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Post by jumpb4uthink on Jul 2, 2014 21:39:42 GMT -5
Something grandiose is going to happen with this era. She is really putting her all and more for months on the album. I have a slight hunch that the first single or the album itself will evolve into an epic mini movie. That would be revolutionary.
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Post by floridagrl on Jul 3, 2014 7:47:58 GMT -5
Madonna + Strings = Madgeical. :) Love this! "Smiling with my boo! Nothing takes the past away............like the future! #livingforlove" -Madonna The King and Queen of music!
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Jul 3, 2014 8:11:31 GMT -5
Again floridagrl, thanks for you updates on M's Instagram posts. Your comments keep us revved up! :)
Speaking of chameleons, youre working with Madonna who is known for consistently reinventing herself. For you as a producer, is that a good thing because youre able to do whatever you want or is it a challenge?
DIPLO: I think with her I didnt know what to expect. I didnt know if we were going to actually make records or not. It was kind of like Id give her a week to see if the chemistry was there, but she was up for anything. I love when an artist gives a producer the confidence he needs to work with them, and Madonna was very very open-minded to my ideas. I really love that. A lot of times Im having to sell my projects and my ideas to them, but she was down from day one. Weve written about seven songs now, and hopefully maybe four or five will make it to the album. Ive done about three weeks with her, and were gonna do some more projects at the end of July. Shes just really cool. I think as far as artists reinventing themselves, she did it before anybody else. She kind of began that trend of actually coming back with a whole new look and style and sound and winning it and hitting the top of the charts. I dont think anybody had done it to that level. She works hard. In the studio, I was Googling her while I was working with her, and shes literally sold like 300 million copies of songs. Shes a force to be reckoned with. We had a lot of fun. Those records are gonna be crazy sounding. We really pushed the envelope with some of the stuff we were doing. The last night we were just having fun, and she was like, Yo, give me some of the craziest shit youve got right now, and we literally wrote a song that night on the craziest record I had. And it worked. All of the best songs happen on a whim.
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Post by botoxic on Jul 3, 2014 19:52:10 GMT -5
Just a random thought...
A strategy that has worked fairly well for Madonna in the past is to open an era with a song from a soundtrack. Often these songs are quite a departure from the style of music she is mainly focused on - to the extent that she doesn't believe they are cohesive with the album (and ultimately remain standalone). These songs traditionally have a more "adult" oriented sound, allowing Madonna to re-ingratiate herself to the general public before introducing the more radical production featured on the record/lead single.
Live to Tell This Used to Be My Playground I'll Remember American Pie Die Another Day Masterpiece (Considered, but the Superbowl performance rushed the release schedule) ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Jul 3, 2014 20:22:14 GMT -5
What a welcome surprise to see you back botoxic. :) Your post made me think that maybe Messiah may be for a soundtrack.
