooooo basically Chris had an album and a hit, just like everybody else. I'm not saying he's not deserving, I'm just pointing out that it is odd to act like the others are somehow less deserving and that this is Chris vs. a weak field when they all did more or less the same thing (albeit with slight variations in amount of radio success, sales success, touring success, quantity of hits and albums, etc.) It's not like this is Chris Stapleton versus Cole Swindell, lmao. These are five people who have been putting in work, and are definitely on the forefront of the genre right now as far as overall exposure is concerned. Eh if "everybody else" has an album and a hit, then what's the factor that makes these five being nominees instead of "everybody else"? Just a matter of fact, Sam Hunt, Miranda Lambert, Eric Church, Thomas Rhett, Dan + Shay, Blake Shelton, Chris Young, Florida Georgia Line (for example) all have an album and a hit. And really you call these variations "slight"? There is a considerable difference among a song that barely made in year-end charts, a song that is in the middle of year-end charts, and a song that is high in year-end charts. There is also a huge difference between the sales of Starting Over (album) and any other albums from the nominees (sans Luke Combs), like Kelsea sold 43k pure in 2020 year-end which is just below 60% of first week pure sales of Starting Over (75k), for example. Let's not sugarcoat the fact that there is a huge popularity gap among mainstream artists nowadays, and some artists are really weaker than the top ones.
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Post by bboat11 on Sept 17, 2021 2:41:36 GMT -5
Okay, once again, I am not saying Chris Stapleton is undeserving, I'm saying that the other choices are statistically not weak in comparison to him. Obviously "Starting Over" was a big hit, but literally all of these people have had top 40 hits on the Hot 100 in the past year. In fact, "Famous Friends", "I Hope", "The Good Ones", "Better Together" and "Forever After All" were all bigger hits on the Hot 100 than "Starting Over", so if your argument is that "Starting Over" was some huge hit in the mainstream world, literally 3 of these artists can claim to have just as big of hits, if not bigger. And of course all of them have had #1s on country radio in the past year, with multiple songs in Gabby and Luke's case. And yes, Chris Stapleton has sales, but it's not like the other artists don't. "Hole in the Bottle", "The Good Ones", "Better Together", and "Forever After All" are all Platinum, while of course "I Hope" is 5x Platinum, blowing everybody else completely out of the water in streams and sales. While "Starting Over" isn't certified in anything yet. Of course from an albums perspective, Luke Combs' latest era is 2xPlatinum, and Gabby Barrett's is Gold. Kane doesn't really have a current era, and Kelsea/ Ballerini and Starting Over haven't been certified in anything yet. That's not to say that they aren't ready to be certified in some capacity, I'm just pointing out that it's not like Chris is the only artist here who can sell anything. Even if his sales are better than the others here, that doesn't mean the others are slouches in that department. The only one that does not have bigger hits and comparable sales in the past year is Kelsea Ballerini. And that doesn't even mean that she's undeserving, it just means that it is not quite as laughable to call her "weak" as it is for the other nominees. In summary, I am not saying Chris Stapleton is undeserving, I'm saying that the other choices are statistically not weak in comparison to him. {Spoiler} But also, this is CMT. Unless they're showing reruns of Pure Country, do we care about anything they do or say?
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Post by mnvikings on Sept 17, 2021 6:29:52 GMT -5
If you look back at the CMT award winners and nominees it’s a little easier to tell why they picked the five artists they did. Kane And Kelsea were two of the four finalists for video of the year, he won male video of the year. Gabby Barrett won female video of the year.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 17, 2021 7:04:20 GMT -5
Okay, once again, I am not saying Chris Stapleton is undeserving, I'm saying that the other choices are statistically not weak in comparison to him. Obviously "Starting Over" was a big hit, but literally all of these people have had top 40 hits on the Hot 100 in the past year. In fact, "Famous Friends", "I Hope", "The Good Ones", "Better Together" and "Forever After All" were all bigger hits on the Hot 100 than "Starting Over", so if your argument is that "Starting Over" was some huge hit in the mainstream world, literally 3 of these artists can claim to have just as big of hits, if not bigger. And of course all of them have had #1s on country radio in the past year, with multiple songs in Gabby and Luke's case. And yes, Chris Stapleton has sales, but it's not like the other artists don't. "Hole in the Bottle", "The Good Ones", "Better Together", and "Forever After All" are all Platinum, while of course "I Hope" is 5x Platinum, blowing everybody else completely out of the water in streams and sales. While "Starting Over" isn't certified in anything yet. Of course from an albums perspective, Luke Combs' latest era is 2xPlatinum, and Gabby Barrett's is Gold. Kane doesn't really have a current era, and Kelsea/ Ballerini and Starting Over haven't been certified in anything yet. That's not to say that they aren't ready to be certified in some capacity, I'm just pointing out that it's not like Chris is the only artist here who can sell anything. Even if his sales are better than the others here, that doesn't mean the others are slouches in that department. The only one that does not have bigger hits and comparable sales in the past year is Kelsea Ballerini. And that doesn't even mean that she's undeserving, it just means that it is not quite as laughable to call her "weak" as it is for the other nominees. In summary, I am not saying Chris Stapleton is undeserving, I'm saying that the other choices are statistically not weak in comparison to him. {Spoiler} But also, this is CMT. Unless they're showing reruns of Pure Country, do we care about anything they do or say? You know Gabby’s hits were only big because of crossover play & TikTok right? “I Hope” had the successful remix with Charlie Puth & “The Good Ones” blew up on TikTok. Aside from that, not everything should be based around albums + singles. CMT also had this as criteria: “simultaneously finding creative ways to connect with fans and meet the personal and professional challenges posed by the pandemic.” That said, it’s kind of ridiculous that Miranda Lambert wasn’t recognized considering she hit every box for the things they were looking for.
