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Post by layne on Apr 17, 2014 22:58:35 GMT -5
You know, I kind of feel like The Band Perry is in the same rut as Lady A as far as loss of momentum. I mean, their Album isn't flying off the shelves and outside of the lead single this era, none of the other singles have been huge digital sellers like they have had in the past. I agree about The Band Perry--I know they just won Vocal Group at the ACM's for their first such award, but their momentum loss is noticeable as well. "Chainsaw" is doing just fine--quite well for a 4th single actually--but even though their singles have all been big hits, they just haven't sold as well, and their debut album has sold about 3x as much as their current album. Their loss of momentum isn't nearly as noticeable as Lady A's (or ZBB's) is, but it's still noticeable, imo. I disagree about "And The Radio Played" though. Maybe it wouldn't be a huge seller but I think radio would gobble it up. I have rarely felt so certain about anything. If radio likes a song they will make it big, and that song glorifies radio and country music. I think a good comparison is Mark Wills' "19 Somethin'". His song didn't name-drop country songs, but it still chronicled the decades a bit just as ATRP does. "19 Somethin'" did it with events/trends whereas "And The Radio Played" does it with country music hits of the times. Plus ATRP is just super good and super radio-friendly as well. "Compass" itself wasn't a huge seller by their standards but it still did just fine at radio, and I think ATRP would do at least as good as "Compass" did, if not better. I love ATRP as much as you, and agree on the Mark Wills song but still it was in another "era". I think Radio would play the song much like Darius Rucker's last single "Radio" but everyone knows that the only reason it got played was because of the Title. The song didn't sell and quite frankly it wasn't a hit at all in reality. The lyric Video for ATRP barley has 150,000 views. I just don't feel like the song is a hit in today's country market. I wish they would release it so we could all sit back and watch and see what happens though.
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Post by Marv on Apr 17, 2014 23:35:44 GMT -5
Lady Antebellum finished a very respectable 12th among the format's most played artists last year, right behind FGL and right in front of Taylor Swift, and they edged The Band Perry, who finish in 14th places, by some 22,300 spins
I'm also somewhat surprised that another single from 'Compass' hasn't been announced, but the labels have to balance when to stop releasing singles from a CD against the expenses incurred in doing so, as well as how many more CDs would a fourth (or even more) singles sell of the CD at issue.
Heck, the folks on Carriefans were just as incensed about not getting a 5th single from either of her two most recent CDs as I was, but stuff happens, ya know?
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Post by joey2002 on Apr 18, 2014 1:18:01 GMT -5
I agree that it's such a shame to leave songs like "All For Love" and "Better Off Now" as album tracks. From top-to-bottom, I absolutely love Golden, so it's pretty disappointing to only see a couple songs get released as singles. "And The Radio Played" is an incredibly catchy radio-friendly tune, and I think it would easily at least be a top 5 hit. I'm shocked that they aren't releasing such an epic gem of a song.
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Post by matty005 on Apr 18, 2014 5:49:41 GMT -5
Not even 1 full year into its release and the era is pretty much over? Yikes. No kidding. Plus that included a release bonus edition CD. Way too many good songs left unreleased.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Apr 18, 2014 7:39:50 GMT -5
Not even 1 full year into its release and the era is pretty much over? Yikes. I wouldn't quite put the blame on the trio yet. Their label's been quicker than normal releasing new albums and I made a claim earlier in this thread that the main reason why the whole Golden era under-performed was due to "Goodbye Town" not doing as well as expected (there were much better songs on the album that could've been second single imo) and rush-releasing "Compass" to make up for it. Stopping there is dumber than simply making a bonehead mood. Maybe they should find another management company to represent them?