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Post by floridagrl on Jul 3, 2014 21:11:13 GMT -5
Again floridagrl, thanks for you updates on M's Instagram posts. Your comments keep us revved up! :) Thanks, Jumper. Same with you. ;) MUSIC NEWS Diplo: Madonna Asked for 'Craziest Record I Had' for New AlbumBy JON BLISTEIN | Jul 3, 2014 AT 10:25AMMadonna has been at work in the studio compiling the follow-up to her 2012 effort, MDNA, and one of the album's producers, Diplo, teased his process with the singer in a new interview with Idolator. How Madonna Became Madonna: An Oral History "We've written about seven songs now, and hopefully maybe four or five will make it to the album," the super-producer/DJ said. "I've done about three weeks with her, and we’re gonna do some more projects at the end of July. She’s just really cool. I think as far as artists reinventing themselves, she did it before anybody else. She kind of began that trend of actually coming back with a whole new look and style and sound and winning it and hitting the top of the charts. Those records are gonna be crazy-sounding. We really pushed the envelope with some of the stuff we were doing." While Diplo noted he typically needs around a week to know if there's chemistry with an artist, it was there immediately with Madonna. "She was up for anything," he said. "I love when an artist gives a producer the confidence he needs to work with them, and Madonna was very open-minded to my ideas… she was down from day one." Diplo spoke about the creation of one song in particular, which came about on their final night in the studio together: "The last night we were just having fun, and she was like, 'Yo, give me some of the craziest s**t you’ve got right now,' and we literally wrote a song that night on the craziest record I had. And it worked. All of the best songs happen on a whim." Proving his point, Diplo ticked off a few of his hits with similar spontaneous origins, including Alex Clare's "Too Close," Usher's "Climax" — which was made, per Diplo, "in literally like ten minutes" — and M.I.A.'s "Paper Planes," which came together on a roof in the Caribbean. Madonna has been intermittently teasing her upcoming record via Instagram. Earlier this week, the singer posted a photo of the sheet music for one track, "Messiah," as well as a video of an orchestra playing a section of the cut. The singer had previously posted in-studio photos with Avicii and British singer/producer Natalia Kills. Read more: www.rollingstone.com/music/news/diplo-madonna-asked-for-craziest-record-i-had-for-new-album-20140703#ixzz36Sfur2Ig Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook I love all the promo she is getting from Billboard and Rollingstone and everywhere else, and she hasn't even released her music yet. Everyone is waiting for the return of The Queen!!! "Has anyone seen my grilzzzzz? #unapologeticbitch" -Madonna My God, this woman is gorgeous!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 4, 2014 7:37:35 GMT -5
That pic looks to be from a paparazzi shot.
Hopefully she and Diplo have come up with some killer stuff.
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Jul 4, 2014 12:25:52 GMT -5
I'm really excited for that Madonna/Diplo collab. I love most of his productions.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Jul 5, 2014 14:05:16 GMT -5
I'm not quite sure what this article is trying to imply butt interesting read nonetheless.
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What’s behind Madonna’s Messiah GIAMPIERO on July 4, 2014 at 10:46 am
You may wonder what’s behind Madonna’s Messiah. For sure Messiah is not blasphemous and it has nothing to do with Madonna singing something like “I’m the Messiah.”
We can expect Messiah being about speech and action, hatred and wisdom, emotions and true awareness, judgment and magic, evil spells and messianic consciousness, doubt and spirituality.
As usual, Madonna‘s haters are already criticizing without even knowing what the lyrics are. We are not surprised; Madonna has been constantly criticized and to some extent bullied for pretty much everything she has done in 30 years of career. Even adopting children from Africa was considered something to be blamed for. So, again, we are not surprised.
However, we would like to point out that 30 years have passed by since she released songs like Material Girl. A very long time. A lifetime. She has transformed and evolved and so has evolved what she wants to communicate. Most important, Madonna is a devoted Kabbalist and Kabbalah is present in everything Madonna has released since many many years.
So, if we want to have an idea of what Messiah will be about, we should not think about Jesus Christ and the Gospels, but it is again in the Kabbalah that we should look.
For the Kabbalist the Messiah is not a physical person, but a light from above that affects us – when we tune into its frequency – and corrects us. A spiritual force that connects us to the Universe and the spiritual world. Everyone has his own Messiah. For each of us it comes when we transform ourselves, when we improve ourselves and the lives of the people who are around us. We get closer to it when we work on controlling our Ego. We become more separated from it when we focus on negative aspects of the reality, when we fall into harsh judgments. Waiting for the Messiah equals to wisdom: it is a time for actively preparing for its coming, a skill to improve and strengthen. As usual, an internal agency.
From a Kabbalistic point of view, the forces of evil can derive sustenance from harsh judgement, when it begins to focus on the negative aspects of all parts of reality.
Important are also the characters of Balak and Balaam – from the Zorah – who were magicians and sorcerers. There was an admixure between Balak and Balaam, as well as the good and the evil aspects are interrelated. Balak and Balaam comprised both evils: the evil of Cain and the evil of Abel. Balak was a magician while Balaam was a sorcerer. A sorcerer’s power is just in his mouth. So Balaam was the evil breath that issues from the mouth. Balak instead had wisdom and expressed through action. Balaam speaks and Balak acts. Magic is performed with the hand.
