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Post by Au$tin on Feb 27, 2016 14:34:08 GMT -5
The studio version is not bad. Don't get all the hate. I don't think anyone really "hates" it. It's just pale in comparison to the stripped down version she gave us on American Idol. The radio mix, on the other hand, is bad. Since Billboard is know for making rule changes on the fly aka "The Eagles" rule, the the "Whitney" rule, etc. Any chance for the "Kelly" rule aka Facebook streaming? Clearly this song has captured America with the sales of single(s) and album(s) to back it. It's too bad radio is so slow to respond. Seriously, what would CHR, AC and HAC have to lose by doing an instant add to rotation? It's clear the public is eating this up in massive way. Doubtful. Facebook is criticized by several media tracking companies because even 1 second of a view counts and just scrolling through your feed causes videos to begin automatically.
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Post by BDGeek on Feb 27, 2016 14:44:49 GMT -5
The original studio version and the stripped down version are both great in different ways. The studio version has a glorious vocal/dynamic build that's really enhanced by the production. The "I will never leave her like you left me" line in the final chorus always gives me chills. The stripped version is much more nuanced. I don't think it would have quite as profound an effect were it not paired with the visual/situation of a pregnant original Idol paying homage to the show in its final season. But the full package is quite poignant.
The radio mix, however, completely robs the original of its build and humanity. That version can leave.
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Post by BDGeek on Feb 27, 2016 14:54:30 GMT -5
It's crazy how Kelly has repeatedly proven to be the comeback kid in her career:
1. "Miss Independent" smashes after people write her off as an irrelevant talent show winner. 2. "Breakaway" dominates following the underperformance of the other Thankful singles, laying the groundwork for a massive album era. 3. "My Life Would Suck Without You" shatters records after the My December debacle. 4. "Stronger" becomes her biggest hit after many declare she has already peaked. 5. "Piece By Piece" resuscitates an album era that all but died a year earlier.
The cream always rises to the top.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 27, 2016 15:17:00 GMT -5
The studio version is not bad. Don't get all the hate. I don't think anyone really "hates" it. It's just pale in comparison to the stripped down version she gave us on American Idol. The radio mix, on the other hand, is bad. Since Billboard is know for making rule changes on the fly aka "The Eagles" rule, the the "Whitney" rule, etc. Any chance for the "Kelly" rule aka Facebook streaming? Clearly this song has captured America with the sales of single(s) and album(s) to back it. It's too bad radio is so slow to respond. Seriously, what would CHR, AC and HAC have to lose by doing an instant add to rotation? It's clear the public is eating this up in massive way. Doubtful. Facebook is criticized by several media tracking companies because even 1 second of a view counts and just scrolling through your feed causes videos to begin automatically. I didn't realize FB was THAT sensitive - but I suppose it's to FB advantage to create the perception that things are more popular than they actually are. Something like that would be far worse than the "HS" 30-second mess.
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Post by musicfan134 on Feb 27, 2016 15:23:19 GMT -5
Predictions to where PxP ends up on the charts next week?
Any chance she breaks the biggest jump on the Billboard 200 so she holds the record for biggest jump on both the Hot 100 and Billboard 200?
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Post by Focus on Feb 27, 2016 15:39:34 GMT -5
If you want to cry more tears, just listen to this reaction to Kelly's Idol performance from one of the dj's on Elvis Duran's show. :'(
https%3A//soundcloud.com/wooferson5/elvis-duran-2-26
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Post by Unhinged on Feb 27, 2016 15:54:18 GMT -5
Predictions to where PxP ends up on the charts next week? Any chance she breaks the biggest jump on the Billboard 200 so she holds the record for biggest jump on both the Hot 100 and Billboard 200? It's still a bit early to tell where this will end up in the BB 100, I'm hoping for a Top 10 debut which could be possible if her sales continue at their current rate and if they service the new version this week. A top 10 debut would mean Kelly would have at least one Top 10 from each of her studio albums (excluding Wrapped in Red). :)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 17:54:31 GMT -5
Predictions to where PxP ends up on the charts next week? Any chance she breaks the biggest jump on the Billboard 200 so she holds the record for biggest jump on both the Hot 100 and Billboard 200? It's still a bit early to tell where this will end up in the BB 100, I'm hoping for a Top 10 debut which could be possible if her sales continue at their current rate and if they service the new version this week. A top 10 debut would mean Kelly would have at least one Top 10 from each of her studio albums (excluding Wrapped in Red). :) If they rush a new radio-ready edit on Monday morning (or even if stations just play existing versions), it'll have a week's worth of airplay to add to its debut point total. I'm very curious to see if radio jumps on this immediately or does another Drink You Away and it's too late, etc. I'm not counting on radio to move super quickly, unfortunately. At least not on a substantial level. Please let me be wrong.