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Post by rsmatto on Apr 18, 2014 8:50:17 GMT -5
Their debut is still my favorite CD from them, but I definitely agree that this era just feels so wrong. I know that for a group like Lady A it can be a tough radio market but I don't feel like their music is *that* far removed from The Band Perry, and TBP is still doing fine. I really, really wish they'd released Better Off Now - that's one album track that will probably never sit well with me staying an album track. I'm not nearly as in love with And the Radio Played as y'all are (I actually don't really like it all that much), but it still feels so strange that the era just ... ended. You know, I kind of feel like The Band Perry is in the same rut as Lady A as far as loss of momentum. I mean, their Album isn't flying off the shelves and outside of the lead single this era, none of the other singles have been huge digital sellers like they have had in the past. Albums not flying off the shelves? Except for a few artists, 500K+ IS flying off the shelves. "Pioneer" is at 548k this week and Golden is 601k. GOLD is a very good result for any year, especially now. There is not momentum lost at least as far as album sales go. Sure both bands have hit Platinum (or better) with previous albums but to think that any band can sustain such lofty results year after year is really asking for too much. As far as digital sales go, "Compass" is over 500k. Again, it's not the platinum/multi-platinum success of songs like "Need You Now" but then, that's a career song. To expect them to sustain that (or The Band Perry too) to score huge hit after huge hit digitally is perhaps asking for a little too much. 500k for a single is still damn good and like my album sales comments, outside of a couple top stars (Luke, FGL, Jason, Carrie), There aren't MANY acts who can sustain massive sales success with single after single. It's just damn hard to do. Plus some songs, which sound GREAT on the radio, aren't exactly the kinds of songs that make people wanna go 'hey, I should buy that.' But they may stream the hell out of it and that's the new world model that actually we're all adjusting to (and why the 'Mongrel' chart exists. It'd be surprising if Lady A ended this album cycle w/o one more single ("And The Radio Played" being the biggest candidate).
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Post by layne on Apr 18, 2014 9:43:34 GMT -5
You know, I kind of feel like The Band Perry is in the same rut as Lady A as far as loss of momentum. I mean, their Album isn't flying off the shelves and outside of the lead single this era, none of the other singles have been huge digital sellers like they have had in the past. Albums not flying off the shelves? Except for a few artists, 500K+ IS flying off the shelves. "Pioneer" is at 548k this week and Golden is 601k. GOLD is a very good result for any year, especially now. There is not momentum lost at least as far as album sales go. Sure both bands have hit Platinum (or better) with previous albums but to think that any band can sustain such lofty results year after year is really asking for too much. As far as digital sales go, "Compass" is over 500k. Again, it's not the platinum/multi-platinum success of songs like "Need You Now" but then, that's a career song. To expect them to sustain that (or The Band Perry too) to score huge hit after huge hit digitally is perhaps asking for a little too much. 500k for a single is still damn good and like my album sales comments, outside of a couple top stars (Luke, FGL, Jason, Carrie), There aren't MANY acts who can sustain massive sales success with single after single. It's just damn hard to do. Plus some songs, which sound GREAT on the radio, aren't exactly the kinds of songs that make people wanna go 'hey, I should buy that.' But they may stream the hell out of it and that's the new world model that actually we're all adjusting to (and why the 'Mongrel' chart exists. It'd be surprising if Lady A ended this album cycle w/o one more single ("And The Radio Played" being the biggest candidate). The sales aren't terrible by any means but by both bands standards they are simply not performing at the level I think either of them expected to. You can spin it any way you want but Lady A was once considered as big as Luke, Fla-Ga line, Carrie. To drop off the way they have from having singles that sell platinum and songs that have no trouble getting to #1 is a pretty big loss of momentum. They aren't even coming close to selling out their tour stops. I hope you are correct and we see another single released from this Album.
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Post by countrymusic20 on Apr 18, 2014 9:44:34 GMT -5
Not even 1 full year into its release and the era is pretty much over? Yikes. I wouldn't quite put the blame on the trio yet. Their label's been quicker than normal releasing new albums and I made a claim earlier in this thread that the main reason why the whole Golden era under-performed was due to "Goodbye Town" not doing as well as expected (there were much better songs on the album that could've been second single imo) and rush-releasing "Compass" to make up for it. Stopping there is dumber than simply making a bonehead mood. Maybe they should find another management company to represent them? Goodbye Town was a bad single choice. When it struggled at radio, the label panicked. If they had released the right singles in the right order there would have been no problems. IMO it should have been Downtown, It Ain't Pretty, Better Off Now, Golden. Then there would have been no need for a "deluxe package" panic. They could have saved Compass for the new record. The next single will be off the brand new record they are recording right now ... June or July radio release.
