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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 22, 2014 9:32:05 GMT -5
Yes, by and large, Madonna looks to be a very strong ingredient in the process of how her songs end up. The Queen.
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Post by MiniMusic on Aug 22, 2014 10:18:25 GMT -5
This album will definitely be leagues beyond better than MDNA and Hard Candy. Give it to me!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 22, 2014 11:52:54 GMT -5
Well, we should wait to hear it before stating as much, but neither of those albums are among her greatest overall works, so I have hopes. :)
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Aug 22, 2014 13:59:42 GMT -5
madonna Back to the grind! The wheel of creativity! The cycle of creation! The vortex of divine dis satisfaction! #workbitch You forgot the picture, Jumpers. For the life of me floridagrl, I can't seem to post photos Must be iPad and iPhone :) More news Diplo offers more details about Madonna collaboration www.billboard.com/articles/news/ ... tion-and-8 Ever the source for information on Madonna’s upcoming album, Diplo has once again opened up about his time collaborating with her over the past few months. In a new interview with Billboard, Diplo talks about being in the studio with Madonna, how some of the tracks have evolved, and what happens when Madonna gets drunk on the job. Here are more details on Madonna upcoming album that Diplo shared with Billboard magazine than what we learned last night. Note that Billboard reports that Madonna’s upcoming album is expected to be released this fall! "I think three [tracks] are just like amazing, smashes." ~ Diplo Diplo and Ariel Rechtshaid have been in the studio with Madonna for three sessions in New York so far, and are clearly psyched about how the tracks are coming along. Madonna gravitated to the hook of a track that Diplo crafted with MNEK, a London songwriter who worked on the Disclosure album. When it became a Madonna song, Ariel Rechtshaid and MNEK went back into the studio to work out the verses. Right when Billboard’s Jonathan Ringen met Diplo for the cover story, Diplo’s phone rang. He answered it, joke-barking, “What do you want?” and then, before the person on the other end could speak, said, “Stop being a little bitch.” The next moment he turned serious. “Are you going to be in the studio? I need to get some stuff from you. Text me when I can meet you tonight.” It was Ariel Rechtshaid, and Diplo was trying to reach him to discuss four or five songs they’re working on for Madonna’s next album, especially that track crafted with MNEK. “That’s what I was talking to Ariel about,” says Diplo. “I need those verses. I want to wrap that up. That song is on like version 20. It went from a piano ballad to a ‘Turn Down for What’-style song, which I didn’t like. Now it’s somewhere in the middle, which is a more pop record.”
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 22, 2014 22:04:28 GMT -5
I have to post the pictures from my laptop, not my tablet or phone. It's just easier. DIPLO: "I'm in the studio with MADONNA" MadonnaTVonline Weekend Rock Question: What's the Best MTV VMAs Performance?Madonna's "Like a Virgin"? Neil Young's "Rockin' in the Free World"? Puff Daddy's Biggie Tribute? Cast your vote in our weekly poll Madonna performing on the 1984 MTV Video Music Awards at Radio City Music Hall in New York City, September 14, 1984.By Andy Greene | August 22, 2014 The MTV Video Music Awards air live from the Los Angeles Forum this Sunday night, and as usual, the awards themselves will almost be an afterthought: The big moments will all come from the performances. Everyone remembers the Miley Cyrus/Robin Thicke twerk-heard-around-the-world from last year, but how many recall that Justin Timberlake's "Mirrors" won Video of the Year? Now we have a question for you: What is the single greatest performance in the history of the MTV Video Music Awards? Anything back to the first broadcast 30 years ago counts, so feel free vote for Madonna and her upturned wedding dress doing "Like a Virgin" (1984), Neil Young and Pearl Jam teaming up for "Rockin' in the Free World" (1993), Sting's surprise appearance with Puff Daddy for "I'll Be Missing You" (1997), Justin Timberlake reuniting with 'N Sync (2013) or anything else from the long history of the show. You can vote here in the comments, on facebook.com/RollingStone or on Twitter using the hashtag #WeekendRock. www.facebook.com/RollingStone
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 22, 2014 22:26:25 GMT -5
I have a feeling that if the reception is good, that radio just might get on board as well.
