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Post by kmbgs on Jun 7, 2015 20:13:19 GMT -5
She could take plenty of time off and not be contractually obligated to do anything as she can work this time off into her next contract. She can tell whomever she signs with that she isn't doing anything she doesn't want to do until she is ready, whenever that may be. I get what you're saying here but I think some people around here forget that Kelly is not this person who can just demand what she wants from a record label and receive it. Not delivering a record "until she felt like it, whenever that may be" would be what we call in the law an illusory contract, and is not a thing. Girlfriend will need to face the music and realize she's gonna have to deliver a record at some determined future time - which lets be real, will probably be sooner rather than later - if she wants to sign a new deal now. Then again, there's always the possibility that she just lingers around there as a free agent after finishing her PBP push (whether that's smart or not, I don't know. But id be interested to hear what others might think about that.)
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Post by bigb0882 on Jun 7, 2015 22:46:36 GMT -5
Well I was thinking more she can put a specific date in the contract. Such as, I promise to have a record out by Fall 2017 or whatever. I picked that date randomly but it could be in the contract so everyone is on the same page. She could then take plenty of time off and know when she needs to start getting back in the studio and work on laying down tracks.
I wouldn't be against another Christmas album to hold us all over and keep whatever label happy. It is a guaranteed big seller from her, as well.
Of course, the timing of a Christmas album would be tough. Too late to do it for this Christmas. If she got pregnant at the end of this year then it would probably be bad timing for Christmas 2016 since she would be just a couple of months out of having the baby when it is released. Unless they just wanted her to release it and do very little to no promotion. They still have a track or two they can release to AC and HAC for this season from WIR, anyway. So I guess a Christmas album wont work out. :(
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 23:22:15 GMT -5
Even before this era started Kelly was saying she wanted to have her second kid by next year, so her wanting to be pregnant by the end of this year is just her reiterating that, I guess. She could take plenty of time off and not be contractually obligated to do anything as she can work this time off into her next contract. She can tell whomever she signs with that she isn't doing anything she doesn't want to do until she is ready, whenever that may be. I get what you're saying here but I think some people around here forget that Kelly is not this person who can just demand what she wants from a record label and receive it. Not delivering a record "until she felt like it, whenever that may be" would be what we call in the law an illusory contract, and is not a thing. Girlfriend will need to face the music and realize she's gonna have to deliver a record at some determined future time - which lets be real, will probably be sooner rather than later - if she wants to sign a new deal now. Then again, there's always the possibility that she just lingers around there as a free agent after finishing her PBP push (whether that's smart or not, I don't know. But id be interested to hear what others might think about that.) ugh, illusory contracts...flashback to K's *shudder* As for negotiating, it's not taking time off that would hurt her leverage IMO; it's that PBP is such a lackluster era that it really puts a dent in her perceived selling power. But that would be a problem even right now, so I don't think waiting would be much of a problem as long as both Kelly and her fans understand that when she does come back it will be as a legacy act, and she will be handled accordingly. I wish she could pull off a Vegas residency. It's almost a cliche at this point with all the divas running in that direction, but I think it would be a good look for her if she had a successful one. Maybe just every summer, instead of a year-round one, but I think her fans would turn up for that.
