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Post by The Upper Hand on Jun 4, 2015 19:36:13 GMT -5
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Post by keeptheflowers on Jun 4, 2015 19:59:41 GMT -5
Still not over that Invincible performance. Kelly Clarkson, silencing the haters and the doubters since Simon Cowell.
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Post by mattybmb on Jun 4, 2015 20:13:14 GMT -5
She filled that Invincible performance with everything she had, and damn...
Best performance this era, by a loooooong shot. I'm never gonna stop replaying this.
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Post by dbhmr on Jun 5, 2015 1:25:45 GMT -5
For the first time in a long time, I found out about a Kelly performance on Facebook instead of here. The BBHMM cover is amazing. I guess the BBC Lounge is where she goes to kill a Rihanna track. Great, savvy choice. And probably the most perfect she's sounded all year. Ellen was good, but isn't that technically her first performance of that song? Especially good then, especially the end--the switch to head voice is much more impactful live. But that flat high C.
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Post by mattybmb on Jun 5, 2015 4:36:15 GMT -5
Kelly's on British show This Morning this morning!
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Post by mattybmb on Jun 5, 2015 5:23:19 GMT -5
Pretty standard performance on This Morning; a little raspy, but it's early morning so not too bad.
Ellen performance still rules.
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Post by rahulv on Jun 5, 2015 5:29:05 GMT -5
Th Ellen performance is before her laryngitis right?
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Post by mattybmb on Jun 5, 2015 5:37:33 GMT -5
Th Ellen performance is before her laryngitis right? I think so, yes.
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Jun 5, 2015 5:54:53 GMT -5
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Post by mattybmb on Jun 5, 2015 6:32:00 GMT -5
Just caught up with her Invincible performance in the Live Lounge on BBC iPlayer. Can't find it anywhere to post here, but it's awesome. Her notes are so strong during the performance. Superior to the This Morning performance.
Still a little trouble with the C6, but she doesn't use that part of her voice too often, so she gets a pass.
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Post by neally on Jun 5, 2015 6:59:12 GMT -5
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 5, 2015 8:04:08 GMT -5
I love that Kelly is doing some promo but it just seems to all be such paint by numbers and I think that is partly why the success level this era is not as high as many would like. It's exactly what she's been doing since BA. Release album, promo blitz. New single, new promo appearances (singing on talk shows). I'm not acting like I have some brand new ideas for what she should be doing to promote but these appearances all seem so stale. Like oh yeah an Ellen performance, that will REALLY kickstart Invincible right? Does anyone expect that to do anything?
I'm wondering why she isn't having one of these morning show concerts in NYC, which at least gets you hype all week as they hype it up. I'd also like to see her host SNL. What about a reality/docuseries on E!. A live concert special on NBC or some network this summer. And I know this is a long shot, but a really good video would do a lot more good than any of these random talk shows singing Invincible, maybe giving a quick interview, and peacing. The Rihanna cover (which I actually hated) is the first thing she's done this era that I thought was smart, attention-grabbing, without seeming desperate.
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Post by Focus on Jun 5, 2015 8:29:57 GMT -5
Oh WOW!! Live Lounge, Acoustic "Invincible". Absolutely amazing.