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Post by grandelf on Aug 23, 2014 0:46:47 GMT -5
I have a feeling that if the reception is good, that radio just might get on board as well. Radio played ONE Madonna single in the past 12 years, which featured Justin Timberlake. After so many attempts, the tides won't change for her, it's just the way it is and it's pointless to pretend during each release that it might be different this time around.
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Post by seaguy27 on Aug 23, 2014 1:18:43 GMT -5
There is always a shot…it may be a long shot with any artist over 40 but it is there for a icon. Many have experienced an unexpected revival hit single late in their careers before. Madonna certainly do it if she creates something that is just too good to pass up.
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Post by grandelf on Aug 23, 2014 2:15:55 GMT -5
There is always a shot…it may be a long shot with any artist over 40 but it is there for a icon. Many have experienced an unexpected revival hit single late in their careers before. Madonna certainly do it if she creates something that is just too good to pass up. I'm sorry but this argument is completely faulty, you're saying everything that is embraced by radio is "good" but the hundreds of music that isn't is just "bad". Madonna was a dominant chart force for 20 years and then with American Life it stopped. Since then she had two "bonus" hits with Hung Up and 4 Minutes. Her new releases aren't treated the same way as they had been pre-2003 and just because fans will think her next single is one of her best, it doesn't mean that it's not going to be non-event for the majority of the people. It has been said many times that the general public does not want to see someone being eternally popular and a 56 year old woman is not getting a miraculous resurgence just because she is working with Avicii and Diplo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 6:18:32 GMT -5
I have a feeling that if the reception is good, that radio just might get on board as well. Radio played ONE Madonna single in the past 12 years, which featured Justin Timberlake. After so many attempts, the tides won't change for her, it's just the way it is and it's pointless to pretend during each release that it might be different this time around. In today's market, there's so many ways to achieve a hit single. Radio is obviously the first choice, but look what the Applause commercial did for that single. If we have a great lead single, I feel confident that this era can achieve some commercial success, without radio jumping on board.
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Post by cause_for_celebration on Aug 23, 2014 6:59:08 GMT -5
I'm not expecting a big hit, I just hope that this album is a good one, and that she really invests time into making an awesome music video for the lead single at least!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 23, 2014 10:49:57 GMT -5
It's possible that the label will have an airplay promo for the lead single, a la GMAYL, to give it exposure it may not see on radio otherwise. But, yeah, her chances of seeing a long, sustaining solo hit are slim, as they are for others who have been releasing music for multiple decades.
Tick / Tock- very true. Strong album, please.
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Post by seaguy27 on Aug 23, 2014 13:11:43 GMT -5
There is always a shot…it may be a long shot with any artist over 40 but it is there for a icon. Many have experienced an unexpected revival hit single late in their careers before. Madonna certainly do it if she creates something that is just too good to pass up. I'm sorry but this argument is completely faulty, you're saying everything that is embraced by radio is "good" but the hundreds of music that isn't is just "bad". Madonna was a dominant chart force for 20 years and then with American Life it stopped. Since then she had two "bonus" hits with Hung Up and 4 Minutes. Her new releases aren't treated the same way as they had been pre-2003 and just because fans will think her next single is one of her best, it doesn't mean that it's not going to be non-event for the majority of the people. It has been said many times that the general public does not want to see someone being eternally popular and a 56 year old woman is not getting a miraculous resurgence just because she is working with Avicii and Diplo. I did not say that at all…. I said MAYBE they will not be able to resist. I understand that she could put out great material and radio may still not jump on it. Im accurate in saying that an older icon can have a out of nowhere comeback on radio. It has happen, believe me Cher was more of a long shot when she has success in her 50s with believe than Madonna would be to be quite honest. There have been others as well. I do not think anyone here is under the delusion that it would be very difficult for Madonna to have a radio hit at her age, but I do not think it is impossible or we should somehow not be able to speculate. The public does like a comeback! Also I would like to point to Hung Up… it was without a doubt a hit as it reached number #7 on the Hot 100. This was in the early stages of the digital single getting big and no streaming factoring. Madonna put out a great anthem and radio while it was not huge did push it to a top 17 peak and the public obviously embraced it because it sold quite well and went to #1 on the digital chart and was a consistent seller.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 23, 2014 15:10:38 GMT -5
"Believe" often comes up in these discussions, but that was a fluke- a one-off that really shouldn't be held up as an example. It was the biggest single of her career ona worldwide scale- that's not likely top happen to Madonna, as she's had a lot more success in music than Cher. Not saying that Madonna couldn't experience a hit single, but it's tougher now for older acts than it was before.
