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Post by Rumors on Apr 29, 2015 17:30:16 GMT -5
That clip is great. I love seeing stuff like that. It just shows you how hard performers have to work. If you can't put the work in, you won't last long in today's music business. Her little girl is adorable.
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Apr 30, 2015 8:02:04 GMT -5
This is my point of view on Piece By Piece (song ... should it be a single?)
As specific as it is, I don't think that's a problem. If I took the time to go through my whole music collection, I'd probably find more examples, but all I can think of now is 'Dear Mr. President' by P!nk - it was huge outside the US (for obvious reasons).
My 'problem' with PBP is the sound of it. I like it - I don't love it. I think I speak for most people when I say that we pay attention to the sound of a song first.. and then we look at the lyrics MAYBE
Apart from BOY's relateability-factor - the song sounds great! PBP doesn't IMO. When I first listened to PBP - the first few seconds made me hope for a big 80s-kinda ballad with a huge chorus, but the rythmic thing is just not fully my thing. Could be other people's thing idk, but even objectively, I don't think it sounds great.
Being described as BOY's silver lining, I was hoping for a similar, more serious instrumental, but it sounds like a lullaby for adults. However, the lyrics are great and heartbreaking!
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Post by kmbgs on Apr 30, 2015 11:09:50 GMT -5
This is my point of view on Piece By Piece (song ... should it be a single?) As specific as it is, I don't think that's a problem. If I took the time to go through my whole music collection, I'd probably find more examples, but all I can think of now is 'Dear Mr. President' by P!nk - it was huge outside the US (for obvious reasons). My 'problem' with PBP is the sound of it. I like it - I don't love it. I think I speak for most people when I say that we pay attention to the sound of a song first.. and then we look at the lyrics MAYBE Apart from BOY's relateability-factor - the song sounds great! PBP doesn't IMO. When I first listened to PBP - the first few seconds made me hope for a big 80s-kinda ballad with a huge chorus, but the rythmic thing is just not fully my thing. Could be other people's thing idk, but even objectively, I don't think it sounds great. Being described as BOY's silver lining, I was hoping for a similar, more serious instrumental, but it sounds like a lullaby for adults. However, the lyrics are great and heartbreaking! Interesting because I actually think the "sound" of PBP is its strongest asset. The drums hook you in, the bridge/middle 8 or whatever features the classic big Kelly vocals we all love, and it's catchy as fuck.
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Post by bitchplease on Apr 30, 2015 12:52:43 GMT -5
PBP is good, and have catchy melody, but it not in the same league as BOY, not even close. especially from commercial appeal point of view. the song itself is good, but i remember feeling dissapointed hearing it for the first time since it was hyped up as BOY part 2. i still am not sure its potential for a radio single. i still think whatever they release wont make much difference, it will do the same or worse than HBS. they need to do alot more than releasing a new single to revive this era, and i dont think RCA see it as a viable potential return for them.
im ok with kelly doing HBS on BB award. lets not act like BB award did anything for Dark Side. she came out debuting a hot new body and a follow up new single to the mega smash Stronger. it went unnoticed. Invincible is not the type of song that will hook u in after the first listen. we will see what happens. enjoy the music people. i still listen to GGTB, in the blue, DWM, HBS, LYTF everyday. :)
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Post by mattybmb on Apr 30, 2015 13:21:10 GMT -5
I'm hoping at the very least we get three singles. Invincible is practically set in stone, and I think it's safe to say Piece by Piece will be released too. Well, I'm hoping. Geek is right. A lot of people blasted Heartbeat Song for being generic, but Piece by Piece is too 'personal'. That's exactly what this era needs. To those who say "Piece By Piece" is too "personal," I say this is what makes the song work. I understand exactly what it's about and feel sympathetic to the singer, despite never having gone through what she did. It's a refreshingly non-generic empowerment anthem, and radio desperately needs a deviation in usual subject matter. It's such a unique, special song that could be a definitive career moment for her - a 2016 Grammy performance would be life-changing. I may be wrong, but I don't think "too personal" were the words I used. "too specific", yes. The daddy-issues displayed in that song is such a niche topic that it's hard to imagine it connecting with a wide variety of people. What makes a successful "personal" songs work is when they're relatable. Kelly's even gone on record saying, in the past, that she's written her personal songs (Because of You, You Love Me, Let Me Down) in a way to make them sound like they could be about romantic relationships to reach a bigger pop audience. I could be wrong but, for that reason, I don't think PBP is gonna connect with a whole lot of people the way that "Because of you" did. jmo/prediction. I completely get where you're coming from, and to some extent, I agree. But on the issue of whether or not the song is relatable, I think it is. The lyrics may be specific, but the overall message connects everyone: Where someone in your life, who you love deeply, ups and leaves, and no amount of begging can bring them back. We've all had that happen to us in our lives, in one form or