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Post by layne on Apr 18, 2014 9:46:28 GMT -5
^It Ain't Pretty is a great song but IMO it would have flopped just as bad as Goodbye Town at Radio.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 10:46:42 GMT -5
You know, I kind of feel like The Band Perry is in the same rut as Lady A as far as loss of momentum. I mean, their Album isn't flying off the shelves and outside of the lead single this era, none of the other singles have been huge digital sellers like they have had in the past. Albums not flying off the shelves? Except for a few artists, 500K+ IS flying off the shelves. "Pioneer" is at 548k this week and Golden is 601k. GOLD is a very good result for any year, especially now. There is not momentum lost at least as far as album sales go. Sure both bands have hit Platinum (or better) with previous albums but to think that any band can sustain such lofty results year after year is really asking for too much. As far as digital sales go, "Compass" is over 500k. Again, it's not the platinum/multi-platinum success of songs like "Need You Now" but then, that's a career song. To expect them to sustain that (or The Band Perry too) to score huge hit after huge hit digitally is perhaps asking for a little too much. 500k for a single is still damn good and like my album sales comments, outside of a couple top stars (Luke, FGL, Jason, Carrie), There aren't MANY acts who can sustain massive sales success with single after single. It's just damn hard to do. Plus some songs, which sound GREAT on the radio, aren't exactly the kinds of songs that make people wanna go 'hey, I should buy that.' But they may stream the hell out of it and that's the new world model that actually we're all adjusting to (and why the 'Mongrel' chart exists. It'd be surprising if Lady A ended this album cycle w/o one more single ("And The Radio Played" being the biggest candidate). I agree and disagree with this. It is unfair to expect every act to sustain massive momentum; comparing every single's success to NYN is obviously unrealistic. However, considering Lady A has been around less than 10 years and has seen such a sharp decline from just 5 years ago, this seems like a bigger decline than one might expect. A gradual decline is one thing, but such a sharp decline in one era on all fronts seems like it could spell trouble. On the other hand, Lady A's only real "competition" when for a few years was Rascal Flatts, and there was a need for some new blood on the group/duo front. Now, they've got FGL, TBP, LBT and Eli Young Band to contend with. Throw in Luke, Blake, Carrie and Taylor, and they are basically lost in the shuffle. The loss momentum at radio is making matters worse, because lack of visibility/momentum there determines digital album/sales in a big way, too. Wrong single choices equaled a loss of momentum, which means a loss in visibility and potential digital/album sales. They could still come back with the right single, but the whole era hurt them even more than they were already hurting. They've got to make big changes if they want to keep up nowadays.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Apr 18, 2014 21:43:18 GMT -5
Not releasing "And the Radio Played" is a huge missed opportunity. If "Compass" hadn't done well, then that would be understandable, but when you've got your momentum back and you've got a practically guaranteed radio smash ("And the Radio Played") then why the heck would you not release it if the album is still so young? I'll admit I'm not a big fan of the album and would rather have them move on rather than release anything other than ATRP, but that song would be a big hit.
I wouldn't complain though if they released a lead single soon that went on Lady Antebellum 2.0 because that fantastic album is the reason I'm still a fan of theirs even after 3 subsequent disappointing releases.
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Post by Marv on Apr 18, 2014 23:16:43 GMT -5
Cody's Realization--I certainly see your point, but if I were going to indict anybody or any entity for 'Goodbye Town' peaking at #11 on the Country Aircheck/Mediabase chart dated 9-9-13, I'd simultaneously tee off on both country radio as well as the 'bro-country' disease currently overwhelming and infesting the format.
For the overwhelming evidence, simply look no farther than the three musical train wrecks immediately above 'Goodbye Town' on that chart; 'Parking Lot Party', 'It Goes Like This', and the beyond excruciating Music Row Songwriter Hall-Of-Shame charter member and undisputed super-stinker known as 'That's My Kind Of Night'.
I was also infuriated (and boy did I light up this board when I did so!) when the deluxe Edition of 'Golden' including 'Compass' was rush-released, since I've always considered re-releases to be undisputed and 100% ripoffs which reek of greed and nothing else.