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Post by keeptheflowers on Jun 7, 2015 23:31:39 GMT -5
If they want something to tide us over a third push for WIR would be nice. That album (and the song too) is just too good and I'm still bummed it did not get the international recognition it deserves and that it would've had. It could've easily went past 1M scanned last year if some serious effort was given. Winter Dreams for next single, please :)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 12:24:33 GMT -5
I wish she could pull off a Vegas residency. It's almost a cliche at this point with all the divas running in that direction, but I think it would be a good look for her if she had a successful one. Maybe just every summer, instead of a year-round one, but I think her fans would turn up for that. If Kelly did that, it would be in Nashville, not Vegas. I would love for her to that... the thing with Vegas is it needs to be a spectacle, with colors, lights, dancing... People go there mainly to party and when they see a show they want to be entertained. It's not just the fans that go see these shows. Even Celine who is known for her voice had dancers and acrobats and a lot of effort were put on her shows. Same with Britney, JLo... They put on a show, they're entertainers... I feel like Katy Perry has the perfect material for a Vegas show and Kelly not so much. I would love to be proven wrong. And I would most likely get tickets to see her there. I just don't know if Vegas is right for her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 15:03:05 GMT -5
I feel like Katy Perry has the perfect material for a Vegas show and Kelly not so much. I would love to be proven wrong. And I would most likely get tickets to see her there. I just don't know if Vegas is right for her. Oh, Kelly has the material. She just doesn't have the mindset (Katy, on the other hand, might as well have been created in a Las Vegas laboratory). You have to really buy in to the cheese and spectacle of it all - it's not like Mariah was ever known for big-production stage performances before, but it is working out for her fantastically right now because she totally gave in to the cheese that is Vegas. Someone probably told her "there will be glitter EVERYWHERE" and she was sold, lol. But Kelly always likes to keep things simple. When I say "pull it off" I don't just mean hoping she could pull in the crowd, I also mean actually putting in the thought to create a great Vegas type of show. I don't know why but I keep thinking back to that time @peterawr suggested her Invincible video just be something goofy and fun like her running around with a sword and slaying dragons; it would be great if Kelly or someone on her team were able to think out of the box enough to come up with a theme like that for the whole show. All it really takes is some creativity and the willingness to let the production be a co-star rather than a mere backdrop to your show. I don't know if Kelly has that kind of willingness. I agree with wallace that if she ever wanted to do something like that it would likely be in Nashville, but I don't think Nashville as a city has the same kind of appeal that Vegas does...I'm sure Nashville is cool and all, but Vegas in itself is already a vacationing/destination city, so it's easier to attract passersby; if she's one of your favorite singers it is like icing on the cake. If she had one in Nashville it really would be just the fans coming out every time, and in that case she might as well go on tour so the fans don't all have to travel so far to see her.
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Post by mikeyj7 on Jun 9, 2015 7:58:39 GMT -5
Do people even do residencies in Nashville? I didn't realize that was a thing.
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Post by Kavla on Jun 9, 2015 8:42:22 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson is the only singer WHO can do covers of her own songs absolutely upgrading them!
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Post by getonthebus on Jun 9, 2015 9:23:46 GMT -5
The Las Vegas residency will not happen. They're mostly for artists who are West Coast-based, or willing to move to LA. Kelly isn't doing either, and also it's not something I she's doing in the foreseeable future or ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 9:45:39 GMT -5
I would say no to Vegas. What I want is for her to get knocked up again, and then come back with a country album. I just hope her country album is nothing like the country songs she put out in the past, like "Tie It Up". I want something more like those songs she sang at that private concert that she did during the All I Ever Wanted Tour. Songs like "Call Me", "So Far Apart", and other songs that appear to have been taken off of YouTube. But, I will say this, "Good Goes The Bye" is the only song I've ever truly loved from her that she put on a record that has the country sound to it. It's so good. With that said, I'm with y'all on being disappointed in the lackluster support this era. Piece By Piece is a damn good album, and I think it's probably my favorite album from her. It's such a shame that a good album is being overlooked by so many. Oh well, I hope whatever label she is on next supports her albums more, and also I hope she is feeling it next time too. I can't blame her much for not putting her all into this era with River being the center of her attention, but it still sucks. No matter what, I'll root for Kelly. Her fashion sense may have gotten worse (lord wtf was she wearing at BBC Radio 1?), but her vocals still trump a lot of singers out there. She will always be my #1 Queen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 14:12:11 GMT -5
Do people even do residencies in Nashville? I didn't realize that was a thing. Not that I know of (unless the Grand Ole Opry semi-counts), but if some country singers wanted to start the trend they could probably pull it off pretty well.
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Post by Max_X5 on Jun 9, 2015 15:24:38 GMT -5
It would never work in Nashville. With the high traffic of tours there already, lower tourist to locals ratio than in Vegas, and general heavy music saturation in the city, residencies would not be able to consistently draw crowds like they do in Vegas.
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Post by bitchplease on Jun 9, 2015 21:02:20 GMT -5
kelly wont do vegas. here in vegas we are very image oriented with smokes and mirrors, n kelly is um NOT. kelly is also not a huge celebrity and hasnt been big internationally since breakaway era. what if for example the caesar palace big bosses ask kelly to drop 30 pounds? ya'll know its not gonna go well with our girl. her principal somewhat limits her career opportunity, and it'll get more and more obvious as she gets older. its happening already with pop radio and this young itunes digital generation, they arent checking for kelly at all. but she is happy, and thats all that matters.
ive been watching Invincible stripped down UK performance. its so good, its almost perfect, aside from her outfit. that and the At Last performance, both were outstanding!!! her voice is magical!!!