We know that you are really looking forward to hear it. As you do have great expectations on this forthcoming album. Her 13th Studio album. This is a number that has a huge importance in Kabbalah and true fans know that it is everywhere in Madonna‘s work. Maybe this is why we haven’t seen her so focused on an album in years. Not to mention all the images that she has posted related to it, with many hints. We know that for Madonna nothing happens for a coincidence and there is a reason for everything in her artistic choices.
In 2002 in an interview published on Genre Magazine Madonna stated:
Because the creator – if you believe there is a larger energy force out there, whatever you want to call it – light, the creator, God, he, she, it – wanted to share, wanted to give something to something, and created. The whole Adam and Eve story is a metaphor essentially, but it’s all based on the concept of earning things and bread of shame. You know what bread of shame is, right? Bread of shame is when you have everything and you haven’t earned it. It’s like when you spoil a kid. You give them everything and they short circuit. It just brings chaos into your life, because you haven’t earned any of it. That goes for everybody. Whenever you get something and you haven’t earned it, it will work against you. So the idea is that the creator created us as vessels, that we would work at filling up our vessel, which we would earn the things we had in the first place. And that’s the metaphor of the story of the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve started off with everything, and then they ate from the tree of knowledge – good and bad.
Now, we are used to the story of Adam and Eve as we know from the Genesis, but there are several other versions of this story. According to one particularly beloved by the kabbalists, Adam and Eve were created together and united as one entity, comprising in itself all the opposites in perfect balance. Once the physical universe was formed, things became separated and they saw themselves as separate, limited beings. We can see our path for the realization of our Self as a path for the restoration of that balance, of returning again to that sense of wholeness symbolized by Adam and Eve united again. We all are a spark from the original Adam/Eve, we all have the potential to achieve that balance and tune with the entire Universe.
The story of the Garden of Eden can be seen as the beginning of this journey, where the serpent can be seen as the vehicle for this restored balance and consciousness. Or we could say a vehicle for messianic consciousness. The Torah describes the enmity between humans and serpents by saying that humans will crush the heads of serpents, while serpents will bite the heels of humans. In the Kabbalah, head and heel are code words for epochs in the unfolding of creation. The head represents the earliest part of an era, while the heel represents the end of an era. According to this, we are currently in the heel phase of a six thousand year cycle, and when it ends, a messianic era begins. When the serpent bites at our heels, we are moving closer to the realization of messianic consciousness. When we step on its head, we will finally enter the new era, the messianic era.
As we can see, the concept of the Messiah is strongly connected with the story of Adam and Eve.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 5, 2014 18:34:55 GMT -5
^That site has kinda lost its luster in terms of news/viability in recent years.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jul 6, 2014 1:42:24 GMT -5
Although I think this album is going to be great cuz she's working on it so hard, I wouldn't go that deep into it, lol.
It's like the Little Monsters magnifying the ARTPOP album cover looking for clues. It's a little ridiculous.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 6, 2014 9:16:12 GMT -5
^Well, it is Madonna... but I'd agree. :) She often does have a point, and this Art For Freedom project reinforces it for the new album, but let's just wait and see- and hear- the actual stuff before dissection begins.
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Post by chartfreak on Jul 6, 2014 11:36:30 GMT -5
Well she did talk about Eve on Instagram, so there must be some connection with the whole Adam & Eve thing. I just want to enjoy the music.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Jul 6, 2014 12:02:53 GMT -5
I would hate these killer collaborators to give Madonna their absolute best, only to have it flop and the majority of people outside her core fan base not hear it. That said, as long as the material is strong, I will buy it.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 6, 2014 15:11:17 GMT -5
Her album is not going to do nearly as well as past efforts. Nonetheless, hopefully it is an impressive work. We're talking about a 30-plus-year career, after all, and if she can produce one of her best works at this stage, yay.