"Hung Up" was a top 20 hit at top 40 radio, but on Hot 100 Airplay, the peak was No. 42.
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Post by seaguy27 on Aug 23, 2014 18:08:18 GMT -5
"Believe" often comes up in these discussions, but that was a fluke- a one-off that really shouldn't be held up as an example. It was the biggest single of her career ona worldwide scale- that's not likely top happen to Madonna, as she's had a lot more success in music than Cher. Not saying that Madonna couldn't experience a hit single, but it's tougher now for older acts than it was before. "Hung Up" was a top 20 hit at top 40 radio, but on Hot 100 Airplay, the peak was No. 42. Right, but that was at a horrible time to put out a disco song for one….also the public also embraced it anyway and did make it a hit. Cher I used as an example, however their have been many a veteran act throughout pop music to have a late in career revival. Tina Turner practically had a second career after 42yo age and was much older than what most pop radio was playing at the time. What I care really about is a great album,, However Madonna does have the ability to stir up more interest than your usual veteran act and I do believe she can have a solid selling album and a song of some notoriety if it were to get critical buzz.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Aug 23, 2014 20:49:20 GMT -5
seaguy27, I love and admire your positive enthusiasm. :) Realistic or wishful dreaming, there is always hope and nothing is impossible.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 24, 2014 7:07:22 GMT -5
"Believe" isn't "disco," though- "Strong Enough" was moreso, and we see what happened with that one. (which I like more than "Believe," actually). "Believe" was a global smash, and the USA was the last market to conquer. I just want a lead song I will LOVE, which did not happen with the last coupe of album's lead singles.
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 24, 2014 11:31:42 GMT -5
Yes, by and large, Madonna looks to be a very strong ingredient in the process of how her songs end up. The Queen. Yes. I think it was Martin Sloveig that said she is very generous with songwriting and producing credits. Everyone who works with her gets the knowledge and makes good money.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 15:54:13 GMT -5
will M answer the ALS ice bucket challenge?
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Post by seaguy27 on Aug 24, 2014 18:30:51 GMT -5
"Believe" isn't "disco," though- "Strong Enough" was moreso, and we see what happened with that one. (which I like more than "Believe," actually). "Believe" was a global smash, and the USA was the last market to conquer. I just want a lead song I will LOVE, which did not happen with the last coupe of album's lead singles. Holidayguy- I was speaking of Hung Up not Believe when I said disco….and even if some do not think that Hung Up was disco it was still very much under the umbrella of throwback dance music which was not being played at radio at all in 2005.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 24, 2014 18:46:59 GMT -5
Ah, OK. :) Even though I'm probably one of those who wouldn't classify HU as disco, the ABBA sample did make it a "throwback" track.
