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Post by Lozzy on Aug 12, 2013 13:11:27 GMT -5
After listening to this a lot, I have to say that I'm impressed. Dr. Luke was really able to adjust his production to fit in with the current landscape of pop music, which is kind of surprising. Why is that surprising? He's been progressively updating his sound ever since he broke through in 2005 which is why he hasn't faded at all like other producers. It's not that obvious as he's known for rehashing sounds, but his recent generic songs like "Die Young", "Good Feeling" and "Fall Down" are pretty different to his pop-rock songs from back then like "Since U Been Gone", "U + Ur Hand", "4ever", etc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2013 13:36:47 GMT -5
After listening to this a lot, I have to say that I'm impressed. Dr. Luke was really able to adjust his production to fit in with the current landscape of pop music, which is kind of surprising. Why is that surprising? He's been progressively updating his sound ever since he broke through in 2005 which is why he hasn't faded at all like other producers. It's not that obvious as he's known for rehashing sounds, but his recent generic songs like "Die Young", "Good Feeling" and "Fall Down" are pretty different to his pop-rock songs from back then like "Since U Been Gone", "U + Ur Hand", "4ever", etc. Well, I guess it's because I just keep second-guessing him as a one-trick or two-trick pony. I know I shouldn't still be surprised, but I am.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 12, 2013 13:50:21 GMT -5
Yep. In terms of longevity with radio and sales, it's clear who the winner will be. Ga should've let things stand - she's been pimping 8/19 for so long. Not sure what her strategy is - she could've had her own moment in sun. Anyway, Roar is going to be on the radio for the next few months. Applause will probably have Judas effect (and I like that song). Keep dreaming. While "Applause" may not go the way of "Judas," most evidence supports that "Roar" will outlive "Applause" in the long run. "Roar" is much more radio-friendly. It's very "middle-of-the-road," meaning that it can be safely played on the radio without being too "harsh" or "polarizing" to make a listener tune out. That alone means hot AC and AC will be all over it. Hot AC leaning pop stations will eat it up as well. "Roar" also has a meaning everyone can relate to. "Applause" is far less accessible. AC won't be dying to send it into their top 10 and hot AC won't be nearly as ready to hop onto it as they will with "Roar." Both songs will do well, but at this point, it is safe to assume "Roar" will most likely be the larger hit, even if it is just slightly.
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Post by TheAzianWill on Aug 12, 2013 13:59:16 GMT -5
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Post by hitseeker. on Aug 12, 2013 14:39:13 GMT -5
1. Katy Perry - Roar 1.0000 2. Robin Thicke - Blurred Lines (feat. T.I. & Pharrell) 0.4924
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 12, 2013 14:40:12 GMT -5
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Aug 12, 2013 14:53:45 GMT -5
I'm here for Katy outpeaking and outliving that try hard mess that is Applause.
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Post by icefire9 on Aug 12, 2013 15:10:30 GMT -5
I can hardly believe this is actually happening. Katy and Gaga releasing on the same day? I'm gonna go get some popcorn.
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Post by bibliotheque on Aug 12, 2013 15:14:19 GMT -5
While "Applause" may not go the way of "Judas," most evidence supports that "Roar" will outlive "Applause" in the long run. "Roar" is much more radio-friendly. It's very "middle-of-the-road," meaning that it can be safely played on the radio without being too "harsh" or "polarizing" to make a listener tune out. That alone means hot AC and AC will be all over it. Hot AC leaning pop stations will eat it up as well. "Roar" also has a meaning everyone can relate to. "Applause" is far less accessible. AC won't be dying to send it into their top 10 and hot AC won't be nearly as ready to hop onto it as they will with "Roar." Both songs will do well, but at this point, it is safe to assume "Roar" will most likely be the larger hit have more spins, even if it is just slightly. ok
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Post by r.enato on Aug 12, 2013 15:23:16 GMT -5
^ Great arguments.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 12, 2013 16:06:13 GMT -5
While "Applause" may not go the way of "Judas," most evidence supports that "Roar" will outlive "Applause" in the long run. "Roar" is much more radio-friendly. It's very "middle-of-the-road," meaning that it can be safely played on the radio without being too "harsh" or "polarizing" to make a listener tune out. That alone means hot AC and AC will be all over it. Hot AC leaning pop stations will eat it up as well. "Roar" also has a meaning everyone can relate to. "Applause" is far less accessible. AC won't be dying to send it into their top 10 and hot AC won't be nearly as ready to hop onto it as they will with "Roar." Both songs will do well, but at this point, it is safe to assume "Roar" will most likely be the larger hit have more spins, even if it is just slightly. ok Well as long as we're in agreement.
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Post by ericcase on Aug 12, 2013 16:22:45 GMT -5
Sorry Katy Kats (Real Cats suck BTW)
While I'm a fan of Katy, Applause just outshines Roar in today's Top 40 music landscape. Sure Katy will do better at Hot AC but, this isn't that forum & that's not why were all here.
Just know that Gaga's talent out does Katy's everyday of the week & today with "Applause" we are witnesses to that hard fact yet once more.
ROAR GAGA
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Post by r.enato on Aug 12, 2013 16:23:56 GMT -5
Sorry Katy Kats (Real Cats suck BTW) While I'm a fan of Katy, Applause just outshines Roar in today's Top 40 music landscape. Sure Katy will do better at Hot AC but, this isn't that forum & that's not why were all here. Just know that Gaga's talent out does Katy's everyday of the week & today with "Applause" we are witnesses to that hard fact yet once more. ROAR GAGA ok
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2013 16:26:29 GMT -5
Was that really necessary?