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Post by kylecburke on Jun 5, 2015 8:36:07 GMT -5
I love that Kelly is doing some promo but it just seems to all be such paint by numbers and I think that is partly why the success level this era is not as high as many would like. It's exactly what she's been doing since BA. Release album, promo blitz. New single, new promo appearances (singing on talk shows). I'm not acting like I have some brand new ideas for what she should be doing to promote but these appearances all seem so stale. Like oh yeah an Ellen performance, that will REALLY kickstart Invincible right? Does anyone expect that to do anything? I'm wondering why she isn't having one of these morning show concerts in NYC, which at least gets you hype all week as they hype it up. I'd also like to see her host SNL. What about a reality/docuseries on E!. A live concert special on NBC or some network this summer. And I know this is a long shot, but a really good video would do a lot more good than any of these random talk shows singing Invincible, maybe giving a quick interview, and peacing. The Rihanna cover (which I actually hated) is the first thing she's done this era that I thought was smart, attention-grabbing, without seeming desperate. I think my biggest issue with her promo is time. This is the same issue that we saw with Darkside and I believe Already gone. Big high performances and a music video pushed out and airing while the song doesn't even do anything on radio. Then as it rises in radio shes no where to be seen. I feel like this is the same problem we go through each time. They know (or should) the routine as far as awards/tv airings and can plan ahead (ie. Ellen) If they knew she was performing on Billboard/Voice in May then they should have sent Invinc to radio earlier. The same thing happened with Stronger and it drove me crazy. She was on AMA performing MKIA over three months after it was released and a week or so later did Xfactor and performed Stronger...when the song didnt even get released until January. The problem that I think Kelly's management feel is the fright of having two Kelly songs at once. I don't see why they can't try and have a song released when another is peaking. Especially when they are different tempos (ie. HBS and Invinc) Madness I tell ya Madness... But then again Im not a label or manager rep so what do I know
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Post by mikeyj7 on Jun 5, 2015 9:33:18 GMT -5
Oh WOW!! Live Lounge, Acoustic "Invincible". Absolutely amazing. Um, this was exceptional. The best she's sounded yet (on a song she's sounded pretty consistently awesome on from the beginning). The head voice section at the end was particularly insane and perfect. The timbre in her voice on the mega-high C was almost guttural and just so, so nice.
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 5, 2015 9:48:24 GMT -5
Do we think we might get another whistle note appearance eventually in an Invincible performance? I'm here for it.
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Post by Revelry on Jun 5, 2015 9:49:09 GMT -5
I keep forgetting how gorgeous the bridge is. That entire "I was running from an empty threat..." lyric is probably my favorite part of the song.
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Post by rahulv on Jun 5, 2015 10:30:33 GMT -5
Did anyone catch that she kinda messed up after the first chorus. In the Live version, she doesn't sing "What was I running for" and goes straight to "and I'm the perfect storm." Here she almost sang the whole thing and then smiled.
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Post by dbhmr on Jun 5, 2015 10:46:38 GMT -5
That BBC acoustic performance of Invincible is what I've been waiting for. Gorgeous, note-perfect, emotional...absolutely stunning. Blows her other good/very good, but imperfect, performances of this song out of the water. I want that on my iTunes.
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 5, 2015 10:47:09 GMT -5
Holy shit, that Ellen performance had me smiling and cheering. DAMN that was good! I also really loved the "Better Have My Money" cover. So unexpected, but she nailed it!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 5, 2015 11:21:30 GMT -5
Yes, absolutely gorgeous recent performances. Of Invincible of course, but I was surprised how much I also liked the acoustic Heartbeat Song. I have NOT been a fan of that song, but maybe the production of the studio version is throwing me off more than the actual song?
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Post by getonthebus on Jun 5, 2015 14:03:18 GMT -5
Yes, absolutely gorgeous recent performances. Of Invincible of course, but I was surprised how much I also liked the acoustic Heartbeat Song. I have NOT been a fan of that song, but maybe the production of the studio version is throwing me off more than the actual song? HBS would really have benefited from one more pass through a writer, and a re-arrangement for live performances. Drop that chorus down so that she could take it up a half step or change keys on the last couple run throughs with just the drums. Either slow the chorus down more and give it more impact or add in some spots for her to sneak a breath too, and it's a completely different song. As it is, it's so tightly packed that you're pretty much jammed into rigidly performing the album version.
