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Post by getonthebus on Nov 5, 2015 16:31:19 GMT -5
In terms of artistry I like to think of Kelly as the anti-Beyonce woo lord shots fired
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Post by kmbgs on Nov 5, 2015 23:33:52 GMT -5
I really need Kelly to write that tell all book just telling us all how it has been, while she's breastfeeding her newborn son.
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Post by Live Your Life on Nov 6, 2015 0:18:41 GMT -5
If I remember right, she recently clocked an anonymous writer for getting a credit that should have been given to her, because the label "needed certain names" on a song to sell it to radio PDs. Most people took it as MLWSWY, specifically Claude Kelly, since radio was unsure about her after MD. This is correct - it was an interview with Digital Spy: For some reason I thought it was more so Dr. Luke who we figured Kelly was talking about - Claude only has writing credits on MLWSWY while Luke and Max have producer credits, and more of Kelly's shade was directed at producers. Also, Claude at least showed up on another song on AIEW, whereas Max and Luke only got the one song. But she hasn't worked with any of those guys since so it could be any or all of them. I can't recall which other interview it was now - I think it was a radio interview - but I also remember her mentioning once before that the demo lyrics to MLWSWY were garbage about 'I saw you smoking pot and I thought that was cool' or something and she insisted that they be changed. She stopped short of outright saying 'I changed them myself,' but along with the Digital Spy interview it was pretty easy to deduce, I think. Wow, this is all very interesting. I had never thought of songwriting credits from a PDs perspective, but I guess it does make sense that they would be more more likely to play a song if it were written/produced by the "in" producers at the time. That way, the likelihood of the audience responding to it well would be higher because of how they responded to the other songs created by those in demand producers. Another thing I've noticed over the years (not as much with Kelly's music) is producers having writing credits on songs in addition to production credits. I don't know if this is their way of "getting back" at the artists who take credit for songs they didn't write and/or produce or if the producers are possibly taking writing credit for simply writing a melody. The industry is just something else. It's very shady.
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Post by BDGeek on Nov 8, 2015 0:14:06 GMT -5
Yall! The song Justin Timberlake did with Chris Stapleton at the CMA awards would have been PERFECT with Kelly singing on it. Why won't someone invite her to duet on something like that? It doesn't have to be mainstream. Soulful blues is where Kelly is at her best IMO. And she can harmonize with anyone. I've been saying for years that Kelly and Chris should duet. If her country album still happens, he would be an ideal collaborator, along with Brandy Clark. In terms of artistry I like to think of Kelly as the anti-Beyonce Based on what we know of their approach to writing credits, that's true. I remember when Beyoncé changed one word of Jon McLaughlin's "Smack Into You" and claimed a writing credit for it. In contrast, Kelly seemingly ghostwrites entire songs, despite being an established superstar in her own right. Funny how differently artists go about these things.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Nov 8, 2015 19:34:12 GMT -5
Was just listening to Empty As I Am from one of her pre-shows. First off, its a crime that Twilight didn't include that in the soundtrack. Its so hauntingly beautiful and her vocals are so emotional. And its a crime Kelly has never released it on one of her albums. Maybe one day we can get a Smokestack Session with a few other fan favorites.
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Post by musicfan134 on Nov 8, 2015 21:46:15 GMT -5
^Really been feeling the Smokestack Sessions lately now that you mention it. Think we could get an album of those gems?
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Post by kmbgs on Nov 9, 2015 15:51:35 GMT -5
Meanwhile I'm patiently waiting until next Friday (the 20th) to start jamming to Wrapped in Red again.
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Post by QAF on Nov 9, 2015 16:15:20 GMT -5
The new single doesn't seem to be getting off to such a great start. This is so frustrating.
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Post by Nick on Nov 10, 2015 20:59:10 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson kelly🌷💞_clarkson 2 minutes agoMadi Davis, "Songbird" is my favorite song of all time & u just sang it so effortlessly! Loved that u sang it more like Eva Cassidy's version! Kelly is obviously watching "The Voice". I have a whole new respect for her. Fleetwood Mac is like my favorite group ever. Christine McVie would be proud
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Post by BDGeek on Nov 10, 2015 22:11:31 GMT -5
I see "Sunday Bloody Sunday" has been dethroned.
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Post by blujayyoungs on Nov 11, 2015 7:17:28 GMT -5
Ugh. This just sold approx 205,000 lol. Piece by Piece better smash. Please.
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Post by Max_X5 on Nov 11, 2015 9:11:36 GMT -5
I'm blocking the next person who posts or asks how much Piece By Piece has sold.
Ignorance is bliss. ;)
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 11, 2015 9:24:23 GMT -5
Meanwhile I'm patiently waiting until next Friday (the 20th) to start jamming to Wrapped in Red again. Why then?
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Post by kmbgs on Nov 11, 2015 10:17:40 GMT -5
Meanwhile I'm patiently waiting until next Friday (the 20th) to start jamming to Wrapped in Red again. Why then? That's when I usually break out the Xmas music however, we're gonna have to see if I make it through this weekend lol.
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Post by Illusions on Nov 11, 2015 15:44:54 GMT -5
I heard Winter Dreams in the mall today. Really wish they would push that to radio this year.
