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Post by Ling-Ling on Dec 22, 2014 15:04:08 GMT -5
Yeah, her vocals are the weak link for me as well. She sounds so flat and nasally on some of these tracks. She is definitely capable of more and I agree, her producers need to push her harder.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Dec 22, 2014 15:07:51 GMT -5
Others don't seem to agree, but I can't get enough of Unapologetic Bit*h! Love it...I can so relate to the lyrics after breaking up with bf of 5 years after finding out he was lying for years about stuff. The instrumental on this one alone. It's one of my favs.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 22, 2014 15:08:16 GMT -5
I think she sounds amazing on these tracks.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 22, 2014 15:12:02 GMT -5
Anyone who records and sings on their record is a "vocalist." I know there are some who are very into big vocals/voices, but, for me, the voice isn't the biggest favor for my enjoying an act (and that includes the acts with big voices that I enjoy). First and foremost, it's the song itself, and also the conviction/emotion in the act's delivery/vocals (not how technically great or big the vocals are). I get what some are saying about the vocals in the LFL verses, but she "pushes" on the chorus- and she sings it with conviction. And I love how she sounds on "Ghosttown."
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Post by Ling-Ling on Dec 22, 2014 15:18:06 GMT -5
Anyone who records and sings on their record is a "vocalist." I know there are some who are very into big vocals/voices, but, for me, the voice isn't the biggest favor for my enjoying an act (and that includes the acts with big voices that I enjoy). First and foremost, it's the song itself, and also the conviction/emotion in the act's delivery/vocals (not how technically great or big the vocals are). I get what some are saying about the vocals in the LFL verses, but she "pushes" on the chorus- and she sings it with conviction. And I love how she sounds on "Ghosttown." Oh, I agree with all of that. I'm not looking to Madonna for some big diva house vocals. I'm looking for conviction and investment. Which is what I'm not getting on some of these tracks. She sounds sorta flat and lifeless. Something that marred both MDNA and Hard Candy in places. I understand her tone and such has changed as she's gotten older, but she's worked around it before. I just wish these had more punch.
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Post by xxzion72xx on Dec 22, 2014 15:18:37 GMT -5
Yes we all know back in 1983 when they called her miny mouse on helium, it just really destroyed and derailed her Career... Lol.
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 22, 2014 15:32:57 GMT -5
I'm loving the new material but I agree that she's definitely a better vocalist than some of these vocals are indicating.
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Post by tommymonster44 on Dec 22, 2014 15:52:49 GMT -5
Anyone who records and sings on their record is a "vocalist." I know there are some who are very into big vocals/voices, but, for me, the voice isn't the biggest favor for my enjoying an act (and that includes the acts with big voices that I enjoy). First and foremost, it's the song itself, and also the conviction/emotion in the act's delivery/vocals (not how technically great or big the vocals are). I get what some are saying about the vocals in the LFL verses, but she "pushes" on the chorus- and she sings it with conviction. And I love how she sounds on "Ghosttown." Oh, I agree with all of that. I'm not looking to Madonna for some big diva house vocals. I'm looking for conviction and investment. Which is what I'm not getting on some of these tracks. She sounds sorta flat and lifeless. Something that marred both MDNA and Hard Candy in places. I understand her tone and such has changed as she's gotten older, but she's worked around it before. I just wish these had more punch. See that is what I'm saying. Madonna has never been a technical singer, and having a Mariah Carey voice isn't something I value in her songs. In the past, however, her vocals have usually sounded amazing even if they weren't technical. But lately she has just sounded completely lifeless, and just a drone of misused auto tune. I think her strongest vocals on her new material is Ghosttown, where I think that she actually sounds amazing. If she had sang like that on Living For Love, the song would have blown me out of the water. As it stands, the song is what I would imagine Kieza's music to sound like if she didn't have the huge voice that she does.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Dec 22, 2014 16:11:24 GMT -5
Which is what I'm not getting on some of these tracks. She sounds sorta flat and lifeless. Something that marred both MDNA and Hard Candy in places. I understand her tone and such has changed as she's gotten older, but she's worked around it before. I just wish these had more punch. On a few of the ballads and midtempos that have surfaced so far in finished form, she does sound better, but I do agree with comments on most of the other ones. Perhaps it has something to do with the conditions under which they were recorded and subsequently processed. She almost had Ray Of Light era vocals on "Falling Free" on the last album, same with "Masterpiece".
