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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 8:06:58 GMT -5
Kinda shows how weak the cutoff for 2019 is. A song like This Is It or Walk Me Home wouldn't have even made the top 110 in most other years. This Is It and Talk You Out of It DIDN'T make Top 110 in my chart (all scenario), and Walk Me Home just barely didn't made it (in 1 or 2 scenario). This goes to show how stupid my formula is. No worries you did fine. Pretty much no one has This Is It making the 2019 year end list anyways minus fhas/rimetm and I. Walk Me Home and Talk You Out Of It however seems to be more divisive amongst all the predictors on whether or not they will make it. |
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Nov 16, 2019 8:24:58 GMT -5
a damn shame that Truth Hurts and SeΓ±orita blew up a little too late to be included onto the decade-year end list, although they are guaranteed to place somewhere on the all-time list right? also, am I the only shocked Happier landed in the Top 40, meanwhile Hotline Bling is only at #92? Truth Hurts and Senorita didn't blew up little too late, Billboard was 2 months early with this list. |
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Post by Abbaschand on Nov 16, 2019 8:35:41 GMT -5
This Is It and Talk You Out of It DIDN'T make Top 110 in my chart (all scenario), and Walk Me Home just barely didn't made it (in 1 or 2 scenario). This goes to show how stupid my formula is. No worries you did fine. Pretty much no one has This Is It making the 2019 year end list anyways minus fhas/rimetm and I. Walk Me Home and Talk You Out Of It however seems to be more divisive amongst all the predictors on whether or not they will make it. Why, thank you! I never heard someone saying I did good about my charts before! |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 16, 2019 8:42:19 GMT -5
I love it: 6 months of song and album speculation for both Adele and Rihanna, that they would drop a single and that would rule the charts...nothing.
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Post by Kris on Nov 16, 2019 11:30:46 GMT -5
Good job Billboard. You somehow ranked We Found Love above Despacito, Rolling in the Deep, Old Town Road and Somebody That I Used to Know. I understand using an inverse system for the all-time charts, but would it really kill you to use the real points to calculate the decade end lists? Well screw it, I finished the top 100 of the 2010 year end superchart, and by the end of the night I should be able to get the full 200 songs. Iβm creating a thread immediately when thatβs over, and Iβll start posting each year end of the decade every weekend until the end of 2019 If you asked me what song was bigger on that list I'd say We Found Love. That song was massive. |
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Post by fhas on Nov 16, 2019 11:44:30 GMT -5
Good job Billboard. You somehow ranked We Found Love above Despacito, Rolling in the Deep, Old Town Road and Somebody That I Used to Know. I understand using an inverse system for the all-time charts, but would it really kill you to use the real points to calculate the decade end lists? Well screw it, I finished the top 100 of the 2010 year end superchart, and by the end of the night I should be able to get the full 200 songs. Iβm creating a thread immediately when thatβs over, and Iβll start posting each year end of the decade every weekend until the end of 2019 We Found Love 2011 Year-End: #69 2012 Year-End: #8 Decade-End: #6
Rolling In The Deep
2011 Year-End: #1 2012 Year-End: #71 Decade-End: #10
It's interesting that both songs competed for #1 against LMFAO (WFL vs. SAIKI / RITD vs. PRA).
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Post by mikerivera on Nov 16, 2019 12:29:03 GMT -5
Iβm not saying We Found Love wasnβt massive. Iβm saying I have a hard time seeing how it was bigger than any of those songs I just listed. Or for that matter, Rockstar ranked higher than We Found Love on both of the year end lists it finished on. Yet We Found Love is the 6th biggest song of the decade, and Rockstar isnβt even in the top 20.
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Post by Lukas on Nov 16, 2019 14:08:45 GMT -5
Iβm not saying We Found Love wasnβt massive. Iβm saying I have a hard time seeing how it was bigger than any of those songs I just listed. Or for that matter, Rockstar ranked higher than We Found Love on both of the year end lists it finished on. Yet We Found Love is the 6th biggest song of the decade, and Rockstar isnβt even in the top 20. Using my real points system, I have them both at around #30. Although Rockstar did better on the year end charts, it charted in an era where the charts were slower than We Found Love did. That should be taken into consideration. |
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Post by tuna on Nov 16, 2019 14:13:51 GMT -5
So Donβt Start Now probably wonβt make this yearβs list, but do you guys think it has enough hit power to be an early lock for 2020?