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Post by ILLUSION on Feb 27, 2016 18:07:14 GMT -5
Omg I've been off the grid a few days but STILL #1 BABY! Omg! AND we are getting another version!!!
Any news of this being released to radio?
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Post by kmbgs on Feb 27, 2016 18:13:26 GMT -5
All of this makes me so happy inside. First because I'm happy that Kelly is getting the validation she deserves - she must be so happy this song in particular is clicking in such an immediate way with the public. Second, I'm glad to see she still has the hustle in her. I was really saddened with how she seemed to treat the PBP era as an obligation and almost a distraction from her family and eventually second pregnancy. This makes me realize the girl is not trying to fade away just yet and has some drive to forge continued success in the music industry even as she raises her family.
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Post by Libra on Feb 27, 2016 18:15:56 GMT -5
If they rush a new radio-ready edit on Monday morning (or even if stations just play existing versions), it'll have a week's worth of airplay to add to its debut point total. I'm very curious to see if radio jumps on this immediately or does another Drink You Away and it's too late, etc. I'm not counting on radio to move super quickly, unfortunately. At least not on a substantial level. Please let me be wrong. I think there's a level of difference between the two, because "Drink You Away" hopped into the Top 50 three years after its parent album's lead single landed - plus, its era had effectively been done and over with for over a year by that point anyway. It can be argued that the Piece By Piece era wasn't...technically, "over" (albeit that it certainly would have been had this not happened) - the song literally just left the Hot AC chart almost 2 weeks ago. So, it's much easier for this to have a sizable impact, especially if it's going to be getting an overt push (which would seem to be the case), which...correct me if I'm wrong, but DYA has/had pretty much been on its own, hasn't it?
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Post by bb on Feb 27, 2016 18:35:46 GMT -5
This is why I love being a fan of Kelly. A song that comes out of nowhere, stuns millions of people, and goes almost instantly viral not because of theatrics, or gimmickry, or controversy, but because of authenticity and artistry and that VOICE. It's the clearest affirmation, I think, of how much selling power she still has as a vehicle of honesty. The perfect way to close this 15-year journey, and a wonderful way to welcome the next phase of her career-- one that hopefully has learned from this viral moment that people love Kelly for her voice, her openness, and her truth. Leave the commercial pandering behind, and explore what makes her such a compelling artist. I couldn't be more excited to see where she goes next.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 19:25:14 GMT -5
If they rush a new radio-ready edit on Monday morning (or even if stations just play existing versions), it'll have a week's worth of airplay to add to its debut point total. I'm very curious to see if radio jumps on this immediately or does another Drink You Away and it's too late, etc. I'm not counting on radio to move super quickly, unfortunately. At least not on a substantial level. Please let me be wrong. I think there's a level of difference between the two, because "Drink You Away" hopped into the Top 50 three years after its parent album's lead single landed - plus, its era had effectively been done and over with for over a year by that point anyway. It can be argued that the Piece By Piece era wasn't...technically, "over" (albeit that it certainly would have been had this not happened) - the song literally just left the Hot AC chart almost 2 weeks ago. So, it's much easier for this to have a sizable impact, especially if it's going to be getting an overt push (which would seem to be the case), which...correct me if I'm wrong, but DYA has/had pretty much been on its own, hasn't it? Maybe DYA was a bad example of the point/comparison I was trying to make. I'm really just referencing radio's reaction to a hugely received live performance, regardless of label push. That will definitely help matters. I just hope the reaction/airplay is more immediate as to help its debut on the H100. Long term is needed too, or course.
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 27, 2016 19:34:15 GMT -5
Just relaized basically all of Kelly's hits got iTunes reaction after the performance besides my life would suck without you. Her other biggest hits , stronger & since you been gone got huge boosts yet my life would suck without you didn't even crack the top 1500, yet her hits not as successful as that did chart
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Post by musicfan134 on Feb 27, 2016 20:00:55 GMT -5
^Yeah I noticed that too that MLWSWY was nowhere to be found on iTunes. I wonder why that is?
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 27, 2016 20:09:01 GMT -5
^ my only guess is that the idol performance was a sad one, and my life would suck without you is a happy song . All her other songs have themes of sadness/anger/ or moving on
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Post by toomuchboy on Feb 27, 2016 20:49:18 GMT -5
The studio version is not bad. Don't get all the hate. I've never heard the radio mix, but the album version of PbP was always a gutpunch for me. I often skip it when listening to the album, not because it's bad but because I want to avoid becoming a sobbing mess if I'm in a good mood. At first I thought she must've cut out the bridge as a safe choice for where she is vocally at the moment, but how appropriate the stripped down version on Idol turned it into more of a lullaby.