Look no farther than Usher, who was demolished on the front page of Billboard for his re-release of a CD (Confessions) which had already sold Six Point Five Million Copies, a beyond asinine marketing move which resulted in numerous execs from other labels utilizing language that would have made Al Pacino blush.
'Compass' should have indeed been held for their next CD IMHO as previously stated by myself and numerous others; such episodes have always left a really bad taste in my mouth, and the ensuing avalanche of ridicule and criticism which followed was certainly predictable and deserved, since alienating your fanbase over having to spend $10-$12 again at their local Target or Best Buy store which is downright unconscionable something that no country artist, and certainly a superstar-level act such as Lady Antebellum could have very easily avoided, having built up a ton of goodwill for their fans as well as country radio over the course of the past six-plus years.
Besides, a #11 peak for 'Goodbye Town' certainly wouldn't compel Nashville's #1 country label airplay-wise for five straight years to 'panic' under any circumstances as someone previously, an opinion that I'd have to respectfully disagree with.
Any hour of music on any country station featuring 'songs which peaked at #11' would also include standouts such as 'Tell Me Something Bad About Tulsa', "I Wonder', 'The Seashores Of Old Mexico' and lots of other standout tunes would still make for compelling radio IMHO.
As far as i can tell, their only move right now would be to release two more singles from 'Golden' and then a new single and CD next year; Capitol Nashville certainly didn't have to spend more $$$ on a pointless re-release, so whatever financial headaches they're in on account of this episode of greed is their own fault; consumer loyalty and trust is extremely hard to come by, but very easy to destroy, which many of us are already well aware of.
Hopefully no other country format superstar will ever do this again.
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Post by Rumors on Apr 19, 2014 16:28:30 GMT -5
I have to agree with Brian to a degree. This album wasn't as successful as prior albums because the songs I heard (singles only) were dull. Been there done that sound before. And boy do I agree with Marv on re-issuing successful albums by any artists. It's a cash grab pure and simple. Leave that to the pop starlets.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Apr 19, 2014 17:10:00 GMT -5
I actually think the singles from 'Golden' were miles better than the singles from 'Own the Night'. Now that album's singles were boring and bland. (Actually, that whole album was.) I do think Lady A needs to re-invent themselves to a degree on their next project, because too much of their last 2-3 albums have sounded the same. 'Golden' was a step in the right direction, but they need to push themselves even further. I quite enjoyed "Downtown," "Goodbye Town" and "Compass," but none of their recent material compares, for me, to some of the material from their debut: "Love Don't Live Here," "Long Gone," "Love's Lookin' Good on You," "Slow Down Sister," etc.
I'm surprised how quickly they ran through this album era, and it looks like they're planning to get a new album out sooner rather than later - they've been posting pictures on instagram lately of them in the studio tracking new songs. If they're planning to get a new album out by the end of this year, I would agree with ending the 'Golden' era singles here and giving radio a break before their next lead single.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 20, 2014 0:55:02 GMT -5
Disappointed they're already moving on from Golden as it's easily my favorite record they've put out, and so many great songs are going to go unreleased, especially the obvious smash that is "And the Radio Played." I just hope their new album sticks with a similar sound that they captured with Golden and that they don't take the slump in success as a key to revert back to the blandness of Own the Night.
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Post by tim on Apr 20, 2014 1:18:28 GMT -5
I find most of Lady Antebellum's singles bland and boring. "Goodbye Town" and this were so boring I had to change the station every time it came on in fear of falling asleep. Don't get me started about the snoozers "Dancin' Away with My Heart" and "Wanted You More". I actually forgot about them and had to refresh my memory and re-listen to them again. ZZZZZZ Wow, well I found all of the above mentioned songs on the other spectrum of the snooze button. "Goodbye Town" is/was amazing and I blame the current state of country radio for its failure...it will go down as one of my favorite Lady A songs in their repertoire; "Dancin' Away With My Heart" is one of those easy listens that gets you swaying and singing along. I honestly forgot that "Wanted You More" peaked at #20, but still overall a good effort by Lady A.
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Post by Marv on Apr 20, 2014 2:11:08 GMT -5
My three favorite tunes of theirs remains 'Hello World', 'Looking For A Good Time' and 'Goodbye Town', and the mesmerizing video for 'Hello World' remains a total standout IMHO.