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Post by xline06 on Nov 11, 2015 17:05:44 GMT -5
I heard Winter Dreams in the mall today. Really wish they would push that to radio this year. RCA promoted some tracks featured Wrapped In Red last year. Winter Dreams (Brandon's Song) should be the next holiday single! Her christmas album is likely to be a diamond with festive melodies and powerful vocals. One of the best ones by her. The line of Winter Dreams, 4 Carats, My Favorite Things and Just For Now is the best moment of this album!
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 11, 2015 17:29:50 GMT -5
That's when I usually break out the Xmas music however, we're gonna have to see if I make it through this weekend lol. That's such a random date, lol.
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Post by bitchplease on Nov 11, 2015 20:45:49 GMT -5
Im on team Every Christmas. To me that song is in top 10 kelly song of all time, even top 5. She should rerecord it with Chris Stapleton as a xmas duet and release it to all formats. Her only Every Christmas performance nashville last year was jaw dropping amazing!! Then there are winter dreams & 4 carats for next couple holiday seasons. Run run rudolph, bells will be ringing and every christmas (track 4,5,6 back to back) really captured who kellly is as one of the finest vocalist in her generation. Im not sure RCA will still be pushing WIR this holiday, the cd didnt do as well as expected last holiday sales wise, with a single out. (WIR the single made it to #2 on AC), WIR was outsold by older holiday cds (even by blake's xmas cd iirc). IMO, RCA should keep promoting WIR (along with her NBC special) and push the album as a main stay classic holiday album (like mariah, michael bubble, josh groban's etc) and make them big $$ every year for the next 10+ yrs. But if RCA doesnt see big potential return, they would not invest on the project anymore. But what do i know, they r releasing PBP as a single from her mega flop cd, so there's hope.
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Post by bigb0882 on Nov 11, 2015 21:04:38 GMT -5
I agree, Every Christmas is one of her most amazing recordings. However, if you want a re-recording of it with a current hot artist (which I do think is a great idea) it is going to have to wait until next year since as far as we know she is still on vocal rest and would be unable to do promotion. If she did this next year she can release Winter Dreams this year and get another year out of it with Every Christmas next year.
Do we know if RCA is pushing a song this year to AC/HAC? The stations have begun playing Christmas music here so I would think it would need to happen soon. When did we find out last year that WIR was being pushed?
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Post by Kurt on Nov 11, 2015 21:30:58 GMT -5
When did we find out last year that WIR was being pushed? It was sent to radio on October 29. (thread) With no announcement yet and "Piece By Piece" being "pushed" (if you can call it that) to HAC right now, I don't expect another holiday single this year.
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Post by Revelry on Nov 11, 2015 22:38:20 GMT -5
I love all the originals on WIR, but the only song they need to continually push is Underneath the Tree. Its a classic in the making.
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Post by dbhmr on Nov 12, 2015 22:31:05 GMT -5
Entertainment Weekly has "Wrapped In Red" right near the center of their Bullseye page, saying "Regifted to you from 2013" or something. They continue to make up for the fact that they didn't give a proper (A) review.
Still love PBP, but I want her to make a 180 next. Give me raw, soulful, bluesy. Leave the need for an "anthem" alone. Pop radio isn't here for anything Kelly is serving that could have been found, more or less, on her GH album, it seems. I just want her to really explore her writing and her sound next, in any genre.
And release a damn covers album. I was listening to her AIEW-era covers--"Seven Nation Army" in particular--and I think it's something that could really take off. They've built that into her brand, so they should capitalize on it.
I also really want info on where she's signing and what those details are. I wonder if anything has even happened yet on that front.
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Post by kmbgs on Nov 13, 2015 11:21:53 GMT -5
Agree. I want Kelly to just give us something out of left field. As much as I love them, apparently the general public is not here for what has become her staple anthem sound anymore.
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Post by divasummer on Nov 13, 2015 13:06:29 GMT -5
Kelly's Christmas cd sounds like a Christmas cd that has been around for years. It just fits in with all other Christmas classics. Kind of like how Mariah's "All I Want For Christmas Is You" fit in with other Holiday classics during that time.
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Post by rahulv on Nov 15, 2015 0:13:47 GMT -5
Hope you'll are voting for Kelly for People's choice.
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Post by kmbgs on Nov 15, 2015 9:00:38 GMT -5
I love Kelly tweeting during the democratic debate
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Post by Focus on Nov 16, 2015 9:19:54 GMT -5
70 49 KELLY CLARKSON Piece By Piece 207 84 123 0.61
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Post by bitchplease on Nov 16, 2015 9:33:24 GMT -5
Yay finally it made top 50, with only 20 something stations on board. More stations need to add PBP. still over 100 hot AC stations to go. Are they not gonna bother sending it to pop radio at all? This era has done poorly with radio. Kelly totally lost pop radio support, while she also lost her hold as hotAC radio queen.
Sandy, do we have the HQ of piece by piece new radio edit? As far as i know they havent gone on digital retailers yet.
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Post by kmbgs on Nov 16, 2015 13:00:34 GMT -5
Did Invincible ever have a bullet that "big" (legitimate question)
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Post by AP on Nov 16, 2015 13:11:51 GMT -5
Did Invincible ever have a bullet that "big" (legitimate question) Yes, at times Invincible's bullet was over 450 on Hot AC.
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