another. And while the lyrics are quite detailed and personal, I think that could do wonders. I love the story behind a song; the story a song can tell you. Kelly has some fantastic songs with vague, fist-pumping lyrics, but nothing beats an inside look into a singer's life. It's one of the major reasons Because Of You did so well. As for the melody, it's definitely an album highlight. Clean, full of depth and unmistakable. It's catchy too, with Kelly's vocals top notch. From the first line, 'And all I remember,' you can hear the pain and longing. Plus, the way she sings those Piece By Pieces near the end breaks my heart each and every time. The chorus change that follows that is a welcome surprise, and a nice deviation that urges us emotional wrecks to the finish line. On its commercial appeal, they should keep promoting it as Because Of You's successor; with a few performances of both if it becomes a single. Maybe even a video with snippets of BOY. Kelly's always been commercial. Be that when she's breaking records and topping the charts, or whether she's cruising along slowly. Her hard work, longevity and talent aren't going anywhere. I do think we need this Invincible video pronto. Even if she does sing Heartbeat Song - which is still one of my favourites - at the BBA, perhaps she'll give the end her all, and get our mouths watering for her live performance of Invincible, because if she slays that - I have no doubt she will - then this whole era could change spectacularly.
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Post by nightshade on Apr 30, 2015 18:27:24 GMT -5
I'll probably be the only one but I prefer Piece By Piece over Because of You.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Apr 30, 2015 18:48:18 GMT -5
I'll probably be the only one but I prefer Piece By Piece over Because of You. Well, it's the positive resolution isn't it? Basically this song is the payoff that you wait for through years of heartbreak anthems. After listening to this song you know she really is ok, even more than ok...really awesome. I don't know that I "prefer" it, but it makes me a hell of a lot happier to listen to.
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Post by Keelzit on Apr 30, 2015 21:25:04 GMT -5
I think I've never listened to Thankful in full so I guess this is her 2nd most cheesy album lyrics-wise. I get that she was in super happy mood while recording it but some songs could be her coronation single back in 2002.
That said, I love Heartbeat Song and Good Goes The Bye but that's pretty much it. I also really enjoy Nostalgic's production but overall the song is a let down.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Apr 30, 2015 21:48:47 GMT -5
As for the melody, it's definitely an album highlight. Clean, full of depth and unmistakable. It's catchy too, with Kelly's vocals top notch. From the first line, 'And all I remember,' you can hear the pain and longing. Plus, the way she sings those Piece By Pieces near the end breaks my heart each and every time. The chorus change that follows that is a welcome surprise, and a nice deviation that urges us emotional wrecks to the finish line. Yes! The melody is great! And i love the drums when she sings "And all I remember...". Obviously, I hope it does well if it's a single, but with the very small possibility that we'll even see a 3rd single, I want Good Goes Goodbye <3. I do think we need this Invincible video pronto. Even if she does sing Heartbeat Song - which is still one of my favourites - at the BBA, perhaps she'll give the end her all, and get our mouths watering for her live performance of Invincible, because if she slays that - I have no doubt she will - then this whole era could change spectacularly. Great if she premieres Invincible at the BBA, but I can't help but wish there was some other ward show, with a bigger audience, coming up soon. Is there? The BBA will get the industry talking about the song (other artist on twitter, radio shows, music blogs, etc) but not much of the GP watch it, so she'll still need to do more promo for it.
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Post by mattybmb on May 1, 2015 5:49:16 GMT -5
As for the melody, it's definitely an album highlight. Clean, full of depth and unmistakable. It's catchy too, with Kelly's vocals top notch. From the first line, 'And all I remember,' you can hear the pain and longing. Plus, the way she sings those Piece By Pieces near the end breaks my heart each and every time. The chorus change that follows that is a welcome surprise, and a nice deviation that urges us emotional wrecks to the finish line. Yes! The melody is great! And i love the drums when she sings "And all I remember...". Obviously, I hope it does well if it's a single, but with the very small possibility that we'll even see a 3rd single, I want Good Goes Goodbye <3. I do think we need this Invincible video pronto. Even if she does sing Heartbeat Song - which is still one of my favourites - at the BBA, perhaps she'll give the end her all, and get our mouths watering for her live performance of Invincible, because if she slays that - I have no doubt she will - then this whole era could change spectacularly. Great if she premieres Invincible at the BBA, but I can't help but wish there was some other ward show, with a bigger audience, coming up soon. Is there? The BBA will get the industry talking about the song (other artist on twitter, radio shows, music blogs, etc) but not much of the GP watch it, so she'll still need to do more promo for it. This album makes it mighty difficult when it comes to singles. I love Good Goes The Bye, too. The lyrics, melody, vocals - especially at the end - are freaking awesome! Not sure if there are any other upcoming shows. The internet is my only friend in this regard, because I live in the UK.