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 12, 2013 16:27:41 GMT -5
Sorry Katy Kats (Real Cats suck BTW) While I'm a fan of Katy, Applause just outshines Roar in today's Top 40 music landscape. Sure Katy will do better at Hot AC but, this isn't that forum & that's not why were all here. Just know that Gaga's talent out does Katy's everyday of the week & today with "Applause" we are witnesses to that hard fact yet once more. ROAR GAGA What meds are you on, jw?
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 12, 2013 16:28:02 GMT -5
Sorry Katy Kats (Real Cats suck BTW) While I'm a fan of Katy, Applause just outshines Roar in today's Top 40 music landscape. Sure Katy will do better at Hot AC but, this isn't that forum & that's not why were all here. Just know that Gaga's talent out does Katy's everyday of the week & today with "Applause" we are witnesses to that hard fact yet once more. ROAR GAGA
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Post by Legenderry on Aug 12, 2013 16:31:00 GMT -5
Sorry Katy Kats (Real Cats suck BTW) While I'm a fan of Katy, Applause just outshines Roar in today's Top 40 music landscape. Sure Katy will do better at Hot AC but, this isn't that forum & that's not why were all here. Just know that Gaga's talent out does Katy's everyday of the week & today with "Applause" we are witnesses to that hard fact yet once more. ROAR GAGA Generic.
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Post by Khia on Aug 12, 2013 16:32:08 GMT -5
Sorry Katy Kats (Real Cats suck BTW) While I'm a fan of Katy, Applause just outshines Roar in today's Top 40 music landscape. Sure Katy will do better at Hot AC but, this isn't that forum & that's not why were all here. Just know that Gaga's talent out does Katy's everyday of the week & today with "Applause" we are witnesses to that hard fact yet once more. ROAR GAGA Reductive.
We'll see.
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Post by Legenderry on Aug 12, 2013 17:08:48 GMT -5
#1 iTunes in 32 countries now.
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Post by Tea-why on Aug 12, 2013 17:15:04 GMT -5
or maybe *gasp* both songs will do well!! It's not like they're similar in any way.
"Roar" is a grower for me, but all of her songs are at first and I wind up really liking them in the long run (even "Thinking of You" - which is a nice song)
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Post by Gold Soundz on Aug 12, 2013 17:15:17 GMT -5
Sorry Katy Kats (Real Cats suck BTW) While I'm a fan of Katy, Applause just outshines Roar in today's Top 40 music landscape. Sure Katy will do better at Hot AC but, this isn't that forum & that's not why were all here. Just know that Gaga's talent out does Katy's everyday of the week & today with "Applause" we are witnesses to that hard fact yet once more. ROAR GAGA I also dislike real cats (unless there's an epipen on hand), but
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2013 17:23:56 GMT -5
holy shit, when did BILLY SHEARS re-enter the building?! If it was just to comment on this song then "Roar" is already a blazing success in my book (and also I agree exactly with what he said re: her second singles being >>>>> than her first)
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Post by Rumors on Aug 12, 2013 18:05:55 GMT -5
My review of Roar after one listen - short and sweet.
The music and production in the chorus is great. The lyrics - very simple - will appeal to teenage girls but beyond that....
Not my favorite Katy song but it's not my least favorite either. I'm sure it will be a megahit for her but I'll pass.
Looks like Lady's Gaga's song is out today, too. On my way to give that one a listen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2013 18:12:32 GMT -5
Sorry Katy Kats (Real Cats suck BTW) While I'm a fan of Katy, Applause just outshines Roar in today's Top 40 music landscape. Sure Katy will do better at Hot AC but, this isn't that forum & that's not why were all here. Just know that Gaga's talent out does Katy's everyday of the week & today with "Applause" we are witnesses to that hard fact yet once more. ROAR GAGA And you wonder why you guys are called "Monsters" ... Meow. lol it's only just begun. #Mess #SaveusBeysus I'm excited to see the "Roar" video. Wonder when it's being released?
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Post by Rumors on Aug 12, 2013 18:14:16 GMT -5
Teenage Dream is EPIC. It never gets old. I cruise to it every summer with the windows down. I agree. Her other songs range from really dumb to pop radio candy but nothing comes close to Teenage Dream. Yeah, Teenage Dream is the song that made me take notice of Katy....moved a little beyond the cutesy pop star that all the girls idolized.
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Post by RadioBeatz on Aug 12, 2013 18:23:08 GMT -5
I predict this will be HUGE at Hot AC/Adult Pop. A juggernaut. Go Katy and snatch M5's #1s record!
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Post by Rumors on Aug 12, 2013 18:25:35 GMT -5
First off, I don't own any music by Katy Perry or Lady Gaga. I'm a casual fan of both artists.
Katy's best song to date - Teenage Dream Lady Gaga's best song to date - Bad Romance
Roar versus Applause I have to go with Applause by a long shot. I'm a rock and roll chic but I LOVE Applause. I am really impressed! If the rest of the album follows suit I can see a really, really big album coming up with a lot of critical acclaim. Katy will do really well to because she is going to eat up radio over the next year but song for song....Applause. Best song I've heard in awhile....
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Post by Legenderry on Aug 12, 2013 18:26:20 GMT -5
#1 on iTunes in 34 countries.
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Post by josh on Aug 12, 2013 18:27:29 GMT -5
35 HAC adds, most added. ETA: 0 AC adds, but not surprising. They're slow to everything. Probably don't even know she has a new single yet.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 12, 2013 19:13:05 GMT -5
^What kind of bad writing...
ETA: omfg whoooops to be clear, I was referring to a post that contained a really stiff, badly written article. That post has now been deleted, so it looks like I'm referring TheUnionForever's post. Which I was not.
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