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 17, 2021 7:47:24 GMT -5
^ I Hope and The Good Ones were already going to be big if you subtract those things though. “I Hope” reached like #15 on the hot 100 before the crossover play began. The Good Ones was going to be big as well considering the music video had somewhere in the 10-15 million range before it was even a single and before it made its rounds on Tik Tok. Those things you listed definitely helped increase popularity, but are not the sole factor that those were huge. Let’s try not to discount her success…
I do think that Miranda and even Carly could/ should be in here as well.
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Post by bdrm87 on Sept 17, 2021 11:34:12 GMT -5
Regardless of how it happened, Gabby has unequivocally been one of the most successful country artists in the last year and is absolutely deserving of an honor like this. I don’t understand how this is even a question.
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 17, 2021 12:20:42 GMT -5
Regardless of how it happened, Gabby has unequivocally been one of the most successful country artists in the last year and is absolutely deserving of an honor like this. I don’t understand how this is even a question. Bingo. I’m not an avid listener of her music at all, but her success has been undeniable. I don’t think she’s just going to be a flash-in-the-pan act.
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Post by mnvikings on Sept 20, 2021 13:50:25 GMT -5
Is Wallen supposed to give away everything he has? I didn't see Nick Cannon giving away any money to anti-racism endeavors.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 20, 2021 13:52:51 GMT -5
Is Wallen supposed to give away everything he has? I didn't see Nick Cannon giving away any money to anti-racism endeavors. Did you even read the article? It mentions how he said on national TV he wanted to give away the money that he got from the boost in sales after the incident, and he mentioned that being $500k. As far as anyone can tell, he didn't do what he said he would. On top of that, despite meeting with BMAC who explained the issues with what he said and the issues in country music, Wallen (again on TV) said he isn't sure if there's a race problem in country music. Nick Cannon has nothing to do with any of it, but you are clearly a racist apologist so move it along.
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Post by mnvikings on Sept 20, 2021 16:45:57 GMT -5
Is Wallen supposed to give away everything he has? I didn't see Nick Cannon giving away any money to anti-racism endeavors. Did you even read the article? It mentions how he said on national TV he wanted to give away the money that he got from the boost in sales after the incident, and he mentioned that being $500k. As far as anyone can tell, he didn't do what he said he would. On top of that, despite meeting with BMAC who explained the issues with what he said and the issues in country music, Wallen (again on TV) said he isn't sure if there's a race problem in country music. Nick Cannon has nothing to do with any of it, but you are clearly a racist apologist so move it along. I guess Morgan Wallen should have just called a certain race of people “evil savages.”
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Post by taylor on Sept 20, 2021 16:50:18 GMT -5
This is for everybody, regardless of where you fall on this debate: can we please stop bringing up Morgan Wallen in this thread every f**king day? This thread is for Country News, not reruns of the Jerry Springer show. Everything boils down to this: Most of us think that Morgan hasn't done enough to rectify his racist incident, and the industry is giving him a free pass for deplorable behavior. A couple of us will never understand why we need to hold white celebrities accountable for saying the N-word, and for some reason feel the need to be super loud about it. That is the takeaway from every single conversation involving Morgan Wallen that has happened in this thread for like five months now. At this point literally nothing new is being added to the discussion, and in fact every mention of his name manages to trigger "the other side" and derail the entire thread... LET'S MOVE ON! If you feel the need to share an opinion about Morgan Wallen, perhaps just log out of your account for a couple hours until the urge to post has passed. Then nobody will argue with you, and we will all be happier. I can promise you with 100% certainty that the vast majority of us have absolutely zero interest in your opinions. Bring on the country news!!!!! /rant
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Post by matty005 on Sept 20, 2021 18:00:14 GMT -5
This is for everybody, regardless of where you fall on this debate: can we please stop bringing up Morgan Wallen in this thread every f**king day? This thread is for Country News, not reruns of the Jerry Springer show. Everything boils down to this: Most of us think that Morgan hasn't done enough to rectify his racist incident, and the industry is giving him a free pass for deplorable behavior. A couple of us will never understand why we need to hold white celebrities accountable for saying the N-word, and for some reason feel the need to be super loud about it. That is the takeaway from every single conversation involving Morgan Wallen that has happened in this thread for like five months now. At this point literally nothing new is being added to the discussion, and in fact every mention of his name manages to trigger "the other side" and derail the entire thread... LET'S MOVE ON! If you feel the need to share an opinion about Morgan Wallen, perhaps just log out of your account for a couple hours until the urge to post has passed. Then nobody will argue with you, and we will all be happier. I can promise you with 100% certainty that the vast majority of us have absolutely zero interest in your opinions. Bring on the country news!!!!! /rant Agreed. However, I urge everyone (even you Tay) to stand up for what is right. Even if it is just repeating yourself. When blatant racism is uttered it’s easy to speak up. When posts like the above from the Vikings Fan go with no one speaking up it can be confused that no one disagrees. I know this goes without saying but people who say racist statements can’t just think it’s okay for them to say. If that means us defending what is right, I think that is something worth getting annoyed over.
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Post by taylor on Sept 20, 2021 18:39:48 GMT -5
Or we can just f**king mass report them rather than constantly derail the thread over the same man who REALLY needs to just be forgotten. I’m sick of coming into this thread and seeing “Morgan Wallen this, Morgan Wallen that.” There are more and much better artists than Morgan Wallen to talk about!!!
Don’t misconstrue this for any sort of ignorance or defense of anything. It just feels like they never listen anyway (trust me; you can yell until your face is purple and they. will. never. listen. My grandfather doesn’t 🤷🏻♀️) so I have just gotten into the habit of reporting every post in here I see that is inconsistent with Pulse’s rules and values.
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