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Post by neally on Jun 5, 2015 16:39:39 GMT -5
Oh WOW!! Live Lounge, Acoustic "Invincible". Absolutely amazing. WOW is right. This is my favourite performance of either of her singles from this era to date, even moreso than the Ellen performance of this song which had a bigger finale loaded with runs (actually, this is one of my favourite KC performances of her career). This stripped-down, masterclass of a performance consisting of only her voice, a piano, and an acoustic guitar displays virtually every facet of her vocals, including but not limited to, her big chest notes, delicate yet powerful head voice, and angelic falsetto/whistle voice finale. Although 'Invincible' does not make my Top 5 songs from this record, it actually is one of my favourite songs to sing, yet is quite difficult to maintain that tone in all of thte voices. Allow me to explain: What is deceivingly difficult is that very transition after the bridge: "What was I running forrrr", where, during that "for", Kelly hits a D5 (chest voice)---> jumps 2 notes to F5 (chest voice)---> jumps 2 notes to G5 (falsetto)---> jumps 2 notes to C6 (falsetto/more likely whistle given the open mouth/open larynx)---> back down 2 notes to G5 (falsetto). These escalating notes starting at the upper chest voice range before any voice changes while maintaining a smooth, clear tone gets a 8.5 to 9 out of 10 on the difficulty scale: very few female artists can accomplish this (more males can because of starting at a lower chest voice). On a good day, I struggle with this as well. In addition to this tone, the various anatomic voices, and range displayed, this acoustic performance also showcases her other first-in-class vocal facets: soul/melisma and power. The girl can tell a story with her voice like no other mainstream artist from this generation. To add to all of this, Kelly (likely intentionally) showed off her versatility a few minutes before this performance with the sassy, soulful performance of 'Money' (a song, which I think is utter trash, but I digress......). Not surprisingly, this cover has gone viral with over 600k views on Youtube in the first 24 hours. For reference, her cover of Rihanna/Coldplay's 'Princess' in the same BBC Live Lounge from 3 years ago has only a bit over 1 million views. As others have already stated, I forgot just how much I look forward to her live voice and to receiving another 30-50 new covers during the international tour in addition to album tracks not performed to date !
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Post by mattybmb on Jun 5, 2015 17:01:43 GMT -5
Oh WOW!! Live Lounge, Acoustic "Invincible". Absolutely amazing. WOW is right. This is my favourite performance of either of her singles from this era to date, even moreso than the Ellen performance of this song which had a bigger finale loaded with runs (actually, this is one of my favourite KC performances of her career). This stripped-down, masterclass of a performance consisting of only her voice, a piano, and an acoustic guitar displays virtually every facet of her vocals, including but not limited to, her big chest notes, delicate yet powerful head voice, and angelic falsetto/whistle voice finale. Although 'Invincible' does not make my Top 5 songs from this record, it actually is one of my favourite songs to sing, yet is quite difficult to maintain that tone in all of thte voices. Allow me to explain: What is deceivingly difficult is that very transition after the bridge: "What was I running forrrr", where, during that "for", Kelly hits a D5 (chest voice)---> jumps 2 notes to F5 (chest voice)---> jumps 2 notes to G5 (falsetto)---> jumps 2 notes to C6 (falsetto/more likely whistle given the open mouth/open larynx)---> back down 2 notes to G5 (falsetto). These escalating notes starting at the upper chest voice range before any voice changes while maintaining a smooth, clear tone gets a 8.5 to 9 out of 10 on the difficulty scale: very few female artists can accomplish this (more males can because of starting at a lower chest voice). On a good day, I struggle with this as well. In addition to this tone, the various anatomic voices, and range displayed, this acoustic performance also showcases her other first-in-class vocal facets: soul/melisma and power. The girl can tell a story with her voice like no other mainstream artist from this generation. To add to all of this, Kelly (likely intentionally) showed off her versatility a few minutes before this performance with the sassy, soulful performance of 'Money' (a song, which I think is utter trash, but I digress......). Not surprisingly, this cover has gone viral with over 600k views on Youtube in the first 24 hours. For reference, her cover of Rihanna/Coldplay's 'Princess' in the same BBC Live Lounge from 3 years ago has only a bit over 1 million views. As others have already stated, I forgot just how much I look forward to her live voice and to receiving another 30-50 new covers during the international tour in addition to album tracks not performed to date !And with that, neally, I think you perfectly summarise not only Kelly's talent, but why commercial performance and having 'big hits' is becoming less and less the focus of Kelly and her team. That's not to say they don't work or won't have another smash - we kinda know she will - but Kelly has stated herself that, she's made enough money now, she's established herself a name, music, voice, personality etc. that have achieved longevity and will likely continue. Am I disappointed by the commercial side? A bit, but it's the least of my concerns. Piece by Piece, along with its singles have done admirably, and the era isn't over. I guess my point is: Kelly's got this. She may or may not have the success of Breakaway or Stronger again, but she won't stop making music.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Jun 5, 2015 17:05:30 GMT -5