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MTV VMAs 2014: From Michael Jackson to Beyonce, the Top 10 music videos of all timeWith the MTV Video Music Awards airing on Sunday, Jim Farber provides you with the only 'best of' list you will ever need. NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Saturday, August 23, 2014, 6:00 AMMTV created the VMAs to celebrate the top creations from the world of music video. Today, videos are seen by more people than ever - albiet on places like YouTube and fan web sites, not MTV. So, for the latest VMAs, airing Sunday, we decided to toast the 10 Best Music Clips of all time: 10) RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS, "GIVE IT AWAY" (1991)More homoerotic than a Calvin Klein ad, the "Give It Away" video features the well-muscled funk-rockers, stroking themselves, implicitly pawing each other (through the wonders of editing), and shimmering in silver. It’s visually rhythmic, architecturally impressive and hot. What's not to like? 9) JOHNNY CASH, "HURT" (2002)Mark Romenek's moving, and pained, piece for a then 70-year-old Johnny Cash — shot the year before he died — showed him surrounded by memories of his distant past. For maximum poignancy, the antique images are strewn around as rotting totems, decaying in the harsh light of the present. 8) WHITE STRIPES, "FELL IN LOVE WITH A GIRL" (2002)Fell in love with a girl video music the white stripes from sebastien fau on Vimeo. Michele Gondry went loco with Legos for this hilarious, adorable, and oddly subversive clip. The director created an entire story line out of the little plastic toy blocks, animated to intensify the song's depiction of a jittery, witty, and deeply quirky kind of love. 7) BEYONCE, "SINGLE LADIES" (2008)A Minimalist masterpiece, Jake Nava's clip keeps the camera on the money: It focuses entirely on Beyonce in a body suit and high-heels (backed by two mirror-image dancers). The way Queen Bey gyrates here transcends her role as sex symbol to represent female power at its most triumphant. 6) PETER GABRIEL, "SLEDGEHAMMER" (1986)The winner of more MTV Moon Men — 10 — than any clip in history, Stephen R. Johnson's vision presents the song as a stop-action animation fantasia. It bursts with enough visual puns and animated absurdities to delight and surprise, even after scores of views. 5) NIRVANA, "SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT" (1991)Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit from ARTMIX Photography on Vimeo. Samuel Bayer nailed the dank, angry vision of grunge-revolutionary Kurt Cobain in the band's breakthrough short. Set in a high school gym, the video turns the idea of jock conformity inside out. Here, the cheerleaders boost the cause of insurrection, while the band brings its cultural revolt to a head. 4) DON HENLEY, "BOYS OF SUMMER" (1984)Don Henley - The Boys Of Summer from Krystian Feledyn on Vimeo. Star movie director David Fincher showed his early talent in this stunning black and white short for the wan Henley hit. Fincher created an ideal depiction of nostalgia gone morose. The clip looks every bit as sad and beautiful as the song sounds. 3) TALKING HEADS, "ROAD TO NOWHERE" (1985)Under the co-direction of Stephen R. Johnson and top Head David Byrne, "Road To Nowhere" offered a wry twist on existential dread. Here, we see the band age, and the life cycle spiral, in a smartly observed, amusingly detailed, dance of futility. 2) MADONNA, "LIKE A PRAYER" (1989)This may be the most insane video ever made (a compliment), True to her character, Madonna aimed to offend everyone she possibly could with this fast-moving clip. Directed by Mary Lambert, the short includes a scene of the star having sex with a saint in a church (bonus: he's black). But the killer scene finds Madonna writhing around erotically in a field of KKK-style burning crosses. Who but Madge would think to use one of the most potent symbols of evil in American history as ideal back-lighting?1) MICHAEL JACKSON, "BEAT IT" (1983)Sorry, but "Thriller" isn't the King of Pop’s greatest clip. It's just his longest. "Beat It," directed by Bob Giraldi, broke real ground when it appeared in Jackson's big year, 1983. It did so through its fully fleshed-out plot (a “West Side Story” scenario, involving some real life gang members) as well as for the then-unheard of use synched sound. (Remember that clacky opening garage door towards the clip's start?). But it's the final, swaying choreography that makes the clip endure. It gave Jackson and his dancers a magical sense of movement. jfarber@nydailynews.com www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/best-music-videos-article-1.1912219
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 25, 2014 6:26:22 GMT -5