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Post by someguy on Apr 20, 2014 17:59:52 GMT -5
I was also infuriated (and boy did I light up this board when I did so!) when the deluxe Edition of 'Golden' including 'Compass' was rush-released, since I've always considered re-releases to be undisputed and 100% ripoffs which reek of greed and nothing else. Look no farther than Usher, who was demolished on the front page of Billboard for his re-release of a CD (Confessions) which had already sold Six Point Five Million Copies, a beyond asinine marketing move which resulted in numerous execs from other labels utilizing language that would have made Al Pacino blush. 'Compass' should have indeed been held for their next CD IMHO as previously stated by myself and numerous others; such episodes have always left a really bad taste in my mouth, and the ensuing avalanche of ridicule and criticism which followed was certainly predictable and deserved, since alienating your fanbase over having to spend $10-$12 again at their local Target or Best Buy store which is downright unconscionable something that no country artist, and certainly a superstar-level act such as Lady Antebellum could have very easily avoided, having built up a ton of goodwill for their fans as well as country radio over the course of the past six-plus years. As far as i can tell, their only move right now would be to release two more singles from 'Golden' and then a new single and CD next year; Capitol Nashville certainly didn't have to spend more $$$ on a pointless re-release, so whatever financial headaches they're in on account of this episode of greed is their own fault; consumer loyalty and trust is extremely hard to come by, but very easy to destroy, which many of us are already well aware of. Hopefully no other country format superstar will ever do this again. I agree with this completely. Re-releasing albums is such a shady cash grab, and this is one of the worst cases of it I've ever seen. To re-release an album after only a few months by a major artist is a pretty big slap in the face to some of their big fans. I know I'll think twice about buying another Lady Antebellum album in the future. There is no reason why "Compass" couldn't have been held onto for their next album. They had plenty of radio ready songs on their album, most notably "Better Off Now", to push as the third single.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 18:32:58 GMT -5
I was also infuriated (and boy did I light up this board when I did so!) when the deluxe Edition of 'Golden' including 'Compass' was rush-released, since I've always considered re-releases to be undisputed and 100% ripoffs which reek of greed and nothing else. Look no farther than Usher, who was demolished on the front page of Billboard for his re-release of a CD (Confessions) which had already sold Six Point Five Million Copies, a beyond asinine marketing move which resulted in numerous execs from other labels utilizing language that would have made Al Pacino blush. 'Compass' should have indeed been held for their next CD IMHO as previously stated by myself and numerous others; such episodes have always left a really bad taste in my mouth, and the ensuing avalanche of ridicule and criticism which followed was certainly predictable and deserved, since alienating your fanbase over having to spend $10-$12 again at their local Target or Best Buy store which is downright unconscionable something that no country artist, and certainly a superstar-level act such as Lady Antebellum could have very easily avoided, having built up a ton of goodwill for their fans as well as country radio over the course of the past six-plus years. As far as i can tell, their only move right now would be to release two more singles from 'Golden' and then a new single and CD next year; Capitol Nashville certainly didn't have to spend more $$$ on a pointless re-release, so whatever financial headaches they're in on account of this episode of greed is their own fault; consumer loyalty and trust is extremely hard to come by, but very easy to destroy, which many of us are already well aware of. Hopefully no other country format superstar will ever do this again. I agree with this completely. Re-releasing albums is such a shady cash grab, and this is one of the worst cases of it I've ever seen. To re-release an album after only a few months by a major artist is a pretty big slap in the face to some of their big fans. I know I'll think twice about buying another Lady Antebellum album in the future. There is no reason why "Compass" couldn't have been held onto for their next album. They had plenty of radio ready songs on their album, most notably "Better Off Now", to push as the third single. While I agree that this was a horrid move, shouldn't 't most of the blame be on the shoulders of the label/management rather than the artist? Granted, it Lady A's album, but I don't think any artist would have enough power to overcome the wishes of the label, especially with contracts and/or the bottom line being the most important aspect.