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Post by mikerivera on Nov 16, 2019 14:14:05 GMT -5
Iβm not saying We Found Love wasnβt massive. Iβm saying I have a hard time seeing how it was bigger than any of those songs I just listed. Or for that matter, Rockstar ranked higher than We Found Love on both of the year end lists it finished on. Yet We Found Love is the 6th biggest song of the decade, and Rockstar isnβt even in the top 20. Using my real points system, I have them both at around #30. Although Rockstar did better on the year end charts, it charted in an era where the charts were slower than We Found Love did. That should be taken into consideration. Trust me, I get it. I have them with close to the same points too. Iβm saying I donβt understand why Billboard would have one of them so much higher than the other |
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Post by Lukas on Nov 16, 2019 14:19:19 GMT -5
Good job Billboard. You somehow ranked We Found Love above Despacito, Rolling in the Deep, Old Town Road and Somebody That I Used to Know. I understand using an inverse system for the all-time charts, but would it really kill you to use the real points to calculate the decade end lists? Well screw it, I finished the top 100 of the 2010 year end superchart, and by the end of the night I should be able to get the full 200 songs. Iβm creating a thread immediately when thatβs over, and Iβll start posting each year end of the decade every weekend until the end of 2019 If you asked me what song was bigger on that list I'd say We Found Love. That song was massive. It may feel massive for it to be #6 of the decade, but that doesn't mean it is. Its split for #69 in 2011 and #8 in 2012 would only be enough for #3 on one single year end list. And if you compare its year end performance with a song that is much smaller by perception like Dynamite (#9 2010, #44 2011), it doesn't feel that massive anymore. Not to mention that, I've seen about 5 versions of the decade end list with real points. Despacito, RITD, and STIUTK have been in the top 10 for all of them, while the highest WFL has been on any one is around #20. |
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Post by Lukas on Nov 16, 2019 14:25:28 GMT -5
Using my real points system, I have them both at around #30. Although Rockstar did better on the year end charts, it charted in an era where the charts were slower than We Found Love did. That should be taken into consideration. Trust me, I get it. I have them with close to the same points too. Iβm saying I donβt understand why Billboard would have one of them so much higher than the other I understand what you're saying. The way you worded it felt like you were implying that Rockstar was the bigger hit. |
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Post by aussie1 on Nov 16, 2019 19:44:52 GMT -5
Wasn't WFL's chart run quite impressive for a 2011 song? 10 weeks at #1, 23 weeks in the top ten. Only Party Rock Anthem spent more time in the top 10 that year (29 weeks). WFL, Call me Maybe and Royals are the only other songs to chart for 23 weeks in the top ten from 2010-2013. 23 weeks back in 2011 wasn't as common as it is now. There were 10 songs alone last year to chart for 23 weeks or more in the top ten. To me WFL at #6 isn't as annoying as seeing Girls like you at #5 and all the other 2018-19 songs ranked so high.
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Post by Lukas on Nov 16, 2019 19:54:46 GMT -5
Girls Like You's chart run was also get impressive: 24 weeks in the top 5 and 33 weeks in the top 10. It's the only song in the last two years to do so in the top 5 and one of only two for top 10.
The all time list is designed to give songs with massive chart runs an advantage. This is why both songs are so high on the list.
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Post by n13l5 on Nov 16, 2019 20:39:15 GMT -5
Since we are talking about the biggest hits of the decade, I would like to give some attention to some favorites this decade that did chart on the billboard hot 100, but not long enough to claim a spot on the year end top 100
Here are mine (ranked from favorite to least-but-still-great-favorite)
Kendrick Lamar - King Kunta
M83 - Midnight City
Kendrick Lamar - The Blacker The Berry
Black Keys - Lonely Boy
A Tribe Called Quest - We The People
Black Keys - Gold on the Ceiling
Kendrick Lamar - These Walls
Jay Z & Kanye West - No Church In The Wild
Frank Ocean - Pink + White
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Dark Necessities
Beyonce & The Weeknd - 6 Inch
Bad Meets Evil - Fast Lane
Beyonce & Kendrick Lamar - Freedom
Eminem & Lil Wayne - No Love
Mark Ronson & Miley Cyrus - Nothing Breaks Like A Heart
Kanye West - POWER
Kenye West - Black Skinhead
Adele - Skyfall
Adele - Turning Tables
Robin Schulz & Francesco Yates - Sugar
Beyonce & Jack White- Dont Hurt Yourself
Lorde - Green Light
David Bowie - Blackstar
Arctic Monkeys - Do I Wanna Know
Billie Eilish - Ocean Eyes
Lorde - Yellow Flicker Beat
Childish Gambino - V. 3005
I havent heard ever single song that charted, so im sure there are more that deserve to be remembered
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Post by Dadude#0839 on Nov 16, 2019 21:01:30 GMT -5
So Donβt Start Now probably wonβt make this yearβs list, but do you guys think it has enough hit power to be an early lock for 2020? If it pulls off enough longevity it can |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 21:41:21 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure if On Chill doesn't make the 2019 year end list, it will be caught between years.