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Post by Focus on Feb 27, 2016 20:50:12 GMT -5
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Post by Ryan on Feb 27, 2016 21:04:17 GMT -5
6,115,648 VIEWS on YouTube!
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 27, 2016 21:04:25 GMT -5
Lol at piece by piece outselling invincible's total sales to date in one week
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Post by karatekid on Feb 27, 2016 21:19:42 GMT -5
how is it outselling Rihanna by so much yet only 10k more copies ?
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Post by bigb0882 on Feb 27, 2016 21:32:04 GMT -5
It is a prediction, maybe Rihanna will overtake Kelly by the end of the period but not quite be able to catch her. Will this give her a Billboard #1 on Digital Songs? I mean, how incredible!! I hope that prediction pans out. It is too close to be sure.
If they release the piano version will it add to the total or count as a separate entry? Not sure how that works.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 21:36:50 GMT -5
how is it outselling Rihanna by so much yet only 10k more copies ? iTunes tracking week is Monday to Sunday. Rihanna has had a full week to sell 189k, while Kelly's numbers are pretty much all coming from just the last three days. She's in dark red on Kworb right now (still with a pretty decent lead on Rihanna though) but I am hoping that she's part of the Monday news cycle, and then the studio version of the performance will be out in time to keep her at or near the top. bigb0882 as long as at least 50% of the original composition is present in any alternate versions/remixes, they are all added together as one total. And yep, if Kworb's guess is on point this should give her that Digital Songs #1 I don't know about the Hot 100...the formula changed recently (streaming is not as heavy and sales are weighted a bit more, it seems), and I was never great at Hot 100 predictions anyway. But it looks like top 15 is almost a given now, with a decent chance of cracking the top 10.
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Post by xline06 on Feb 27, 2016 21:56:14 GMT -5
Upcoming new version of Piece By Piece will do better than original version definitely, so I don't care if Rihanna passes Kelly in a few time. Kelly has an advantage to get seperated tracks as one. It's up to the new version which takes it all. I can't wait for next Monday!
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Post by karatekid on Feb 27, 2016 23:04:14 GMT -5
how is it outselling Rihanna by so much yet only 10k more copies ? iTunes tracking week is Monday to Sunday. Rihanna has had a full week to sell 189k, while Kelly's numbers are pretty much all coming from just the last three days. She's in dark red on Kworb right now (still with a pretty decent lead on Rihanna though) but I am hoping that she's part of the Monday news cycle, and then the studio version of the performance will be out in time to keep her at or near the top. bigb0882 as long as at least 50% of the original composition is present in any alternate versions/remixes, they are all added together as one total. And yep, if Kworb's guess is on point this should give her that Digital Songs #1 I don't know about the Hot 100...the formula changed recently (streaming is not as heavy and sales are weighted a bit more, it seems), and I was never great at Hot 100 predictions anyway. But it looks like top 15 is almost a given now, with a decent chance of cracking the top 10. thanks! and wow selling that much in 3 days! that's insane! I hope it can sneak into the top 10 and have some longevity... and wishful thinking would be another single after but that would just be icing :)
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Post by kmbgs on Feb 27, 2016 23:38:56 GMT -5
Damn I thought the sales tracking week changed from Friday to Thursday with the universal Friday release date that changed last year
Edit: yeah I'm right
For all sales-based charts (ranking both albums and tracks), Billboard and Nielsen will change the chart reporting period to cover the first seven days of an album's release. This will result in an adjusted sales period of Friday to Thursday, as opposed to the Monday to Sunday cycle that has been utilized since the advent of Nielsen Music's point-of-sales tracking in 1991.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 0:03:41 GMT -5
^Oh so they changed single sales for that too? I thought for the singles charts they chose to move the airplay and streaming tracking weeks to Friday-Thursday and left sales as they were...but I swear I have the hardest time keeping up with how each component is measured now. (FWIW I would still predict at least a top 15 peak - and if they get the new version out by Tuesday then all the better, as that 199k estimate will almost surely go up.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 4:33:30 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson made me cry . You kinda have to be damaged somewhere to relate like most of us but wow!! what a live performance of Piece by Piece . I don't even like the studio version and watching a real singer do it live and with real emotions. Not that forced thing singers call emotion . Was just breathtaking.
In a day and age when the studio version is the ONLY version it's pretty dope to to say once again her live performance of an song is better than her studio performance of it. I know others with less tone and vocal range get way more hype and credit than Kelly does doing basically what Kelly has now been doing for decades but on that stage you saw the master at work.
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Post by Ryan on Feb 28, 2016 7:01:44 GMT -5
8,018,603 VIEWS on Youtube and at this rate, it could easily cross 10M views today.
So y'all should just watch it again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 9:31:53 GMT -5
She needs to go to Ellen, and a few other places to seal the deal.
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