The 5 Most Expensive Music Videos Of All TimeMEDIA & ENTERTAINMENT 8/24/2014 @ 10:15AM Of all the expensive music videos made over time (and there are quite a few) the top five are created by only two artists: Michael Jackson and Madonna. This shouldn’t come as much of a surprise, as those two legends are some of the only ones who would have enough clout to rustle up millions for a four-minute movie. While other artists typically use music videos as a way of selling more copies of a certain song or album, these two turned the music video into an art form, attempting to top themselves with each new project. While the details and stories surrounding these videos and songs could go on for pages, here’s a quick look at the top five most expensive music videos (adjusted for inflation to 2013 dollars) and what made them so unique, so special, and so costly. 5. Michael Jackson — “Black or White,” $6.9 million (originally $4 million)The lead single from Jackson’s Dangerous needed a video that would be many things all at once—fun, meaningful, and above all else, memorable. The final product of course ended up as all of these and more, becoming a fan favorite and controversy at the same time. The 11-minute adventure premiered at the same time on all music channels (MTV , BET, and VH1), as well as on FOX in 27 countries, with an estimated 500 million people watching. 4. Madonna — “Bedtime Story,” $7.7 million (originally $5 million)“Bedtime Story” is the first of three Madonna music videos on this list, though the single it was made to promote is not one of the singer’s greatest successes. Directed by Mark Romanek, who would also direct the music video that ends up surpassing “Bedtime” as the single most expensive of all time. Not one to miss a publicity opportunity, Madonna premiered the video at movie theatres in New York City, Chicago, and Santa Monica. These days, it is housed permanently in a collection at the Museum of Modern Art in New York. 3. Madonna — “Die Another Day,” $7.9 million (originally $6.1 million)While the song received mixed reviews from critics, Madonna’s Bond song went on to be the best-selling dance song of 2002 and 2003, and its video was nominated for a Grammy. The James Bond-inspired video has the legendary pop star fighting herself, which was a mixture of green screens and intricate and expensive special effects. A few years ago, Billboard ranked the song the #6 song from the Bond franchise. 2. Madonna — “Express Yourself,” $9.4 million (originally $5 million)Madonna’s “Express Yourself” video cost $5 million to make back in 1989, making it the most expensive video ever made at the time. The clip, which was inspired by 1927 German science fiction film Metropolis was directed by David Fincher, who would go on to be nominated for Academy Awards for also directing both The Curious Case of Benjamin Button and The Social Network. The video sees the singer dressing in a masculine fashion, yet being as sexual as ever. 1. Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson — “Scream,” $10.7 million (originally $7 million)The video for “Scream,” the first single off Michael’s HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I album is really one for the books, and one of the few videos that everybody remembers seeing for the first time. Taking place on an elaborately-built spaceship set, the mostly black and white treatment shows Michael and Janet having fun, while simultaneously being angry about how the media had been portraying them lately. The video got its big debut on ABC’s “Primetime Live,” as Jackson was being interviewed with new bride Lisa Marie Presley. An estimated 64 million people watched, and later that year it would go on to win a Grammy for Best Short Form Music Video. www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2014/08/24/the-top-5-most-expensive-music-videos-of-all-time/
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Post by grandelf on Aug 25, 2014 7:42:07 GMT -5
That list is weird, Express Yourself was never reported to be as expensive as the Mark Romanek videos, it was always around 1-2 million now it's suddenly more expensive than Bedtime Story? And after 1995 these high-budget videos stopped until coincindentally Madonna herself in 2002?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 25, 2014 9:22:55 GMT -5
I forgot that the BS video was in the Museum of Modern Art- appropriate.
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 25, 2014 18:35:12 GMT -5
I love Bedtime Story. One of my ultimate favorites of hers. It looks like it cost a lot. This, too.
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 26, 2014 7:27:25 GMT -5
It's been quiet on The Queen's home front. Hope that means we hear some good news soon.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 26, 2014 8:07:36 GMT -5
i'd imagine if Youtube and streaming were around during her heyday, Bedtime Story and Human Nature would've been much bigger hits.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 26, 2014 8:18:47 GMT -5
The DAD video did not cost $6.1 million.
On what?
It's all in the editing for DAD.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 26, 2014 8:35:40 GMT -5
The DAD video did not cost $6.1 million. On what? It's all in the editing for DAD. they had to clone Madonna. That ain't cheap. ;)
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