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Post by GPMB on Nov 16, 2019 21:56:31 GMT -5
Kinda shows how weak the cutoff for 2019 is. A song like This Is It or Walk Me Home wouldn't have even made the top 110 in most other years. This Is It and Talk You Out of It DIDN'T make Top 110 in my chart (all scenario), and Walk Me Home just barely didn't made it (in 1 or 2 scenario). This goes to show how stupid my formula is. for me, This Is It is #104, Walk Me Home is #107, and TYOOI is #115 |
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Post by Kris on Nov 16, 2019 22:04:32 GMT -5
Wasn't WFL's chart run quite impressive for a 2011 song? 10 weeks at #1, 23 weeks in the top ten. Only Party Rock Anthem spent more time in the top 10 that year (29 weeks). WFL, Call me Maybe and Royals are the only other songs to chart for 23 weeks in the top ten from 2010-2013. 23 weeks back in 2011 wasn't as common as it is now. There were 10 songs alone last year to chart for 23 weeks or more in the top ten. To me WFL at #6 isn't as annoying as seeing Girls like you at #5 and all the other 2018-19 songs ranked so high. Yes. Without the ridiculously long runs songs get now from streaming, 23 weeks was very good. |
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Post by GPMB on Nov 16, 2019 23:55:29 GMT -5
oh no
I'm trying to find 200 songs to fill out a top 200 and the way I'm doing this is I'm calculating points for any song I come across on any Billboard Hot 100 week this year that spent 10 or more weeks in the chart year, then calculating the points of it using my inverse system and if it gets at least 78k (half of what my current projected #100, Eyes on You, has) points then it qualifies for the top 200
but I can't find enough songs that got that many points, even including ones that could reach that threshold within the two coming weeks (Hate Me, Good Vibes, What Happens in a Small Town, Baby Sitter, F.N, Every Little Thing, hot girl bummer, Dance Monkey) so what do I do
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 0:55:01 GMT -5
oh no I'm trying to find 200 songs to fill out a top 200 and the way I'm doing this is I'm calculating points for any song I come across on any Billboard Hot 100 week this year that spent 10 or more weeks in the chart year, then calculating the points of it using my inverse system and if it gets at least 78k (half of what my current projected #100, Eyes on You, has) points then it qualifies for the top 200 but I can't find enough songs that got that many points, even including ones that could reach that threshold within the two coming weeks (Hate Me, Good Vibes, What Happens in a Small Town, Baby Sitter, F.N, Every Little Thing, hot girl bummer, Dance Monkey) so what do I do Probably some stupid advice but you could check some of the higher charting Christmas songs (minus the obvious one) such as Jingle Bell Rock, Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree, It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year and A Holly Jolly Christmas, as they all charted for at least 5 weeks and hit the top 10. |
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Post by spicymapping on Nov 17, 2019 9:27:45 GMT -5
If you want a top 200, I'm more than happy to post mine once we know what the dates will be.
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Post by brady47 on Nov 17, 2019 12:03:03 GMT -5
"We Found Love" is surprisingly high on the decade chart.
I know it's airplay was massive, but it's digital sales were ~5.2 million when I last checked, which is decent but not record-breaking, so airplay really fueled it's longevity.
