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Post by bigb0882 on May 18, 2015 17:16:42 GMT -5
Do they usually pre-record for The Voice?
After seeing the full performance at the Kiss concert, I realize how much better she could have been. It is amazing how good Kelly is when a subpar performance from her still sounds so incredible.
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Post by Jack on May 18, 2015 17:21:40 GMT -5
Also anyone who doesn't think the song will or can connect, listen to the reaction from the crowd starting at her "what was I running forrr" into the head voice at 6.38 on that video. That's from a song most of them have never heard, and they go wild...the band comes in, Kelly goes off into the stratosphere, even from that grainy far away YouTube video it looked like pandemonium. Just sayin.
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Post by getonthebus on May 18, 2015 18:00:10 GMT -5
Also anyone who doesn't think the song will or can connect, listen to the reaction from the crowd starting at her "what was I running forrr" into the head voice at 6.38 on that video. That's from a song most of them have never heard, and they go wild...the band comes in, Kelly goes off into the stratosphere, even from that grainy far away YouTube video it looked like pandemonium. Just sayin. Plus she got a genuine standing ovation at the BBMA (not an American Idol everyone gets an O). Getting a reaction like that from that crowd is big. It was hard to see because the host, cyborg Chrissy Teigen, and the show in general were so focused on barreling through the program.
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Post by bitchplease on May 18, 2015 20:12:46 GMT -5
omg the voice performance is tmrw night!!! i didnt realize its coming up so soon. hopefully it'll do some major climbing on iTunes so radio will take notice and actually spin Invincible. i need kelly to slay the voice finally, n in front of xtina!! her US Voice performances so far have been underwhelming, CMB w top 2 contestants were akward, n she was pregnant with UTT perormance. yay kelly!!!
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Post by Focus on May 18, 2015 20:53:46 GMT -5
"Invincible" 26 adds on HAC today.
KCIX-FM KIOI-FM KLTG-FM KMVA-FM KMYI-FM KPEK-FM KQKQ-FM KSII-FM KTYL-FM KVIL-FM KZZU-FM W1HA-FM WAJI-FM WBMX-FM WDVI-FM WGYL-FM WHYN-FM WJLK-FM WMMX-FM WMXZ-FM WRMF-FM WRVE-FM WSJO-FM WWFS-FM WWMX-FM WWZY-FM
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Post by jeffw on May 18, 2015 21:19:38 GMT -5
I find it odd that Billboard uploaded all of the performances from the award show to YouTube except Kelly's. Can anyone else find it?
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Post by bitchplease on May 19, 2015 0:19:05 GMT -5
^^ u had to rip them quickly before they take them down. i learned my lesson on muchmusic award dark side/stronger medley. she looked smokin hot that night too. i hated myself to not rip it that night & waited til the next day. i ripped the hq-ish youtube vid into mp4 last night.
i wasnt a fan of that girl who hosted with Luda, that gf of john leggend. she was just not funny and seemed way forced on her jokes and facial expressions.
people were starting to stand up and giving kelly standing ovation, ok it wasnt everyone jumping up to their feet immediately kind of standing O, it was more like oh some people in the front rows are standing up so i better follow kindda ovation, but i'd take anything. it was happening, and that girl host had to cut it off, i wanted to throw my shoes at her! but whatever, most of the press reviews are glowing for kelly today, recognizing her singing power and talent as the vocal moment of the night.
i wonder if they will release a shorter radio edit. i felt like HBS would've benefited from it too. the way they shortened the first chorus and cut some repetition of choruses at the end last night could make a great radio edit.
btw that john/meghan trainor duet is so catchy, while it's def. not a better song than RunRunRun, its def a much better radio single. it has a clear hook, with strong immediate singalong melody. im guessing the meghan duet will come out after Dear Future Husband is done. looks like Run3X will have to wait, we don't know if it's even gonna be a single at all, or if we would get to a 4th single, or even 3rd. so far, Invincible is getting BBMA & the voice finale, both pretty high profile, plus a future Ellen performance that's been taped. pretty decent. hope it takes off. go kelly!!
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on May 19, 2015 1:17:43 GMT -5
*looks at Mariah* Unnecessary, but...of course, you knew that. You're welcome to post this in Mariah's actual thread instead of Kelly's, though. I will pretend there was never a time when I didn't absolutely fucking LOVE Invincible.
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Post by popbox on May 19, 2015 1:39:03 GMT -5
Also anyone who doesn't think the song will or can connect, listen to the reaction from the crowd starting at her "what was I running forrr" into the head voice at 6.38 on that video. That's from a song most of them have never heard, and they go wild...the band comes in, Kelly goes off into the stratosphere, even from that grainy far away YouTube video it looked like pandemonium. Just sayin. No. This year's BBMA's got big ratings and most of the songs performed are way up there on iTunes. Yet Invincible is still nowhere in the top 100, despite a flawless performance. I think it's pretty clear this will not register with the general public. That was some huge exposure, and it didn't do much for it. As I've always said about Invincible, it's a song you release like as a 4th single coming off a lot of momentum. Otherwise its hit potential is very small. It would take a miracle now for this era not to be dead.