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Post by area51 on Jun 10, 2015 16:02:03 GMT -5
After 14 weeks, Piece By Piece has sold roughly 175,600.
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 10, 2015 21:50:06 GMT -5
I can't believe it's been 14 weeks
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jun 10, 2015 22:30:44 GMT -5
Nothing much for me to add other than... - it wouldn't make sense for Nick Jonas to open for Kelly in the USA, considering he's already pretty well-known. A joint-tour maybe.
- all my other faves better spread out their releases between the next 4 years if Kelly's planning on getting pregnant again.
- a list with less than 3 points shouldn't be a list.
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Post by musiclover98 on Jun 11, 2015 0:40:07 GMT -5
14 weeks already. The world will never know how great this album is I guess.
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Post by bigb0882 on Jun 11, 2015 12:48:34 GMT -5
I was thinking about Kelly's tour and the fan request.
Has she ever performed Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun? I know it is a rock song but it has a really beautiful melody that Kelly could really sing the hell out of it and the bridge of the song would allow her to really tear it up. She could slow it down to an even more jazzy version and it would be gorgeous. I really think she could kill it on this song. Will someone request it if they are going to a show!?
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Post by StrongBreakaway on Jun 11, 2015 14:58:25 GMT -5
So basically PBP stopped selling at 200k WW.. maybe a wonder could bring it to 500k.
Too bad the world probably won't get to hear its innovatice moments..
btw, I'd love to hear her sing Sarah McLachlan's Building A Mystery!
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Post by AP on Jun 11, 2015 15:05:25 GMT -5
10 bucks says she performs "Fight Song" at least once this tour.
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Post by getonthebus on Jun 11, 2015 15:57:10 GMT -5
10 bucks says she performs "Fight Song" at least once this tour. She is 100% definitely going to MURDER Fight Song. I'd also put money on Love Me Like You Do, Chandelier or Elastic Heart, Girl Crush, Habits or Moments (she briefly stanned for Tove), and Shut Up and Dance. I want to add All About That Bass.
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Post by BDGeek on Jun 11, 2015 16:15:15 GMT -5
I need her to cover "Take Me to Church" and "Pretty Girls."
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Post by Focus on Jun 11, 2015 19:01:12 GMT -5
I was thinking about Kelly's tour and the fan request. Has she ever performed Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun? I know it is a rock song but it has a really beautiful melody that Kelly could really sing the hell out of it and the bridge of the song would allow her to really tear it up. She could slow it down to an even more jazzy version and it would be gorgeous. I really think she could kill it on this song. Will someone request it if they are going to a show!? No she hasn't but that's a great suggestion. What a fantastic song. My request is going to be "Good Times" by INXS and Jimmy Barnes. It's another great rock song that Kelly would sing the hell out of.
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 12, 2015 16:21:33 GMT -5
My request is some ROXETTE. It Must Have Been Love and Listen to Your Heart-->YAS
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Post by bitchplease on Jun 12, 2015 16:24:59 GMT -5
omg a big yaaass to roxette. crash boom bang, spending my time or queen of rain would be heaven.
and yes, the single choice/contenders have been weird this era. dor the first time on a kelly era that my choices do not synch at all w what label's plan (Invincible, run3x, piece by piece). ive been on team LYTF, dabce with me, GGTB since the beginning
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Post by neally on Jun 12, 2015 19:34:26 GMT -5
My request is some ROXETTE. It Must Have Been Love and Listen to Your Heart and Fading Like a Flower-->YAS Corrected
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Post by bitchplease on Jun 12, 2015 22:13:02 GMT -5
yay Kelly will be performing @macys Firework 4th of July!!! hmm it'd be interesting to see what she will be singing. don't they usually do 2 songs? remember during debut days when she opened this show and did America The Beautiful backed by a choir!!??? my god that was sooo good!
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jun 12, 2015 22:40:53 GMT -5
honestly I just need her to do some soulful Mariah cover...
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Post by Robert J on Jun 13, 2015 7:34:22 GMT -5
Kelly will absolutely murder "Take Me to Church." It's nowhere near my favourite song, but I need to hear that.
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Post by kmbgs on Jun 13, 2015 8:45:13 GMT -5
My request is some ROXETTE. It Must Have Been Love and Listen to Your Heart and Fading Like a Flower-->YAS Corrected Kelly really needs to get a Roxette-ish original track under her belt. It's funny that there isn't one on PBP (at least IMO) because it sits right in that late 80's sound that Roxette helped define.
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