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 17, 2019 12:30:04 GMT -5
So Donβt Start Now probably wonβt make this yearβs list, but do you guys think it has enough hit power to be an early lock for 2020? Let's see if it has longevity and/or if it manages to climb into the top 20 or top 10. By the time that say, February or March roll around, we should know whether it has enough legs to be a lock. I think that the big holdovers on the chart are going to be easier choices for early locks because they are going to have the chart points to stake out a high position. |
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Post by sirskimask on Nov 17, 2019 17:10:41 GMT -5
Songs that are likely to repeat on the 2020 list:
Someone You Loved
Circles
Senorita
Truth Hurts
Good As Hell
No Guidance
Bad Guy
Beautiful People
Trampoline
There's also the case of On Chill and Lover whose chances of repeating mostly depend on whether or not they can sneak onto the 2019 list
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 20:21:01 GMT -5
Songs that are likely to repeat on the 2020 list: Someone You Loved Circles Senorita Truth Hurts Good As Hell No Guidance Bad Guy Beautiful People Trampoline There's also the case of On Chill and Lover whose chances of repeating mostly depend on whether or not they can sneak onto the 2019 list Could Old Town Road repeat? I think it is still in the Top 20, and could probably stay on the Hot 100 until it goes recurrent in March. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 17, 2019 20:41:35 GMT -5
Songs that are likely to repeat on the 2020 list: Someone You Loved Circles Senorita Truth Hurts Good As Hell No Guidance Bad Guy Beautiful People Trampoline There's also the case of On Chill and Lover whose chances of repeating mostly depend on whether or not they can sneak onto the 2019 list Could Old Town Road repeat? I think it is still in the Top 20, and could probably stay on the Hot 100 until it goes recurrent in March. Yes, I think it's possible (at least at this point) that it and Panini could repeat given their consistent strengths in YouTube and user generated content. |
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Post by tuna on Nov 18, 2019 11:02:17 GMT -5
Since we are talking about the biggest hits of the decade, I would like to give some attention to some favorites this decade that did chart on the billboard hot 100, but not long enough to claim a spot on the year end top 100 Here are mine (ranked from favorite to least-but-still-great-favorite) Kendrick Lamar - King Kunta M83 - Midnight City Kendrick Lamar - The Blacker The Berry Black Keys - Lonely Boy A Tribe Called Quest - We The People Black Keys - Gold on the Ceiling Kendrick Lamar - These Walls Jay Z & Kanye West - No Church In The Wild Frank Ocean - Pink + White Red Hot Chili Peppers - Dark Necessities Beyonce & The Weeknd - 6 Inch Bad Meets Evil - Fast Lane Beyonce & Kendrick Lamar - Freedom Eminem & Lil Wayne - No Love Mark Ronson & Miley Cyrus - Nothing Breaks Like A Heart Kanye West - POWER Kenye West - Black Skinhead Adele - Skyfall Adele - Turning Tables Robin Schulz & Francesco Yates - Sugar Beyonce & Jack White- Dont Hurt Yourself Lorde - Green Light David Bowie - Blackstar Arctic Monkeys - Do I Wanna Know Billie Eilish - Ocean Eyes Lorde - Yellow Flicker Beat Childish Gambino - V. 3005 I havent heard ever single song that charted, so im sure there are more that deserve to be remembered Almost all of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy charted at one point Kanye West- Runaway Kanye West- Monster Kanye West- Dark Fantasy and I'd also like to add Lil Wayne- Mona Lisa Lil Wayne- Uproar WALK THE MOON- One Foot Lord Huron- The Night We Met Paramore- Hard Times The 1975- Chocolate Carly Rae Jepsen- I Really Like You Phoenix- 1901 Avicii- Levels Foster The People- Don't Stop (Color On The Walls) Passion Pit- Take A Walk Mumford and Sons- Little Lion Man Basically 90% of all indie that makes it onto the chart |
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 18, 2019 13:39:51 GMT -5
Top Ten are out for what could be the last chart to be included in the 2019 year-end.
SYL holds at #1. Memories leaps to #6,#5 possibly grabbing the final new entry in the top 100 of the year.
[Edited to correct Memories position.]
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 18, 2019 13:42:00 GMT -5
Top Ten are out for what could be the last chart to be included in the 2019 year-end.
SYL holds at #1. Memories leaps to #6, possibly grabbing the final new entry in the top 100 of the year.
#5 you mean? Yes, I'm curious to see which of the newish arrivals will be able to find their way into the YE list. |
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