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Post by someguy on Apr 20, 2014 18:34:31 GMT -5
I agree with this completely. Re-releasing albums is such a shady cash grab, and this is one of the worst cases of it I've ever seen. To re-release an album after only a few months by a major artist is a pretty big slap in the face to some of their big fans. I know I'll think twice about buying another Lady Antebellum album in the future. There is no reason why "Compass" couldn't have been held onto for their next album. They had plenty of radio ready songs on their album, most notably "Better Off Now", to push as the third single. While I agree that this was a horrid move, shouldn't 't most of the blame be on the shoulders of the label/management rather than the artist? Granted, it Lady A's album, but I don't think any artist would have enough power to overcome the wishes of the label, especially with contracts and/or the bottom being the most important aspect. Yeah, definitely the blame lies more with the label than with them. But I wouldn't be so quick to buy an album from them, in case the same thing happened again.
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Post by cmc78 on Apr 24, 2014 9:53:07 GMT -5
I am disappointed that it appears the Golden era is done after only 3 singles. They completely wasted And The Radio Played. I listened to a radio interview with Hillary back at the end of February and she said they were working on new stuff, they were writing songs and in the studio some on their days off from the road but she also said they were taking their time and no date has been put on anything cause they are touring Golden through the Summer. If their label is pushing for new stuff already, I'm really hoping earliest for a new single is the fall and album next yr. Just seems like the whole Golden era was mishandled by their team. And someone mentioned them changing management. They left Borman Entertainment end of last year and I noticed also they changed producers from Paul Worley to Nathan Chapman. Nathan produced the 3 new tracks on Deluxe and is working with them on their new stuff. Not sure if y'all saw this but it is a sneak into what they've been working on and I'll definitely need to hear more before making judgement on it although I'm not too fond of what little I'm hearing. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUOR57qVze4&feature=youtu.be
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Post by cmc78 on Apr 24, 2014 10:14:18 GMT -5
On the touring front since someone mentioned not selling out shows, I noticed when they first released initial tour schedule for fall of 2013 for 1st leg and 2014 2nd leg, they had Madison Square Garden and Staples Center. However, when they moved all dates to 2014, they kept some of the same stops but also changed some venues or either took some cities off all together. Like Staples Center which they sold out in 2012 and Madison Square Garden were removed all together. Then they also became part of a MegaTicket. It was rumored why they moved stuff around was to low ticket sales, a few stops on this yr have been sell outs, but there have been many that I've read reviews about and they were not sold out, playing for 8 or 9k and having to close off upper levels. I've seen many people talk about having their seats upgraded for free.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 11:04:48 GMT -5
On the touring front since someone mentioned not selling out shows, I noticed when they first released initial tour schedule for fall of 2013 for 1st leg and 2014 2nd leg, they had Madison Square Garden and Staples Center. However, when they moved all dates to 2014, they kept some of the same stops but also changed some venues or either took some cities off all together. Like Staples Center which they sold out in 2012 and Madison Square Garden were removed all together. Then they also became part of a MegaTicket. It was rumored why they moved stuff around was to low ticket sales, a few stops on this yr have been sell outs, but there have been many that I've read reviews about and they were not sold out, playing for 8 or 9k and having to close off upper levels. I've seen many people talk about having their seats upgraded for free. The rumors of low ticket sales/downsizing venues was mentioned here when Nashville Becca reported it before it was official news a few months back :) Such a sharp drop in ticket sales almost seems to indicate their lack of momentum at radio/wrong single choices has hurt overall interest in a big way. Usually, die-hard fans will stick with an act through peaks and valleys; if the rumors of them being a lackluster live act are true, people are going to be less likely to see them and come back again. While I don't doubt they could come back with the right single, all of this has me wondering if they were on fragile ground all along. Casual fans might help propel album sales, but if Lady A has more casual interest than a long-term fanbase they can rely on when causal fans aren't interested, that will probably be much worse in the long run.