Oh WOW!! Live Lounge, Acoustic "Invincible". Absolutely amazing. WOW is right. This is my favourite performance of either of her singles from this era to date, even moreso than the Ellen performance of this song which had a bigger finale loaded with runs (actually, this is one of my favourite KC performances of her career). This stripped-down, masterclass of a performance consisting of only her voice, a piano, and an acoustic guitar displays virtually every facet of her vocals, including but not limited to, her big chest notes, delicate yet powerful head voice, and angelic falsetto/whistle voice finale. Although 'Invincible' does not make my Top 5 songs from this record, it actually is one of my favourite songs to sing, yet is quite difficult to maintain that tone in all of thte voices. Allow me to explain: What is deceivingly difficult is that very transition after the bridge: "What was I running forrrr", where, during that "for", Kelly hits a D5 (chest voice)---> jumps 2 notes to F5 (chest voice)---> jumps 2 notes to G5 (falsetto)---> jumps 2 notes to C6 (falsetto/more likely whistle given the open mouth/open larynx)---> back down 2 notes to G5 (falsetto). These escalating notes starting at the upper chest voice range before any voice changes while maintaining a smooth, clear tone gets a 8.5 to 9 out of 10 on the difficulty scale: very few female artists can accomplish this (more males can because of starting at a lower chest voice). On a good day, I struggle with this as well. Good explanation. But those final high notes were neither whistle register nor falsetto. I'm pretty sure they are made in head voice. She is by far the best female singer of her generation.
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Post by sbp17 on Jun 5, 2015 17:12:07 GMT -5
Yeah, didn't agree with the praise for the Ellen performance but that Live Lounge performance was the best I've heard of the song. Really showcases the beauty of her tone.
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Post by musiclover98 on Jun 5, 2015 19:58:44 GMT -5
That Live Lounge performance was the perfect showcase of her vocal ability. Who else could do that?
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Post by Krim on Jun 5, 2015 21:53:02 GMT -5
The second she whistled I started tearing up. Like who else could do that to me? Easily a top 5 performance from her.
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Post by neally on Jun 5, 2015 23:14:40 GMT -5
Yeah, didn't agree with the praise for the Ellen performance but that Live Lounge performance was the best I've heard of the song. Really showcases the beauty of her tone. Agree- although the Ellen performance was great for her first televised one, it was pitchy in several spots during the verses, and that attempted C7 was just off, as dbhmr pointed out, not to mention some unnecessary runs (a la Xtina), rendering it just "ok" for a KC performance, IMO. What's funny is when I started watching the BBC Live Lounge 'Invincible' performance and realized there were no backup singers (in addition to only two instruments) when the camera panned out, I was concerned that it would lose it's big, gospel-ish sound. Interestingly, I prefer it to the studio version because I hear more of her vocal facets and a stronger interpretation broken down without any backup singers. That ability to take such a big song and improve on it with out any smoke and mirrors is rare for a singer of today. Only Kelly.....
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Post by bitchplease on Jun 6, 2015 0:33:34 GMT -5
omfg that BBC performance was very very good. the raw power of her voice is just unbelievable. the range, the tone, kelly's voice at its best is just EVERYTHING!! what was she wearing tho?? no kelly. the ellen one was um, lets just say im glad she doesnt do that on every Invincible performances. the performance did prove she's still got it vocally after pregnancy. its such a nice treat that we have been getting a good handful of Invincible performances. it's one of the very few Kelly's singles that somewhat shows off her real vocal ability. the world needs to hear it, or be reminded of how great of an instrument kelly's voice really is. i hope the iheart pool party will show Invincible performance on TV and maybe HBS. Imma be so mad if they show SUBG & HBS lol so that would be a 4th US TV performance for Invincible. are there going to be more? not bad for a 2nd single. they are obviously still trying
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