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Post by StrongBreakaway on May 1, 2015 7:15:07 GMT -5
Pics from the Invincible shooting: hair and make-up is by Ashley ! *claps* The director is Alon Isocianu
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Post by Jack on May 1, 2015 7:27:43 GMT -5
She looks about five years younger than she has been, for a start.
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Post by MiniMusic on May 1, 2015 7:48:23 GMT -5
Ahhh her makeup and hair look great! I can't tell if she also lost some weight there but she looks really, really good! She looks fresh and radiant.
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Post by kmbgs on May 1, 2015 8:26:21 GMT -5
She hasn't lost a pound but she still looks the best she has all year (or since WIR tbh)
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Post by bitchplease on May 1, 2015 8:52:45 GMT -5
aw she looks real pretty n natural!! and no, she wont drop the lbs until after 2nd pregnancy. unless she wants it, its not goin to happen, its kelly here =)
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Post by mattybmb on May 1, 2015 15:04:04 GMT -5
Kelly looks fantastic. Cannot wait for this video; enough of the pic teases, give us it!
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Post by Au$tin on May 1, 2015 15:14:26 GMT -5
The director is Alon Isocianu Yes! Hope this video is similar to this one.
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Post by Revelry on May 1, 2015 15:38:54 GMT -5
Long sleeves! Thank you!
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Post by neally on May 2, 2015 0:45:54 GMT -5
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Post by mattybmb on May 2, 2015 10:00:00 GMT -5
Was Invincible recorded after Kelly's pregnancy? I've been seeing a few people saying that this is true, and if it is, I don't think we'll have to worry about her vocals
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Post by getonthebus on May 2, 2015 10:13:15 GMT -5
Well, for what it's worth, Heartbeat Song looks like it's going #1 on AC next week.
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Post by StrongBreakaway on May 2, 2015 11:11:43 GMT -5
Was Invincible recorded after Kelly's pregnancy? I've been seeing a few people saying that this is true, and if it is, I don't think we'll have to worry about her vocals Yes, 3 months after her pregnancy and the last song she recorded!
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Post by mattybmb on May 2, 2015 11:52:49 GMT -5
Was Invincible recorded after Kelly's pregnancy? I've been seeing a few people saying that this is true, and if it is, I don't think we'll have to worry about her vocals Yes, 3 months after her pregnancy and the last song she recorded! Nice! We need a live performance pronto!
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Post by ificanthaveyou on May 2, 2015 14:04:20 GMT -5
Fight Song by Rachel Platten woulda been an anthem for Kelly. I could totally see her killing it.
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Post by StrongBreakaway on May 4, 2015 9:49:11 GMT -5
New interview:
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Post by MiniMusic on May 4, 2015 10:20:51 GMT -5
Yes Kelly promote that Invincible smash!!
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Post by StrongBreakaway on May 4, 2015 12:45:04 GMT -5
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Post by kmbgs on May 4, 2015 13:08:48 GMT -5
I may be a bad fan rn but I have no interest in these interviews..Kelly you need to energize your base.
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Post by rahulv on May 4, 2015 13:13:53 GMT -5
Hey all! Long time lurker. First time poster. I'm a huge fan of KC, been following her since the days of Breakaway. In love with the new album. My favourite song right now is 'Take you high.' I also love her duet with John Legend. I'm from India (shoutout! W00t!) I'll post more and engage in discussions. Thanks and peace out!
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Post by Jack on May 4, 2015 15:22:31 GMT -5
Hey all! Long time lurker. First time poster. I'm a huge fan of KC, been following her since the days of Breakaway. In love with the new album. My favourite song right now is 'Take you high.' I also love her duet with John Legend. I'm from India (shoutout! W00t!) I'll post more and engage in discussions. Thanks and peace out! You can't be worse than some of the other newer Kelly posters, so, welcome.
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