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Dec 22, 2014 16:44:08 GMT -5
I think she sounds amazing on these tracks. madonna has that unique vocal talent especially in her ballads to melt the heart and soul. She's not a belter or the greatest singer but she puts so much personnel emotion into her vocals. Her vocals especially in her ballads like Ghosttown takes me to a place of peace and smooth easy relatable music.
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Post by superbu on Dec 22, 2014 17:02:10 GMT -5
I agree with the comments on the "Living for Love" vocals. Her voice sounds strained on the chorus. Not in the best voice on that song.
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Post by xxzion72xx on Dec 22, 2014 17:05:09 GMT -5
But even i will admit i will always cherish her voice from 1983-1998....Something change after those years...she became very limited and careful with the voice, Open Your Heart , Rescue Me, Keep it Together, Angel, Gambler, Deeper and Deeper, i miss those days bad.....it seems after that she hit a point were she wasn't going push her vocal boundaries,,, i mean..if any one has the Oscar performance of Sooner or Later in 1991...i think her best vocal performance live, ever...you can tell she wasn't afraid to push the limits...and it sounded great.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 22, 2014 17:41:06 GMT -5
time.com/3643968/madonna-rebel-heart-new-music/#3643968/madonna-rebel-heart-new-music/Madonna’s Next Album Is Shaping Up to Be Her Best in a Decadeby Jamieson Cox @jamiesoncox The singer's surprise release of several new songs reveals that the Queen of Pop hasn't lost her edge When a handful of Madonna demos leaked last week — an event she called “artistic rape” and a “form of terrorism” — she decided to fight fire with fire by releasing the official versions of six songs cut from her upcoming thirteenth studio album, Rebel Heart. The bundle of new tracks represent her first collection of new material since 2012’s MDNA, a lukewarm flirtation with contemporary club music. Thing is, though, there’s a joy to every new Madonna release that’s just separated from determining the quality of the actual music: at this point in her career she’s pop’s cockroach, resilient and hardy and shockingly adaptable. With each new record, there are lessons about the genre’s present and near future in the specific sounds and figures she chooses to help realize her vision. Based on this first batch of Rebel Heart material, Madonna is looking to strike a balance. First, there’s are the figures at the centre of EDM and synth-pop, her chosen modes of operation — meaning writers and producers like Diplo, Avicii, and Savan Kotecha. Then, she ropes in artists working at the vanguard across a variety of genres, from superstars like Kanye West to relative nobodies like producers Ariel Rechtshaid and Sophie. This is a savvy move — what a surprise, a smart play from one of the canniest pop stars to ever roam an arena — because it allows her to play to the masses while still pushing boundaries. The songs that lead off this first Rebel Heart blast, lead single “Living for Love” and “Devil Pray,” could fit in neatly on the radio beside this year’s British house-pop crossovers and Avicii’s own “Hey Brother.” The ones that close it, namely the abrasive half-rapped Kanye collaboration “Illuminati” and caffeine-drunk trap anthem/Nicki Minaj feature “Bitch I’m Madonna,” hew closer to the spirit of PC Music’s obscure SoundCloud accounts and the sharp edges of Yeezus. And because Madonna exists in rarefied air, the kind reserved for luminaries like herself and Prince and very few others, each of her new releases is less of an independent statement than a response to everything she’s done before, another chapter tacked onto an epic novel with no definite end. The tones, themes, and imagery that make up her musical toolbox — the frank sensuality, the various methods of intoxication, the lapsed Catholicism, the uncompromising confidence — are gospel at this point, and they elevate some of the more forgettable Rebel Heart material to a base level of pleasure. It’s fun to hear Madonna deliver a line like, “It might sound like I’m an unapologetic bitch / but sometimes you know I gotta call I like it is” (and try on 2 Chainz’ flow, just for kicks) because she has three’ decades worth of unapologetic bitchiness in her back pocket. It’s an easy score, sure, but it’s effective. And if the complete version of Rebel Heart, due March 10th via Interscope, can deliver a few more of those easy scores alongside a bit more adventurous songwriting, the album could be Madonna’s finest in almost a decade.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 22, 2014 17:48:58 GMT -5
The batch of tunes, on the whole, are a good indicator that this album may be a fine addition to the classic Madonna catalog.