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Post by superbu on Jul 6, 2014 15:41:44 GMT -5
"Smiling with my boo! Nothing takes the past away............like the future!" That's actually kind of funny that Madonna would post this, because in the interviews in "The Michael Jackson Tapes," Michael made it pretty clear that he really didn't like Madonna very much; he thought she was obnoxious and "not a nice person." Unless he had a change of heart in the years after the interviews were done.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 6, 2014 18:38:45 GMT -5
^ I think Madonna felt like the most of us did about MJ when he was alive. "Weirdo!"
After he died, we all went "Awwwww. What a genius!"
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Post by seaguy27 on Jul 6, 2014 18:45:35 GMT -5
Her album is not going to do nearly as well as past efforts. Nonetheless, hopefully it is an impressive work. We're talking about a 30-plus-year career, after all, and if she can produce one of her best works at this stage, yay. If she does end up releasing a album with a lot of critical buzz, then I believe Madonna could sell quite well! She is after all still able to go gold with little to no radio and with a album that is considered mediocre by her standards.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 6, 2014 20:13:16 GMT -5
Some are having fun speculating that "Messiah" could be for the upcoming movie, The Giver. But, it's being released in mid-August, so...
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Jul 6, 2014 21:19:50 GMT -5
^ I think Madonna felt like the most of us did about MJ when he was alive. "Weirdo!" After he died, we all went "Awwwww. What a genius!" LOL thinking that you speak for the majority with this fail post. There's a reason why the whole world fell in love with Michael Jackson and his irrefutable talent. But...you should celebrate your uniqueness, I suppose.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 6, 2014 22:20:57 GMT -5
^No. In my circles, it was that MJ was a "Freak." Very talented, but so messed up.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 7, 2014 7:32:18 GMT -5
There's no doubt that many looked at MJ- despite his talent- not in the best light when he was alive. Whether for his eccentricities, the plastic surgeries, the unfortunate allegations, etc. But that's here nor there. What is not disputable is that his recurrent airplay and sales really took off following his passing, and maybe some of that other stuff now doesn't matter and people are able to focus just on the talent/music.
Madonna said they were not really friends. But, they did spent some time together, however short that period was, in 1991.
Anyhow... we continue to wait for some official info from Queen Ciccone.
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Post by floridagrl on Jul 7, 2014 9:00:21 GMT -5
"Salvation through Art! #heart #messiah #livingforlove" -Madonna I cannot wait to hear this. It's going to be brilliant.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Jul 7, 2014 10:46:01 GMT -5
I really love those lyrics. Very earthy Madonna. Rumor is Messiah may be a soundtrack to a movie this summer. I'm ready for some official album news. But as they say, patience is a virtue.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 7, 2014 11:53:40 GMT -5
Ooh- yes, spiritual Madonna. :)
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Jul 7, 2014 12:09:39 GMT -5
Very talented, but so messed up. OK, but, as a stan for a woman who has fucked Black men and effectively co-opted Black culture but somehow thought it was a good idea to call her White son a ***I'M RACIST***, you should be OK with this no?
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Post by SHOOTER on Jul 7, 2014 12:13:59 GMT -5
Those lyrics have me so excited!
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 7, 2014 12:21:45 GMT -5
Very talented, but so messed up. OK, but, as a stan for a woman who has f**ked Black men and effectively co-opted Black culture but somehow thought it was a good idea to call her White son a ***I'M RACIST***, you should be OK with this no? Welcome, the Michael Jackson Defense League! I don't think of MJ as a Messiah, like you do. ANYONE on this Earth can tell you MJ was extremely talented but also f*cked up due to this fame. What's wrong with a white woman having sex with a black man? It's not the 1960s anymore. I don't really understand why you are going after me. I'm extremely sympathetic towards Michael. But, then there is REALITY.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 7, 2014 12:36:00 GMT -5
Isn't it reap? LOL
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Post by Keelzit on Jul 7, 2014 13:42:09 GMT -5
Those lyrics give me major Frozen vibes!!!!
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