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Post by toomuchboy on May 19, 2015 2:48:34 GMT -5
I'm putting my hope on "Run Run Run." Not safe to have all the eggs in one basket, but I'm not expecting a 4th single.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 2:53:22 GMT -5
^Where were the other songs on iTunes before being performed? I think most of them were already in the top 100 or had been there at least once before, with the exception of the Bad Blood remix for obvious reasons. Invincible probably wasn't even in the top 1000 so even though I'm sure it saw a boost - maybe even a comparable one, percentage-wise - for a song to come from nowhere to the top 100 just on its first national performance isn't likely. But then that is also why I wasn't happy about them waiting until almost June to release it; after The Voice there's nowhere else for her to perform it and I think it's pretty obvious we can't really rely on radio for it to take off quickly.
I don't think it's an issue of whether or not the song connects to people. I've been to a KC concert, she can make the alphabet sound like trumpets heralding the second coming of Jesus. Unfortunately "connecting" =/= "registering" - that is, how well something connects to an audience has little or nothing to do with what people watching on tv decide to buy or what radio decides to play. It's not that Invincible needs two or three lead-ins, it's just that it needs more time to build than a SUBG/Stronger (every 'immediate' song in Kelly's discography has been that type of song). Unfortunately I don't think Invincible is going to get that build up since she probably isn't going to perform it on tv again after The Voice, and she/RCA don't seem like they're putting a great deal of weight behind the push to radio this era.
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Post by mamaloveme on May 19, 2015 3:18:04 GMT -5
she needs to dress like a cool mom in BBMA, why dress so much better in England and Australia and yet she dress herself like a 40ish mom in US?
BBMA performance is not her best that she can deliever i hope she can sing better in The Voice, also should help much more in The Itunes this time i know it is disappinted that BBMA only help it goes to top200 in Itunes, the only big help is Taylor Sift Bad Blood,which was giving a hell of a promo 3 weeks before BBMA, i would like to see how the Voice Performance will help, before going to panic
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Post by krisclarkson on May 19, 2015 6:56:27 GMT -5
^^^ I've noticed that too. She consistently Hamas a stronger image when she's over seas than when she's in the U.S. I wonder why
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Post by Jack on May 19, 2015 7:14:36 GMT -5
Also anyone who doesn't think the song will or can connect, listen to the reaction from the crowd starting at her "what was I running forrr" into the head voice at 6.38 on that video. That's from a song most of them have never heard, and they go wild...the band comes in, Kelly goes off into the stratosphere, even from that grainy far away YouTube video it looked like pandemonium. Just sayin. No. This year's BBMA's got big ratings and most of the songs performed are way up there on iTunes. Yet Invincible is still nowhere in the top 100, despite a flawless performance. I think it's pretty clear this will not register with the general public. That was some huge exposure, and it didn't do much for it. As I've always said about Invincible, it's a song you release like as a 4th single coming off a lot of momentum. Otherwise its hit potential is very small. It would take a miracle now for this era not to be dead. 'No', what? I didn't ask a question. The performance was't flawless, nor was the song in the top 1500, nor has it any form of radio play. As has been pointed out to you, percentage wise, it had an effect. But nobody here before the BBMAs thought it was going make big waves after this performance, so I don't know why the narrative is that that was the expectation. But I'm sure there are scores of people who would say "MY FAVE TIGHTROPE would be N!?1!! by now", but isn't that the beauty of something always being theoretical. What Doesn't Kill You hardly rocketed to the top after her performance of it on X Factor, and that was when she wasn't sandwiched between seventeen other performances. But there was no airplay, nor lead up in that case either. :/ Well neither she nor the label think it's hit potential is very small (at least in relation to the rest of the songs on the record) so maybe we know something you don't? For all intents and purposes its a second single that has been out for a day. Zomg!£ pretty clear it's a flop already, move on to the next one. I wonder if that's how people think labels actually work?
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Post by kmbgs on May 19, 2015 7:46:37 GMT -5
Speaking of expectations, I officially have none for the rest of this era (apart from the tour being an epic concert) so it will be fun to watch how Invincible performs.
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Post by ILLUSION on May 19, 2015 7:48:34 GMT -5
26 adds on HAC for Invincible yesterday
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Post by fallensaint on May 19, 2015 10:00:47 GMT -5
No. This year's BBMA's got big ratings and most of the songs performed are way up there on iTunes. Yet Invincible is still nowhere in the top 100, despite a flawless performance. I think it's pretty clear this will not register with the general public. That was some huge exposure, and it didn't do much for it. As I've always said about Invincible, it's a song you release like as a 4th single coming off a lot of momentum. Otherwise its hit potential is very small. It would take a miracle now for this era not to be dead. 'No', what? I didn't ask a question. The performance was't flawless, nor was the song in the top 1500, nor has it any form of radio play. As has been pointed out to you, percentage wise, it had an effect. But nobody here before the BBMAs thought it was going make big waves after this performance, so I don't know why the narrative is that that was the expectation. But I'm sure there are scores of people who would say "MY FAVE TIGHTROPE would be N!?1!! by now", but isn't that the beauty of something always being theoretical. What Doesn't Kill You hardly rocketed to the top after her performance of it on X Factor, and that was when she wasn't sandwiched between seventeen other performances. But there was no airplay, nor lead up in that case either. :/ Well neither she nor the label think it's hit potential is very small (at least in relation to the rest of the songs on the record) so maybe we know something you don't? For all intents and purposes its a second single that has been out for a day. Zomg!£ pretty clear it's a flop already, move on to the next one. I wonder if that's how people think labels actually work?
