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Post by Unhinged on May 3, 2017 15:10:32 GMT -5
Looking fucking fierce at the gala. Love the hair!
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Post by chartfreak on May 4, 2017 21:50:39 GMT -5
I still don't understand the grillz.
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Post by josh on May 5, 2017 8:39:36 GMT -5
Die Another Day came on my shuffle this morning and I was struck by how typical is sounds in the year 2017. Back in 2003, I remember how crazy the effects on her vocals were. Now they just sound normal.
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Post by bat1990 on May 5, 2017 16:07:05 GMT -5
Madge has always been far ahead of trends (except for MDNA).
Die Another Day in 2002, working with Pharell in 2008 the sound of which lead to things like "Blurred Lines" and "Get Lucky", Chance the Rapper on "Iconic"
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 6, 2017 14:10:54 GMT -5
^She did work with Timbaland in 2008, too, kinda "late" in that game. ;) And she also worked with some mainstream R&B collaborators for Bedtime Stories (while also working with the less mainstream Nellee Hooper)- but, she had done that, too, with Nile Rodgers for LAV. But, yes, for the most part, she's ahead of the pack.
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Post by addict03 on May 6, 2017 17:51:50 GMT -5
For me it isn't about being ahead of the pack, but making great music that even pushed the sound of the producer. At her best, she does that so well. The Pharell sound on HC was far better for me. Sticky and sweet. I loved the production on the songs more than the lyrics. Had she really only used Pharell and had lyrical content with more substance (ala COAD) then I think HC would have been a wonderful pop/RnB record.
Amyhow, I could go on and on about how HC and MDNA could have been improved. Both however gave us some great tracks and wonderful world tours.
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Post by August on May 9, 2017 6:28:40 GMT -5
Hey New Yorkers...Choir! Choir! Choir! is doing a night of Madonna, Prince, and Michael Jackson at the Cutting Room on May 25th. I am totally going. If you don't know what it is, they basically take a theater full of non-professional singers and turn them into a choir to sing pop songs. It looks like a blast.
Here are some samples:
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 9, 2017 10:50:40 GMT -5
Die Another Day, to me, still remains her most forward-thinking single. It was also her last big solo radio hit in the US. In terms of being ahead of the pack and setting trends and being futuristic and cool, I don't know how she could've topped it.
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Post by So Pure on May 10, 2017 1:06:10 GMT -5
Hung Up & 4 Minutes ( thanks to Justin) were the last big U.S. hits. Just saying!
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Post by addict03 on May 10, 2017 3:48:29 GMT -5
Y'all are forgetting the massive smash Give Me All Your Luvin' 😂😂😂😂
Rebel Heart is just wonderful. I must say. So many wonderful tracks. A veteran act among an album of this calibre this late into her career? Bellissimo!
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Post by kmbgs on May 10, 2017 10:26:28 GMT -5
Devil Pray came on shuffle this morning at the gym. I was stretching, and gave full on stripper head whips when that beat dropped.
Serve me queen.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on May 10, 2017 18:43:53 GMT -5
In what can be called gay theater queen sacrilege...Patti Lupone is awful. I have seen her on Broadway 4 different times and every time I kept thinking, "Why does everyone love her?" I much prefer Madonna's Eva Peron. Much more delicious. Patti LuPone puts ‘movie killer’ Madonna on blastBy Jaclyn Hendricks May 10, 2017 | 9:36am Patti LuPone has some harsh words for Madonna. During an appearance on Tuesday’s episode of “Watch What Happens Livve with Andy Cohen,” the 68-year-old Broadway icon blasted the pop diva’s acting chops from the 1996 musical, “Evita,” in which Madonna, 58, took on the lead role of Eva Perón, originally made famous by LuPone. “Well, I was on the treadmill when MTV used to have videos, and I saw, I believe it was Buenos Aires and I thought it was a piece of s–t,” LuPone sniped. “Madonna is a movie killer, she’s dead behind the eyes, she cannot act her way out of a paper bag, she should not be in film or on stage. She’s a wonderful performer for what she does, but she is not an actress. Bang.” LuPone, who won the Tony Award for her performance in “Evita” in 1980, also recalled her first and only encounter with the Grammy winner. “I did meet her after her opening night party, and the only thing that Madonna has ever said to me was, ‘I’m taller than you.’ Bada bing,” LuPone shared. LuPone also weighed in on the 2012 film production of “Les Miserables,” as she starred in the original 1985 London production as the iconic Fantine. “I only saw a little bit of it, but I’ll tell you, I’m going to be honest, I think the only person who knows how to do movie musicals, or musicals on camera, is Rachel Bloom in ‘Crazy Ex-Girlfriend.’ She is the only one that understands how to go from dialogue to song so that it makes sense. Her camera department knows how to shoot these rather large production numbers,” she said. “And what I saw in “Les Mis” … I didn’t see “Les Mis” after I left it. I’m too involved in it to go see it. But what I did see, I wondered why the hell they were doing close-ups of these people so that you were seeing the snot, you were seeing down their throat. You were not seeing the scene that perpetuated this emotion in this song.” While Anne Hathaway portrayed Fantine in the live-action adaptation, LuPone jabbed not everyone is equipped to take on musicals. “I just … I don’t know why people assume they can do musicals or make movie musicals without ever having been involved with the process of making a musical,” LuPone noted. “That’s the thing I don’t understand.”