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Post by cmc78 on Apr 24, 2014 12:31:27 GMT -5
On the touring front since someone mentioned not selling out shows, I noticed when they first released initial tour schedule for fall of 2013 for 1st leg and 2014 2nd leg, they had Madison Square Garden and Staples Center. However, when they moved all dates to 2014, they kept some of the same stops but also changed some venues or either took some cities off all together. Like Staples Center which they sold out in 2012 and Madison Square Garden were removed all together. Then they also became part of a MegaTicket. It was rumored why they moved stuff around was to low ticket sales, a few stops on this yr have been sell outs, but there have been many that I've read reviews about and they were not sold out, playing for 8 or 9k and having to close off upper levels. I've seen many people talk about having their seats upgraded for free. The rumors of low ticket sales/downsizing venues was mentioned here when Nashville Becca reported it before it was official news a few months back :) Such a sharp drop in ticket sales almost seems to indicate their lack of momentum at radio/wrong single choices has hurt overall interest in a big way. Usually, die-hard fans will stick with an act through peaks and valleys; if the rumors of them being a lackluster live act are true, people are going to be less likely to see them and come back again. While I don't doubt they could come back with the right single, all of this has me wondering if they were on fragile ground all along. Casual fans might help propel album sales, but if Lady A has more casual interest than a long-term fanbase they can rely on when causal fans aren't interested, that will probably be much worse in the long run. I have heard that the current tour compared to 2012 is much more upbeat all 3 are more involved in the show. I'm not sure rushing a new album is going to solve whatever issue is going on either, plus what they previewed sounds nothing like something they'd sing. Maybe they are hoping to draw in a new group of fans.
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Post by cmc78 on Apr 24, 2014 19:53:28 GMT -5
Charles gets on my nerves, never fails when he gives an interview lately he complains about the time they had to take off for Hillary to have her baby. "it was so hard for him" They weren't even away that long. Crossroads aired during the time off, plus they were back in studio in early September working on Compass, etc, and back making appearances in Oct and haven't stopped since. He also likes to say in interviews and live shows how they pushed tour to 2014 to give Hillary more time at home when it was lack of ticket sales. Lack of album sales and tickets isn't a Hillary problem. He acts like they were away for 2 yrs, it was like 3 months.
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Post by mylifeback on Apr 24, 2014 20:04:42 GMT -5
I absolutely loved the 2012 Lady A concert I went to; loved the staging & thought they were really fantastic live. One of the most favorite concerts I've seen in the last few years and I definitely thought I got my money's worth.
It's too bad if this is the close of the Golden era, there are some great songs left on the album.
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Post by BlueShades874 on Apr 24, 2014 20:23:30 GMT -5
I can not believe that Better Off Now (That You're Gone) isn't going to be a single. When I first listened to the entire cd I thought for sure that song would be released and be a huge hit. To me, that is the type of song they absolutely need to release to radio. High energy, upbeat and fun, it would be perfect for the radio over the next several months. I'm such a huge fan of this group, but they've had so many huge hits go unreleased, and I hate to see Better Off Now become another one of those.
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Post by cmc78 on May 5, 2014 23:01:45 GMT -5
So country radio is hearing their new single this wk apparently. Charles tweeted something bout it making you want to dance. Charles had talked how uptempo the music will be on this album etc. I'm not sure what to think. One Golden Era ended way to soon, they wasted some good songs and two I just have this fear of them going so far out of the box with this album its just going to backfire.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 6, 2014 17:56:58 GMT -5
I just hope Capitol and Lady Antebellum manage the upcoming era better than what they did during Golden. I am definitely with Marv and will say if they reissue the CD with new songs, you can kiss Lady A goodbye.
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Post by cmc78 on May 6, 2014 19:45:28 GMT -5
I don't see them doing something like that again. I think the only reason they did it was to push Compass and get Golden to be certified Gold. They wasted And The Radio Played. I still don't understand why they ended the Golden era after one year and only 3 singles, 2 of which went #1. They could have released at least one more song from it since touring that album through first week of September. I'm worried about this next album,even with just that minute teaser they gave. I don't want them to go so far away from who they are trying to bring in new fans and boost sales. Nashville Becca said she's hearing their new single tomorrow and interviewing them, so I'm interested to see what she has to say about the song.
I've been a fan of theirs since the beginning and I could be way off, but without a crossover hit, I just don't know if they are going to have big album sales again. I don't know the exact numbers but iirc, the only country albums released in 2013 that went platinum were Luke and Blake and weren't Lady A's pretty much right there with TBP, Tim, George, Darius, Keith etc?
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