After the BBMA appearance in 2012 for DS, the single peaked around #200 right after, then continued to sink into the 300s...until radio airplay picked up and suddenly we find DS peaking at #42 on the BB Hot 100. Not a megahit, but a solid-performing single. But I remember people calling it a flop just because it didn't vault into the top 20 on iTunes the day after.
I see Invincible being more of a radio hit than DS, and with the Voice finale tonight, we might see the single make the top 50 iTunes by tomorrow. It's not a clear and obvious hit single like WDKY was, but most songs aren't. What it DOES mean is that RCA/Kelly need to be smart and active in promoting it. Not sure why it wasn't released to Pop radio at the same time as HAC, since I can't see how it can possibly hurt.
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Post by fallensaint on May 19, 2015 10:26:22 GMT -5
she needs to dress like a cool mom in BBMA, why dress so much better in England and Australia and yet she dress herself like a 40ish mom in US?
BBMA performance is not her best that she can deliever i hope she can sing better in The Voice, also should help much more in The Itunes this time i know it is disappinted that BBMA only help it goes to top200 in Itunes, the only big help is Taylor Sift Bad Blood,which was giving a hell of a promo 3 weeks before BBMA, i would like to see how the Voice Performance will help, before going to panic
Haha, well this is becoming her target group, unfortunately.
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Post by fallensaint on May 19, 2015 10:29:36 GMT -5
I'm putting my hope on "Run Run Run." Not safe to have all the eggs in one basket, but I'm not expecting a 4th single.
I'm expecting them to release a 4th single, even if it's with little to no promotion (a la the single, All I Ever Wanted). Why not? Can't hurt.
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Post by Revelry on May 19, 2015 10:36:43 GMT -5
So is Invincible really not going to pop?
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Post by fallensaint on May 19, 2015 10:37:57 GMT -5
So is Invincible really not going to pop?
Of course it is! Just not yet. They're probably wanting to create some buzz on HAC to strengthen the case for big Pop stations to add it.
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Post by QAF on May 19, 2015 10:52:18 GMT -5
I thought Kelly looked great at the BBMAs.
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Post by mattybmb on May 19, 2015 11:10:19 GMT -5
I thought Kelly looked great at the BBMAs. Me too. Not once did '40ish mom' cross my mind.
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Post by getonthebus on May 19, 2015 11:45:24 GMT -5
So is Invincible really not going to pop?
Of course it is! Just not yet. They're probably wanting to create some buzz on HAC to strengthen the case for big Pop stations to add it.
Exactly this. And considering how Heartbeat Song faired on AC/HAC compared to Pop, outlasting on the charts for months, it makes sense to let it build up there before shifting over to a more-focused CHR campaign.
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Post by QAF on May 19, 2015 12:11:37 GMT -5
Has anyone heard anything about the release date for the Invincible video? I thought it would coincide with the official adds date to radio but I guess not.
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Post by fallensaint on May 19, 2015 12:18:04 GMT -5
Has anyone heard anything about the release date for the Invincible video? I thought it would coincide with the official adds date to radio but I guess not.
Just watch the music video for either CMB or HBS with the volume on mute and you pretty much already have it.
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Post by QAF on May 19, 2015 13:14:57 GMT -5
Has anyone heard anything about the release date for the Invincible video? I thought it would coincide with the official adds date to radio but I guess not.
Just watch the music video for either CMB or HBS with the volume on mute and you pretty much already have it.
I think it will be more along the Darkside type since it's neither an mid-temp or up-tempo song.
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Post by mattybmb on May 19, 2015 14:50:37 GMT -5
I get the feeling the official video is being saved for when there's a lull in live performances. That way when she's not promoting there's still something to pique interest.
I want it now!
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Post by bitchplease on May 19, 2015 15:26:49 GMT -5
Has anyone heard anything about the release date for the Invincible video? I thought it would coincide with the official adds date to radio but I guess not.
Just watch the music video for either CMB or HBS with the volume on mute and you pretty much already have it.
lol right? i'd do CMB vid, she looked so hot n pretty and just very pop star altogether, while on HBS, they did well for working with what they got. kelly didnt look bad nor fat in it
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Post by QAF on May 19, 2015 15:27:51 GMT -5
Kelly's drummer tweeted something about Kelly and Meghan on The Voice and now there is speculation that this Meghan person may be singing with Kelly on Invincible. I am not happy about that if it turns out to be true. They say this Meghan girl is fantastic but I just feel that if Kelly is promoting the song then she should perform it by herself. I hope it's not true.
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