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Post by seaguy27 on Dec 22, 2014 18:25:47 GMT -5
I think she is delivering the kind of material that gives her commercial success beyond the usual hardcore fans…it could give her the right buzz to overcome the usual things that challenge a veteran artist.
Hopefully she can get good critical reaction which could lead to some good album sales regardless of top 40 radio which is geared toward younger acts.
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Post by cause_for_celebration on Dec 22, 2014 18:29:31 GMT -5
I'll be happy if the album goes Gold lol
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 22, 2014 18:40:00 GMT -5
^I'm sure there will be a album redemption along with a concert ticket.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 22, 2014 18:41:03 GMT -5
I'll be happy if the album goes Gold lol With critical acclaim, 3 months of preorders, and 3 batches of iTunes exposure, and good word of mouth (which is already happening), it might even debut gold. I think she had a great shot at debuting with 1M WW.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Dec 22, 2014 18:42:33 GMT -5
forget about living for love, this is still my favorite song on the album
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Post by seaguy27 on Dec 22, 2014 18:47:43 GMT -5
I'll be happy if the album goes Gold lol Well, I guess considering only 3-5 albums this year sold 1 million that is not bad either….I will just say that I believe this will out perform her last 2 releases and have more longevity.
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Post by cause_for_celebration on Dec 22, 2014 18:49:59 GMT -5
I'll be happy if the album goes Gold lol Well, I guess considering only 3-5 albums this year sold 1 million that is not bad either….I will just say that I believe this will out perform her last 2 releases and have more longevity. That would be very nice! How much did her last 2 sell?
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Post by seaguy27 on Dec 22, 2014 19:05:11 GMT -5
MDNA was around 540k or so and I think Hard Candy was in the 700k range.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 22, 2014 19:23:23 GMT -5
It's funny how these six songs (barring BIM) have made me completely forget about Katy Perry. And all Xmas music.
If the melodies continue, this may end up being my favorite album of hers ever. I'm so slayed.
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Post by Janhova's Witness on Dec 22, 2014 21:18:54 GMT -5
at this point in her career she’s pop’s cockroach Bye
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Post by floridagrl on Dec 22, 2014 21:49:13 GMT -5
The reviews for this album or the six songs so far are so positive, I am loving this era. Cheers Madge, you did alright. :) P.S the haters gonna hate:) Let 'em. This is going to be an epic era!!!
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Post by floridagrl on Dec 22, 2014 21:50:50 GMT -5
Others don't seem to agree, but I can't get enough of Unapologetic Bit*h! Love it...I can so relate to the lyrics after breaking up with bf of 5 years after finding out he was lying for years about stuff. So sorry for you, chartfreak. Your heart must be hurting. :(
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 22, 2014 21:57:23 GMT -5
Let's assume there will be a reggae section of her tour. What songs should she do?
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Post by floridagrl on Dec 22, 2014 22:01:41 GMT -5
Global iTunes Artist Ranking | Last update: 2014-12-22 20:05:11 : #1 madonna Worldwide iTunes Album Chart 2014/12/22: No. 1 #RebelHeart (2 days) WW iTunes Song Chart 2014/12/22 #2 #BitchImMadonna #3 #DevilPray #4 #Ghosttown #5 #LivingForLove #8 #Unapologeticbitch #9 #Illuminati
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Post by xxzion72xx on Dec 22, 2014 22:16:07 GMT -5
Florida .. if there's anyway you would be able to post madonnas last picture on her Instagram... I have a gut feeling she's doing the video, I can't see there being any other way why she would be dressed up like....it would only make sense that her team is in high gear.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 22, 2014 22:16:42 GMT -5
Two years ago, Hard Candy was at 744,000.
If they do a bundling with the new album, they should have a separate option of purchasing the album (not just taking action to redeem a copy). With MDNA, having the ticket buyer take action to redeem a copy was fine- as the CD price was lumped with the ticket price- but it also led to a larger-than-usual second-week decline.
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