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Post by areyoureadytojump on May 10, 2017 19:14:04 GMT -5
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 10, 2017 21:07:57 GMT -5
I thought the first half was amazing really. There are some not so good parts at the end....like the crying scene wasn't very good, but she absolutely nailed some other parts and I think she's a terrible actress overall in other movies. Evita is her best by far.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on May 10, 2017 21:16:31 GMT -5
I thought the first half was amazing really. There are some not so good parts at the end....like the crying scene wasn't very good, but she absolutely nailed some other parts and I think she's a terrible actress overall in other movies. Evita is her best by far. I still love that she chose to sing the song live instead of using the studio version in this scene because it made it even more heartbreaking and powerful.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on May 11, 2017 6:56:33 GMT -5
Agree and sung live in one take. She did this way before Anne Hathaways I Dreamed a Dream which is also a stellar performance imo.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 11, 2017 12:04:34 GMT -5
Who does "Wendy" refer to in She's Not Me?
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Post by SHOOTER on May 11, 2017 13:19:44 GMT -5
Who does "Wendy" refer to in She's Not Me? Wendy Melvoin (of Prince & The Revolution/Wendy & Lisa); she's playing the acoustic guitar on the song.
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Post by Dreams on May 11, 2017 18:15:12 GMT -5
This sucks.
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Post by August on May 12, 2017 7:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by josh on May 12, 2017 9:43:26 GMT -5
Question about 'Jump' lyrics-at the end of the song, she repeats over and over 'I can make it alone' but she also repeats over and over 'my sisters and me.' So which is it? Can she make it alone or does she need her sisters?
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Post by jumpb4uthink on May 12, 2017 10:06:56 GMT -5
^ I've always interpreted it as her sisters can make it alone too.
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Post by chartfreak on May 13, 2017 12:48:55 GMT -5
I thought the first half was amazing really. There are some not so good parts at the end....like the crying scene wasn't very good, but she absolutely nailed some other parts and I think she's a terrible actress overall in other movies. Evita is her best by far. What?? I thought her crying scene at the end was brilliant and believable...I mean she's crying and singing. Regarding Rebel Heart live tracks cd/dvd combo...hope she can hit #1 and promotes around that time.
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 13, 2017 22:37:05 GMT -5
Hit No.1 where? Her other DVD/CD combos didn't in many territories, so not looking for this one to.
RE iEvita, I also thought she did a good job with the emotional scenes where she was singing live. The movie is flawed, especially in the second chalk where it's a big music video in spots, but, like Siskel & Ebert said, that probably has more to do with the source material itself
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Post by August on May 14, 2017 8:13:16 GMT -5
Hit No.1 where? Her other DVD/CD combos didn't in many territories, so not looking for this one to. RE iEvita, I also thought she did a good job with the emotional scenes where she was singing live. The movie is flawed, especially in the second chalk where it's a big music video in spots, but, like Siskel & Ebert said, that probably has more to do with the source material itself I am not sure there is any way it couldn't come across like a giant music video. I don't find that to be a bad thing though. The stage musical has no dialogue. Most stage musicals have dialogue, song, dialogue, song, etc. Evita is sung the entire way through like an opera...like Miss Saigon, Les Miserables, etc. Also, the stage show is way stripped down in terms of sets and the overall look. Film gives you lots of freedom to interpret. So I think that gives it that music video feel when it is up on the screen. Also, the original concept album was from 1976 and then the stage show in 1979. So I think styles and interpretation changed over the course of 20 years from conception to the screen version. By and large, I thought she was fantastic in it...and this is from someone who cringes at her other work like Who's That Girl, Body of Evidence, Next Best Thing, etc. I am not sure the other actresses up for the role would have captured it as well. At various points, Liza Minelli, Barbra Streisand, Goldie Hawn, and Michelle Pfeiffer were up for it. Michelle even recorded demos, which can be found on Youtube. No disrespect to these women, but I just could never imagine any of them in the role. Maybe Michelle Pfeiffer, but based on the demos, I am not sure her voice would have been up to it. If you want a good laugh, watch the Faye Dunaway film "Evita Perón." It is a TV movie from NBC in 1981. It is basically Faye Dunaway playing Joan Crawford playing Eva Peron.
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 14, 2017 10:47:07 GMT -5
^The first half has more of the characters interacting and acting out their music, whereas the second half has more images set to the music- but, that makes sense, especially when Che, the observer, is singing. But in spots, that's the way the play was written, so, again, that's the source material, and Alan Parker was staying true to that. More, too, that for "You Must Love Me," he filmed that scene with a collage of images- we don't see Eva singing/acting out the song. But I find it effective, as it shows how she used to be, and how she was now struggling.
I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, either, but that could turn off some viewers who want to see nothing but the actors interacting and acting out the story.
I've never seen the Faye Dunaway film, nor the one that was released after Evita.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on May 14, 2017 17:19:15 GMT -5
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Post by chartfreak on May 14, 2017 20:20:00 GMT -5
Already #110 on Pop...how high can it go?
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Post by jenglisbe on May 14, 2017 21:13:03 GMT -5
working with Pharell in 2008 the sound of which lead to things like "Blurred Lines" and "Get Lucky", Chance the Rapper on "Iconic" Huh? Pharrell was co-producing hits like "Hot In Herre" in 2002, "Hollaback Girl" in 2004, etc.
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Post by addict03 on May 14, 2017 23:09:23 GMT -5
Yes but the sound he was working on with Madonna later found it self in 2013 on several tracks. The sound he used in the early 00's was not the same. He's a genius
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